From lawyer@attorneyross.com Fri Apr 1 00:14:59 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri Apr 1 00:15:20 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk In-Reply-To: <20050331193942.C8CF9395A@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <424C9283.4393.FF7B00@localhost> On 31 Mar 2005 at 14:39, Bob Nelson wrote: > Mark Jurkowitz talks about Air America on its first birthday. But > while he quotes one source as saying it's a "smashing success", check > out the ratings. (WXKS didn't even show up in the latest book.) But WKOX does. I wonder how many people said they were listening to WXKS when they were listening to WKOX. I think the legal ID has WKOX first because 1200 comes before 1430. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Fri Apr 1 00:14:59 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri Apr 1 00:15:21 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk In-Reply-To: <001801c53631$cb864940$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <424C9283.3405.FF7B50@localhost> On 31 Mar 2005 at 15:39, Dan Strassberg wrote: > Anyhow, CCU, which owns and leases out many billboards, in addition to > owning quite a few stations, including WKOXKS, that carry "progressive > talk," has been very reluctant to promote its progressive talkers. I've seen quite a few taxicab signs promoting the Al Franken Show in Boston in the past few weeks. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Fri Apr 1 00:15:00 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri Apr 1 00:15:24 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20050331212150.027e4d50@gwind.pair.com> References: <001801c53631$cb864940$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <424C9284.13842.FF7B9C@localhost> On 31 Mar 2005 at 21:43, Scott Fybush wrote: > But that said, the only motivation of any sort that drives Clear > Channel Radio is ratings and profit. They're not out to fail just to > prove a political point. That is at once a major strength and a major weakness of capitalism. Lenin is supposed to have said, "The capitalists will compete with each other to sell us the rope with which we will hang them." -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Fri Apr 1 03:04:25 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Apr 1 03:04:49 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk Message-ID: <20050401080425.2063539BA@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>I've seen quite a few taxicab signs promoting the Al Franken Show in Boston in the past few weeks I saw one such cab in Coolidge Corner awhile back. Keep in mind that Clear Channel controls some billboards and taxi-top advertising, so they're promoting their own product there (which was pointed out to me by both Eli and a Free Republic member) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From rjoc@webtv.net Fri Apr 1 07:44:54 2005 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Fri Apr 1 07:45:02 2005 Subject: The "Bay" is now "Frank" Message-ID: <20050401124454.28BE8D6FC@smtpout-3204.bay.webtv.net> With absolutely no warning,no stunting, and no pomotional hype, the "Music of Your Life" on WBYA 105.5 Islesboro came to a halt yesterday. As of last evening "The Bay" became "The MidCoast's new #1 for Classic Hits 105.5 Frank-FM" That makes at least 3 "Classic Hits" for the Penobscot Bay/Bangor/Mount Desert Island region: "The Peak" WKSS 102.5 Camden; Frank 105.5, and "I-95"WWMJ 95.7 which shifted from oldies to Classic Hits in January. As for standards, the only station locally left for the format is WDEA-1370 with ABC's Timeless Classics satellite feed. Just heard them give their new website: www.1055frank.com They are now IDi'ng as WBYA Islesboro Rockland Belfast. I guess it's "Hello Frank, Good Bye Frank Sinatra... Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine From revdoug1@verizon.net Fri Apr 1 10:54:00 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Fri Apr 1 10:50:58 2005 Subject: The "Bay" is now "Frank" References: <20050401124454.28BE8D6FC@smtpout-3204.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <045001c536d3$05e88110$6501a8c0@pastor2> Interesting. I wonder how many broadcasting management people there are out there who recognize that the U.S. has an aging demographic. There are more and more "seniors" out there who, it would seem, are being ignored --- the Sinatra listeners. A lot of them are retiring to Hancock County (and are wealthy. Advertisers, take note). How many "Classic Hits" stations does the Down East area need, anyway? All of this goes to buttress a long-held contention of mine: there are too damn many radio stations. Anyone want to take on my argument? Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod O'Connor" To: Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 7:44 AM Subject: The "Bay" is now "Frank" > With absolutely no warning,no stunting, and no pomotional hype, the "Music of Your Life" on WBYA 105.5 Islesboro came to a halt yesterday. > > As of last evening "The Bay" became > "The MidCoast's new #1 for Classic Hits 105.5 Frank-FM" > > That makes at least 3 "Classic Hits" for the Penobscot Bay/Bangor/Mount Desert Island region: "The Peak" WKSS 102.5 Camden; Frank 105.5, and "I-95"WWMJ 95.7 which shifted from oldies to Classic Hits in January. > > As for standards, the only station locally > left for the format is WDEA-1370 with ABC's Timeless Classics satellite feed. > > Just heard them give their new website: www.1055frank.com They are now IDi'ng > as WBYA Islesboro Rockland Belfast. > > I guess it's "Hello Frank, Good Bye Frank Sinatra... > > > Rod O'Connor > Southwest Harbor, Maine > > > > From pete@partnercomm.com Fri Apr 1 11:17:49 2005 From: pete@partnercomm.com (Peter Murray) Date: Fri Apr 1 11:18:22 2005 Subject: The "Bay" is now "Frank" In-Reply-To: <045001c536d3$05e88110$6501a8c0@pastor2> References: <20050401124454.28BE8D6FC@smtpout-3204.bay.webtv.net> <045001c536d3$05e88110$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <424D742D.8010105@partnercomm.com> Doug Drown wrote: >Interesting. I wonder how many broadcasting management people there are out >there who recognize that the U.S. has an aging demographic. There are more >and more "seniors" out there who, it would seem, are being ignored --- the >Sinatra listeners. A lot of them are retiring to Hancock County (and are >wealthy. Advertisers, take note). How many "Classic Hits" stations does >the Down East area need, anyway? > >All of this goes to buttress a long-held contention of mine: there are too >damn many radio stations. Anyone want to take on my argument? > >Doug > > I would agree (as several others here will as well) that the older populations are not given the same attention as are those under 55. That would fly in the face of your next argument, however - if there were fewer stations, those remaining would go where they perceive the money to be - the younger demographics. Fewer stations would have even less chance of surviving as long as the current terrestrial broadcasters will, because fewer stations = less choice for the listeners (in any given market), which then leads to the adoption of alternatives that fill that void. Too many classic hits stations? Probably. The market will shake that out (as it has all the other 'too many on the bandwagon' situations, whether Dutch tulips, Fiber optic cabling or Jammin' Oldies)... Of course, if you're making the technical argument that there are too many radio stations... then you're probably right, and wrong at the same time. Much depends on to which part of the RF spectrum you refer - if AM, then yes. If FM, then perhaps no, as the third-adjacent rules have been proven to be too strict. In theory, we could have 25% more FM stations on the dial today! :) -Peter Peter Murray (N3IXY) Vienna, VA From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Apr 1 11:33:49 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri Apr 1 11:34:54 2005 Subject: The "Bay" is now "Frank" In-Reply-To: <424D742D.8010105@partnercomm.com> References: <045001c536d3$05e88110$6501a8c0@pastor2> <20050401124454.28BE8D6FC@smtpout-3204.bay.webtv.net> <045001c536d3$05e88110$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050401113047.02506e60@pop.registeredsite.com> Peter wrote--- >I would agree (as several others here will as well) that the older >populations are not given the same attention as are those under 55. The problem is that ad agency research shows the 55+ audience doesn't change products quickly nor try some of the brands that the agencies are pushing. The largest advertisers are those who often prefer what they believe is a more "flexible" demographic. SO, even if the older audience has money to spend, because they don't spend it on Bud Light or on the newest electronic gadgetry, there is no point in trying to reach them, say the agencies. It's a dumb argument, but it's still what drives many of the time buyers. From billo@shoreham.net Fri Apr 1 13:57:15 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill..) Date: Fri Apr 1 14:00:02 2005 Subject: Is He or Isn't He Message-ID: <424D998B.2020003@shoreham.net> CNN Radio flashed Pope's death at 1330 and then Rush went with it, too. Then, CNN retracted it, claiming his heart was still beating. Drudge got caught up in that, too. Bill O'Neill -- If at first you don't succeed then skydiving is not for you. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 4/1/2005 From billo@shoreham.net Fri Apr 1 14:00:35 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill.....) Date: Fri Apr 1 14:03:17 2005 Subject: Pope - Drudge Message-ID: <424D9A53.8070808@shoreham.net> Drudge just countered with: " Italian media gave contradictory reports about Pope John Paul's vital signs on Friday, first saying his heart and brain activity had stopped and then reporting this was not true... Developing..." Sky Italia has stayed with the Vatican's line. Bill O'Neill -- Peace -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 4/1/2005 From scott@fybush.com Fri Apr 1 14:07:20 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri Apr 1 14:07:21 2005 Subject: Is He or Isn't He In-Reply-To: <424D998B.2020003@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050401140554.029c31a0@gwind.pair.com> At 01:57 PM 4/1/2005 -0500, Bill O'Neill.. wrote: >CNN Radio flashed Pope's death at 1330 and then Rush went with it, too. >Then, CNN retracted it, claiming his heart was still beating. Drudge got >caught up in that, too. >Bill O'Neill I was flipping channels and had Fox News on around the same time. They were carrying a news conference from Rome, and over the Italian of the news conference was clearly heard a producer yelling "Pope is dead! Pope is dead! Get me a line to the newsroom." Then the backtracking began in earnest... s From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Apr 1 14:18:32 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri Apr 1 14:18:37 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk References: <20050331193942.C8CF9395A@mprdmxin.myway.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20050331212150.027e4d50@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <001101c536ef$9c6d0040$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Scott: I'm pretty sure that CCU also owns 910 KNEW, which, like 960 KQKE, is licensed to Oakland. KNEW is now running 20 kW-D/5 kW-N DA-2, whereas KQKE runs 5 kW DA-1. Both are good signals, and before 910's daytime upgrade, had very similar in coverage, although 910 was ND days when its D power was 5 kW. I would say that the daytime upgrade clearly made 910 the better of the two facilities, but nobody should have expected CCU to move the conservative talk from 910 to 960 so it could put progressive talk on 910. If I'm not mistaken, 910 picked up Savage when ABC's 560 KSFO dropped him. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fybush" To: "Dan Strassberg" ; Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:43 PM Subject: Re: Two views on Prog. Talk > In San Francisco, it's on 960, arguably the > best AM the company has in the market. From scott@fybush.com Fri Apr 1 14:25:40 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri Apr 1 14:25:34 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk In-Reply-To: <001101c536ef$9c6d0040$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <20050331193942.C8CF9395A@mprdmxin.myway.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20050331212150.027e4d50@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050401142344.02923a20@gwind.pair.com> At 02:18 PM 4/1/2005 -0500, Dan Strassberg wrote: >Scott: I'm pretty sure that CCU also owns 910 KNEW, which, like 960 KQKE, is >licensed to Oakland. KNEW is now running 20 kW-D/5 kW-N DA-2, whereas KQKE >runs 5 kW DA-1. Both are good signals, and before 910's daytime upgrade, had >very similar in coverage, although 910 was ND days when its D power was 5 >kW. I would say that the daytime upgrade clearly made 910 the better of the >two facilities, but nobody should have expected CCU to move the conservative >talk from 910 to 960 so it could put progressive talk on 910. If I'm not >mistaken, 910 picked up Savage when ABC's 560 KSFO dropped him. You're right - I was thinking about 910 on its old facilities, which were slightly less advantageous than 960, at least in the South Bay, because the transmitter site is considerably to the north. (960's at the Bay Bridge toll plaza, 910's up in the Emeryville area). With the power increase on 910, it's a somewhat better facility - and yes, there's no reason to have expected CCU to have made that swap. And yes, Savage is now on 910. (IIRC, ABC dropped him on KSFO after he left WABC for WOR in New York.) s From raccoonradio@myway.com Fri Apr 1 14:45:06 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Apr 1 14:45:25 2005 Subject: Is He or Isn't He Message-ID: <20050401194506.4EA6612D63@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>CNN Radio flashed Pope's death at 1330 and then Rush went with it, too. Then, CNN retracted it, claiming his heart was still beating. On Free Republic, a couple posts had said the Pope had died, based on a statement from Vatican Radio (probably reproduced from their website). But apparently the truth was "lost in translation"; the statement was actually pointing out which Cardinal would be announcing the Pope's passing, if and when it does happen. (There are online sites to translate from different languages, but they don't always do so smoothly.) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From hykker@grolen.com Fri Apr 1 18:48:15 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Apr 1 18:48:51 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk In-Reply-To: <001101c536ef$9c6d0040$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <20050331193942.C8CF9395A@mprdmxin.myway.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20050331212150.027e4d50@gwind.pair.com> <001101c536ef$9c6d0040$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050401184621.01c6bf48@pop3.grolen.com> Dan Strassberg wrote: >I would say that the daytime upgrade clearly made 910 the better of the >two facilities, but nobody should have expected CCU to move the conservative >talk from 910 to 960 so it could put progressive talk on 910. If I'm not >mistaken, 910 picked up Savage when ABC's 560 KSFO dropped him. Dunno about that. If ever there was a no-brainer market for liberal talk it would be San Francisco. From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Apr 1 19:23:29 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Fri Apr 1 19:23:36 2005 Subject: The "Bay" is now "Frank" References: <20050401124454.28BE8D6FC@smtpout-3204.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <001501c5371a$325b0370$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> They are using jocks from the Portland Frank to voicetrack the station. Isn't the Camden FM also classic rock? From scott@fybush.com Fri Apr 1 19:44:22 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri Apr 1 19:44:35 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050401184621.01c6bf48@pop3.grolen.com> References: <20050331193942.C8CF9395A@mprdmxin.myway.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20050331212150.027e4d50@gwind.pair.com> <001101c536ef$9c6d0040$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <6.0.3.0.0.20050401184621.01c6bf48@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20050401185928.04b83018@gwind.pair.com> At 06:48 PM 4/1/2005, SteveOrdinetz wrote: >Dan Strassberg wrote: > >>I would say that the daytime upgrade clearly made 910 the better of the >>two facilities, but nobody should have expected CCU to move the conservative >>talk from 910 to 960 so it could put progressive talk on 910. If I'm not >>mistaken, 910 picked up Savage when ABC's 560 KSFO dropped him. > > >Dunno about that. If ever there was a no-brainer market for liberal talk >it would be San Francisco. You'd think - and yet that market has actually been one of the brighter spots for some of the rightmost of the right-wing talkers. It's Savage's home base, and ABC has done very well there over the years with a talk lineup on KSFO 560 that's about as conservative as they come. (At the moment, that would be Rush, Dr. Laura, Hannity, Laura Ingraham and C-T-C AM, along with local hosts in AM and PM drive.) KSFO is where Savage started, and when CC got his show it was truly a no-brainer to take KNEW 910 (which had been the flagship of C-Net Radio - remember THAT?) and build a conservative talk format around him. At the moment, that includes a morning show simulcast with KSTE in Sacramento, Glenn Beck, Jeff Katz, Savage and O'Reilly. There'd be little reason to disrupt that building process by moving the whole thing to 960. As for liberal talk in San Francisco, it's less of a sure bet than it might seem. The far left already has Pacifica's KPFA, with more than five decades under its belt of superserving that piece of the audience. Then there's KGO, the 800-pound gorilla of Bay Area talk, which is one of the few talk stations in America that can truly claim to be a full-service outlet, with hosts who cover the political spectrum and who are open to a diversity of views. (That's where Gene Burns is now.) So a lot of the moderate-to-left listeners who might go to Air America in other markets already have a home on the dial at KGO. Then add to that the local talk programming at KQED, the NPR outlet that regularly racks up some of the best ratings of any public broadcaster in the country, and a huge number of listeners are already pretty well served there. s From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Apr 2 01:12:10 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Apr 2 01:12:32 2005 Subject: Ratings question Message-ID: <424DF16A.18758.9D9801@localhost> If the ratings services call a listener, and the listener, without identifying call letters, says, "I'm listening to Air America," what does the ratings service record? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Apr 2 01:12:10 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Apr 2 01:12:37 2005 Subject: The "Bay" is now "Frank" In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050401113047.02506e60@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <424D742D.8010105@partnercomm.com> Message-ID: <424DF16A.15002.9D985E@localhost> On 1 Apr 2005 at 11:33, Donna Halper wrote: > The problem is that ad agency research shows the 55+ audience doesn't > change products quickly nor try some of the brands that the agencies > are pushing. The largest advertisers are those who often prefer what > they believe is a more "flexible" demographic. SO, even if the older > audience has money to spend, because they don't spend it on Bud Light > or on the newest electronic gadgetry, there is no point in trying to > reach them, say the agencies. It's a dumb argument, but it's still > what drives many of the time buyers. Part of this is simply that people in ad agencies are mostly young. Few people seem to survive to middle age in advertising. But that means that ad agencies don't really know how to promote to middle-aged people. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Apr 2 01:12:09 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Apr 2 01:13:02 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk In-Reply-To: <20050401080425.2063539BA@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <424DF169.7683.9D96A2@localhost> On 1 Apr 2005 at 3:04, Bob Nelson wrote: > I saw one such cab in Coolidge Corner awhile back. Keep in mind that > Clear Channel controls some billboards and taxi-top advertising, so > they're promoting their own product there (which was pointed out to me > by both Eli and a Free Republic member) The point is that they ARE promoting it. They were accused of not doing so. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 01:36:03 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sat Apr 2 01:36:44 2005 Subject: Ratings question References: <424DF16A.18758.9D9801@localhost> Message-ID: <007f01c5374e$4e45c820$1404fea9@xyz> > If the ratings services call a listener, and the listener, without identifying call letters, says, > "I'm listening to Air America," what does the ratings service record? This may have chganged a bit recently, but for a long time this is the way it was. Arbitron keeps a "slogan file" on stations. Stations are allowed to list slogans that might be used as identifiers by listeners. For example, the slogans listed for station WXXX might include: "Soft Rock", "Johnny Jack in the Morning" & "Softy 101.1" So that if anyone writes in their ratings diary at work listening to "Soft Rock" at work between 9AM and 5PM", it would be attributed to WXXX. I'm guessing that WXKS/WKOX probably has listed "Air America" in their slogan file. No station can use the same slogan as an idenifier. Although, some stations can challenge the others use of a slogan. When WMJX signed on, WILD was using the slogan "Magic 10-9-0". WMJX challenged them, showing that they didn't consistantly use it every hour, and WILD lost the use of that slogan. So, to answer your question, an entry or response of "Air America" (without calls), would be attributed to WKOX/WXKS. Outside of the Boston Metro (5 counties), and a little further west, it would probably attributed to WMAS. JP From scott@fybush.com Sat Apr 2 02:16:20 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sat Apr 2 02:16:29 2005 Subject: Ratings question In-Reply-To: <424DF16A.18758.9D9801@localhost> References: <424DF16A.18758.9D9801@localhost> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20050402021310.04b925c0@gwind.pair.com> At 01:12 AM 4/2/2005, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >If the ratings services call a listener, and the listener, without >identifying call letters, says, >"I'm listening to Air America," what does the ratings service record? As long as WKOX/WXKS has registered "Air America" with Arbitron (and they have - the station name on file with Arbitron is "PROGRESSIVETALKAIRAMERICA" for WKOX and "AIRAMERICAPROGRESSIVETALK" for WXKS) and the diarykeeper is in the Boston market, the credit should go to WKOX or WXKS. I'm guessing that a diary that just reads "Air America" would be credited specifically to WXKS, since it appears first in that station's name, but that's purely a guess. s From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Apr 2 06:52:42 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat Apr 2 06:52:48 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk References: <424DF169.7683.9D96A2@localhost> Message-ID: <000601c5377a$80502140$19eefea9@dstrassberg> But if you saw it on a Taxi Top in Coolidge Corner, the cab was most likely a BROOKLINE cab, although it could have been a Boston cab. The likelihood of a cab from Medford, Malden or Everett, where WXKS is audible at night (albeit not so well in most of Medford) being seen in Coolidge Corner is quite small. As is the likelihood of a MetroWest cab or even a cab from Waltham, where WKOX is audible at night, being seen outside the commuities in which the cab is licensed to pick up fares. Thus, the Taxi Tops are advertising to people who can't hear the stations at the times they are most likely to be able to listen. What sense does THAT make? If CCU is going to use Taxi Tops to advertise progressive talk because they own the Taxi Tops, do it on Boston cabs that operate in downtown Boston and don't even mention the call letters--promote the Web site. Unfortunately, the Web site is something like www.bostonsprogressivetalk.com. In traffic, you get to look at a Taxi Top for maybe 10 seconds. Who is going to be able to memorize that l-o-o-o-n-n-g URL in 10 sec? The only reason I think I know it (and I could have it wrong) is that I've heard it on WKOX so many times. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: Cc: "boston Radio Interest" Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 1:12 AM Subject: Re: Two views on Prog. Talk > On 1 Apr 2005 at 3:04, Bob Nelson wrote: > > > I saw one such cab in Coolidge Corner awhile back. Keep in mind that > > Clear Channel controls some billboards and taxi-top advertising, so > > they're promoting their own product there (which was pointed out to me > > by both Eli and a Free Republic member) > > The point is that they ARE promoting it. They were accused of not doing so. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > From sid@wrko.com Sat Apr 2 07:36:36 2005 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sat Apr 2 07:37:10 2005 Subject: Ratings question Message-ID: >>If the ratings services call a listener, and the listener, without identifying call letters, says, "I'm listening to Air America," what does the ratings service record?<< Ratings services don't call, and haven't for over 30 years. Hooper, the last ratings service to use the "telephone-coincidental" technique, closed up shop decades ago. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From elipolo@earthlink.net Sat Apr 2 09:20:52 2005 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sat Apr 2 09:03:09 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk Message-ID: > From: "Dan Strassberg" > CC: "boston Radio Interest" > To: "A. Joseph Ross" , raccoonradio@myway.com > Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 06:52:42 -0500 > Subject: Re: Two views on Prog. Talk > > But if you saw it on a Taxi Top in Coolidge Corner, the cab was most > likely a BROOKLINE cab, although it could have been a Boston cab. The > likelihood of a cab from Medford, Malden or Everett, where WXKS is > audible at night (albeit not so well in most of Medford) being seen > in Coolidge Corner is quite small. > As is the likelihood of a MetroWest cab or even a cab from Waltham, > where WKOX is audible at night, being seen outside the commuities > in which the cab is licensed to pick up fares. Thus, the Taxi Tops > are advertising to people who can't hear the stations at the times > they are most likely to be able to listen. What sense does THAT make? That time factor is not necessarily true. The main purpose of any type of outdoor advertising for a radio station, whether it's a billboard, bus panel, or Taxi-Top, is to get the person who sees it while driving to switch their car (or truck, SUV, hummer, etc..) radio to the station right then at that moment, not necessarily later in the evening at home. This is probably more likely to happen during daylight hours because there are simply more people on the road (except for winter afternoon rush hours when it's already dark), and WXKS-AM's day signal covers the entire Boston and suburban metro within Route 128 quite well. Also, drivers may be more likely to want to check out a talk station while commuting in the daytime. At night, more people are driving for social or entertainment pursuits, and may be more likely to want to listen to music stations than political talk in the car at that time. It makes sense to me for them to advertise on Brookline cabs, and they do on many of them. It's a prime demo for them in the daytime where WXKS-AM comes in fine, and also WKOX-AM in the daytime hits the west side toward Chestnut Hill and Putterham Circle fairly well. As well, I'd think that many of the listeners in that area who discover them in the car in the daytime may seek out the web stream at home if they want to hear them after sundown and discover they can't (well) on the radio. > If CCU is going to use Taxi Tops to advertise progressive talk > because they own the Taxi Tops, do it on Boston cabs that operate in > downtown Boston and don't even mention the call letters--promote the > Web site. Not a good strategy. Sure, it would serve them well to have a short, easier to remember URL, but once again you're negating that WXKS-AM covers all of metro Boston quite well in the daytime. It wouldn't make sense for them to sacrifice advertising to the daytime radio audience simply because the signal doesn't cover some of the area at night. Boston cabs are frequently seen day and night in areas where WXKS-AM comes in both day and night. Boston cabs are all over the suburbs day and night, dropping passengers off because many people take cabs from the city home to the suburbs. Boston cabs are frequently dropping off in Somerville, Medford, Malden, Everett, etc.. all areas where WXKS-AM is generally listenable at night. Also, Boston, Brookline and Cambridge cabs leaving Logan Airport empty with Air America Taxi-Tops are constantly coming through prime WXKS-AM signal territory in Chelsea, Everett, Charlestown and Somerville to avoid paying the $4.50 commercial vehicle toll to use either airport tunnel outbound to Boston. I haven't seen any Air America Taxi-Tops on Waltham cabs or other cabs in the immediate western suburbs (west of Brookline). I don't know if the Framingham company uses them, but that would certainly make sense with WKOX right there. Eli Polonsky From hykker@grolen.com Sat Apr 2 09:04:04 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat Apr 2 09:04:07 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk In-Reply-To: <000601c5377a$80502140$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <424DF169.7683.9D96A2@localhost> <000601c5377a$80502140$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050402085852.01aef008@pop3.grolen.com> Dan Strassberg wrote: >Unfortunately, the Web site is >something like www.bostonsprogressivetalk.com. In traffic, you get to look >at a Taxi Top for maybe 10 seconds. Who is going to be able to memorize that >l-o-o-o-n-n-g URL in 10 sec? Which brings up an unrelated peeve of mine. Businesses, the spelling of their name is not always obvious giving a web address as part of a radio ad, but not giving any clue as to how it's spelled. One that immediately comes to mind is an auto dealership in Haverhill (I think). Phonetically it sounds like "Jeffarian", though I'm sure that spelling isn't even close. I wonder how many (few) hits their website gets from these radio ads? From radiotony@comcast.net Sat Apr 2 09:06:02 2005 From: radiotony@comcast.net (tony schinella) Date: Sat Apr 2 09:06:10 2005 Subject: Fair & Accurate Message-ID: <02a901c5378d$1aaaba40$6400a8c0@tony> It is clear that MSNBC is giving FoxNews a tweak for their 'The Pope is Dead ...' gaffe yesterday. Their new motto? We're Fair & Accurate Best, Tony Schinella radiotony@comcast.net WKXL 1450 Concord, NH News Director/A&E http://www.wkxl1450.com http://politizine.blogspot.com From hykker@grolen.com Sat Apr 2 09:08:58 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat Apr 2 09:09:02 2005 Subject: Ratings question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050402090441.01b04028@pop3.grolen.com> Sid Schweiger wrote: > >>If the ratings services call a listener, and the listener, without >identifying call letters, says, "I'm listening to Air America," what >does the ratings service record?<< > >Ratings services don't call, and haven't for over 30 years. Hooper, the >last ratings service to use the "telephone-coincidental" technique, >closed up shop decades ago. I know they're gone now too, but didn't Birch & Willhight use call-out for their ratings? Willhight was around thru at least the mid-90s. I had a call from a (no doubtedly short-lived) "alternative" rating service in the mid-late 90s asking for my radio listenership. Oddly, they never asked if I worked for a broadcast or media company (I did). Needless to say, I listened faithfully to my own airshift from start to finish. From billo@shoreham.net Sat Apr 2 09:28:34 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat Apr 2 09:31:26 2005 Subject: Fair & Accurate In-Reply-To: <02a901c5378d$1aaaba40$6400a8c0@tony> References: <02a901c5378d$1aaaba40$6400a8c0@tony> Message-ID: <424EAC12.9090704@shoreham.net> tony schinella wrote: > It is clear that MSNBC is giving FoxNews a tweak for their 'The Pope > is Dead ...' gaffe yesterday. Their new motto? We're Fair & Accurate > Interestingly, three reports about Shepard Smith's gaffe on Fox News, including CNN.com and no mention of the 1:30 p.m. CNN Radio special report that the Pope had died. Not until a feed later that quarter hour did the network retract. Why would that not have been included in the media report? Bill O'Neill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 4/1/2005 From radiotony@comcast.net Sat Apr 2 09:33:11 2005 From: radiotony@comcast.net (tony schinella) Date: Sat Apr 2 09:33:24 2005 Subject: Fair & Accurate References: <02a901c5378d$1aaaba40$6400a8c0@tony> <424EAC12.9090704@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <02bd01c53790$e5e3ff70$6400a8c0@tony> Was it on CNN TV or just radio? I know CBS radio didn't mention it during the day. Best, Tony Schinella radiotony@comcast.net WKXL 1450 Concord, NH News Director/A&E http://www.wkxl1450.com http://politizine.blogspot.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill O'Neill" To: "tony schinella" Cc: Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 9:28 AM Subject: Re: Fair & Accurate > tony schinella wrote: > >> It is clear that MSNBC is giving FoxNews a >> tweak for their 'The Pope is Dead ...' gaffe >> yesterday. Their new motto? We're Fair & >> Accurate >> > Interestingly, three reports about Shepard > Smith's gaffe on Fox News, including CNN.com and > no mention of the 1:30 p.m. CNN Radio special > report that the Pope had died. Not until a feed > later that quarter hour did the network retract. > Why would that not have been included in the > media report? > > Bill O'Neill > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - > Release Date: 4/1/2005 > From kc1ih@mac.com Sat Apr 2 11:16:49 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat Apr 2 11:16:59 2005 Subject: Ratings question In-Reply-To: <007f01c5374e$4e45c820$1404fea9@xyz> References: <424DF16A.18758.9D9801@localhost> <007f01c5374e$4e45c820$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: At 1:36 AM -0500 4/2/05, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > > If the ratings services call a listener, and the listener, without >identifying call letters, says, > > "I'm listening to Air America," what does the ratings service record? > >So, to answer your question, an entry or response of "Air America" (without >calls), would be attributed to WKOX/WXKS. How would they determine if the person is listening on satellite or online rather than OTA? -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From rogerkola@aol.com Sat Apr 2 11:56:52 2005 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Sat Apr 2 11:56:56 2005 Subject: Ratings question References: <6.0.3.0.0.20050402090441.01b04028@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <000a01c537a4$f9cc30c0$0200a8c0@teal> Quarterly, I get solicitations to purchase "telephone" based rating for the Boston Market from a company called Solutions Broadcast Media Group...I believe they are based in California. At one time I had a figure of the number of households they "sampled" in the market, but the number escapes me now..... Roger WESX 1230 > >Ratings services don't call, and haven't for over 30 years. Hooper, the > >last ratings service to use the "telephone-coincidental" technique, > >closed up shop decades ago. > > > I know they're gone now too, but didn't Birch & Willhight use call-out for > their ratings? Willhight was around thru at least the mid-90s. From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Apr 2 12:13:38 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat Apr 2 12:14:44 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk In-Reply-To: <000601c5377a$80502140$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <424DF169.7683.9D96A2@localhost> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050402121130.0258ccc0@pop.registeredsite.com> At 06:52 AM 4/2/2005 -0500, you wrote: >But if you saw it on a Taxi Top in Coolidge Corner, the cab was most likely >a BROOKLINE cab, although it could have been a Boston cab. The likelihood of >a cab from Medford, Malden or Everett, where WXKS is audible at night >(albeit not so well in most of Medford) being seen in Coolidge Corner is >quite small. As is the likelihood of a MetroWest cab or even a cab from >Waltham, where WKOX is audible at night, being seen outside the commuities >in which the cab is licensed to pick up fares. But I am still mystified by where WKOX's signal goes at night. I can't get it in Worcester, I can't get it in Westboro, and in fact, it isn't even clear in some parts of Framingham! And as we know, forget about the south shore. So, allegedly, where is its night pattern supposed to be heard? From DonKelley@aol.com Sat Apr 2 12:31:26 2005 From: DonKelley@aol.com (DonKelley@aol.com) Date: Sat Apr 2 12:31:45 2005 Subject: Ratings question Message-ID: It all depends on the entry. If a diarykeeper just writes Air America with no frequency, call letters, or indication of AM or FM it goes to ascription as I described earlier. If the diarykeeper has entered WKOX or WXKS or 1200 or 1430 elsewhere in the diary it would all go to that station. If they entered some combinatiopn of both it would go to ascription. If a diarykeeper writes Satellite Radio and nothing else the listening goes to no one. If they write something like "60's on 6" it goes to SAT-XM. If they write "Elvis Channel" it goes to SAT-SR. In fact, any XM or Sirius channel is listed as one radio station. Even if you write down 120 of them. There's no place in the diary to indicate internet listening. Say someone writes down "106.7 on my computer." Arbitron will look for other entries in that diary that indicate listening to the 106.7 in the Boston Metro. If there isn't, Arbitron has no way of knowing whether the diarykeeper was listening to 106.7 in New York, DC, or anywhere else. The listening then goes to "U" - uncredited listening. From lorraine6474@usadatanet.net Sat Apr 2 12:43:12 2005 From: lorraine6474@usadatanet.net (Lorraine Smith) Date: Sat Apr 2 12:42:23 2005 Subject: Ratings question References: <424DF16A.18758.9D9801@localhost><007f01c5374e$4e45c820$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <005601c537ab$729c2c20$cae54345@customer> My daughter & I recently completed the winter book. Yes after all these years, they asked for our opinions. The 4 choices for location of listening were; home, car, at work and other. It also went on with something like if you don't know the station, put dial location and name of show. There were a couple of stations (RI & NH) that I listened to in the car. I do not know their calls, so I put the dial location and city of origin. They also called me almost every day to remind us to keep filling out the diaries. Then a call at the end to remind us to send them in. Another perk was several crisp $1 bills. It actually was fun to track my listening habits. Although during that week we had a winter storm and some of my time spent listening was my police scanner and NOAA wx radio vs. actual radio. Lorraine From billo@shoreham.net Sat Apr 2 13:34:36 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat Apr 2 13:37:22 2005 Subject: Ratings question In-Reply-To: <005601c537ab$729c2c20$cae54345@customer> References: <424DF16A.18758.9D9801@localhost><007f01c5374e$4e45c820$1404fea9@xyz> <005601c537ab$729c2c20$cae54345@customer> Message-ID: <424EE5BC.6050008@shoreham.net> Lorraine Smith wrote: >My daughter & I recently completed the winter book. Yes >after all these years, they asked for our opinions. > > I got "the call" from Arbitron this past fall. I gave it a second and then the "ratings distortion is no joke" poster that used to hang in WCAP's master control flashed before my eyes, so I begged-off. Bill O'Neill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 4/1/2005 From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Apr 2 13:42:35 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Apr 2 13:42:53 2005 Subject: Fair & Accurate Message-ID: <20050402184235.4A3C5CA07A@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "tony schinella" >To: bri@bostonradio.org >Subject: Fair & Accurate >Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 09:06:02 -0500 > > It is clear that MSNBC is giving FoxNews a tweak for their 'The > Pope is Dead ...' gaffe yesterday. Their new motto? We're Fair & > Accurate > > Best, > Tony Schinella On last night's "Beat the Press" on WGBH-TV, this incident was discussed by Emily and the usual suspects. (It will be broadcast again Sunday morning at 8:00 eDst on WGBX-TV air channel 44, 16 on Comcast.) (In a related story, when he DOES pass on, Internet transaction site Paypal will observe a minute of downtime.) moment of silence -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From sid@wrko.com Sat Apr 2 13:48:16 2005 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sat Apr 2 13:48:37 2005 Subject: Ratings question Message-ID: >>I know they're gone now too, but didn't Birch & Willhight use call-out for their ratings? Willhight was around thru at least the mid-90s. I had a call from a (no doubtedly short-lived) "alternative" rating service in the mid-late 90s asking for my radio listenership. Oddly, they never asked if I worked for a broadcast or media company (I did). Needless to say, I listened faithfully to my own airshift from start to finish.<< IIRC, B&W used a combination of techniques to gather data, with phone calls being one of them. I'm surprised they lasted as long as they did, since Arbitron had knocked off virtually all meaningful competition by the 1980s. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Apr 2 13:49:47 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Apr 2 13:49:55 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk Message-ID: <20050402184947.9A752CA07A@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Donna Halper" >To: "Dan Strassberg" >Subject: Re: Two views on Prog. Talk >Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 12:13:38 -0500 > > But I am still mystified by where WKOX's signal goes at night. I > can't get it in Worcester, I can't get it in Westboro, and in fact, > it isn't even clear in some parts of Framingham! And as we know, > forget about the south shore. So, allegedly, where is its night > pattern supposed to be heard? In the space of a few days, I was in downtown Waltham, first to have food and drinks at the Watch City Restaurant on March 17th (Glavin is an Irish surname if you hadn't guessed), and to see a movie ("Downfall" about the last days of Hitler...VERY intense) at the Embassy Theater. I was able to get a very usable signal on WKOX that was pretty interference-free on 1200 itself, and only a little splatter from WPHT. I note that Howie Carr has mentioned Air America, mainly to criticize it, so I suspect it comes in well at his Wellesley domicile. -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From sid@wrko.com Sat Apr 2 13:53:57 2005 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sat Apr 2 13:54:20 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk Message-ID: >>But I am still mystified by where WKOX's signal goes at night. I can't get it in Worcester, I can't get it in Westboro, and in fact, it isn't even clear in some parts of Framingham! And as we know, forget about the south shore. So, allegedly, where is its night pattern supposed to be heard?<< >From the Mt. Wayte Avenue site, the 1-kW nighttime signal is aimed to the northeast, with one null toward WOAI/San Antonio and another at about 180 degrees. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Apr 2 14:03:52 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:04:00 2005 Subject: WLLH-AM's Lowell Transmitter Still Off-the-air Message-ID: <20050402190352.EBD35CA07A@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Even with gas at "2.08/gallon, I made a special trip to Lowell this morning to see if the WLLH-AM transmitter was still down; it is. (I was variously able to pick up the 1380s in Woonsocket, RI and Porstmouth, NH within sight of the WLLH tower. The Lawrence stick (usually 'stick' is used metaphorically, but in this case it's fairly accurate) still provided a pretty good signal along the swollen-but-not-over-its-banks Merrimack River in Lowell. (BTW, there are people in Methuen whose houses are within spitting distance of the river under normal conditions; now the water is lapping against their back door. How did the builders get permits in the first place?) So the question arises: has Mega figured that the overwhelming preponderance of their listeners are in Lawrence, so they might as well not waste electricity with the Lowell transmitter, since they're selling out anyway? Remember...WLLH/Lawrence is technically not the licensed operation, Lowell is! -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sat Apr 2 14:09:05 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:10:00 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk References: <424DF169.7683.9D96A2@localhost> <5.1.0.14.2.20050402121130.0258ccc0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <010801c537b7$8b36e2a0$1404fea9@xyz> From: "Donna Halper" > But I am still mystified by where WKOX's signal goes at night. I can't get > it in Worcester, I can't get it in Westboro, and in fact, it isn't even > clear in some parts of Framingham! And as we know, forget about the south > shore. So, allegedly, where is its night pattern supposed to be heard? Take a look at: http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WKOX&service=AM&status=L&hours=N From billo@shoreham.net Sat Apr 2 14:07:13 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:10:05 2005 Subject: [Fwd: Re: Fair & Accurate] Message-ID: <424EED61.9030604@shoreham.net> tony schinella wrote: > Was it on CNN TV or just radio? I know CBS radio didn't mention it > during the day. > I was listening to radio. Likely not on cable. WXZO (96.7 Plattsburgh) Bill O'Neill From hykker@grolen.com Sat Apr 2 14:21:54 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:21:58 2005 Subject: Ratings question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050402142040.01b3dec0@pop3.grolen.com> Sid Schweiger wrote: >IIRC, B&W used a combination of techniques to gather data, with phone >calls being one of them. I'm surprised they lasted as long as they did, >since Arbitron had knocked off virtually all meaningful competition by >the 1980s. Didn't Willhight mostly specialize in smaller markets that Arbitron didn't rate? From mlaurence@mindspring.com Sat Apr 2 14:30:08 2005 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Sat Apr 2 14:30:15 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk Message-ID: <26738655.1112470208405.JavaMail.root@wamui10.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Interesting...combine WKOX at night with WXKS-AM at night: http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WXKS&service=AM&status=L&hours=N ...and you've got fairly good coverage of the Boston area. On paper, anyway. It does explain why Donna can't hear either station on the South Shore, while I have much better luck with WKOX in Roslindale, even at night, and while driving on the Mass Pike or Route 9. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Pappalardo Sent: Apr 2, 2005 2:09 PM Take a look at: http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WKOX&service=AM&status=L&hours=N From scott@fybush.com Sat Apr 2 15:26:11 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sat Apr 2 15:26:17 2005 Subject: Ratings question In-Reply-To: <424EE5BC.6050008@shoreham.net> References: <424DF16A.18758.9D9801@localhost> <007f01c5374e$4e45c820$1404fea9@xyz> <005601c537ab$729c2c20$cae54345@customer> <424EE5BC.6050008@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20050402152413.04aeeec0@gwind.pair.com> At 01:34 PM 4/2/2005, Bill O'Neill wrote: >Lorraine Smith wrote: > >>My daughter & I recently completed the winter book. Yes >>after all these years, they asked for our opinions. >> >I got "the call" from Arbitron this past fall. I gave it a second and then >the "ratings distortion is no joke" poster that used to hang in WCAP's >master control flashed before my eyes, so I begged-off. I dunno, Bill - are you working in the biz right now? Ex-radio people can participate in surveys... -s, who wishes Bill were back on the air fulltime... From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Apr 2 15:30:09 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat Apr 2 15:30:12 2005 Subject: Ratings question References: <424DF16A.18758.9D9801@localhost><007f01c5374e$4e45c820$1404fea9@xyz> <005601c537ab$729c2c20$cae54345@customer> <424EE5BC.6050008@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <003301c537c2$c3beed60$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill O'Neill" To: "Lorraine Smith" Cc: ; "Joseph Pappalardo" Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 1:34 PM Subject: Re: Ratings question > I got "the call" from Arbitron this past fall. I gave it a second and then > the "ratings distortion is no joke" poster that used to hang in WCAP's > master control flashed before my eyes, so I begged-off. Why? Are you currently working in radio? From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Apr 2 15:34:29 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat Apr 2 15:34:30 2005 Subject: Ratings question References: <424DF16A.18758.9D9801@localhost><007f01c5374e$4e45c820$1404fea9@xyz> <005601c537ab$729c2c20$cae54345@customer><424EE5BC.6050008@shoreham.net> <003301c537c2$c3beed60$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <004f01c537c3$5eb09b70$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Now that I think about it -- It's probably not a good idea for ex-radio people to fill out dairies. I know that I wouldn't be honest. I would have to write down that I listen to Chuck every morning on Oldies 100.9, even if that is not actually true. From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Sat Apr 2 15:48:52 2005 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Sat Apr 2 15:45:51 2005 Subject: Ratings question In-Reply-To: <004f01c537c3$5eb09b70$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <000001c537c5$616940e0$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> Dan wrote: >>Now that I think about it -- It's probably not a good idea for ex-radio people to fill out dairies. I know that I wouldn't be honest. I would have to write down that I listen to Chuck every morning on Oldies 100.9, even if that is not actually true.<< *** IF... *** ???? (sniff) - -Chuck ("for God's sake... Write... It... Down... SUPER Q!") Igo From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Apr 2 15:51:51 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat Apr 2 15:51:54 2005 Subject: Ratings question References: <000001c537c5$616940e0$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: <000501c537c5$cbd84340$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Igo" To: "'Daniel Billings'" Cc: "(newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest" Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 3:48 PM Subject: RE: Ratings question > *** IF... *** ???? (sniff) > > - -Chuck ("for God's sake... Write... It... Down... SUPER Q!") Igo Don't be sad. The signal doesn't make it to Waterville. ;-) From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Apr 2 15:52:55 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat Apr 2 15:52:59 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk References: <424DF169.7683.9D96A2@localhost> <5.1.0.14.2.20050402121130.0258ccc0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <000a01c537c5$f59e3b80$19eefea9@dstrassberg> WKOX's pattern is a cardioid centered on 35 degrees. That's a little bit north of northeast. (Northeast would be 45 degrees.) I think the NIF contour covers Framingham, Natick, Marlborough, Lincoln, Sudbury, Wayland, Weston, Sherborn, Southboro, and probably Hudson. The signal is decent in Waltham, Wellesley, and in the western parts of Newton. Since I live very close to the eastern edge of Lexington, I'd say that the signal was more-or-less OK on most nights in Lexington (except right near WTTT, which nowadays is quite good about staying within its channel). On a decent car radio, you should be able to get WKOX quite well at night in the towns I named. The towers are very tall and are top loaded to an electrical height of 215 degrees. If the NIF were lower, you might hear some phasing where the station's own skywave and groundwave duke it out, because towers well in excess of 180 degrees, as these are, pay for their high efficieny with fairly generous high-angle radiation. But WKOX's relatively high NIF (about 14 mV/m) makes the station inaudible amid the clutter on the channel in places where you might otherwise hear phasing. I've never noticed it in Arlington Heights, which is about 16 miles from WKOX's transmitter site (at 100 Mt Wayte Ave in Framingham), even though the night signal here--about 1.4 mV.m--is well below the NIF. WKOX's pattern RMS is more than 420 mV/m, which is huge for 1 kW--almost the equivalent of 2 kW from quarter-wave towers and about the equivalent of 2.25 kW from towers of minimum efficiency for Class B AMs. In the direction of the signal maximum, the effect of the pattern is to more than double the effective power, so you can quite correctly say that, to the north-northeast, over an arc of at least 120 degrees, WKOX is putting out a signal equivalent to 5 kW ND at night. Of course, the day signal is a lot stronger. The AM sections of car radios in general are much more sensitive than the AM sections of table and portable radios. You need a much-better-than-average-quality AM radio for listening to signals of less than about 5 mV/m inside the house. A GE Super Radio III is such a radio, but you have to rotate the radio for best reception. (First rotate the radio to null the desired signal; then rotate the radio 90 degrees, which should maximize the desired signal.) I also have good luck with a Tivoli Audio Kloss Model I table radio enahnced with a Select-A-Tenna tunable passive loop. The Model I is nowhere near sensitive enough without the loop, but with the loop, the sensitivity is quite comparable to that of the Super Radio, which has such a huge internal ferrit-loop antenna that it does not seem to benefit from the external tunable loop. According to a technical person from WKOX who posted at radio-info.com, the station has a new transmitter on order. This may allow slightly greater average modulation levels, but I can't say that I think WKOX isn't modulating enough. In true CCU fashion, the modulation seems quite high, yet the audio sounds pretty clean to my ear. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Dan Strassberg" Cc: Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:13 PM Subject: Re: Two views on Prog. Talk > At 06:52 AM 4/2/2005 -0500, you wrote: > >But if you saw it on a Taxi Top in Coolidge Corner, the cab was most likely > >a BROOKLINE cab, although it could have been a Boston cab. The likelihood of > >a cab from Medford, Malden or Everett, where WXKS is audible at night > >(albeit not so well in most of Medford) being seen in Coolidge Corner is > >quite small. As is the likelihood of a MetroWest cab or even a cab from > >Waltham, where WKOX is audible at night, being seen outside the commuities > >in which the cab is licensed to pick up fares. > > But I am still mystified by where WKOX's signal goes at night. I can't get > it in Worcester, I can't get it in Westboro, and in fact, it isn't even > clear in some parts of Framingham! And as we know, forget about the south > shore. So, allegedly, where is its night pattern supposed to be heard? > From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Apr 2 16:21:44 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat Apr 2 16:21:47 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk References: <424DF169.7683.9D96A2@localhost><5.1.0.14.2.20050402121130.0258ccc0@pop.registeredsite.com> <010801c537b7$8b36e2a0$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <002001c537c9$fb97a220$19eefea9@dstrassberg> You can pretty much forget radio-locator's "coverage maps" for assessing the nighttime coverage of all but a few very old AMs. The outer contour on the radio-locator nighttime maps (and the middle contour of the daytime maps) is 0.5 mV/m. The inner contour is 2.5 mV/m. Aside from Class A AMs (in New England, that means WBZ and WTIC), whose nighttime groundwave service is protected to 0.5 mV/m (these stations also have protected nighttime skywave service), there aren't more than a handful of AMs in the US that receive nighttime protection to anything like 2.5 mV/m. In WKOX's case, the protected contour is approximately 14 mV/m, almost six times the signal strength of radio-locator's inner contour. Can you listen outside of the official NIF contour at night? You bet! But depending on the situation on the band on the particular night you listen and the situation on the channel and the first-adjacent channels, your mileage (literally) will vary--by a lot. You probably stand the best chance of getting a usable signal outside a station's NIF contour when there is only one strong interfering signal (for example, on 740, essentially all that interrferes with WJIB is CHWO). 1200 has a lot of interferers around here. The worst is WTLA N Syracuse NY. Next worst is WAGE Leesburg VA, but there are many more on 1200. And as Laurence pointed out, WPHT on 1210 is a biggie. WLIB on 1190, which also broadcasts Air America, but broadcasts the lineup live, not mostly on delay as WKOX does, is not much of an interferer here because the pattern has a narrow null toward Boston to protect CHTN Charlottown PEI, which hasn't been on 1190 for about 15 years but is still notified to the US and so must be protected. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Pappalardo" To: "Dan Strassberg" ; "Donna Halper" Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 2:09 PM Subject: Re: Two views on Prog. Talk > > From: "Donna Halper" > > > But I am still mystified by where WKOX's signal goes at night. I can't > get > > it in Worcester, I can't get it in Westboro, and in fact, it isn't even > > clear in some parts of Framingham! And as we know, forget about the south > > shore. So, allegedly, where is its night pattern supposed to be heard? > > Take a look at: > > http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WKOX&service=AM&status=L&hours=N > From kc1ih@mac.com Sat Apr 2 16:25:41 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat Apr 2 16:25:38 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk In-Reply-To: <010801c537b7$8b36e2a0$1404fea9@xyz> References: <424DF169.7683.9D96A2@localhost> <5.1.0.14.2.20050402121130.0258ccc0@pop.registeredsite.com> <010801c537b7$8b36e2a0$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050402162334.01e82e90@mail.mac.com> At 02:09 PM 4/2/2005, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: >From: "Donna Halper" > > > But I am still mystified by where WKOX's signal goes at night. I can't >get > > it in Worcester, I can't get it in Westboro, and in fact, it isn't even > > clear in some parts of Framingham! And as we know, forget about the south > > shore. So, allegedly, where is its night pattern supposed to be heard? Going home from work northbound along 93, I get WKOX ok for a while after WXKS gets bad. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From stephanie@gordsven.com Sat Apr 2 16:39:11 2005 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Sat Apr 2 16:39:32 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk In-Reply-To: <26738655.1112470208405.JavaMail.root@wamui10.slb.atl.earthlink.net> References: <26738655.1112470208405.JavaMail.root@wamui10.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 2 Apr 2005, Mark Laurence wrote: > It does explain why Donna can't hear either station on the South Shore, > while I have much better luck with WKOX in Roslindale, even at night, > and while driving on the Mass Pike or Route 9. Anyone have any idea what the condition of the GROUNDING system is for WKOX and WXKS? A lot of these stations have let their ground radiators go to pot. You all know the case of WWZN-1510 and also the station in Washington D.C.: AM 1260 WWRC. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY From sid@wrko.com Sat Apr 2 16:52:13 2005 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sat Apr 2 16:52:32 2005 Subject: Ratings question Message-ID: >>Didn't Willhight mostly specialize in smaller markets that Arbitron didn't rate?<< I believe that's the case, and they may also explain why they failed. Small market radio stations have historically learned to sell their product without having ratings to fall back on. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From billo@shoreham.net Sat Apr 2 17:13:47 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat Apr 2 17:16:28 2005 Subject: WLLH-AM's Lowell Transmitter Still Off-the-air In-Reply-To: <20050402190352.EBD35CA07A@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050402190352.EBD35CA07A@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <424F191B.5010403@shoreham.net> Laurence Glavin wrote: >The >Lawrence stick (usually 'stick' is used metaphorically, >but in this case it's fairly accurate) still provided a pretty >good signal along the swollen-but-not-over-its-banks >Merrimack River in Lowell. > The Lawrence stick on a roof in Lawrence is still getting it done? Who'd a thunkit? The Lowell site is fairly new by radio standards. I have to agree that Mega is playing out the string on a shoestring. WeLieLikeHeck is in for a challenge capturing local dollars for bird sports in a market with some of the best sports talk in the biz only 26 miles SSE. IMHO. Bill O'Neill From radiotony@comcast.net Sat Apr 2 17:31:37 2005 From: radiotony@comcast.net (tony schinella) Date: Sat Apr 2 17:31:45 2005 Subject: Fair & Accurate References: <20050402184235.4A3C5CA07A@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <03a801c537d3$bba2c140$6400a8c0@tony> I caught the tailend of "Beat the Press" last night and there was also a piece on WATD 95.9 FM in Marshfield winning a slew of AP and Murrow Awards. What an impressive radio station and news operation. Best, Tony Schinella radiotony@comcast.net WKXL 1450 Concord, NH News Director/A&E http://www.wkxl1450.com http://politizine.blogspot.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Laurence Glavin To: tony schinella ; bri@bostonradio.org Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 1:42 PM Subject: Re: Fair & Accurate On last night's "Beat the Press" on WGBH-TV, this incident was discussed by Emily and the usual suspects. (It will be broadcast again Sunday morning at 8:00 eDst on WGBX-TV air channel 44, 16 on Comcast.) From dwcole@comcast.net Sat Apr 2 17:38:19 2005 From: dwcole@comcast.net (Dan) Date: Sat Apr 2 17:38:28 2005 Subject: Ratings question References: <000001c537c5$616940e0$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: <004701c537d4$ab95e8d0$61f29318@HP310n> > Dan B. wrote: > >>>Now that I think about it -- It's probably not a good idea for > ex-radio > people to fill out dairies. I know that I wouldn't be honest. I would > have to write down that I listen to Chuck every morning on Oldies > 100.9, even if that is not actually true.<< > > > *** IF... *** ???? (sniff) > > - -Chuck ("for God's sake... Write... It... Down... SUPER Q!") Igo Jeez Chuck! I work two studios down from you and even I don't listen 'every' morning :0 Wait a minute...we have that cross-talk...does that count? The one time I got asked to do a book I admitted to what I do for a living. The sound of the hang-up still rings in my ears. Dan C. From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Apr 2 17:56:06 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat Apr 2 17:57:07 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk In-Reply-To: <010801c537b7$8b36e2a0$1404fea9@xyz> References: <424DF169.7683.9D96A2@localhost> <5.1.0.14.2.20050402121130.0258ccc0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050402175411.025a3ca8@pop.registeredsite.com> And to confuse me even more, I just saw two billboards in QUINCY, where you can't hear either WXKS or WKOX at night, for the Al Franken Show. They are in a colour scheme I wouldn't have used-- very hard to read-- but still, it seems somebody is putting up Air America billboards, although not on a very widespread basis-- I wonder where else these billboards can be seen? From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Apr 2 18:10:15 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat Apr 2 18:11:20 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk In-Reply-To: References: <26738655.1112470208405.JavaMail.root@wamui10.slb.atl.earthlink.net> <26738655.1112470208405.JavaMail.root@wamui10.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050402175938.025badb0@pop.registeredsite.com> >Mark wrote-- > > > It does explain why Donna can't hear either station on the South Shore, > > while I have much better luck with WKOX in Roslindale, even at night, > > and while driving on the Mass Pike or Route 9. Because I am studying for my PhD out at U.Mass/Amherst, I am perpetually on the MassPike, it seems. In the daytime, I can get WKOX (badly, but audibly) in parts of Amherst, and it comes in very well in Quincy till it's time for the pattern change. But at night, when I am driving home from Amherst, the station doesn't come in till I am past the route 495 exit on the Pike, and even then, it is not very loud or clean till I am well past Framingham. The other night, just out of curiosity, I drove route 9 back from Amherst, and the same thing happened-- no WKOX till I was nearly in Framingham. At night, especially in Worcester and also along route 93/128, several other signals come in over WKOX, such as The Team 1200 out of Canada (I think it's CFCA? They carry some Fox Sports net and some local shows). From gary@garysicecream.com Sat Apr 2 20:14:22 2005 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Sat Apr 2 20:14:52 2005 Subject: WLLH-AM's Lowell Transmitter Still Off-the-air In-Reply-To: <424F191B.5010403@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <200504030114.j331EZaZ099367@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> I talked with David Collins (GM of Mega-Boston) on Monday and told him of the transmitter outage. He said "I just found out about that this morning - it will be back on later today - but it is still off. Rumors I've heard are that the ESPN programming is just a day or 2 away from starting on both stations. -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Bill O'Neill Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 5:14 PM To: Laurence Glavin Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: WLLH-AM's Lowell Transmitter Still Off-the-air Laurence Glavin wrote: >The >Lawrence stick (usually 'stick' is used metaphorically, but in this >case it's fairly accurate) still provided a pretty good signal along >the swollen-but-not-over-its-banks Merrimack River in Lowell. > The Lawrence stick on a roof in Lawrence is still getting it done? Who'd a thunkit? The Lowell site is fairly new by radio standards. I have to agree that Mega is playing out the string on a shoestring. WeLieLikeHeck is in for a challenge capturing local dollars for bird sports in a market with some of the best sports talk in the biz only 26 miles SSE. IMHO. Bill O'Neill From raccoonradio@myway.com Sat Apr 2 20:42:34 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat Apr 2 20:43:06 2005 Subject: Hello, _New England_ This Is Howie Carr Message-ID: <20050403014234.045F1396F@mprdmxin.myway.com> (i.e., Howie's syndication is now limited to New England, if the affiliate list on his site is to be believed) Howie Carr has been losing affiliates due perhaps partly to SupeRadio charging for the show. The newly revised affilate list on his site shows he is now confined to New England (and has also lost stations here, like WVMT in Burlington, VT). In fact 11 stations are listed. It used to be over twice that many. No affiliates in Hartford (supposedly a station in Willimantic CT was carrying him though, but not any more?)...Burlington, VT...Providence... Howie has been in places ranging from Kansas to Seattle to Utah to Wisconsin, but not anymore (see below). Maybe it can be blamed on: --SupeRadio charging for the show (or charging more) --Howie's regional focus (do folks in Wichita care about Menino?). He tried to do national but it just didn't work --Presence of hosts like Hannity in the 3-6 pm time slot. more attractive than Howie (and I'm a Howie fan) Right now, the site lists the following affiliates. Well, at least there's online streaming for those outside of New England: WRKO-AM 680 Boston, MA WEMJ-AM 1490 Laconia, NH WKBK-AM 1220 Keene, NH WXTK-95.1 FM West Yarmouth, MA WNTK-99.7 FM New London, NH WGAN-AM 560 Portland, ME WTPL-107.7 FM Concord/Manchester, NH WHYN-AM 560 Springfield, MA WEIM-AM 1280 Fitchburg, MA WVOM-103.9 FM Howland, ME WEGP-AM 1390 Presque Isle, ME (Note: the title of my post refers to how he used to open Jerry Williams' show when he filled in for him: "Hello, New England, this is Howie Carr of the Boston Herald and I'm filling in for the Dean today". He probably also said "Good afternoon New England", or something like that, when his show first started syndication.) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Sat Apr 2 20:46:15 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat Apr 2 20:46:29 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk Message-ID: <20050403014615.3E785396F@mprdmxin.myway.com> Donna wrote: >> In the daytime, I can get WKOX (badly, but audibly) in parts of Amherst I was picking it up half-decently in different parts of Connecticut (well, certainly Framingham is close to "the Quiet Corner" of the Nutmeg state); RI, and southern N.H. >>At night, especially in Worcester and also along route 93/128, several other signals come in over WKOX, such as The Team 1200 out of Canada That happened to me around November or so--it was 5 pm, past sunset of course, and on Rt 128 in Peabody and Lynnfield that Canadian sports station was fighting WKOX, and winning. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Sat Apr 2 21:07:32 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat Apr 2 21:07:37 2005 Subject: Hello, _New England_ This Is Howie Carr In-Reply-To: <20050403014234.045F1396F@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20050403014234.045F1396F@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <200504030207.j3327Wlk099579@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > --Howie's regional focus (do folks in Wichita care about > Menino?). He tried to do national but it just didn't work I don't think folks in Springfield (either one) care about Menino, never mind folks in Wichita. Nothing against the guy, but what relevance does he have for anyone who does not live or work in Boston? One of the things that pissed me off when visiting Boston while growing up in Vermont was the attitude on the part of Boston and Bostonians that all of New England revolved around eastern Mass. Get a grip guys; the other four states would get along perfectly well (if not better) without you. -GAWollman From gary@garysicecream.com Sat Apr 2 21:14:13 2005 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Sat Apr 2 21:14:25 2005 Subject: Hello, _New England_ This Is Howie Carr In-Reply-To: <200504030207.j3327Wlk099579@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <200504030214.j332ELaZ099614@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Gene Burns had the same problem. His show never played well to a national audience, but did well locally when he was in Boston, New York and now San Francisco. -g -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Garrett Wollman Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 9:08 PM To: raccoonradio@myway.com Cc: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Hello, _New England_ This Is Howie Carr < said: > --Howie's regional focus (do folks in Wichita care about Menino?). He > tried to do national but it just didn't work I don't think folks in Springfield (either one) care about Menino, never mind folks in Wichita. Nothing against the guy, but what relevance does he have for anyone who does not live or work in Boston? One of the things that pissed me off when visiting Boston while growing up in Vermont was the attitude on the part of Boston and Bostonians that all of New England revolved around eastern Mass. Get a grip guys; the other four states would get along perfectly well (if not better) without you. -GAWollman From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Sat Apr 2 21:16:06 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat Apr 2 21:16:10 2005 Subject: Ratings question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200504030216.j332G68s099651@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > Ratings services don't call, and haven't for over 30 years. Hooper, the > last ratings service to use the "telephone-coincidental" technique, > closed up shop decades ago. As recently as ten years ago, Strategic Radio Research's AccuRatings service used call-out interviews to gather all of their data. (I was surveyed by them once, around 1996.) The company also did lots of other outbound telemarketing, and went bankrupt in 2001. Their product was unique in that they asked respondents for ranked station preferences for the current period and also for six months prior. -GAWollman From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Sat Apr 2 21:21:35 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat Apr 2 21:21:38 2005 Subject: Ratings question In-Reply-To: <007f01c5374e$4e45c820$1404fea9@xyz> References: <424DF16A.18758.9D9801@localhost> <007f01c5374e$4e45c820$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <200504030221.j332LZAx099675@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > For example, the slogans listed for station WXXX might include: > "Soft Rock", "Johnny Jack in the Morning" & "Softy 101.1" Actually, I think the slogans listed for WXXX would include "95 Triple X" and "Wake up with Mike and Chantal". -GAWollman From DonKelley@aol.com Sat Apr 2 21:43:28 2005 From: DonKelley@aol.com (DonKelley@aol.com) Date: Sat Apr 2 21:44:01 2005 Subject: Ratings question Message-ID: Garret is probably correct on that. But nobody writes a slogan in a diary. Mostly because they're not asked to. They're asked for call letters, dial setting, or station name. If you don't know they ask if you know the program name. No mention of slogan. The late WJIB FM 97 had the following slogan registered with Arbitron: "Couldn't you use a little." As in "couldn't you use a little Jib today?" But it was truncated by the 25-character limit. A grand total of nobody wrote that in a diary. Picture it. Someone asks you what station you heard this morning. Would you answer, "why, I was listening to "couldn;t you use a little?" Frequency alone is the most common entry. Even for stations like Kiss 108. Diarykeepers write "107.9" even though - to my knowledge - Kiss 108 has never once uttered that. People answer the question that is asked. What's the station? They look at the radio. What does it say? That's what they write down. From revdoug1@verizon.net Sat Apr 2 22:01:24 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Sat Apr 2 21:58:27 2005 Subject: Hello, _New England_ This Is Howie Carr References: <20050403014234.045F1396F@mprdmxin.myway.com> <200504030207.j3327Wlk099579@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <065701c537f9$6e17b900$6501a8c0@pastor2> Howie has a lot of faithful listeners up here in Maine. I think his complaints about Boston reinforce the loathing a lot of Mainers have for the place. (I personally don't happen to be among them, having been raised near there, but I gotta admit --- life in The Hub, as Howie tells it, is certainly fodder for a few good yuks on occasion.) Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 9:07 PM Subject: Hello, _New England_ This Is Howie Carr > < said: > > > --Howie's regional focus (do folks in Wichita care about > > Menino?). He tried to do national but it just didn't work > > I don't think folks in Springfield (either one) care about Menino, > never mind folks in Wichita. Nothing against the guy, but what > relevance does he have for anyone who does not live or work in Boston? > > One of the things that pissed me off when visiting Boston while > growing up in Vermont was the attitude on the part of Boston and > Bostonians that all of New England revolved around eastern Mass. Get > a grip guys; the other four states would get along perfectly well (if > not better) without you. > > -GAWollman > > From mkr@northcountrymercantile.com Sat Apr 2 22:17:59 2005 From: mkr@northcountrymercantile.com (Matthew Reed) Date: Sat Apr 2 22:20:14 2005 Subject: Ratings question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sid Schweiger wrote: >>> Didn't Willhight mostly specialize in smaller markets that Arbitron > didn't rate?<< > > I believe that's the case, and they may also explain why they failed. > Small market radio stations have historically learned to sell their > product without having ratings to fall back on. This raises a question that has often occurred to me. Large market stations seem to rely heavily on ratings to sell advertising and make programming changes. How do small market stations make a decision to change formats (or at least justify that decision) without the ratings data to back it up? Is it purely arbitrary or are there any other indicators about the popularity of a format for listeners or advertisers? --- Matthew Reed mkr@northcountrymercantile.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Apr 3 00:10:47 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Apr 3 00:10:52 2005 Subject: Ratings question In-Reply-To: <007f01c5374e$4e45c820$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <424F3487.10907.215330@localhost> On 2 Apr 2005 at 1:36, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > No station can use the same slogan as an idenifier. I assume that this doesn't apply to two simulcasting stations. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Apr 3 00:10:48 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Apr 3 00:11:02 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <424F3488.25417.2154E3@localhost> On 2 Apr 2005 at 9:20, Eli Polonsky wrote: > It makes sense to me for them to advertise on Brookline cabs, and they > do on many of them. It's a prime demo for them in the daytime where > WXKS-AM comes in fine, and also WKOX-AM in the daytime hits the west > side toward Chestnut Hill and Putterham Circle fairly well. As well, > I'd think that many of the listeners in that area who discover them in > the car in the daytime may seek out the web stream at home if they > want to hear them after sundown and discover they can't (well) on the > radio. WKOX covers all of Brookline and Boston quite well in the daytime, at least in my car. I hear it fine at home in Washington Square. I usually use WXKS, but both come in quite well. I have buttons set for both on my car radio, but in many places I can't tell much difference in reception. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Apr 3 00:10:48 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Apr 3 00:11:06 2005 Subject: Ratings question In-Reply-To: <005601c537ab$729c2c20$cae54345@customer> Message-ID: <424F3488.17642.215537@localhost> On 2 Apr 2005 at 12:43, Lorraine Smith wrote: > My daughter & I recently completed the winter book. Yes > after all these years, they asked for our opinions. My sister's family had a TV ratings book a number of years ago. My mother was living with them at the time, and she was the KP pusher who made sure the kids kept their ratings diaries accurately. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Apr 3 00:10:48 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Apr 3 00:11:08 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk In-Reply-To: <000601c5377a$80502140$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <424F3488.15765.215432@localhost> On 2 Apr 2005 at 6:52, Dan Strassberg wrote: > But if you saw it on a Taxi Top in Coolidge Corner, the cab was most > likely a BROOKLINE cab, although it could have been a Boston cab. I've seen it on several taxi tops, in Brookline and in Government Center. It was specifically promoting the Al Franken Show, which is on from noon to three. Wherever it was located, I'm sure people could listen if work didn't prevent it. When I'm at home or in my car at that hour, I listen. When I'm in my office, I don't (I tried a couple of times, but it distracted me too much from my work). We only know about the few cabs that some one of us noticed. They may well be advertising on cabs in Medford or in Metro West, without us knowing it yet. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Apr 3 00:10:47 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Apr 3 00:11:09 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050402175411.025a3ca8@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <010801c537b7$8b36e2a0$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <424F3487.27924.21538A@localhost> On 2 Apr 2005 at 17:56, Donna Halper wrote: > And to confuse me even more, I just saw two billboards in QUINCY, > where you can't hear either WXKS or WKOX at night, for the Al Franken > Show. They are in a colour scheme I wouldn't have used-- very hard to > read-- but still, it seems somebody is putting up Air America > billboards, although not on a very widespread basis-- I wonder where > else these billboards can be seen? But the Al Franken Show is on from noon to 3:00 PM. So who cares whether you can't hear it at night? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Apr 3 00:10:48 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Apr 3 00:11:11 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk In-Reply-To: <000a01c537c5$f59e3b80$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <424F3488.2006.2155EF@localhost> On 2 Apr 2005 at 15:52, Dan Strassberg wrote: > According to a technical person from WKOX who posted at > radio-info.com, the station has a new transmitter on order. This may > allow slightly greater average modulation levels, but I can't say that > I think WKOX isn't modulating enough. In true CCU fashion, the > modulation seems quite high, yet the audio sounds pretty clean to my > ear. They've been saying in station spots for the Web streaming that they're "fighting" to increase their power. I suppose this is one thing they're doing, but I wonder if they're doing anything else. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Apr 3 00:10:48 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Apr 3 00:11:13 2005 Subject: Fair & Accurate In-Reply-To: <02a901c5378d$1aaaba40$6400a8c0@tony> Message-ID: <424F3488.27025.21548E@localhost> On 2 Apr 2005 at 9:06, tony schinella wrote: > It is clear that MSNBC is giving FoxNews a tweak > for their 'The Pope is Dead ...' gaffe yesterday. > Their new motto? We're Fair & Accurate Good for them. But I thought it was CNN that made that gaffe. Things like that have happened to others from time to time. I remember a number of years ago that someone accidentally released the news of Bob Hope's death, and tributes to him were being delivered in either the House or Senate before the news was retracted. This was several years before he actually died. Or, as Mark Twain said, "Rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated." -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From scott@fybush.com Sun Apr 3 00:20:13 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun Apr 3 00:20:25 2005 Subject: Fair & Accurate In-Reply-To: <424F3488.27025.21548E@localhost> References: <02a901c5378d$1aaaba40$6400a8c0@tony> <424F3488.27025.21548E@localhost> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20050403001354.01fbce48@gwind.pair.com> At 12:10 AM 4/3/2005, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >On 2 Apr 2005 at 9:06, tony schinella wrote: > > > It is clear that MSNBC is giving FoxNews a tweak > > for their 'The Pope is Dead ...' gaffe yesterday. > > Their new motto? We're Fair & Accurate > >Good for them. But I thought it was CNN that made that gaffe. BillO reports having heard such a report on CNN Radio. I was flipping back and forth among CNNMSNBCFNC Friday afternoon and heard the Fox News report, in which an overeager, overly aggressive young producer (the kind of "newsperson" who drove me, screaming, out of the TV news business) was heard off-camera misunderstanding the translation of an Italian news conference and shouting, "Pope is dead! Hellooo...Pope is dead!," which led Shepard Smith to launch into a full-fledged obituary for the not-quite-dead-yet Pontiff. It took about half an hour for the misunderstanding to be cleared up and for Smith to apologize. (Which is, I'd note, more than he's ever done to the freelance reporter who was working for my station during the 2000 recount in Florida when he ran her over while trying to grab a parking space in which she was standing, but I digress.) You can see (or rather, hear) it here - http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/the_pope/pope_on_fnc_shep_smith_declares_pope_dead_then_retracts_it_20057.asp CNN's banner at one point went so far as to say that "Italian news agencies" were reporting that the Pope had died, but at least on the TV network, that was never treated as confirmed fact yesterday. s From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Apr 3 00:38:52 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Apr 3 00:38:48 2005 Subject: Fair & Accurate In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.0.20050403001354.01fbce48@gwind.pair.com> References: <424F3488.27025.21548E@localhost> Message-ID: <424F3B1C.26301.3B0779@localhost> On 3 Apr 2005 at 0:20, Scott Fybush wrote: > BillO reports having heard such a report on CNN Radio. I was flipping > back and forth among CNNMSNBCFNC Friday afternoon and heard the Fox > News report, in which an overeager, overly aggressive young producer > (the kind of "newsperson" who drove me, screaming, out of the TV news > business) was heard off-camera misunderstanding the translation of an > Italian news conference and shouting, "Pope is dead! Hellooo...Pope is > dead!," which led Shepard Smith to launch into a full-fledged obituary > for the not-quite-dead-yet Pontiff. It took about half an hour for the > misunderstanding to be cleared up and for Smith to apologize. (Which > is, I'd note, more than he's ever done to the freelance reporter who > was working for my station during the 2000 recount in Florida when he > ran her over while trying to grab a parking space in which she was > standing, but I digress.) This rather reminds me of the false story that came out in April 1964 to the effect that Khrushchev had died. It happened on an afternoon when I was the news announcer on WMUA at UMass. The teletype reports said that there had been an unconfirmed report that Khrushchev had died. At one point there was an elaboration that Khrushchev had died suddenly at some function or other. I used the reports that said it was unconfirmed, but when I did my newscast, I had someone stand by the teletype, to come in with anything new that came in while I was on air. As it happened, the guy was a wise guy and simply stood at the studio door, yelling at me some nonsense. Of course, I just ignored him and continued the newscast. By the evening newscast on television, it was clearly an erroneous report, and Radio Moscow had denounced it as a deliberate provocation. Eventually, it turned out that Tass, the Soviet news agency, had been sending the text of a Khrushchev speech and suddenly stopped midway through. When someone at the receiving end called the sending site to ask why they had stopped, the reply was "It is dead," meaning that the line had gone dead. The person receiving had misinterpreted the statement as "He is dead." -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 01:05:04 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sun Apr 3 01:10:25 2005 Subject: Hello, _New England_ This Is Howie Carr References: <20050403014234.045F1396F@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <00ac01c53813$c9774c60$1404fea9@xyz> From: "Bob Nelson" > Maybe it can be blamed on: > > --Howie's regional focus (do folks in Wichita care about Menino?). He tried to do national but it just didn't work > He does very little Menino or anything local between 3 and 6. The 6PM hour is his "local hour". (Which wouldn't be inappropriate for another New England station to take...but do any of them take it?) But I think you're right. Outside of New England, and his knowlegdge of New England issues, (i.e...Whitey, Hacks, State House, Menino...), is there anything that makes him a good talk host (in general)? Anything that makes him a compelling show in Madison or Deluth? In those markets I would assume he's just another generic talk show host. But in all fairness, I don't think ABC radio really pushed to market his show (as they do with Hannity). And SupeRadio never has agresively marketed anything (beyond John G's Open House Party). I would assume the New England affiliates he gets are almost by default. From hykker@grolen.com Sun Apr 3 10:07:27 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sun Apr 3 10:08:19 2005 Subject: Hello, _New England_ This Is Howie Carr In-Reply-To: <00ac01c53813$c9774c60$1404fea9@xyz> References: <20050403014234.045F1396F@mprdmxin.myway.com> <00ac01c53813$c9774c60$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050403100517.01b45f60@pop3.grolen.com> Joseph Pappalardo wrote: >But in all fairness, I don't think ABC radio really pushed to market his >show (as they do with Hannity). > >And SupeRadio never has agresively marketed anything (beyond John G's Open >House Party). AFAIK, ABC never syndicated Howie's show...they just rented whoever did syndicate it the satellite time. From rjoc@webtv.net Sun Apr 3 10:09:32 2005 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Sun Apr 3 10:09:45 2005 Subject: Ratings question Message-ID: <20050403140932.DC0FAD810@smtpout-3202.bay.webtv.net> Willhight was based in Seattle. While I was at KMXT Kodiak, Alaska between 1984-1999 we used their services, along with the local commercial station on the island. They were strictly phone calls. Back when we had the survey in 1987 even Anchorage was not an Arbitron market. Willhight was very popular among Alaska Broadcasters. They covered all the Alaskan markets, Anchorage, Juneau, Fairbanks, Kodiak, Ketchikan, Sitka. They were also fairly "cheap" too, especially for a small non-comm/Public station. I think we paid $500 for their services. They gave us a big discount as a non-profit organization and I'm sure they got a decent tax write-off. We gained a lot of info from their survey, which I thought was amazingly accurate. But then, the listening audience on Kodiak Island in the late 80's/early 90's was only 12,000 people. I was wondering whatever happened to them, after this thread got going. Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine (Former volunteer>Morning Host>PD KMXT FM/TV Kodiak, Alaska) From hykker@grolen.com Sun Apr 3 10:09:58 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sun Apr 3 10:10:05 2005 Subject: Hello, _New England_ This Is Howie Carr In-Reply-To: <200504030207.j3327Wlk099579@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <20050403014234.045F1396F@mprdmxin.myway.com> <200504030207.j3327Wlk099579@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050403100751.01b44d78@pop3.grolen.com> Garrett Wollman wrote: >One of the things that pissed me off when visiting Boston while >growing up in Vermont was the attitude on the part of Boston and >Bostonians that all of New England revolved around eastern Mass. Get >a grip guys; the other four states would get along perfectly well (if >not better) without you. Other -4- states? Which New England state couldn't get along without Boston? There were 6 last time I counted. From rjoc@webtv.net Sun Apr 3 10:35:39 2005 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Sun Apr 3 10:35:49 2005 Subject: Ratings question Message-ID: <20050403143539.23EE0D681@smtpout-3204.bay.webtv.net> Speaking of 100.9...when will the new WMGX/WYNZ tower in Portland be ready? I was in Portland 2 weeks ago, and they were just starting to put the antenna bays at the top of the mast. I even had some extra time, and pulled into the parking lot at the tower and watched the workers hoist the bays up. Fascinating to see (to us tower geeks) The huge concrete and steel guy anchors in the middle of the marsh are impressive and look like they could handle quite a strain. It's a pretty cool-looking tower! Rod O'Connor Soggy Southwest Harbor, Maine Still not adjusting to "Hello Frank, Good Bye Frank Sinatra" on 105.5 WBYA From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Apr 3 12:17:41 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sun Apr 3 12:17:47 2005 Subject: Hello, _New England_ This Is Howie Carr References: <20050403014234.045F1396F@mprdmxin.myway.com><200504030207.j3327Wlk099579@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <6.0.3.0.0.20050403100751.01b44d78@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <000d01c53868$a967e600$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "SteveOrdinetz" To: Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 10:09 AM Subject: Re: Hello, _New England_ This Is Howie Carr > Other -4- states? Which New England state couldn't get along without > Boston? There were 6 last time I counted. New Hampshire. From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Apr 3 12:19:23 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sun Apr 3 12:19:33 2005 Subject: Ratings question References: <20050403143539.23EE0D681@smtpout-3204.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <001501c53868$e5f378a0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod O'Connor" To: "Chuck Igo" Cc: Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 10:35 AM Subject: RE: Ratings question > Speaking of 100.9...when will the new WMGX/WYNZ tower in Portland be > ready? I just drove by the tower this morning and was surprised to see it back up. I don't get to Portland much these days. The tower looked complete, though there was a crane nearby and I couldn't see the top due to fog. From lorraine6474@usadatanet.net Sun Apr 3 12:48:47 2005 From: lorraine6474@usadatanet.net (Lorraine Smith) Date: Sun Apr 3 12:50:11 2005 Subject: Ratings question References: <424DF16A.18758.9D9801@localhost><007f01c5374e$4e45c820$1404fea9@xyz> <005601c537ab$729c2c20$cae54345@customer><424EE5BC.6050008@shoreham.net> <003301c537c2$c3beed60$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <004f01c537c3$5eb09b70$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <00b901c5386d$03626d20$250eda42@customer> From: Daniel Billings > Now that I think about it -- It's probably not a good idea for ex-radio > people to fill out dairies. I know that I wouldn't be honest. > I would have to write down that I listen to Chuck every morning on Oldies > 100.9, even if that is not actually true. I totally disagree. I have not been on the air for over 10 years now. I filled out my diary honestly, and did not "vote" for any of my buddies stations unless I actually listened. Lorraine From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Apr 3 13:07:31 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sun Apr 3 13:07:34 2005 Subject: Ratings question References: <424DF16A.18758.9D9801@localhost><007f01c5374e$4e45c820$1404fea9@xyz> <005601c537ab$729c2c20$cae54345@customer><424EE5BC.6050008@shoreham.net> <003301c537c2$c3beed60$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <004f01c537c3$5eb09b70$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <00b901c5386d$03626d20$250eda42@customer> Message-ID: <000501c5386f$9fe6b730$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorraine Smith" To: "Daniel Billings" ; Cc: ; "Joseph Pappalardo" Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 12:48 PM Subject: Re: Ratings question > I totally disagree. > > I have not been on the air for over 10 years now. > I filled out my diary honestly, and did not "vote" > for any of my buddies stations unless I actually > listened. Good for you. I did not say that former radio people should be banned from participating in surveys. I just said that based on what I would likely do, their participation may not be a good idea. I know that I probably wouldn't be so honest. Maybe I'm an exception, but I don't think so. I have friends whose livelihood could depend on the outcome of ratings and I would do what I could to help them out. My loyalty would overcome any interest in the integrity of a flawed process. If that makes me a bad person so be it. Maybe I'd just try to listen to my friends more often so I could be honest. But I know I would not just write down Imus on WZAN and Maine Public Radio, which are the stations that I actually spend the most time listening to most mornings. From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Apr 3 13:31:11 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun Apr 3 13:31:19 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk References: <26738655.1112470208405.JavaMail.root@wamui10.slb.atl.earthlink.net><26738655.1112470208405.JavaMail.root@wamui10.slb.atl.earthlink.net> <5.1.0.14.2.20050402175938.025badb0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <001e01c53872$f2fcad00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I think the Canadian you are getting on 1200 is CFGO Ottawa. 50 kW DA-2, but it protects WKOX at night--at least it should if it switches to its night pattern, which as we all know, has not been a very popular practice among Canadian AMs for the last decade or so. AMSTNS shows two setups for CFGO with essentially identical six-tower night arrays. One uses three of the night towers to form the day pattern; the other uses four. The four-tower day pattern would provide somewhat better CH protection to WKOX, but neither day pattern is terrible in that regard. I don't know which setup is the more recent or whether the newer setup (whichever of the two it is) is on the air. In AMSTNS, only one setup displays a date and it isn't what I'd call very useful--August 14 (no year). Aside from discovering that the application was filed (or granted, or something) on Bastille Day in an unknown year, I've learned nothing. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 7:10 PM Subject: Re: Two views on Prog. Talk > > >Mark wrote-- > > > > > It does explain why Donna can't hear either station on the South Shore, > > > while I have much better luck with WKOX in Roslindale, even at night, > > > and while driving on the Mass Pike or Route 9. > > Because I am studying for my PhD out at U.Mass/Amherst, I am perpetually on > the MassPike, it seems. In the daytime, I can get WKOX (badly, but > audibly) in parts of Amherst, and it comes in very well in Quincy till it's > time for the pattern change. But at night, when I am driving home from > Amherst, the station doesn't come in till I am past the route 495 exit on > the Pike, and even then, it is not very loud or clean till I am well past > Framingham. The other night, just out of curiosity, I drove route 9 back > from Amherst, and the same thing happened-- no WKOX till I was nearly in > Framingham. At night, especially in Worcester and also along route > 93/128, several other signals come in over WKOX, such as The Team 1200 out > of Canada (I think it's CFCA? They carry some Fox Sports net and some > local shows). > From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Apr 3 13:29:23 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun Apr 3 13:31:21 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk References: <424F3488.2006.2155EF@localhost> Message-ID: <001d01c53872$f1b62340$19eefea9@dstrassberg> The new transmitter is not related to the power increase. It's simply a replacement of the existing 10 kW unit, which is 20 years old (assuming that WKOX didn't use a "pre-owned" rig when it increased to 10 kW D and went fulltime in 1985). Sid Schweiger would know whether WKOX's current TX was new in '85 because he was CE of WKOX at that time. I don't have a clue about whether WKOX would retain the existing TX as an auxiliary after the new unit is installed. The current auxiliary is a 1-kW unit--presumably, it was the main TX back when WKOX was a 1 kW daytimer. The only CP WKOX holds for a power increase involves a move to WUNR's Newton site, and everybody on this list knows that the Newton Board of Aldermen shot that down last year by a 40 to 0 vote. As far as the FCC is concerned, though, the move to Newton and increase to 50 kW-U is an open issue because the CP was never cancelled. The text of the promo that WKOX has been running suggests that CCU is fighting the Aldermen's action in court, but as an attorney, you would have a better chance than I would of knowing whether that is the case (literally, I guess). I'm guessing that you don't know. BTW, a week ago or so, you posted on why CCU might be listing WKOX ahead of WXKS whenever it refers to the two stations. Yes 1200 is a lower number than 1430. Moreover, WKOX comes ahead of WXKS in the alphabet. But also, I think that when and if WKOX ever gets its power increase, CCU is likely to sell off WXKS. I have to presume, too, that someone at CCU likes the WKOX calls and that the station would retain those calls if it ever gained a full-market signal. But that seems to be thinking too far ahead. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Donna Halper" ; "Dan Strassberg" Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 1:10 AM Subject: Re: Two views on Prog. Talk > On 2 Apr 2005 at 15:52, Dan Strassberg wrote: > > > According to a technical person from WKOX who posted at > > radio-info.com, the station has a new transmitter on order. This may > > allow slightly greater average modulation levels, but I can't say that > > I think WKOX isn't modulating enough. In true CCU fashion, the > > modulation seems quite high, yet the audio sounds pretty clean to my > > ear. > > They've been saying in station spots for the Web streaming that they're "fighting" to increase > their power. I suppose this is one thing they're doing, but I wonder if they're doing anything > else. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > From brimatt1@aol.com Sun Apr 3 13:47:39 2005 From: brimatt1@aol.com (brimatt1@aol.com) Date: Sun Apr 3 13:47:55 2005 Subject: Hello, _New England_ This Is Howie Carr In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050403100517.01b45f60@pop3.grolen.com> References: <20050403014234.045F1396F@mprdmxin.myway.com> <00ac01c53813$c9774c60$1404fea9@xyz> <6.0.3.0.0.20050403100517.01b45f60@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <8C7068C5D42740C-754-23C11@mblk-r19.sysops.aol.com> ABC did syndicate the show around 2000-2001 timeframe...they dropped him when they started syndicating Sean Hannity (I believe). WRKO then self-syndicated him until Superradio took the syndication. John Kennedy -----Original Message----- From: SteveOrdinetz To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Sent: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 10:07:27 -0400 Subject: Re: Hello, _New England_ This Is Howie Carr Joseph Pappalardo wrote: >But in all fairness, I don't think ABC radio really pushed to market his >show (as they do with Hannity). > >And SupeRadio never has agresively marketed anything (beyond John G's Open >House Party). AFAIK, ABC never syndicated Howie's show...they just rented whoever did syndicate it the satellite time. From sid@wrko.com Sun Apr 3 17:24:20 2005 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sun Apr 3 17:24:48 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk Message-ID: >>It's simply a replacement of the existing 10 kW unit, which is 20 years old (assuming that WKOX didn't use a "pre-owned" rig when it increased to 10 kW D and went fulltime in 1985). Sid Schweiger would know whether WKOX's current TX was new in '85 because he was CE of WKOX at that time. I don't have a clue about whether WKOX would retain the existing TX as an auxiliary after the new unit is installed. The current auxiliary is a 1-kW unit--presumably, it was the main TX back when WKOX was a 1 kW daytimer.<< Well, I was there, but I wasn't the CE. The 10 kW rig was new at the time...a Continental. The Gates BC-1G that was the main on 1190 was kept as the backup, and the Raytheon 1 kW aux was scrapped when we went to 1200. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From sgitschier@cfl.rr.com Sun Apr 3 18:18:21 2005 From: sgitschier@cfl.rr.com (Sandra) Date: Sun Apr 3 18:18:40 2005 Subject: Ratings question References: <424DF16A.18758.9D9801@localhost> <007f01c5374e$4e45c820$1404fea9@xyz> <005601c537ab$729c2c20$cae54345@customer> <424EE5BC.6050008@shoreham.net> <003301c537c2$c3beed60$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <004f01c537c3$5eb09b70$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <00b901c5386d$03626d20$250eda42@customer> <000501c5386f$9fe6b730$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <000e01c5389b$0c1a3e60$0400a8c0@AL> I voted for myself when I jocked at WYHI 1570 Fernandina Beach, FL (Jacksonville, FL book/ADI), which isn't a lie; it was through the air monitor. Ron Gitschier (Rocky W. Shore) Palm Coast, FL Formerly Lowell, MA, WLLH WSSH Alum, 1978. > Subject: Re: Ratings question >> I totally disagree. >> I have not been on the air for over 10 years now. >> I filled out my diary honestly, and did not "vote" >> for any of my buddies stations unless I actually >> listened. From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Apr 3 18:35:32 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Apr 3 18:35:34 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk In-Reply-To: <001d01c53872$f1b62340$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <42503774.26607.11D4931@localhost> On 3 Apr 2005 at 13:29, Dan Strassberg wrote: > The only CP WKOX holds for a power increase involves a move to WUNR's > Newton site, and everybody on this list knows that the Newton Board of > Aldermen shot that down last year by a 40 to 0 vote. As far as the FCC > is concerned, though, the move to Newton and increase to 50 kW-U is an > open issue because the CP was never cancelled. The text of the promo > that WKOX has been running suggests that CCU is fighting the > Aldermen's action in court, but as an attorney, you would have a > better chance than I would of knowing whether that is the case > (literally, I guess). I'm guessing that you don't know. There are many cases filed in the courts every day, and I have no way of knowing about them unless I consult a particular docket. I believe federal court dockets may be accessible online for a fee, but state court dockets are not. I'm not curious enough to want to pay the fee. > BTW, a week ago or so, you posted on why CCU might be listing WKOX > ahead of WXKS whenever it refers to the two stations. Yes 1200 is a > lower number than 1430. Moreover, WKOX comes ahead of WXKS in the > alphabet. But also, I think that when and if WKOX ever gets its power > increase, CCU is likely to sell off WXKS. I have to presume, too, that > someone at CCU likes the WKOX calls and that the station would retain > those calls if it ever gained a full-market signal. But that seems to > be thinking too far ahead. The refer to themselves on the air as AM 1200 and 1430, and while I haven't paid attention to a legal ID lately, I assume they also say WKOX before WXKS. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From stevewest106@hotmail.com Mon Apr 4 08:27:31 2005 From: stevewest106@hotmail.com (Steve West) Date: Mon Apr 4 08:27:49 2005 Subject: Everything revolves around Boston - NOT! In-Reply-To: <200504030207.j3327Wlk099579@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: Our Esteemed Moderator wrote: >One of the things that pissed me off when visiting Boston while >growing up in Vermont was the attitude on the part of Boston and >Bostonians that all of New England revolved around eastern Mass. Get >a grip guys; the other four states would get along perfectly well (if >not better) without you. > >-GAWollman > I can remember when I worked in radio in Western Mass., AP's state news was mainly focused on events occurring inside Rt. 495 with a bit of coverage of the regional cities - but virtually nothing on issues that meant something to us out in the Pioneer Valley. Maybe that's what made me the dial-flipper and DX hound that I am - to get interesting news which was NOT about Boston, I'd flip to WTSA Brattleboro (they had a great newsman at the time, Larry Smith (Southern Vermont Radio News is how they packaged it)... WKNE Keene, WHAI Greenfield (before I worked for them), even WGY out in Albany - they had a great signal in Western/Central Mass and did lots of news... none of it revolving around Boston! And, strangely enough, the first 3 that I mentioned back in the early 80s simulcast at least the news on their FMs. WTSA 1450's FM was called WMMJ, WKNE 1290's FM was WNBX-FM and both did beautiful music. How did I get so far off topic?.... sorry! From raccoonradio@myway.com Mon Apr 4 13:27:50 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon Apr 4 13:28:12 2005 Subject: Globe "correction" Message-ID: <20050404172750.CB4E512CE1@mprdmxin.myway.com> After informing the Globe's corrections dept. about the Mark Jurkowitz article (claiming that WKOX and WXKS are sunrise to sunset only) I received the following: "Mr. Jurkowitz has tried listening to those two stations at night and they can barely be heard. The spokesman for the two stations, Joe Mazzei, told him it was accurate to say they had a sunrise to sunset license." Well then Jurkowitz should have worded it as "they have to change their direction or power down at sunset". _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From scott@fybush.com Mon Apr 4 14:15:39 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon Apr 4 14:15:37 2005 Subject: Globe "correction" In-Reply-To: <20050404172750.CB4E512CE1@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050404141523.029c2d18@gwind.pair.com> At 01:27 PM 4/4/2005 -0400, Bob Nelson wrote: > After informing the Globe's corrections dept. about the Mark Jurkowitz > article (claiming that WKOX and WXKS are sunrise to sunset only) >I received the following: > >"Mr. Jurkowitz has tried listening to those two stations at night and they >can barely be heard. The spokesman for the two stations, Joe Mazzei, told >him it was accurate to say they had a sunrise to sunset license." > >Well then Jurkowitz should have worded it as "they have to change their >direction or power down at sunset". I e-mailed Mark about it and have heard nothing back... s From raccoonradio@myway.com Mon Apr 4 15:48:04 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon Apr 4 15:48:20 2005 Subject: Globe Message-ID: <20050404194804.3827A3A19@mprdmxin.myway.com> On Mon 04/04, Scott Fybush < scott@fybush.com > wrote: >>I e-mailed Mark about it and have heard nothing back... Thank you-- I have just emailed the Globe's ombudsman mentioning the reply I got and urging them to print a correction. I thought that there would have been a correction printed after my first email so I haven't bothered to email Mark. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Apr 4 16:46:20 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon Apr 4 16:46:34 2005 Subject: Globe "correction" Message-ID: <20050404204620.A11EB86B0F@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bob Nelson" >To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org >Subject: Globe "correction" >Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 13:27:50 -0400 (EDT) > > > After informing the Globe's corrections dept. about the Mark > Jurkowitz article (claiming that WKOX and WXKS are sunrise to > sunset only) > I received the following: > > "Mr. Jurkowitz has tried listening to those two stations at night and they > can barely be heard. The spokesman for the two stations, Joe Mazzei, told > him it was accurate to say they had a sunrise to sunset license." > > Well then Jurkowitz should have worded it as "they have to change their > direction or power down at sunset". > > > > The Globe's almanac has declared tha since it's cloudy out, the opposition of Jupiter scheduled for tonight will not take place. -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 17:51:12 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Mon Apr 4 17:51:59 2005 Subject: Globe "correction" References: <20050404204620.A11EB86B0F@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <006a01c53960$75cf7120$1404fea9@xyz> > > After informing the Globe's corrections dept. about the Mark > > Jurkowitz article (claiming that WKOX and WXKS are sunrise to > > sunset only) > > I received the following: > > > > "Mr. Jurkowitz has tried listening to those two stations at night and they > > can barely be heard. The spokesman for the two stations, Joe Mazzei, told > > him it was accurate to say they had a sunrise to sunset license." > > > > Well then Jurkowitz should have worded it as "they have to change their > > direction or power down at sunset". Give the guy a break will ya? A spokesman for the station told him that they have a "sunrise to sunset" station. If that's what the spokeman for the stations are telling him....then he's off the hook as far as I am concerned. Give him some slack. From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Apr 4 18:15:00 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Mon Apr 4 18:15:05 2005 Subject: Globe "correction" References: <20050404204620.A11EB86B0F@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> <006a01c53960$75cf7120$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <000c01c53963$c430b880$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Well then, Mr Mazzei should be fired. This is the second time in the past year that a spokesman for a greater Boston AM has told the press that his station's nighttime facilities were not as good as they are. The first time it was the (then) GM of WWZN, who insisted in a couple of interviews that the station's night power, which is actually 50 kW, was only 5 kW. But Jurkowitz should not be let off the hook completely. According to the report, he was able to hear both stations after sunset--albeit not very clearly. When he was told that the stations have daytime-only licenses, he should have pressed his source a little harder, as in, "Then tell me, how come I can hear the stations at all at night? If they have daytime-only licenses, shouldn't they go off the air after sunset?" There is a good wrong answer to that question, too (PSSAs extend as much as two hours past local sunset), but I doubt that that's what Jurkowitz was told. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Pappalardo" To: "Laurence Glavin" ; ; Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 5:51 PM Subject: Re: Globe "correction" > > > > After informing the Globe's corrections dept. about the Mark > > > Jurkowitz article (claiming that WKOX and WXKS are sunrise to > > > sunset only) > > > I received the following: > > > > > > "Mr. Jurkowitz has tried listening to those two stations at night and > they > > > can barely be heard. The spokesman for the two stations, Joe Mazzei, > told > > > him it was accurate to say they had a sunrise to sunset license." > > > > > > Well then Jurkowitz should have worded it as "they have to change their > > > direction or power down at sunset". > > Give the guy a break will ya? > > A spokesman for the station told him that they have a "sunrise to sunset" > station. > > If that's what the spokeman for the stations are telling him....then he's > off the hook as far as I am concerned. > > Give him some slack. > From scott@fybush.com Mon Apr 4 21:58:47 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon Apr 4 21:58:39 2005 Subject: WLLH Lowell tx Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050404215801.02a75db0@gwind.pair.com> I heard back from Mega's corporate engineer this evening, and he says: >You guys know more than we do. Yes, it was off. The UPS for the R/C died, >and there was no control or notification. With the Lawrence site, it's >sometimes hard to tell. Tell them thanks. So, from the soon-to-be-ex-owners...thanks, I guess. s From markwats@comcast.net Mon Apr 4 22:24:40 2005 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Mon Apr 4 22:24:59 2005 Subject: WLLH Lowell tx References: <5.1.0.14.0.20050404215801.02a75db0@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <002701c53986$a181b3c0$6f918318@Mark> Scott Fybush wrote: >I heard back from Mega's corporate engineer this evening, and he says: > >>You guys know more than we do. Yes, it was off. The UPS for the R/C >>died, >>and there was no control or notification. With the Lawrence site, it's >>sometimes hard to tell. Tell them thanks. I just checked, and the WLLH Lowell transmitter is back on the air after 3 weeks off. IIRC, Gary Francis posted here recently that he had called someone at Mega in Boston to tell them about the Lowell transmitter being off, don't know if that person got the word to engineering. Guess they don't take transmitter readings anymore. Mark Watson From lawyer@attorneyross.com Tue Apr 5 00:48:36 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue Apr 5 00:50:22 2005 Subject: Globe "correction" In-Reply-To: <20050404204620.A11EB86B0F@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <4251E064.21065.8B49E4@localhost> On 4 Apr 2005 at 15:46, Laurence Glavin wrote: > The Globe's almanac has declared tha since it's cloudy out, the > opposition of Jupiter scheduled for tonight will not take place. Out of sight, out of mind. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Tue Apr 5 01:39:01 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Tue Apr 5 01:39:47 2005 Subject: Globe "correction" References: <20050404204620.A11EB86B0F@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com><006a01c53960$75cf7120$1404fea9@xyz> <000c01c53963$c430b880$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <004001c539a1$cf2bcfc0$1404fea9@xyz> > Well then, Mr Mazzei should be fired. This is the second time in the past > year that a spokesman for a greater Boston AM has told the press that his > station's nighttime facilities were not as good as they are. The first time > it was the (then) GM of WWZN, who insisted in a couple of interviews that > the station's night power, which is actually 50 kW, was only 5 kW. But > Jurkowitz should not be let off the hook completely. According to the > report, he was able to hear both stations after sunset--albeit not very > clearly. Some stations have flea-powered night service....and they are, in effect, daytime stations. (i.e...the flea-power is of no use to anyone.) If he heard the station, but deemed it unlistenable to him, and anyone else he could imagine....the description as a "daytime station" was as close to the truth as anyone would expect. From raccoonradio@myway.com Tue Apr 5 03:57:25 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue Apr 5 03:57:39 2005 Subject: Globe Message-ID: <20050405075725.9C66060467@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>Some stations have flea-powered night service....and they are, in effect, daytime stations. But it's not the same as a station which turns off at sunset. And as for being of no use to anyone, right now it's 4 am here in Beverly and WXKS 1430 is coming in just fine. Not sure where Jurkowitz lives...Again, the article said: "Hours: Sunrise to sunset" which implies it goes off air at sunset. According to 100kW.com: WXKS 1430 Facilities: 5000w/1000w DA-N B WKOX 1200 Facilities: 10000w/1000w DA-N B _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Apr 5 16:58:42 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Apr 5 16:58:42 2005 Subject: WLLH Lowell tx Message-ID: <20050405205842.3F6A286B0F@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mark Watson" >To: bri@bostonradio.org, "Scott Fybush" >Subject: Re: WLLH Lowell tx >Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 22:24:40 -0400 > > I just checked, and the WLLH Lowell transmitter is back on the air > after 3 weeks off. IIRC, Gary Francis posted here recently that he > had called someone at Mega in Boston to tell them about the Lowell > transmitter being off, don't know if that person got the word to > engineering. Guess they don't take transmitter readings anymore. > > Mark Watson Twice I drove by the Lowell tower to assure myself that it was off; this entailed having the Lawrence operation on for a while, and I must say that the sound is rich and clear. Hispanic recordings seem to be less processed that Anglo pop fare; there are acoustical instruments like trumpets (LOTS of trumpets), trombones and acoustcal guitars. This is weird: for all the fame of pop divas, that is FEMALE voices, most vocals seem to be performed by one- or-more males, some in the high tessitura of their range. Anyway, I'm now of the opinion that the Lawrence transmitter in the Cregg Building must be a fairly good piece of late-model equipment. I'm sure that in the past it may have been a Heathkit(tm) unit that went down a lot, but it's possible that the new owners figured that Lawrence was worth the investment in good-sounding equipment, or in the final years of the Anglo Wireless-Talking Machine era, the previous owner spent a buck or two. -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Apr 6 16:45:54 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed Apr 6 16:47:04 2005 Subject: will work for food... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050406164323.02646820@pop.registeredsite.com> I need to stay around Massachusetts over the summer, since I am busy completing my PhD. This means I need to find some (legal) way to generate income-- anybody know of any stations where I could work as a d.j. or board op or newsperson or whatever? I'm open to any ideas anyone on the list has! Contact me off-list if you'd rather. From n1qgs@yahoo.com Thu Apr 7 23:17:10 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Thu Apr 7 23:17:22 2005 Subject: WNDS TV 50 10 PM news cut back to 10 minutes ! Message-ID: <20050408031710.46836.qmail@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I just noticed that the former 30 minute newscast at 10:00pm on WNDS Derry NH channel 50 is now only 10 minutes. It is followed by back to back That 70's Show which seems to run 25 minutes each episode. John B Derry NH From raccoonradio@myway.com Sat Apr 9 03:43:45 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat Apr 9 03:44:06 2005 Subject: Dirt Dogs Red Sox special on WRKO Message-ID: <20050409074345.190A86059B@mprdmxin.myway.com> The Boston Dirt Dogs website (a group of Sox fans) says that they will be doing a special Opening Day preview on Sunday night at 9 pm on WRKO. Why not WEEI? Am guessing 'EEI is carrying the MLB Sunday night broadcast (probably Minnesota vs. Chicago White Sox) so it's shuttled over to the sister station...or is WEEI still carrying the regular Sunday night tilts? I can't remember if those are on Westwood One (probably...) or ESPN. WEEI lost their ESPN affiliation (soon to debut on 890) though maybe they still carry some games. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From rgallison@yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 11:36:40 2005 From: rgallison@yahoo.com (Richard Gallison) Date: Sun Apr 10 21:12:24 2005 Subject: WBME 990AM Brewer Maine Bootleg station??? Message-ID: <20050409153640.51561.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> Did a band scan recently while waiting in a Bangor parking lot. Picked up a station IDing as WBME Brewer Maine and something to do with internet radio. This was on April 6th at about 930 am. No info at all on the FCC database or Google. Any ideas? The station was unreceivable once I was 5 miles northwest of Bangor. This station was on AM 990. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Sun Apr 10 21:30:29 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun Apr 10 21:30:49 2005 Subject: Globe, via BRW: Message-ID: <20050411013029.ACC0760B67@mprdmxin.myway.com> An updated version of Boston Radio Watch (http://www.bostonradiowatch.com) has a couple links to Globe articles from today's paper. Hispanic listeners are getting the brushoff lately, what with 890 soon picking up ESPN, etc. Station Change Tunes out Hispanics http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2005/04/10/station_change_causes_static/ "The switch will punch a hole in Boston's AM radio dial, taking away the only full-time Spanish-language radio station broadcasting out of Boston." Tuning Out Hispanics http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/04/10/tuning_out_hispanics/ The second article is an expanded version of the first. By the way Stu Fink's name is mentioned--part of WRCA 1330. I think he also co-hosts the Sunday Morning Country Oldies on WKLB. Also, one version of the article throws the last name "Masso" out; apparently in the longer version of the article, Jose Masso of WBUR's "Con Salsa" is quoted. In the shorter version, he is identified only by his last name (editing error?) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From revdoug1@verizon.net Sun Apr 10 22:09:02 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Sun Apr 10 22:05:47 2005 Subject: WBME 990AM Brewer Maine Bootleg station??? References: <20050409153640.51561.qmail@web50604.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004c01c53e3b$6f166b60$6501a8c0@pastor2> Interesting. I haven't heard or read a word about this; I would think if there were a new station in the area, the Bangor Daily News would have something to say about it. Could be a pirate. D.D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Gallison" To: Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 11:36 AM Subject: WBME 990AM Brewer Maine Bootleg station??? > Did a band scan recently while waiting in a Bangor > parking lot. Picked up a station IDing as WBME Brewer > Maine and something to do with internet radio. This > was on April 6th at about 930 am. No info at all on > the FCC database or Google. Any ideas? The station was > unreceivable once I was 5 miles northwest of Bangor. > This station was on AM 990. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > From nova828@yahoo.com Mon Apr 11 14:55:43 2005 From: nova828@yahoo.com (Tony Randazzo) Date: Mon Apr 11 14:55:54 2005 Subject: WBME 990AM Brewer Maine Bootleg station??? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050411185543.64636.qmail@web51602.mail.yahoo.com> Im hearing them right now, on April 11 at 2:54 PM. They are playing "Jump into the Fire" by Nillson. Before that they played "Don't Bring me Down" by ELO and "China Grove" by the Doobie Brothers. No ID whatsoever between the songs. The guy is probably at work and re-broadcasting the Classic Rock channel off Music Choice on cable or has a playlist set up on his computer. Ill keep an ear on it. > > Did a band scan recently while waiting in a Bangor > > parking lot. Picked up a station IDing as WBME > Brewer > > Maine and something to do with internet radio. > This > > was on April 6th at about 930 am. No info at all > on > > the FCC database or Google. Any ideas? The station > was > > unreceivable once I was 5 miles northwest of > Bangor. > > This station was on AM 990. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Apr 14 14:49:46 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu Apr 14 15:04:49 2005 Subject: Entercom flips Star 93.7 to Mike Message-ID: <1fbbbced0504141149bdeb621@mail.gmail.com> Entercom flipped WQSX 93.7 Lawrence to "Mike FM", a Jack-clone. "We play everything." Any Muddy Waters, gentlemen? Dropkick Murphys Bob Seger A-ha ("Take on Me") Donna Summer (shades of the old Star) Guns n Roses (ooh, that segues good with dance music) happened at 2 pm today http://www.937mikefm.com/uc/default.asp From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Thu Apr 14 15:06:15 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Thu Apr 14 15:07:06 2005 Subject: Star 93.7 becomes 93.7 Mike FM Message-ID: <021901c54125$0a8aef80$1404fea9@xyz> > Dear 93.7 Listener: > > Because you are one of Star's most valued listeners, we want you to hear > it from us first. As of 2pm today, Star 93.7 becomes 93.7 Mike FM. Our > slogan? WE PLAY EVERYTHING. > > We know you probably have very mixed emotions right now; you loved Star, > and so did we. All we're asking is that you give Mike a chance, because > we think you'll really love what you hear. > > When we say "We play everything," we mean it. Mike will play 2-3 Star > songs per hour, plus tons of hits that you loved growing up in Boston > but haven't heard in a while. In fact, our music library is three to > five times bigger than any other radio station's in Boston. That's a lot > of great songs. And we'll play them randomly, so you'll feel like you > just hit Shuffle on an iPod. You won't even have to buy one. > > You'll hear everything from Donna Summer to Def Leppard, Abba to > Aerosmith, Journey to Janet, Beatles to Bananarama. > > Mike's tone will be sarcastic, fun, and irreverent. That's the attitude > you take on when you don't have to play by any particular set of rules. > Mike is all about the music, with very few interruptions (except for a > few commercials. after all, Mike does have to eat). > > Your Star Insider Rewards points automatically became Mike's Club > Points. We're going to be adding tons of great prizes, so make sure to > keep checking in with us. > > We know you probably have a lot to say, and we want to hear it. So email > us here or call us at 617-266-7827 with > your comments, questions, anything you want us to know. > > On behalf of Star 93.7, thank you for all of your support these past 6 > years. On behalf of 93.7 Mike FM, check us out. We think you'll like > Mike. > > Best, > > Your Friends at 93.7 > > P.S. The Star Style Ball is still on next Thursday, April 21 st at the > Roxy. We hope to see you there! From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Apr 14 15:58:10 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu Apr 14 15:57:53 2005 Subject: Star 93.7 becomes 93.7 Mike FM In-Reply-To: <021901c54125$0a8aef80$1404fea9@xyz> References: <021901c54125$0a8aef80$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050414155648.021634c8@mail.mac.com> At 03:06 PM 4/14/2005, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > > Dear 93.7 Listener: > > > > Because you are one of Star's most valued listeners, we want you to hear > > it from us first. As of 2pm today, Star 93.7 becomes 93.7 Mike FM. Our > > slogan? WE PLAY EVERYTHING. Will they play any Sinatra? Bethoven? They did say "WE PLAY EVERYTHING". . Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Thu Apr 14 16:15:35 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu Apr 14 16:15:37 2005 Subject: FWD: Re: Star 93.7 becomes 93.7 Mike FM Message-ID: <200504141615.AA2802581818@mail.ttlc.net> >As of 2pm today, Star 93.7 becomes 93.7 Mike FM. Our >slogan? WE PLAY EVERYTHING. >We know you probably have very mixed emotions right now; >you loved Star, and so did we. All we're asking is that >you give Mike a chance, because we think you'll really >love what you hear. >You'll hear everything from Donna Summer to Def Leppard, Abba to >Aerosmith, Journey to Janet, Beatles to Bananarama. I don't have mixed emotions, I'm aggravated. Why did they take a good dance-oriented station, blow it up and "Mike" it? They were doing (IMHO) what Kiss used to do so well! Fun, Dance, Party, Fun! I don't wanna hear Def Leppard, Journey & Aerosmith mixed in with my dance music. I might be more amenable to that format if it were new AND didn't take away one of my favorite stations. From markwats@comcast.net Thu Apr 14 16:43:58 2005 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Thu Apr 14 16:44:10 2005 Subject: Entercom flips Star 93.7 to Mike References: <1fbbbced0504141149bdeb621@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004201c54132$b07958c0$6f918318@Mark> Bob Nelson wrote: > Entercom flipped WQSX 93.7 Lawrence to "Mike FM", a Jack-clone. "We > play everything." Any Muddy Waters, gentlemen? > happened at 2 pm today > http://www.937mikefm.com/uc/default.asp Clicking on the above URL will take you to the "Mike FM" website, where you can click a link to hear "Mike FM" streaming on line. Does anyone know if some or all of the "Star" staff have been shown the door? Mark Watson From jjlehmann@comcast.net Thu Apr 14 16:47:55 2005 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Thu Apr 14 16:47:59 2005 Subject: Entercom flips Star 93.7 to Mike In-Reply-To: <004201c54132$b07958c0$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <200504142047.j3EKlv9E033060@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> mms://wmc1.liquidviewer.net/WQSX There seems to be a problem with the stream though, the jingles and liners are somehow getting cut off. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA >-----Original Message----- >From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston- >radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Mark Watson >Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 4:44 PM >To: Bob Nelson; boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >Subject: Re: Entercom flips Star 93.7 to Mike > >Bob Nelson wrote: > > >> Entercom flipped WQSX 93.7 Lawrence to "Mike FM", a Jack-clone. "We >> play everything." Any Muddy Waters, gentlemen? >> happened at 2 pm today >> http://www.937mikefm.com/uc/default.asp > > Clicking on the above URL will take you to the "Mike FM" website, where >you can click a link to hear "Mike FM" streaming on line. > > Does anyone know if some or all of the "Star" staff have been shown the >door? > >Mark Watson > From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Apr 14 16:57:50 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu Apr 14 16:57:30 2005 Subject: AirAmerica will no longer be on Sirius Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050414165738.020deaa8@mail.mac.com> AirAmerica has entered a deal which makes XM the "Official satellite radio station of AirAmerica". As a result, AA will no longer be on Sirius when their contract expires on June 12. XM will have a new channel for Sirius, which will include the full AA lineup, rather than the partial coverage they have now. In my opinion, this is a boneheaded move by AA. I'm sure they're getting some money from XM for doing this, but they are really PO'ing their current listeners on Sirius, many of whom bought Sirius in part to hear AA. It is just the type of monopolistc move that many of the listeners to AA would be oposed to. I wrote to Sirius, because much of the discussion on siriusbackstage.com concerned their not being any official announcement that AA was going off Sirius. Here's part of the reply I received from their CSR: >Dear Larry, > >We regretfully inform you that Air America programming will no longer be >available on SIRIUS, we're thrilled to announce that we are currently >working to develop an exciting new programming lineup for SIRIUS Channel >144. We suggest you visit our website regularly for exciting new >additions to our programming! I don't blame Sirius for this one, I blame AA for agreeing to an exclusive deal. My response to Sirius was to suggest that if they are developing new programming for channel 144, that they include "Lionel". Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From raccoonradio@myway.com Thu Apr 14 16:58:44 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu Apr 14 16:58:52 2005 Subject: Entercom flips Star 93.7 to Mike Message-ID: <20050414205844.5728C5C2EB@mprdmxin.myway.com> Word has it that full-timers were let go... and the station may run jockless for awhile, if not for good... _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Apr 14 16:59:41 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu Apr 14 16:59:42 2005 Subject: 93.7 WMKK call letters? Message-ID: <1fbbbced050414135920f967a2@mail.gmail.com> I guess the Entercom site lists the new calls for 93.7 as WMKK. Isn't that a bit too close to WTKK? WMKI? WMLL? Will they object or has the FCC already approven them? From nostaticatall@comcast.net Thu Apr 14 17:15:43 2005 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Thu Apr 14 17:15:54 2005 Subject: Entercom flips Star 93.7 to Mike In-Reply-To: <20050414205844.5728C5C2EB@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20050414205844.5728C5C2EB@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <370d71653d07987543e31759d7ab24fe@comcast.net> According to the R&R website, the morning team of Ralphie Marino & Karen Blake, along with middayer Mike McGowan were all let go. There was no word on afternooner Diana Steele (Lady D) or night jock Marc Clark but chances are they're gone too. The station is still doing their disco show next week. It will be interesting to see who emcees it. As it is, traffic reporter Frankie Foxx, a Metro Traffic employee voiced the format introduction promo. Maybe she'll bring Donna Summer on stage. I would imagine that the station will at least have a morning show. Many of these "variety" stations are jockless, but most have a morning show, even if it's just a time and temp jock. The station in San Diego that just flipped to the format kept their heritage morning show. A couple of Jacks in Canada have full jock staffs, at least from 6a-7p. I doubt that Entercom is in any hurry to put together an airstaff, but they may have to have some presence in morning drive. --Dave On Apr 14, 2005, at 4:58 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: > Word has it that full-timers were let go... > > and the station may run jockless for awhile, if not for good... From lawyer@attorneyross.com Fri Apr 15 00:31:45 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri Apr 15 00:31:48 2005 Subject: Star 93.7 becomes 93.7 Mike FM In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050414155648.021634c8@mail.mac.com> References: <021901c54125$0a8aef80$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <425F0B71.22886.9A2031@localhost> On 14 Apr 2005 at 15:58, Larry Weil wrote: > Will they play any Sinatra? Bethoven? They did say "WE PLAY > EVERYTHING". . I suppose it's as much "everything" as the World Series is a "world" series. But if they actually are having a larger playlist, with greater variety, this is encouraging. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From scott@fybush.com Fri Apr 15 02:37:19 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri Apr 15 02:37:22 2005 Subject: 93.7 WMKK call letters? In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced050414135920f967a2@mail.gmail.com> References: <1fbbbced050414135920f967a2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050415023504.0504a6b8@gwind.pair.com> At 04:59 PM 4/14/2005, Bob Nelson wrote: >I guess the Entercom site lists the new calls for 93.7 as WMKK. Isn't >that a bit too close to WTKK? WMKI? WMLL? Will they object or has the >FCC already approven them? The FCC doesn't care anymore. They'll assign anyone anything, and it's up to the stations to sort matters out if there's an issue. Free market, deregulation, etc. etc. s From hykker@grolen.com Fri Apr 15 07:27:07 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Apr 15 07:27:25 2005 Subject: Star 93.7 becomes 93.7 Mike FM In-Reply-To: <425F0B71.22886.9A2031@localhost> References: <021901c54125$0a8aef80$1404fea9@xyz> <425F0B71.22886.9A2031@localhost> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050415072222.01b2e560@pop3.grolen.com> A. Joseph Ross wrote: >On 14 Apr 2005 at 15:58, Larry Weil wrote: > > > Will they play any Sinatra? Bethoven? They did say "WE PLAY > > EVERYTHING". . > >I suppose it's as much "everything" as the World Series is a "world" >series. But if they >actually are having a larger playlist, with greater variety, this is >encouraging. I've always wondered why Miss Universe is always from Earth. :-/ Of course the so-called "Jack" format is this year's fad format...wonder if it will have any more legs than Jammin' Oldies or any of the other formats-du-jour that have popped up. Despite the "Ipod on shuffle" hype, it's gonna take a lot of work to make a format that includes Abba, the Beachboys and Britney Spears flow...you can't just jump from song to song randomly...it would sound like a train wreck. From mamros@MIT.EDU Fri Apr 15 10:47:06 2005 From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros) Date: Fri Apr 15 10:47:39 2005 Subject: Entercom flips Star 93.7 to Mike In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:15:43 EDT." <370d71653d07987543e31759d7ab24fe@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200504151447.j3FEl6c7024839@scrubbing-bubbles.mit.edu> >I would imagine that the station will at least have a morning show. >Many of these "variety" stations are jockless, but most have a morning >show, even if it's just a time and temp jock. The station in San Diego >that just flipped to the format kept their heritage morning show. A >couple of Jacks in Canada have full jock staffs, at least from 6a-7p. >I doubt that Entercom is in any hurry to put together an airstaff, but >they may have to have some presence in morning drive. Ironically, WBOS is now trying just the opposite tack. Starting this week, their morning show (6am to 10am) is "all music" (and ads, of course, along with prerecorded liners touting their all-music mornings) and no jocks. The remainder of the weekday, though, they do have an announcer. Same playlist as before, or so it seems. -Shawn Mamros E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Fri Apr 15 13:13:18 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Fri Apr 15 13:13:18 2005 Subject: Entercom flips Star 93.7 to Mike Message-ID: <200504151313.AA3558211830@mail.ttlc.net> Shawn Mamros wrote: >Ironically, WBOS is now trying just the opposite tack. Starting this >week, their morning show (6am to 10am) is "all music" (and ads, of >course, along with prerecorded liners touting their all-music >mornings) and no jocks. The remainder of the weekday, though, they >do have an announcer. Same playlist as before, or so it seems. Wouldn't WBOS have been a much more likely candidate to try the "Jack/Mike/Fred" format? Or are they too inertia-laden to move quickly? From hmadjid@gmail.com Fri Apr 15 14:41:39 2005 From: hmadjid@gmail.com (Hakim Madjid) Date: Fri Apr 15 15:14:14 2005 Subject: AirAmerica will no longer be on Sirius Message-ID: Larry Weil Writes: >AirAmerica has entered a deal which makes XM the "Official satellite radio >station of AirAmerica". As a result, AA will no longer be on Sirius when >their contract expires on June 12. XM will have a new channel for Sirius, >which will include the full AA lineup, rather than the partial coverage >they have now. >In my opinion, this is a boneheaded move by AA. I'm sure they're getting >some money from XM for doing this, but they are really PO'ing their current >listeners on Sirius, many of whom bought Sirius in part to hear AA. It is >just the type of monopolistc move that many of the listeners to AA would be >oposed to. Nothing boneheaded or 'monopolistic' about it, IMHO. Just the free enterprise system at work. No doubt AA management is looking at the still much larger XM subscriber base, and the fact that XM will carry the full AA line up. -- 73, DE Hakim (N1ZFF) From hmadjid@gmail.com Fri Apr 15 14:53:48 2005 From: hmadjid@gmail.com (Hakim Madjid) Date: Fri Apr 15 15:14:15 2005 Subject: ...Havlicek Steals It... Message-ID: "...Greer is putting the ball into play. He gets it out deep... Havlicek steals it. Over to Sam Jones. Havlicek stole the ball! It's all over! Johnny Havlicek stole the ball!"... Today, April 15th, 2005, is the 40th anniversary of that famous Celtics - 76'ers playoff game (7th game NBA Eastern Conference finals), and Johnny Most's famous play by play call. Most's call remains, in all probability, the most famous play by play call ever transmitted before or since over the Boston airwaves. -- 73, DE Hakim (N1ZFF) From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Apr 15 15:16:28 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri Apr 15 15:16:12 2005 Subject: AirAmerica will no longer be on Sirius In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050415151033.0222f4a0@mail.mac.com> At 02:41 PM 4/15/2005, Hakim Madjid wrote: >Nothing boneheaded or 'monopolistic' about it, IMHO. Just the free >enterprise system at work. Well, nothing illegal about it, that's not what I was implying. But just because it's allowed by "free enterprise" doesn't mean it's a smart move, lot's of dumb moves at made in the name of free enterprise. I feel it is a bad move for AirAmerica to abandon and allienate a large part of it's listener base. If they expect a large part of their current listeners on AA to follow them to XM, I don't think that's going to happen. They're too new to pick and choose where they want to be, they need to seek listeners in as many places as possible. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Fri Apr 15 15:32:32 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Fri Apr 15 15:32:31 2005 Subject: AirAmerica will no longer be on Sirius Message-ID: <200504151532.AA1586626858@mail.ttlc.net> Hakim Madjid writes: >Larry Weil Writes: >>AirAmerica has entered a deal which makes XM the "Official >>satellite radio station of AirAmerica". As a result, AA >>will no longer be on Sirius when their contract expires >>on June 12. >>In my opinion, this is a boneheaded move by AA. It is >>just the type of monopolistc move that many of the listeners >>to AA would be opposed to. > >Nothing boneheaded or 'monopolistic' about it, IMHO. Just the free >enterprise system at work. No doubt AA management is looking at the >still much larger XM subscriber base, and the fact that XM will carry >the full AA line up. This points up the real handicap that Satellite Radio labors under: Each station has a different radio. As long as they continue that, IMHO they won't get the traction they need. Probably end up being another VHS/Betamax contest where only one format wins. It also discourages others from enetering the field. A radio that received both XM & Sirius (as well as other future services) would help push the format forward. Of course, I might as well wish for world peace while I'm at it. It will be interesting to see what the "free market" does with this in the next 10 years. WI-MAX just might make it obsolete. From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Apr 15 15:49:15 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri Apr 15 15:48:52 2005 Subject: AirAmerica will no longer be on Sirius In-Reply-To: <200504151532.AA1586626858@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200504151532.AA1586626858@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050415154120.02234b68@mail.mac.com> At 03:32 PM 4/15/2005, rogerkirk wrote: >This points up the real handicap that Satellite Radio labors under: >Each station has a different radio. As long as they continue that, >IMHO they won't get the traction they need. Probably end up being >another VHS/Betamax contest where only one format wins. It also >discourages others from enetering the field. A radio that received >both XM & Sirius (as well as other future services) would help push >the format forward. Of course, I might as well wish for world peace >while I'm at it. It will be interesting to see what the "free market" >does with this in the next 10 years. WI-MAX just might make it obsolete. You make a good point here, although I think you meant system when you used the word station. Not only that, car manufacturers are starting to offer radios that are pre-equipped for sat reception, but only for the system they choose (or pays them the most money!). Thus, if the purchaser of that car wants the other system, and doesn't want to use an add on tuner with a low-fidelity FM modulator, it's necessary to replace the radio with an aftermarket unit, if that's even possible due to the car having an integrated stereo. It's kinda like if Ford only offered AM, and Chevy only offered FM. I believe you are correct, it's still early in the game, and time will tell what happens next. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From ssmyth@psu.edu Fri Apr 15 17:10:10 2005 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri Apr 15 17:10:12 2005 Subject: ...Havlicek Steals It... Message-ID: <200504152110.RAA20007@webmail10.cac.psu.edu> On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:53:48 +0000, Hakim Madjid wrote: > Most's call remains, in all probability, the most famous play by play > call ever transmitted before or since over the Boston airwaves. Doubtful. " ... and it gets through Buckner's legs! [Then in soft, forlorn tone...] And here comes the winning run ... " From hykker@grolen.com Fri Apr 15 20:00:40 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Apr 15 20:01:01 2005 Subject: AirAmerica will no longer be on Sirius In-Reply-To: <200504151532.AA1586626858@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200504151532.AA1586626858@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050415195832.01b2f930@pop3.grolen.com> rogerkirk wrote: >This points up the real handicap that Satellite Radio labors under: >Each station has a different radio. As long as they continue that, >IMHO they won't get the traction they need. Probably end up being >another VHS/Betamax contest where only one format wins. It also >discourages others from enetering the field. A radio that received >both XM & Sirius (as well as other future services) would help push >the format forward. Of course, I might as well wish for world peace >while I'm at it. It will be interesting to see what the "free market" >does with this in the next 10 years. WI-MAX just might make it obsolete. If, of course coverage is any better or more reliable than cellphone coverage. What about dual-mode receivers? I doubt any technical hurdles would be difficult to overcome though the legal ones might be thornier. From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Apr 15 20:28:28 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri Apr 15 20:28:09 2005 Subject: AirAmerica will no longer be on Sirius In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050415195832.01b2f930@pop3.grolen.com> References: <200504151532.AA1586626858@mail.ttlc.net> <6.0.3.0.0.20050415195832.01b2f930@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050415202558.0224fa08@mail.mac.com> At 08:00 PM 4/15/2005, SteveOrdinetz wrote: >What about dual-mode receivers? I doubt any technical hurdles would be >difficult to overcome though the legal ones might be thornier. There are currently Alpine and Kenwood head units available that are compatible with tuners for either service. I don't think that you can connect two tuners to the same head unit though. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Apr 16 00:32:30 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Apr 16 00:33:30 2005 Subject: Star 93.7 becomes 93.7 Mike FM In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050415072222.01b2e560@pop3.grolen.com> References: <425F0B71.22886.9A2031@localhost> Message-ID: <42605D1E.28587.A599D9@localhost> On 15 Apr 2005 at 7:27, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Of course the so-called "Jack" format is this year's fad > format...wonder if it will have any more legs than Jammin' Oldies or > any of the other formats-du-jour that have popped up. Despite the > "Ipod on shuffle" hype, it's gonna take a lot of work to make a format > that includes Abba, the Beachboys and Britney Spears flow...you can't > just jump from song to song randomly...it would sound like a train > wreck. But how does that differ from the WJIB format? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Apr 16 00:32:31 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Apr 16 00:33:38 2005 Subject: 93.7 WMKK call letters? In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050415023504.0504a6b8@gwind.pair.com> References: <1fbbbced050414135920f967a2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42605D1F.17804.A59B17@localhost> On 15 Apr 2005 at 2:37, Scott Fybush wrote: > The FCC doesn't care anymore. They'll assign anyone anything, and it's > up to the stations to sort matters out if there's an issue. Free > market, deregulation, etc. etc. It's a question of whether there is market confusion, producing unfair competition. There was a case a number of years ago in which WBCN tried to enjoin the use of the call letters WBCS. They lost. The court found that there was little chance of anyone confusing the two stations because their formats were so different. If someone were to start a classical music station called WCRV, there might be a different result. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Apr 16 00:32:31 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Apr 16 00:33:40 2005 Subject: AirAmerica will no longer be on Sirius In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050415151033.0222f4a0@mail.mac.com> References: Message-ID: <42605D1F.14730.A59B6C@localhost> On 15 Apr 2005 at 15:16, Larry Weil wrote: > I feel it is a bad move for AirAmerica to abandon and allienate a > large part of it's listener base. If they expect a large part of > their current listeners on AA to follow them to XM, I don't think > that's going to happen. They're too new to pick and choose where they > want to be, they need to seek listeners in as many places as possible. Are there any statistics on how many people actually bought Sirius to listen to Air America? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Apr 16 00:32:31 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Apr 16 00:33:42 2005 Subject: AirAmerica will no longer be on Sirius In-Reply-To: <200504151532.AA1586626858@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <42605D1F.32442.A59BD7@localhost> On 15 Apr 2005 at 15:32, rogerkirk wrote: > This points up the real handicap that Satellite Radio labors under: > Each station has a different radio. As long as they continue that, > IMHO they won't get the traction they need. Probably end up being > another VHS/Betamax contest where only one format wins. It also > discourages others from enetering the field. A radio that received > both XM & Sirius (as well as other future services) would help push > the format forward. Of course, I might as well wish for world peace > while I'm at it. It will be interesting to see what the "free market" > does with this in the next 10 years. WI-MAX just might make it > obsolete. What's WI-MAX? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Apr 16 00:32:31 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Apr 16 00:33:45 2005 Subject: AirAmerica will no longer be on Sirius In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050415154120.02234b68@mail.mac.com> References: <200504151532.AA1586626858@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <42605D1F.30084.A59C75@localhost> On 15 Apr 2005 at 15:49, Larry Weil wrote: > It's kinda like if Ford only offered AM, and Chevy only offered FM. I think of it as if, back in the 1950s, they hadn't come up with 3-speed (and 4-speed) record players, but you had to get a different record player for 78, 45, and 33 1/3 records. And 16 2/3 rpm. Did anyone ever have a record that played at that speed? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Apr 16 00:32:31 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Apr 16 00:33:46 2005 Subject: ...Havlicek Steals It... In-Reply-To: <200504152110.RAA20007@webmail10.cac.psu.edu> Message-ID: <42605D1F.20319.A59D10@localhost> On 15 Apr 2005 at 17:10, Sean Smyth wrote: > " ... and it gets through Buckner's legs! [Then in soft, forlorn > tone...] And here comes the winning run ... " I heard that at the time, Bill Buckner felt so bad about it, he tried to commit suicide. He stood in front of a trolley car, but the trolley went through his legs. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From kc1ih@mac.com Sat Apr 16 01:00:02 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat Apr 16 01:00:08 2005 Subject: AirAmerica will no longer be on Sirius In-Reply-To: <42605D1F.14730.A59B6C@localhost> References: <42605D1F.14730.A59B6C@localhost> Message-ID: >At 12:32 AM -0400 4/16/05, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > >Are there any statistics on how many people actually bought Sirius >to listen to Air America? I doubt it. Although I bough mine several months before AirAmerica debuted, no one asked me why I bought it. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From hmadjid@gmail.com Sat Apr 16 01:13:10 2005 From: hmadjid@gmail.com (Hakim Madjid) Date: Sat Apr 16 01:13:14 2005 Subject: ...Havlicek Steals It... In-Reply-To: <200504152110.RAA20007@webmail10.cac.psu.edu> References: <200504152110.RAA20007@webmail10.cac.psu.edu> Message-ID: On 4/15/05, Sean Smyth wrote: > On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:53:48 +0000, Hakim Madjid wrote: > > Most's call remains, in all probability, the most famous play by play > > call ever transmitted before or since over the Boston airwaves. > > Doubtful. > > " ... and it gets through Buckner's legs! [Then in soft, forlorn tone...] And > here comes the winning run ... " > > Sorry, I'm not sure a failure such as the Buckner episode counts as a great moment in local sports broadcasting. Keep in mind, when "Havlicek stole the ball", the Celtics where the hot team in in this town, they were in the midst of their incredible 8-in-a-row NBA World Championships, a sports dynasty that inculded 11 of 13 World Chapmionships from the mid 50s to the late 60s. It's a record umatched by any other local pro sports franchise. All this was way before the 1967 Red Sox 'Impossible Dream Year', the Stanley Cup - winning 'Big Bad Bruins' of the early 70s. The Pats at the time were just another struggling AFL franchise, not the 3 of 4 Super Bowl winners of today. Go Nittany Lions! 73 de Hakim (N1ZFF) From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sat Apr 16 01:12:10 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sat Apr 16 01:15:29 2005 Subject: AirAmerica will no longer be on Sirius References: <200504151532.AA1586626858@mail.ttlc.net> <42605D1F.30084.A59C75@localhost> Message-ID: <018301c54243$2e676fe0$1404fea9@xyz> > And 16 2/3 rpm. Did anyone ever have a record that played at that speed? Let's see...I remember some Foriegn Language records, that were supposed to teach you how to speak X being 16rpm. Also, I had a record set of Shakepere...and that was at 16rpm. And, dictations pratice for shorthand was at 16rpm. (BTW..Does anyone bother to learn shorthand anymore? My mother learned the "Cregg" system) From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sat Apr 16 09:03:04 2005 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Sat Apr 16 09:03:16 2005 Subject: AirAmerica will no longer be on Sirius In-Reply-To: <42605D1F.30084.A59C75@localhost> References: <200504151532.AA1586626858@mail.ttlc.net> <42605D1F.30084.A59C75@localhost> Message-ID: <42610D08.5050309@cssinc.com> A. Joseph Ross wrote: > >And 16 2/3 rpm. Did anyone ever have a record that played at that speed? > > > As I recall, they were used as transcription disks, not generally for music playback. I've seen some. I also seem to recall that they were a larger diameter. When I was on staff at Hammond Castle many years ago, we had a very old Gates turntable (with what looked like a washing machine motor to drive it) and a bunch of the transciption disks in the vault. I seem to recall that they were 15" or more. Brian Vita From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sat Apr 16 09:06:47 2005 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Sat Apr 16 09:07:00 2005 Subject: AirAmerica will no longer be on Sirius In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050415195832.01b2f930@pop3.grolen.com> References: <200504151532.AA1586626858@mail.ttlc.net> <6.0.3.0.0.20050415195832.01b2f930@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <42610DE7.7040505@cssinc.com> SteveOrdinetz wrote: > rogerkirk wrote: > >> This points up the real handicap that Satellite Radio labors under: >> Each station has a different radio. As long as they continue that, >> IMHO they won't get the traction they need. Probably end up being >> another VHS/Betamax contest where only one format wins. It also >> discourages others from enetering the field. A radio that received >> both XM & Sirius (as well as other future services) would help push >> the format forward. Of course, I might as well wish for world peace >> while I'm at it. It will be interesting to see what the "free >> market" does with this in the next 10 years. WI-MAX just might make >> it obsolete. > > > > If, of course coverage is any better or more reliable than cellphone > coverage. > > What about dual-mode receivers? I doubt any technical hurdles would > be difficult to overcome though the legal ones might be thornier. From what I've read, the FCC has mandated the dual mode receivers. Sirius is pushing it and XM is dragging their feet on the technology. They're supposed to be out in two years or less. It would make since for XM to lag on this as they have a subscriber base that's roughly 3x that of their competitor. Why expose your customers to a potential alternative? In the interest of full-disclosure, I am an XM commercial dealer. Brian Vita From raccoonradio@gmail.com Sat Apr 16 10:06:51 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat Apr 16 10:06:51 2005 Subject: Jack, Mike, and the music schism Message-ID: <1fbbbced050416070676007e9a@mail.gmail.com> I was talking by email with a friend in the radio biz about stations like Jack and Mike, and my comments are below. It seems like pop or oldies stations went through a schism where some went to rock-based stuff while others had dance/disco/R&B. I'm thinking of Eagle 93.7 which was mostly rock-based, though later they had a disco show on Saturday nights. They flipped to Star, which was more dance/ R&B-based, and now Mike, which has both. my comments to my friend: hi--yes, "trainwrecks" of music mixes are OK if it's _your type of music_ (on Jack-like stations). The interesting thing about stations like that, though, is they do play both rock-based cuts and dance/disco/R&B-ish stuff. For example, yesterday I heard Mike 93.7 playing a dance remix of Barry Manilow's "Copacabana" (which I like; I also like rockish cuts). A "classic hits" station like WZLX wouldn't be caught dead playing anything like that. And a station like the _old_ Star 93.7 wouldn't play something like AC-DC's "You Shook Me All Night Long". So since I kinda like both kinds of music, it's interesting to hear both styles. IF it's songs I like. I also heard some dance-based cuts on Mike 93.7 that I wasn't familiar with, and I didn't think were all that catchy, so I changed the station. You gave me some tapes of Classic Gold FM from England; I liked them because they covered a wide range of decades (60s-90s, even a couple of 50s cuts thrown in) and different styles of pop (not to mention some songs that were UK-hits only!) I have heard Mike 93.7 being called "gold-based AC", "hits driven" etc. Their time range is more like 1975-95 for the most part...in fact one person called them "an oldies station for Generation Y", as in people slightly younger than me. Anyway, to some extent Mike FM is interesting but it, too can burn out within a couple years. Also while many people don't like DJs who drone on and on, the _absence_ of DJs (on stations like Mike) has its drawbacks too. They have the liners by an L.A.-based guy (who's heard on a lot of Jack-like stations) which sound funny at first but after awhile they get boring. Sounds like radio programmers are losing listeners to I-pods, car CD decks, satellite radio, and they're scrambling to recover them... You're right, "when dealing with the mass public" it's best to play hits. Even so, you can't please everyone...those who like rock may change the station when something like "I Will Survive" comes on and those who like dance/disco/R&B may change the station when a rock-ish cut comes on, etc. Which is why we got the fragmentation in the first place. From news@southstation.org Sat Apr 16 10:07:23 2005 From: news@southstation.org (Larry Lovering) Date: Sat Apr 16 10:07:35 2005 Subject: AirAmerica will no longer be on Sirius In-Reply-To: <42610D08.5050309@cssinc.com> Message-ID: <20050416140731.TDSG28448.lakermmtao09.cox.net@main> I had a Gates turntable that played at 16 2/3 RPM. Back in the 40s, radio programs often came on 16" records recorded at 16 2/3. They were called "transcriptions," hence the term "transcription table." My BSR and Garrard turntables also had 16 2/3 as a speed choice, back in the 70s. -Larry Lovering The Radio Workshop > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of Brian Vita > Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 9:03 AM > To: A. Joseph Ross > Cc: BRI > Subject: Re: AirAmerica will no longer be on Sirius > > A. Joseph Ross wrote: > > > > >And 16 2/3 rpm. Did anyone ever have a record that played > at that speed? > > > > > > > As I recall, they were used as transcription disks, not > generally for music playback. I've seen some. I also seem > to recall that they were a larger diameter. When I was on > staff at Hammond Castle many years ago, we had a very old > Gates turntable (with what looked like a washing machine > motor to drive it) and a bunch of the transciption disks in > the vault. I seem to recall that they were 15" or more. > > Brian Vita > > From rickkelly@gmail.com Sat Apr 16 13:42:50 2005 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Sat Apr 16 13:42:55 2005 Subject: Jack, Mike, and the music schism In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced050416070676007e9a@mail.gmail.com> References: <1fbbbced050416070676007e9a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <521b7fd105041610424d627482@mail.gmail.com> On 4/16/05, Bob Nelson wrote: >"trainwrecks" of music mixes are OK if it's _your type of > music_ (on Jack-like stations). There was an article in Radio & Records about the "Jack" type stations a few weeks ago, and from what I've heard from on-line listening to a couple of the Jack stations, it's all about "trainwrecks". That is what gives listeners the impression that there is more variety in the music. It's an interesting concept. -- -Rick Kelly www.northeastairchecks.com From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Sat Apr 16 14:24:00 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Sat Apr 16 14:24:08 2005 Subject: AirAmerica will no longer be on Sirius Message-ID: <200504161424.AA3099197742@mail.ttlc.net> "A. Joseph Ross" asked: >And 16 2/3 rpm. Did anyone ever have a record that played at that speed? Those were (IIRC) Talking Books. From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Apr 16 15:17:57 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Apr 16 15:17:37 2005 Subject: 93.7 WMKK call letters? Message-ID: <20050416191757.0ED7186B0F@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "A. Joseph Ross" >To: "Scott Fybush" >Subject: Re: 93.7 WMKK call letters? >Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 00:32:31 -0400 > > On 15 Apr 2005 at 2:37, Scott Fybush wrote: > > > The FCC doesn't care anymore. They'll assign anyone anything, and it's > > up to the stations to sort matters out if there's an issue. Free > > market, deregulation, etc. etc. > > If someone were to start a classical music station called WCRV, > there might be a different > result. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com Don't overlook the fact that there IS in fact a station with the call letters W-H-RB, which for about ten hours a day does broadcast classical music. It's unlikely that W-C-RB's and W-H-RB's audiences are interchangeable, so almost no diary holders confuse them. -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. 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(Yes, it's a real university-- http://www.umillennium.edu.mx/ ) >From: "Luis Atkins Lerggios" >To: >Subject: Greetings from the UMI >Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 21:03:42 -0500 > >Dear Miss >Donna Halper > >We have read some of your very important articles about radio broadcasting >history and we are going to open an FM educational radio station in our >University, which depends from the Millennium Foundation and we both are >seeking to provide ?high-quality education? for low-income families? >childrens. > >This is the reason we are looking for a donation of a FM radio station >complete equipment, it does not matter if it is a used equipment or not, as >long it works, please forgive us to ask you to help us to find a company, a >radio station or a university who may donate us this equipment we need to >help other people with our Distant Education Program through this radio >station. > >The idea is to keep in this part of Mexico; with this Education Program by >radio, a great number of young people because of lack of education, they >only way out is to go illegally to work to the USA. > >We thank you in advance all the help you can give us, that will help us to >help other people. > >Please receive our very best wishes. > >Luis Atkins >University Dean >Torre?n, M?xico. From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Apr 17 00:39:03 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Apr 17 00:39:11 2005 Subject: 93.7 WMKK call letters? In-Reply-To: <20050416191757.0ED7186B0F@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <4261B027.18908.93D12F@localhost> On 16 Apr 2005 at 14:17, Laurence Glavin wrote: > Don't overlook the fact that there IS in fact a station with the > call letters W-H-RB, which for about ten hours a day does broadcast > classical music. It's unlikely that W-C-RB's and W-H-RB's audiences > are interchangeable, so almost no diary holders confuse them. Yes, but it's not as easy to confuse one with the other as it would be with a hypothetical WCRV. Remember, WCLB became WKLB because of suspicion that diary holders were confusing it with WCRB, even though the formats were different. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Sun Apr 17 11:48:13 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Sun Apr 17 11:48:13 2005 Subject: Star 93.7 becomes 93.7 Mike FM - the real reason Message-ID: <200504171148.AA2238447914@mail.ttlc.net> A boilerplate e-mail from Star93.7's Marketing Director reveals the reason for the switch - poor ratings: >Thank you so much for taking the time to write. Please know >that we really value your opinion, and we appreciate your taking >the time to share it with us. >We loved Star 93.7 just as much as you did... and like you, we >will truly miss the talented group of on-air personalities who >gave their all to Star. >Star's listeners were loyal and passionate; unfortunately, there >just weren't enough of them to sustain the format. >We do hope you'll give Mike a chance. We think you'll like what >you hear (and we promise you'll hear EVERYTHING). We will always >welcome your comments. >Best, >Stacy Pollack >Director of Marketing >93.7 Mike FM From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Apr 17 13:27:06 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun Apr 17 13:26:13 2005 Subject: WGBH-FM Employment Opportunity Message-ID: <20050417172706.DA86BE5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> On Sunday mornings when I'm up before 8:00 o'clock, I tune in to the J. S. Bach cantata WGBH-FM plays every week at that time. After this morning's work (Cantata #52, thus a year since they restarted the cycle Robert J. Lurtsema started decades ago), the announcer said something like this: "Since you enjoy listening to WGBH, would you like to WORK for WGBH? We're now hiring account executives to help make local businesses aware of the fine programming on the Arts station." Hmmm..."account executives"; isn't that what time salesmen at COMMERCIAL stations are called? I'm sure that there are people at WBUR-FM that do that type of thing, are THEY called "account executives"? And I wonder if the individuals hired in response to this type of message are really WGBH employees, or like Willy Loman, essentially commission-only representatives? -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Sun Apr 17 13:38:32 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun Apr 17 13:38:41 2005 Subject: Star 93.7 becomes 93.7 Mike FM - the real reason Message-ID: <20050417173832.CEB0E39A1@mprdmxin.myway.com> They're running announcements now with that Fast Freddy guy talking about how listeners were tired of other stations playing the same songs over and over, etc. Thus was Mike born...and he gave a phone number for listeners to call to express their opinions. ("We hope you listen--after all, I gotta eat!") So...is he their only on-air guy besides the voice-guy-from-L.A.? The ratings seemed pretty stable--as in, fairly anemic--so we'll see if they improve. Maybe they want to pick up more people who are into rock/pop (and keep their dance/R&B-base). Surely more than a few listeners will gravitate elsewhere but if they play the occasional "Star"-ish cut, they may at least leave a button on their radio for Mike. --- On Sun 04/17, rogerkirk < rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net > wrote: From: rogerkirk [mailto: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net] To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:48:13 -0400 Subject: Star 93.7 becomes 93.7 Mike FM - the real reason A boilerplate e-mail from Star93.7's Marketing Director reveals the
reason for the switch - poor ratings _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From scott@fybush.com Sun Apr 17 13:43:05 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun Apr 17 13:43:05 2005 Subject: WGBH-FM Employment Opportunity In-Reply-To: <20050417172706.DA86BE5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050417172706.DA86BE5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <1543.66.78.250.144.1113759785.squirrel@webmail4.pair.com> > On Sunday mornings when I'm up before 8:00 o'clock, I tune > in to the J. S. Bach cantata WGBH-FM plays every week at that > time. After this morning's work (Cantata #52, thus a year since they > restarted the cycle Robert J. Lurtsema started decades ago), > the announcer said something like this: "Since you enjoy > listening to WGBH, would you like to WORK for WGBH? > We're now hiring account executives to help make local > businesses aware of the fine programming on the Arts station." > Hmmm..."account executives"; isn't that what time salesmen > at COMMERCIAL stations are called? I'm sure that there > are people at WBUR-FM that do that type of thing, are THEY > called "account executives"? And I wonder > if the individuals hired in response to this type of > message are really WGBH employees, or like Willy Loman, > essentially commission-only representatives? The term "account executive" is in pretty common use these days in public radio. I believe that's what we call ours at WXXI in Rochester. I'm pretty sure ours are at least partially salaried, too. I would imagine they could make more money in commercial radio, but I'm sure the benefits and job security in public radio are better. s From hmadjid@gmail.com Sun Apr 17 14:46:47 2005 From: hmadjid@gmail.com (Hakim Madjid) Date: Sun Apr 17 14:46:53 2005 Subject: AirAmerica will no longer be on Sirius Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:24:00 -0400 From: "rogerkirk" Subject: To: "A. Joseph Ross" Cc: BRI Message-ID: <200504161424.AA3099197742@mail.ttlc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii "A. Joseph Ross" asked: >>And 16 2/3 rpm. Did anyone ever have a record that played at that speed? Roger Kirk wrote: >Those were (IIRC) Talking Books. Yes 'Talking Books' for the blind and otherwise visually impaired were standard size 12-inch discs, but recorded at 16 2/3 or 8 1/3 RPM. These have since been suprceeded by more modern media such as 1/2 speed cassettes, and a special CD format. The ill - fated Chrysler/RCA in-car record player of the mid 1950s - so long as you didn't drive over any sort of bump it worked - used a 7 inch 16 2/3 RPM disc. -- 73, DE Hakim (N1ZFF) From DonKelley@aol.com Sun Apr 17 19:35:53 2005 From: DonKelley@aol.com (DonKelley@aol.com) Date: Sun Apr 17 19:36:11 2005 Subject: Star 93.7 becomes 93.7 Mike FM - the real reason Message-ID: <6b.4363dcbb.2f944cd9@aol.com> Roger is correct, of course. There is only one reason that any station changes format. Poor ratings. It's a simple formula: Great ratings=big revenue=nice facilities+impressive marketing resources+good salaries=great people who stick around. Low ratings=poor billing=not making budget=no marketing=personnel cuts=low morale=watch out for the next hot format coming down the road. From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Apr 18 17:17:26 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon Apr 18 17:16:59 2005 Subject: Can Presque Isle Support A 50KW AM Station? Message-ID: <20050418211726.AC56B86B0F@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> I noticed on the Northern New England board at radio-info.com that WEGP-AM 1390 way, W-A-Y up there in Presque Isle , ME has been authorized to broadcast with an output of 50,000 watts non-directional days. I checked fcc.gov's feature that shows all the stations within a specified distance from a given set of coordinates, and there's a Canadian station on 1400 in Rivieredu Loup 107 miles away, and one on 1380 in Moncton 159 miles away (unless theyve turned in their licenses and decamped to FM). The authorization doesn't show any critical hours restrictions, so several 1390's could get exceptional interference after sunrise and before sunset! But the question remains: the electricity bill for a 50K AM transmitter can get pretty hefty with today's energy prices. Is there enough business for a 50 KW AM station up there? -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Apr 18 18:47:47 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon Apr 18 18:49:09 2005 Subject: Can Presque Isle Support A 50KW AM Station? In-Reply-To: <20050418211726.AC56B86B0F@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050418184508.025e0290@pop.registeredsite.com> At 04:17 PM 4/18/2005 -0500, Laurence Glavin wrote: >,,,But the question remains: >the electricity bill for a 50K AM transmitter can get pretty hefty with >today's >energy prices. Is there enough business for a 50 KW AM station up there? Well, I used to consult WEGP a long time ago, and it's in some rather barren territory-- number one in 18-24 caribou and moose... but all joking aside, even 20 years ago, the AM covered a lot of cities and towns in Northern Maine, and the sales dept was trying to sell it like a regional station. Is there enough business in a bad economy? That I cannot answer, but the owners must think so or they wouldn't have spent the money... From scott@fybush.com Mon Apr 18 19:05:41 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon Apr 18 19:05:41 2005 Subject: Can Presque Isle Support A 50KW AM Station? In-Reply-To: <20050418211726.AC56B86B0F@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050418211726.AC56B86B0F@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <2621.66.78.250.150.1113865541.squirrel@webmail4.pair.com> Riviere-du-Loup and Moncton are both long gone on AM. Not sure if they're still internationally notified, but even so, there's almost no first-adjacent protection across international borders these days, especially when the ground conductivity's as awful as it is up there atop all that rock. s, in Vegas > I noticed on the Northern New England board at radio-info.com that > WEGP-AM > 1390 way, W-A-Y up there in Presque Isle , ME has been authorized to > broadcast > with an output of 50,000 watts non-directional days. I checked fcc.gov's > feature that shows all the stations within a specified distance from a > given > set of coordinates, and there's a Canadian station on 1400 in Rivieredu > Loup > 107 miles away, and one on 1380 in Moncton 159 miles away (unless theyve > turned in their licenses and decamped to FM). The authorization doesn't > show any critical hours restrictions, so several 1390's could get > exceptional > interference after sunrise and before sunset! But the question remains: > the electricity bill for a 50K AM transmitter can get pretty hefty with > today's > energy prices. Is there enough business for a 50 KW AM station up there? > -- > _______________________________________________ > NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites > at once. > http://datingsearch.lycos.com > > > > From fox893@yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 19:24:39 2005 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Mon Apr 18 19:24:44 2005 Subject: Can Presque Isle Support A 50KW AM Station? In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050418232439.51081.qmail@web54608.mail.yahoo.com> > aside, even 20 years ago, the AM covered a lot of > cities and towns in > Northern Maine, and the sales dept was trying to > sell it like a regional > station. Is there enough business in a bad economy? > That I cannot answer, > but the owners must think so or they wouldn't have > spent the money... Right now, you can usually pick them up as far south as just north of houlton. With 50KW they'd cover all of Aroostook with a heckuva signal. I think there's enough business in the area... The citadel cluster up there seems to do well. They'd have the talk radio market cornered, too I believe WVOM is the closest talk radio signal. It's just a matter of running an operation with a low overhead. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide From revdoug1@verizon.net Mon Apr 18 21:02:12 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Mon Apr 18 20:58:49 2005 Subject: Can Presque Isle Support A 50KW AM Station? References: <20050418232439.51081.qmail@web54608.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003e01c5447b$6e051460$6501a8c0@pastor2> What I'm wondering is whether they'll broadcast on 1390. CFNB operated out of Fredericton for 70 years with 50,000 watts on 550 kHz, until the management decided to shut it down and move everything over to the FM side. It covered all of eastern Maine and western N.B.; it could even be picked up in Bangor. The towers, in Harvey, N.B., were taken down 2 years ago, but who's to say the frequency couldn't be allocated to WEGP? Whether on 550, 1390 or something else, WEGP, with an adequate signal, would get the whole Fredericton area market as well as Aroostook. There are plenty of potential listeners out there. I've often wondered why northern New England never had a 50-kw AM station of its own. Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cooper Fox" To: "Donna Halper" ; "Laurence Glavin" ; Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 7:24 PM Subject: Re: Can Presque Isle Support A 50KW AM Station? > > > aside, even 20 years ago, the AM covered a lot of > > cities and towns in > > Northern Maine, and the sales dept was trying to > > sell it like a regional > > station. Is there enough business in a bad economy? > > That I cannot answer, > > but the owners must think so or they wouldn't have > > spent the money... > > Right now, you can usually pick them up as far south > as just north of houlton. With 50KW they'd cover all > of Aroostook with a heckuva signal. I think there's > enough business in the area... The citadel cluster up > there seems to do well. They'd have the talk radio > market cornered, too I believe WVOM is the closest > talk radio signal. It's just a matter of running an > operation with a low overhead. > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! > http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide > From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Mon Apr 18 21:43:16 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Mon Apr 18 21:43:16 2005 Subject: 93.7 Mike-FM Message-ID: <200504182143.AA3264479440@mail.ttlc.net> After listening to :45 of the Mikester, (commuting from Fremont to Chelmsford,) it appears that Mike is really a Classic Rocker in disguise. Whitesnake Spin Doctors Queen E.L.O. Aerosmith Verve Pipe Matchbox 20 Hues Corporation Michael Jackson Not too much "Star" music here. Several liners talk about "Rock Stars" & "Air Guitar." Wonder who's gonna claim the Donna Summer Tickets they're giving away? Also, Amy Hart did a spot for the "Style Ball" coming up. Tickets are still available. Fast Freddie seems to be the only survivor still on the air. From raccoonradio@myway.com Tue Apr 19 03:05:32 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue Apr 19 03:05:37 2005 Subject: 93.7 Mike-FM Message-ID: <20050419070532.2AF2C60490@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>it appears that Mike is really a Classic Rocker in disguise But I have also heard Van McCoy Frankie Valli ("Grease") Donna Summer Eurythmics K.C. and the Sunshine band Gap Band ("You Dropped the Bomb on Me"--ironically, the first song ever played on Star 93.7 after the "1999" stunting --- Just when I thought they'd be ignoring the 60s, they play "Age of Aquarius" and "Touch Me" within minutes of each other. Heavy on 80s and 90s, some 70s and a few 60s cuts. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Apr 19 16:41:00 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Apr 19 16:40:24 2005 Subject: Can Presque Isle Support A 50KW AM Station? Message-ID: <20050419204100.39E3A86B0F@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Doug Drown" >To: "Cooper Fox" , "Donna Halper" , "Laurence Glavin" >lglavin@lycos.com>, boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >Subject: Re: Can Presque Isle Support A 50KW AM Station? >Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:02:12 -0400 > > > I've often wondered why northern New England never had a 50-kw AM station of > its own. > Doug > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cooper Fox" > To: "Donna Halper" ; "Laurence Glavin" > ; > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 7:24 PM > Subject: Re: Can Presque Isle Support A 50KW AM Station? > > > > > > > aside, even 20 years ago, the AM covered a lot of > > > cities and towns in > > > Northern Maine, and the sales dept was trying to > > > sell it like a regional > > > station. Is there enough business in a bad economy? > > > That I cannot answer, > > > but the owners must think so or they wouldn't have > > > spent the money... > > > > Right now, you can usually pick them up as far south > > as just north of houlton. With 50KW they'd cover all > > of Aroostook with a heckuva signal. I think there's > > enough business in the area... The citadel cluster up > > there seems to do well. They'd have the talk radio > > market cornered, too I believe WVOM is the closest > > talk radio signal. It's just a matter of running an > > operation with a low overhead. > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! > > http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide > > When you think about it, for a long time there weren't many in Southern New England: Boston had only three in the days when 1510 was 5K; Hartford had one, and the 50K in Providence later on was VERY directional. Aside from a 1A license like that of WBZ, the advantage a 50K signal had in big cities was the ability to override interference from tall buildings, high-voltage electricity and communications devices like TVs. -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From raccoonradio@gmail.com Thu Apr 21 14:10:48 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu Apr 21 14:10:56 2005 Subject: Globe, Herald on the Mike/Jack phenomenon Message-ID: <1fbbbced0504211110565d7e89@mail.gmail.com> (by the way I heard 93.7 ID as WMKK last night. One of these articles says it is supposed to adopt those calls next week.) Clea Simon, Boston Globe: http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2005/04/21/change_is_in_the_air_for_boston_radio/ excerpt: "What is ''Jack"? Put simply, it's a format that abandons the conventional wisdom that listeners respond to song repetition and station self-promotion. Instead, it substitutes a broad playlist of familiar hits that cross musical genres and programs them with virtually no talk." Dean Johnson, Boston Herald: http://theedge.bostonherald.com/tvNews/view.bg?articleid=79464 "But it's still not as wild as this: the Monkees, Frank Sinatra, the Electric Prunes, Stevie Wonder, Herman's Hermits, Donovan and Neil Diamond. Now that's an exotic blend: Motown, garage punk, bubblegum pop, middle-of-the-road stuff, folk and, well, whatever you want to call what Neil Diamond does. Those artists were in the Top 30 countdown on WBZ-AM (1030) during the first week of December 1966!" From fox893@yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 14:27:42 2005 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Thu Apr 21 14:27:48 2005 Subject: Bar Harbor In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050421182742.49475.qmail@web54607.mail.yahoo.com> Hey All, My wife and I heading to Bar Harbor and I was wondering if there any stations that still have studios in the area. I took a tour of WMDI about 5 years ago(they were doing an alt rock, AAA thing and were ran by Scott Hoag at that point). They're now a repeater for WBach right? Is there anyone else there? Magic 104 North Conway, NH V: (603)356-8870 F: (603)356-8875 ***Commercial Production Demo at: http://cooperfox.voice123.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From scott@fybush.com Fri Apr 22 09:32:07 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri Apr 22 09:32:28 2005 Subject: Bar Harbor In-Reply-To: <20050421182742.49475.qmail@web54607.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050421182742.49475.qmail@web54607.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050422093136.04245570@gwind.pair.com> How about WERU 89.9 over in Blue Hill, one of my favorite noncomm community stations? s > Hey All, > My wife and I heading to Bar Harbor and I was > wondering if there any stations that still have > studios in the area. I took a tour of WMDI about 5 > years ago(they were doing an alt rock, AAA thing and > were ran by Scott Hoag at that point). They're now > a repeater for WBach right? Is there anyone else > there? > > >Magic 104 >North Conway, NH >V: (603)356-8870 >F: (603)356-8875 >***Commercial Production Demo at: >http://cooperfox.voice123.com > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com From kwillcox@wnsh.com Fri Apr 22 13:36:27 2005 From: kwillcox@wnsh.com (Keating Willcox) Date: Fri Apr 22 13:35:57 2005 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20050422133237.02b70f68@mail.comcast.net> in re: Jack or Mike or whomever, The real star in all this is 92.5, a very creative mixture of songs that are related by theme, artist, composer, or something more arcane. Exactly what happened when radio was first on, WNEW in New York and WBCN in Boston. Jocks would make playlists that were very creative and showed music knowledge and a sense of creativity. And a sense that their listeners were important, and that the craft of selecting songs for a playlist is important. Think about it. Why are so many of our listeners switching to Ipod, paying for what they could get for free. I hope Mike or its relatives can infuse our medium with a new standard of creativity. Sincerely, Keating Willcox ~/~ WNSH AM 1570 Beverly 'playing the best music ever recorded' kwillcox@wnsh.com www.wnsh.com 978-921-1570 FAX 978-468-1954 376 Hale Street, Beverly, MA 01915 From mike_ed@msn.com Fri Apr 22 17:25:42 2005 From: mike_ed@msn.com (Mike G) Date: Fri Apr 22 17:25:35 2005 Subject: (no subject) References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050422133237.02b70f68@mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: >From what I understand, so far the reviews of 93.7's switchover to Mike has been less than enthusiastic, which is too bad. For all of those complaining that the don't want their dance music mixed in with their rock music and vice versa, I think they have gotten too used to the fragmentation of too many formats out there in radio land. I can certainly remember circa 1979 and disco was still in very heavy rotation on most top 40 formats, yet here comes " Another Brick In The Wall Part 2 " by Pink Floyd going straight to number 1 and I don't remember anybody complaining about what would be an AOR staple being mixed in with Donna Summer and the like of the day. If anything, the biggest complaint that I have about 93.7 is that they have yet to fully embrace songs other than what they used to play when they were Star 93.7. The day I hear Frank Sinatra, AC/DC, and Duran Duran played back to back and they do it with consistancy, is when the format can work at it's best, IMO. Maybe it's me, but I always thought that as long as the song was good no matter if it was a " dance " song or a " rock " song and the DJ's were entertaining, that it was why we listened to the radio in the first place. ----- Original Message ----- From: Keating Willcox To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 1:36 PM Subject: (no subject) in re: Jack or Mike or whomever, The real star in all this is 92.5, a very creative mixture of songs that are related by theme, artist, composer, or something more arcane. Exactly what happened when radio was first on, WNEW in New York and WBCN in Boston. Jocks would make playlists that were very creative and showed music knowledge and a sense of creativity. And a sense that their listeners were important, and that the craft of selecting songs for a playlist is important. Think about it. Why are so many of our listeners switching to Ipod, paying for what they could get for free. I hope Mike or its relatives can infuse our medium with a new standard of creativity. Sincerely, Keating Willcox ~/~ WNSH AM 1570 Beverly 'playing the best music ever recorded' kwillcox@wnsh.com www.wnsh.com 978-921-1570 FAX 978-468-1954 376 Hale Street, Beverly, MA 01915 From hykker@grolen.com Fri Apr 22 18:08:26 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Apr 22 18:08:52 2005 Subject: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20050422133237.02b70f68@mail.comcast.net> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050422133237.02b70f68@mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050422180225.01b6d120@pop3.grolen.com> Keating Willcox wrote: >in re: Jack or Mike or whomever, > >The real star in all this is 92.5, a very creative mixture of songs that >are related by theme, artist, composer, or something more arcane. Exactly >what happened when radio was first on, WNEW in New York and WBCN in >Boston. Jocks would make playlists that were very creative and showed >music knowledge and a sense of creativity. And a sense that their >listeners were important, and that the craft of selecting songs for a >playlist is important. AAA is fine at what it does, but it is not everybody's cup of tea. IMHO the music selection is just as narrow as any other format, and while there is some interesting stuff, the River (and other AAAs) plays way too much obscure music for my taste. Free-form radio died for a reason...the jocks were (generally) programming for themselves...if the audience happened to like it-fine, but if not-tough. I doubt the jocks at the River get to program what they feel like. >Think about it. Why are so many of our listeners switching to Ipod, paying >for what they could get for free. I hope Mike or its relatives can infuse >our medium with a new standard of creativity. The appeal of Ipods is that you can load it up with nothing but songs you like. If you want to hear nothing but Korn and Britney Spears you can do it. Radio obviously can't do that. From hykker@grolen.com Fri Apr 22 18:12:55 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Apr 22 18:13:20 2005 Subject: (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050422133237.02b70f68@mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050422180842.01ade168@pop3.grolen.com> Mike G wrote: > >From what I understand, so far the reviews of 93.7's switchover to Mike > has been less than enthusiastic, which is too bad. For all of those > complaining that the don't want their dance music mixed in with their > rock music and vice versa, I think they have gotten too used to the > fragmentation of too many formats out there in radio land. I can > certainly remember circa 1979 and disco was still in very heavy rotation > on most top 40 formats, yet here comes " Another Brick In The Wall Part 2 > " by Pink Floyd going straight to number 1 and I don't remember anybody > complaining about what would be an AOR staple being mixed in with Donna > Summer and the like of the day. If anything, the biggest complaint that > I have about 93.7 is that they have yet to fully embrace songs other than > what they used to play when they were Star 93.7. The day I hear Frank > Sinatra, AC/DC, and Duran Duran played back to back and they do it with > consistancy, is when the format can work at it's best, IMO. M! > aybe it's me, but I always thought that as long as the song was good no > matter if it was a " dance " song or a " rock " song and the DJ's were > entertaining, that it was why we listened to the radio in the first place. That was then, this is now. Even by the late 70s audiences were fragmenting...the rock crowd HATED disco, and the people who liked dance music were generally not fond of rock and neither one particularly cared for country. You could get away with it (somewhat) back then, but as tastes grew stratified people gravitated to the stations that played their preferred genre. From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Apr 22 18:19:34 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri Apr 22 18:19:17 2005 Subject: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050422180225.01b6d120@pop3.grolen.com> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050422133237.02b70f68@mail.comcast.net> <6.0.3.0.0.20050422180225.01b6d120@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050422181636.0205de08@mail.mac.com> At 06:08 PM 4/22/2005, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Free-form radio died for a reason. Actually, free-form is alive and well. Well, not over the air, but on satellite. Sirius Disorder channel 24 is quite popular, especially for Vin Scelsa's Idiot's Delight on Sunday nights. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sat Apr 23 01:40:23 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sat Apr 23 01:41:07 2005 Subject: Red Sox Spanish Network? Message-ID: <010101c547c7$010cb080$1404fea9@xyz> Does anyone know where the sales department for the Red Sox radio network is located? Thanks! JP From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sat Apr 23 10:14:37 2005 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Sat Apr 23 10:15:15 2005 Subject: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050422180225.01b6d120@pop3.grolen.com> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050422133237.02b70f68@mail.comcast.net> <6.0.3.0.0.20050422180225.01b6d120@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <426A584D.8050801@cssinc.com> SteveOrdinetz wrote: > > > The appeal of Ipods is that you can load it up with nothing but songs > you like. If you want to hear nothing but Korn and Britney Spears you > can do it. Radio obviously can't do that. Have you thought of copyrighting that format? You might be on to something! Quick, call WBOS! We can call it "Britney's Korn" Brian Vita From elipolo@earthlink.net Sat Apr 23 13:11:07 2005 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sat Apr 23 13:07:56 2005 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: > From "Keating Willcox" > To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 > 13:36:27 -0400 Subject: (no subject) > > in re: Jack or Mike or whomever, > > The real star in all this is 92.5, a very creative mixture of songs that > are related by theme, artist, composer, or something more arcane. Exactly > what happened when radio was first on, WNEW in New York and WBCN in Boston. > Jocks would make playlists that were very creative and showed music > knowledge and a sense of creativity. And a sense that their listeners were > important, and that the craft of selecting songs for a playlist is > important. I've heard that jocks at River 92.5 get to select two songs per hour, and even those two have to be in their master playlist database. Besides those two, the rest of the hour is playlisted song for song. Perhaps whoever does the playlists may do good creative job, but it's not the jocks selecting the tunes. Eli Polonsky From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sat Apr 23 16:23:59 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sat Apr 23 16:33:26 2005 Subject: NPR "Side Channels" Message-ID: <06be01c54843$b2bd8260$1404fea9@xyz> I read recently that NPR will begin offerring "side channels" to their affiliates. Does anyone know if WBUR is planning on using any of them? From kc1ih@mac.com Sat Apr 23 17:39:48 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat Apr 23 17:39:19 2005 Subject: NPR "Side Channels" In-Reply-To: <06be01c54843$b2bd8260$1404fea9@xyz> References: <06be01c54843$b2bd8260$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050423173654.02074b30@mail.mac.com> At 04:23 PM 4/23/2005, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: >I read recently that NPR will begin offerring "side channels" to their >affiliates. Can you explain this, what is meant by a "side channel"? Is this something that would be broadcast on a subcarrier, or perhaps something that is a second channel in a digital mode such as IBOC? It might be helpful if you can provide a link back to where you read this. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From n1qgs@yahoo.com Sat Apr 23 19:14:09 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Sat Apr 23 19:14:13 2005 Subject: Oldies 1250 WKBR Manchester NH In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050423231409.34046.qmail@web30711.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I`guess I missed the changed while I was in Florida. WKBR 1250 AM Manchester NH is now Oldies 1250. Friday, after Woody Woodland at 09:00 I was expecting to hear Mike Gallagher syndicated talk show, but it was oldies instead. Over the weekend, instead of hearing ESPN, I was also hearing the oldies format. John B Derry NH From radiotony@comcast.net Sat Apr 23 19:31:53 2005 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Sat Apr 23 19:32:26 2005 Subject: Oldies 1250 WKBR Manchester NH References: <20050423231409.34046.qmail@web30711.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00d201c5485c$a1f66dc0$6600a8c0@tony> Yeah, we were discussing this too over at WKXL on Friday afternoon. Apparently the change happened after the recent 11 a.m. Fisher Cats game. After the game, oldies came on. Thankfully, they preserved Woody Woodland, who is a really good guy. Best, Tony Tony Schinella News Director/A&E WKXL 1450 Concord, NH http://www.wkxl1450.com http://politizine.blogspot.com ----- Original Message ----- From: John Bolduc To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 7:14 PM Subject: Oldies 1250 WKBR Manchester NH I`guess I missed the changed while I was in Florida. WKBR 1250 AM Manchester NH is now Oldies 1250. Friday, after Woody Woodland at 09:00 I was expecting to hear Mike Gallagher syndicated talk show, but it was oldies instead. Over the weekend, instead of hearing ESPN, I was also hearing the oldies format. John B Derry NH From n1qgs@yahoo.com Sat Apr 23 19:46:06 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Sat Apr 23 19:46:11 2005 Subject: Oldies 1250 WKBR Manchester NH In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050423234606.40374.qmail@web30711.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Thankfully, they preserved Woody Woodland, > who is a really good guy. > > Best, > Tony I actually called into Woody's show Friday morning and won two tickets to the Fisher Cats game. Question was who was the female lead in the baseball film Bull Durham. Hint, given was, one of our favorite left wing females. I listen quite a bit to Woody now, I just can't take Charlie on the left end of the dial! I'd listen to WKXL 1450, but from my home, Newburyport causes havoc with Concord! John B Derry NH From hykker@grolen.com Sat Apr 23 19:53:47 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat Apr 23 19:54:18 2005 Subject: Oldies 1250 WKBR Manchester NH In-Reply-To: <20050423231409.34046.qmail@web30711.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050423231409.34046.qmail@web30711.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050423195122.01b65628@pop3.grolen.com> John Bolduc wrote: >I`guess I missed the changed while I was in Florida. WKBR 1250 AM >Manchester NH is now Oldies 1250. Friday, after Woody Woodland at 09:00 I >was expecting to hear Mike Gallagher syndicated talk show, but it was >oldies instead. Over the weekend, instead of hearing ESPN, I was also >hearing the oldies format. I thought they were still bird-fed country on weekends. There is certainly a hole in the market for oldies with 96.5 going classic rock. Let's hope they do better this time than they did in their last oldies incarnation in the early 90s. From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sun Apr 24 02:40:17 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sun Apr 24 02:40:51 2005 Subject: NPR "Side Channels" References: <06be01c54843$b2bd8260$1404fea9@xyz> <6.2.1.2.2.20050423173654.02074b30@mail.mac.com> Message-ID: <001101c54898$8bbee6e0$1404fea9@xyz> From: "Larry Weil" > > It might be helpful if you can provide a link back to where you read this. > I'm not exactly sure what this is all about....and how it will manifest itself in a local affilliate...and, specifically, WGBH and WBUR in Boston. But here's the link where I first read about it http://www.kurthanson.com/archive/news/042105/index.asp (About 1/3 of the way down the page.) JP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Weil" To: Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 5:39 PM Subject: Re: NPR "Side Channels" > At 04:23 PM 4/23/2005, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > > >I read recently that NPR will begin offerring "side channels" to their > >affiliates. > > Can you explain this, what is meant by a "side channel"? Is this something > that would be broadcast on a subcarrier, or perhaps something that is a > second channel in a digital mode such as IBOC? > > It might be helpful if you can provide a link back to where you read this. > > > Larry Weil > Lake Wobegone, NH > From scott@fybush.com Sun Apr 24 21:18:35 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun Apr 24 21:18:40 2005 Subject: NPR "Side Channels" In-Reply-To: <001101c54898$8bbee6e0$1404fea9@xyz> References: <06be01c54843$b2bd8260$1404fea9@xyz> <6.2.1.2.2.20050423173654.02074b30@mail.mac.com> <001101c54898$8bbee6e0$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050424210913.03ee7a18@gwind.pair.com> >I'm not exactly sure what this is all about....and how it will manifest >itself in a local affilliate...and, specifically, WGBH and WBUR in Boston. > >But here's the link where I first read about it > >http://www.kurthanson.com/archive/news/042105/index.asp > >(About 1/3 of the way down the page.) > >JP Larry guessed right - one of the technologies that's part of the Ibiquity "HD Radio" system allows for the use of part of the digital bandwidth to deliver one or more subchannels that can be programmed with content separate from the main channel audio. NPR has been a leading proponent of the technology, and the idea behind the announcement in Las Vegas is that the network will provide programming that member stations can plug right in as soon as they turn on a subchannel. In some cases, stations already have programming ready to go - for instance, if we ever turn on a subchannel at WXXI-FM here in Rochester (which is 24/7 classical), it will undoubtedly be a simulcast of the news/talk on WXXI 1370, which is hampered by a nighttime DA that misses a big chunk of the market's population. What would WBUR or WGBH do with a subchannel if they had them? That's a more challenging question - it's likely that there'd be at least some local content there, and perhaps we'd see WGBH move some of its music there in favor of more talk on the main channel. Of course, there are some big obstacles yet to be overcome. Even the few HD Radio receivers already on the market can't do a subchannel without a software upgrade, and it's not immediately clear to me that the current radios can be upgraded in the field. So it'll take not only the arrival of receivers, but SECOND GENERATION receivers, to make this happen. (Which means, once again, it's all about content. Here in Rochester, there are a fair number of well-heeled WXXI members who'd think nothing at all about shelling out $250 or $350 or more if we could just deliver them a radio that would let them hear 1370 after dark. There's a ready market for those radios, once they're available.) There's some talk in commercial circles about using subchannels to provide formats that aren't economically viable on the main signal - say, 50s-60s oldies on a WODS subchannel while the main channel heads inexorably for the 70s and 80s - but the commercial stations are far behind the public ones in thinking about this technology so far. s (speaking only for me and not for WXXI...) From wollman@csail.mit.edu Mon Apr 25 11:36:12 2005 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon Apr 25 11:53:12 2005 Subject: (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17005.3692.655412.35002@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I've heard that jocks at River 92.5 get to select two songs per hour, > and even those two have to be in their master playlist database. > Besides those two, the rest of the hour is playlisted song for song. > Perhaps whoever does the playlists may do good creative job, but > it's not the jocks selecting the tunes. And I, for one, would describe the station more as "the pick of a bad lot" than anything else; I like the format, but I don't think they execute it nearly as well as WXPN, WRLT, or WMMM (just to name three). They tend to absolutely blacken a very small set of currents; they play too much 70's crap for my tastes; and they play almost none of the cool new stuff they were playing X years ago (for nearly any value of X). Even their vaunted "Music Hall" seems to sit mostly unused: in 1997 they seemed to be doing something live every time I turned on the radio; I can't remember when was the last time I heard a live performance on the station. Their one redeeming feature is that they aren't processed all to hell. The one consistently listenable daypart, at least for me, is the evening shift, which has settled down as "Acoustic after hours". -GAWollman From billo@shoreham.net Mon Apr 25 15:33:39 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon Apr 25 15:33:42 2005 Subject: WXRV (was: (no subject)) In-Reply-To: <17005.3692.655412.35002@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <17005.3692.655412.35002@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <426D4613.7070802@shoreham.net> Garrett Wollman wrote: >Even their vaunted "Music Hall" seems to sit mostly unused: in >1997 they seemed to be doing something live every time I turned on the >radio; > I don't think it's a coincidence that WXRV started to dive when Joanne Doody (former PD / mid-days) went over to WHOB. She was the driving force behind the music diversity since The River washed over The Wave. Inasmuch as there are those who believe that a solid format is taxi-tested-tough and that a monkey could punch it up and run it, unfortunately, there is still the need for good people in radio. And so it goes. Bill O'Neill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.3 - Release Date: 4/25/2005 From kwillcox@wnsh.com Tue Apr 26 12:08:22 2005 From: kwillcox@wnsh.com (Keating Willcox) Date: Tue Apr 26 12:07:49 2005 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20050426120615.02b7f280@mail.comcast.net> Ratings are in in NYC and tough luck for Don Imus. Any ideas why he is doing worse? Will he get the ax? What about those of us who need to get a life before ten AM? Will we need to switch to something new??? Also, more ominous, John Batchelor is not doing as well as before. 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Here's a link to an article about this matter in the Providence Journal (Please note: you may have to register on the paper's website to access the article, registration is free). http://www.projo.com/westbay/content/projo-20050426-laffey.216d10439.html Mark Watson From fox893@yahoo.com Tue Apr 26 18:00:55 2005 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Tue Apr 26 18:00:58 2005 Subject: Radio problems Message-ID: <20050426220056.38256.qmail@web54604.mail.yahoo.com> Okay, so this is off topic and probably way too general to get help on. But, here goes anyway. I have a 1999 Chevy Malibu and the stock radio has suddenly decided to not pickup lower powered signals. Portland stations(we live approx 50 miles away) that used to be clear now do not come in at all. At first I thought it was atmospheric interference, but I just checked the same stations in my wife's car and they are fine. Does anyone have any ideas as to what the problem could be. Yes, my next step is to have a mechanic look at it. Thanks! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From stephanie@gordsven.com Tue Apr 26 18:19:46 2005 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Tue Apr 26 18:19:46 2005 Subject: Radio problems In-Reply-To: <20050426220056.38256.qmail@web54604.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050426220056.38256.qmail@web54604.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 26 Apr 2005, Cooper Fox wrote: > are fine. Does anyone have any ideas as to what the > problem could be. Yes, my next step is to have a > mechanic look at it. Thanks! My wild guess (semi-sensical) is that you should look at the antenna cable connections at the radio and at the fender where the antenna is. Plugs and connections rust and electrical contact is diminished. -- Stephanie Weil From francini@mac.com Tue Apr 26 18:29:50 2005 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Tue Apr 26 18:29:51 2005 Subject: Radio problems In-Reply-To: <20050426220056.38256.qmail@web54604.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050426220056.38256.qmail@web54604.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <327f5bd81b929f8d4d934338211a0e5b@mac.com> There's two possible problems: a) the antenna and/or its cable has gone bad; b) the radio itself has gone bad. My guess is that it's more likely to be the antenna rather than the radio, especially if this happens on both AM and FM. Does this car have a normal fender-mount whip antenna? If not -- you'll definitely need the dealer to solve the problem. Why? Because if there's no fender-mount antenna, then the antenna is built into the glass of either the windshield or rear window. Not particularly "user-serviceable". My suspicions: corrosion where the windshield antenna connects to the antenna cable, a bad antenna cable, or a broken antenna wire (embedded in the glass). HOWEVER, if has an ordinary whip antenna, then things are a bit easier. You can still have corrosion at the antenna-cable junction or something wrong with the whip itself, or the antenna cable might have gone bad. The good news is that the repair is much simpler and cheaper, since the windshield won't need to be replaced. Hope these help, John Francini On Apr 26, 2005, at 18:00, Cooper Fox wrote: > Okay, so this is off topic and probably way too > general to get help on. But, here goes anyway. I > have a 1999 Chevy Malibu and the stock radio has > suddenly decided to not pickup lower powered signals. > Portland stations(we live approx 50 miles away) that > used to be clear now do not come in at all. At first > I thought it was atmospheric interference, but I just > checked the same stations in my wife's car and they > are fine. Does anyone have any ideas as to what the > problem could be. Yes, my next step is to have a > mechanic look at it. Thanks! > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com From kc1ih@mac.com Tue Apr 26 18:34:19 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue Apr 26 18:33:50 2005 Subject: Radio problems In-Reply-To: <20050426220056.38256.qmail@web54604.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050426220056.38256.qmail@web54604.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050426182941.02049518@mail.mac.com> At 06:00 PM 4/26/2005, Cooper Fox wrote: >Okay, so this is off topic and probably way too >general to get help on. But, here goes anyway. I >have a 1999 Chevy Malibu and the stock radio has >suddenly decided to not pickup lower powered signals. >Portland stations(we live approx 50 miles away) that >used to be clear now do not come in at all. At first >I thought it was atmospheric interference, but I just >checked the same stations in my wife's car and they >are fine. Does anyone have any ideas as to what the >problem could be. Yes, my next step is to have a >mechanic look at it. Thanks! I doubt a mechanic would know what to do. If both the AM and the FM signals are low, I'de suspect the antenna or the antenna connection is bad. It might be as simple as unplugging the antenna lead from the radio, and plugging it back in. Of course, you probably have to pull the radio out of the dash to do this. If the problem is specific to either AM or FM, you probably have a problem with the radio itself. It's probably cheaper and easier to replace the radio with an aftermarket radio than to try to fix it. In either case, a car radio shop would know more than a mechanic. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From radiotony@comcast.net Tue Apr 26 20:08:32 2005 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Tue Apr 26 20:09:44 2005 Subject: Cranston RI Mayor Ordered To End Radio Show References: <005301c54aa8$ea28c9f0$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <004101c54abd$3ff93c20$6600a8c0@tony> Well, actually, this is a pretty reasonable ruling, since it is like getting a free info-mercial every week. Thanks for passing it on. Best, Tony Tony Schinella News Director/A&E WKXL 1450 Concord, NH http://www.wkxl1450.com http://politizine.blogspot.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Watson To: Boston Radio Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 5:42 PM Subject: Cranston RI Mayor Ordered To End Radio Show Cranston RI Mayor Steve Laffey has been ordered by the RI State Board of Elections to end his weekly radio show on WPRO (630 Providence), ruling that the free airtime he receives (he's not receiving any pay from WPRO for his hosting duties) and his name recognition amounts to an in-kind contribution by a corporation to a sitting officeholder. Here's a link to an article about this matter in the Providence Journal (Please note: you may have to register on the paper's website to access the article, registration is free). http://www.projo.com/westbay/content/projo-20050426-laffey.216d10439.html Mark Watson From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Wed Apr 27 02:08:02 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Wed Apr 27 02:08:28 2005 Subject: Talk America Founder Tom Star Dies Message-ID: <01ee01c54aef$815e3080$1404fea9@xyz> http://www.radioandrecords.com/Newsroom/2005_04_25/talkamerica.asp Wasn't Tom Star based in Boston for a time? From hykker@grolen.com Wed Apr 27 07:36:22 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Wed Apr 27 07:36:56 2005 Subject: Talk America Founder Tom Star Dies In-Reply-To: <01ee01c54aef$815e3080$1404fea9@xyz> References: <01ee01c54aef$815e3080$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050427073503.01b522a8@pop3.grolen.com> At 02:08 AM 4/27/2005, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: >http://www.radioandrecords.com/Newsroom/2005_04_25/talkamerica.asp > >Wasn't Tom Star based in Boston for a time? Name sounds familiar. Didn't he do a weeknight sports show in the late 80s called the Sports Final? From radiotony@comcast.net Wed Apr 27 08:44:52 2005 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Wed Apr 27 08:45:42 2005 Subject: Talk America Founder Tom Star Dies References: <01ee01c54aef$815e3080$1404fea9@xyz> <6.0.3.0.0.20050427073503.01b522a8@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <004801c54b26$e88d4520$6600a8c0@tony> Talk America had offices in Canton, and I believe one other South Shore town before moving to Las Vegas. I talked to him once about doing a satellite show - I believe it was in 1994 or 1995 and it seemed like he ran a legit operation. But at $200 an hour for air time and no sponsors, it wasn't going to happen for me. However, later, I heard from some others who weren't happy that Star had played up the network as being on bigger stations than he actually was on. He also counted all the stations that all his leassors were on ... so, if Doug Stephan or Chuck Harder had shows on a station but that station didn't carry any other Talk America programming, he would count them as a Talk America affiliate, that kind of thing. Talk America did get a big business spread in the Boston Globe just before moving to Vegas and they eventually did manage to get enough money to lease or use a second satellite - which then put all the folks who were paying him $300 an hour for air time in competition with themselves. It was a pretty strange operation. I don't know if they are still in operation now or not. Best, Tony Tony Schinella News Director/A&E WKXL 1450 Celebrating Concord & the Capital Region with thoughtful community radio Concord, NH http://www.wkxl1450.com http://politizine.blogspot.com ----- Original Message ----- From: SteveOrdinetz To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:36 AM Subject: Re: Talk America Founder Tom Star Dies At 02:08 AM 4/27/2005, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: >http://www.radioandrecords.com/Newsroom/2005_04_25/talkamerica.asp > >Wasn't Tom Star based in Boston for a time? Name sounds familiar. Didn't he do a weeknight sports show in the late 80s called the Sports Final? From scott@saloway.com Wed Apr 27 10:48:06 2005 From: scott@saloway.com (scott@saloway.com) Date: Wed Apr 27 10:50:02 2005 Subject: Talk America Founder Tom Star Dies Message-ID: <0MKz5u-1DQnrW25Zr-0004UX@mrelay.perfora.net> Talk America was purchased by IDT Corp, the telphone company, in 2001 and moved from Las Vegas to Newark, NJ. Over the following two years, IDT removed most of the brokered and lifestyle programming and moved into more political talk. In 2003, the name was changed to Liberty Broadcasting, to reflect the more conservative attitude of the network. Earlier this year, IDT sold Liberty Broadcasting to BusinessTalkRadio, which rebranded the network as "Lifestyle Talk Radio" and reintroduced much of the lifestyle programming IDT had eliminated. IDT continues to own and operate a talk station in Washington DC, WMET, which was the home for several of the political talkers (Linda Chavez, JD Balart, Shmuley, Geoff Metcalf) that BTR didn't want for its new network. As of today, only Linda Chavez and JD Balart remain. Chuck Harder was taken off Liberty Broadcasting/Lifestyle Talk Radio this past winter by BTR. Doug Stephan remains. Scott (former Talk America board op and Liberty Broadcasting Ops Manager) Scott Saloway General Manager WSIA-FM Broadcasting Live From The College of Staten Island radiotony wrote on 04/27/2005, 02:44:52 PM: > Talk America had offices in Canton, and I believe one other South Shore town > before moving to Las Vegas. > I talked to him once about doing a satellite show - I believe it was in 1994 > or 1995 and it seemed like he ran a legit operation. > But at $200 an hour for air time and no sponsors, it wasn't going to happen > for me. > However, later, I heard from some others who weren't happy that Star had > played up the network as being on bigger stations than he actually was on. > He also counted all the stations that all his leassors were on ... so, if > Doug Stephan or Chuck Harder had shows on a station but that station didn't > carry > any other Talk America programming, he would count them as a Talk America > affiliate, that kind of thing. Talk America did get a big business spread > in the Boston Globe just before moving to Vegas and they eventually did > manage to get enough money to lease or use a second satellite - > which then put all the folks who were paying him $300 an hour for air time > in competition with themselves. It was a pretty strange operation. > I don't know if they are still in operation now or not. > > Best, > Tony > > Tony Schinella > News Director/A&E > WKXL 1450 > Celebrating Concord & the Capital Region > with thoughtful community radio > Concord, NH > http://www.wkxl1450.com > http://politizine.blogspot.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: SteveOrdinetz > To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:36 AM > Subject: Re: Talk America Founder Tom Star Dies > > > At 02:08 AM 4/27/2005, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > > >http://www.radioandrecords.com/Newsroom/2005_04_25/talkamerica.asp > > > >Wasn't Tom Star based in Boston for a time? > > Name sounds familiar. Didn't he do a weeknight sports show in the late 80s > called the Sports Final? From abruzzese@biochem.bumc.bu.edu Wed Apr 27 11:09:14 2005 From: abruzzese@biochem.bumc.bu.edu (Tony Abruzzese) Date: Wed Apr 27 11:09:14 2005 Subject: Talk America Founder Tom Star Dies In-Reply-To: <0MKz5u-1DQnrW25Zr-0004UX@mrelay.perfora.net> References: <0MKz5u-1DQnrW25Zr-0004UX@mrelay.perfora.net> Message-ID: <426FAB1A.7070209@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> Does anyone know what happened to Judy Papparelli? She left WROR for TalkAmerica shortly before they relocated to Nevada. Tony From l_l_lee@yahoo.com Wed Apr 27 08:52:57 2005 From: l_l_lee@yahoo.com (L. Lee) Date: Wed Apr 27 11:42:45 2005 Subject: Dr. Laura Show on WTTT Message-ID: <20050427125257.25074.qmail@web52910.mail.yahoo.com> Anyone know what the situation on the recording of the show from 9-12 on 'TTT. Truly Unlistenable! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From stephanie@gordsven.com Wed Apr 27 13:02:30 2005 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Wed Apr 27 13:02:32 2005 Subject: WSIA Gen Mgr??? In-Reply-To: <0MKz5u-1DQnrW25Zr-0004UX@mrelay.perfora.net> References: <0MKz5u-1DQnrW25Zr-0004UX@mrelay.perfora.net> Message-ID: > Scott Saloway > General Manager > WSIA-FM > Broadcasting Live From The College of Staten Island Wow. Congratulations. What happened to the previous GM, Greg Adamo I think it was? -- Stephanie Weil From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Apr 27 16:26:28 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Apr 27 16:26:32 2005 Subject: Julie Kahn on NECN about Mike; Star stream Message-ID: <1fbbbced05042713263d28ca77@mail.gmail.com> Just caught the tail end of an interview (on NECN) with Entercom's Julie Kahn. She explained why WMKK is going with "Mike"--"the name doesn't really mean anything; it's a mass appeal format rather than a niche one". She also said that there were complaints from "Star" listeners about their music and DJs disappearing and she said starting tomorrow there will be an online stream of "Star" 24/7. If they re-run it, look for the graphic "Radio Revolution" From raccoonradio@gmail.com Wed Apr 27 16:36:23 2005 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Apr 27 16:36:28 2005 Subject: Julie Kahn on NECN about Mike; Star stream In-Reply-To: <1fbbbced05042713263d28ca77@mail.gmail.com> References: <1fbbbced05042713263d28ca77@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced050427133657c5fbd7@mail.gmail.com> You can see streaming video of this interview (for now) at http://www.boston.com/news/necn Look for "Radio Revolution" under "Entertainment" >>Just caught the tail end of an interview (on NECN) with Entercom's Julie Kahn. She explained why WMKK is going with "Mike"--"the name doesn't really mean anything; it's a mass appeal format rather than a niche one". She also said that there were complaints from "Star" listeners about their music and DJs disappearing and she said starting tomorrow there will be an online stream of "Star" 24/7. From billings@suscom-maine.net Wed Apr 27 18:42:24 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Wed Apr 27 18:42:22 2005 Subject: Air America's ratings down in NYC Message-ID: <003201c54b7a$6183fb60$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> National Review reports that Air America's ratings are trending down in New York City: http://www.nationalreview.com/script/printpage.asp?ref=/york/york200504261633.asp What's happening in Boston? Elsewhere? From billings@suscom-maine.net Wed Apr 27 18:46:52 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Wed Apr 27 18:46:50 2005 Subject: WBLM And Mark Persky Say Farewell After 28 years Message-ID: <006701c54b7b$017606e0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> http://wblm.com/WBLM_PressRelease_4-27-05.html They announced on the show this morning that Persky is leaving the station. They claim it is amicable. Persky has been off the station since early in the year. He left right about the time it was decided to add Celeste to the morning show. I assume he has some kind of non-compete that will keep him off the air for some time. He would be a natural additional to the morning show on Frank -- taking him back to 107.5 where WBLM used to be. From kc1ih@mac.com Wed Apr 27 19:10:20 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Wed Apr 27 19:09:51 2005 Subject: Air America's ratings down in NYC In-Reply-To: <003201c54b7a$6183fb60$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <003201c54b7a$6183fb60$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050427190831.02040fc0@mail.mac.com> At 06:42 PM 4/27/2005, Daniel Billings wrote: >National Review reports that Air America's ratings are trending down in New >York City: And how does that compare to other talk stations and programs? I've heard that all political talk is down since the last election. >What's happening in Boston? I think they are too new here to see any trends. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From billings@suscom-maine.net Wed Apr 27 19:10:55 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Wed Apr 27 19:10:55 2005 Subject: Air America's ratings down in NYC References: <003201c54b7a$6183fb60$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <6.2.1.2.2.20050427190831.02040fc0@mail.mac.com> Message-ID: <009901c54b7e$5d741ba0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Weil" To: "Daniel Billings" ; Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:10 PM Subject: Re: Air America's ratings down in NYC > And how does that compare to other talk stations and programs? I've heard > that all political talk is down since the last election. The story indicates the ratings in New York are down more than the competition. From billings@suscom-maine.net Wed Apr 27 19:41:04 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Wed Apr 27 19:41:06 2005 Subject: Air America References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050427193043.0262d790@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <00a101c54b82$941a2420$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> The things that stood out to me was not the comparisons to other stations, but Air America's numbers being down from earlier ratings periods. That would not be explained by signal problems. From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Apr 27 19:38:16 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed Apr 27 19:45:33 2005 Subject: Air America In-Reply-To: <006701c54b7b$017606e0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050427193043.0262d790@pop.registeredsite.com> Not trying to defend AA, but National Review is a very conservative site which conveniently neglected to report that in several major dayparts, Limbaugh's numbers were down and so were Laura Ingraham's-- and that AA's were up in those dayparts. That's the way the NY newspapers reported the story, including the conservative newspapers...I don't mind a right-wing critique of AA, which believe me, does some things that I wish they wouldn't do-- but the glee with which the National Review reporter discussed what he termed the failure of AA made me suspect he is not exactly an unbiased reporter. AA has massive signal problems in NY, as they do in Boston, so it's still kind of like comparing apples and oranges to compare a 50,000 watt flame-thrower with suburban WLIB in NY (I used to work there-- I'm very familiar with the areas they cover, and the ones they don't). That having been said, I spoke to several people at the Boston AA affiliate today and they are still trying to find a way to increase their signal or to at least cover more of the market-- it is not looking like that will happen any time soon, unfortunately. (And I say 'unfortunately' because I really thing it's a good thing to have BOTH sides of current issues available for listeners to think about and discuss-- even though AA is having growing pains, it serves an important purpose and I hope it does become successful.) From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Apr 27 19:53:21 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed Apr 27 19:54:34 2005 Subject: Air America In-Reply-To: <00a101c54b82$941a2420$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050427193043.0262d790@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050427195156.02683a98@pop.registeredsite.com> At 07:41 PM 4/27/2005 -0400, you wrote: >The things that stood out to me was not the comparisons to other stations, >but Air America's numbers being down from earlier ratings periods. That >would not be explained by signal problems. Yes it would-- the 12+ numbers were what the National Review guy used, based on what I saw. Individual dayparts were NOT down. But in either case, I agree that AA hasn't got huge numbers yet. They have a loyal and devoted niche audience, and whether it grows will determine whether AA survives. From scott@fybush.com Wed Apr 27 20:23:54 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed Apr 27 20:23:36 2005 Subject: Air America In-Reply-To: <00a101c54b82$941a2420$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050427193043.0262d790@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050427195752.02a7c948@gwind.pair.com> At 07:41 PM 4/27/2005 -0400, Daniel Billings wrote: >The things that stood out to me was not the comparisons to other stations, >but Air America's numbers being down from earlier ratings periods. That >would not be explained by signal problems. I haven't - full disclosure - looked at the NRO article yet. But I've seen the NY numbers, including some demo breakdowns that aren't released in the 12+ numbers that the media get. Here's what I think, at least where NYC is concerned: 1. It is, for the most part, too soon to issue any sort of definitive verdict on whether AA is a "success" or a "failure." What most radio people want to see, as both Donna and Dan know full well, are not book-to-book (or, worse, trend-to-trend) numbers but year-over-year numbers. AA has only been on the air for a year, and that means that the winter books that we're looking at now are the very first winter numbers the format has ever posted. I vividly remember a time when Limbaugh, Savage, et al were posting mediocre ratings on less than full market signals. When I came to Boston in early 1990, Rush had a weekend-only "best of" clearance on WHDH, and I think he may have been on one of the Providence AMs. It took at least a year after that for him to get weekdays on WHDH, and later WRKO. 2. Even if not quite a full year of ratings were enough to judge by under ordinary circumstances, it's been an extraordinary year for talk radio in general. AA had some pretty severe teething pains at the start, as we're all well aware, and almost immediately plunged into one of the most divisive political campaigns in recent memory. Here's where things get interesting, at least in my reading of the NYC numbers. WABC showed a very distinct ratings spike in the months leading up to November, followed by a very real levelling-off right afterward. So did many stations around the country with similar programming, like WHAM here in Rochester. WLIB, interestingly, showed no such spike. That meant it lost out on some of the election-driven gains that the WHAMs and WABCs showed, but might it also suggest a more stable and loyal audience? Again, too soon to say, and I'm not comfortable speculating on the basis of the numbers currently available. 3. There seems to be an expectation that AA will do especially well in "blue" markets like NYC and Boston. I'm not at all sure that I agree with that. If you're a left-leaning listener in a city where most of the people you meet with agree with you, are you especially inclined to want to spend much time with a station that pretty much tells you what you already know? You'll draw some audience that way, of course - but the message I read into the "successes" liberal talk has shown so far (again, with the caveat that it's really way too soon to tell) is that it may do better in places like San Diego, where left-leaning listeners exist in measurable numbers (the city of SD is actually majority Democratic, or so I'm told by my cousins there) but are outnumbered by a vocal conservative majority in the market. For those listeners, the "progressive talk" station can theoretically draw some pretty intense loyalty in a way that would be less likely in New York or Boston, where left-leaning viewpoints are a dime a dozen. The best example I can cite for my theory is actually the flip side of this argument: look at KSFO in San Francisco, a bastion of hard-line conservative talk in a market that's anything but. ABC took a big risk when they launched the format on KSFO in the mid-nineties, but it's been a very consistent success, launching Savage into national syndication before he ended up across town at KNEW. ABC has a great thing going in San Francisco - the conservatives have KSFO, and that frees up KGO to be that rarest of breeds, a moderate talk station. Couple in to that two really good signals, and you've got by far the best AM pair in town. 4. The signal, the signal, the signal. I don't think WLIB will ever post more than a fraction of the numbers WABC gets, simply because it can't reach the audience WABC does. Just as Rush moved from rimshot daytimers (here in Rochester, he started on WYSL, then a 500-watt daytimer on 1030 25 miles south of town) to WHAM and WRKO, progressive talk will move up the signal chain *if* it succeeds as more than just a niche. But... 5. It's still too soon to tell. Did I say that already? s From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Thu Apr 28 01:36:26 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Thu Apr 28 01:39:45 2005 Subject: WBLM And Mark Persky Say Farewell After 28 years References: <006701c54b7b$017606e0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <041f01c54bb4$a93ef880$1404fea9@xyz> From: "Daniel Billings" >> WBLM And Mark Persky Say Farewell After 28 years > http://wblm.com/WBLM_PressRelease_4-27-05.html Just wondering out loud.... What kind of money does a 28 year veteran make in a market like Portland? Could this be partly cost-cutting. From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Thu Apr 28 01:38:49 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Thu Apr 28 01:39:47 2005 Subject: Air America References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050427193043.0262d790@pop.registeredsite.com> <00a101c54b82$941a2420$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <042001c54bb4$a9bc17c0$1404fea9@xyz> From: "Daniel Billings" > The things that stood out to me was not the comparisons to other stations, > but Air America's numbers being down from earlier ratings periods. That > would not be explained by signal problems. After all that huge publicity they got from the kick-off.... I would assume that the "buzz", and therefore ratings would back off somewhat. From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Thu Apr 28 05:32:27 2005 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (chuckigo@maine.rr.com) Date: Thu Apr 28 05:32:27 2005 Subject: WBLM And Mark Persky Say Farewell After 28 years Message-ID: <209c1120947c.20947c209c11@nyroc.rr.com> > From: "Daniel Billings" > > >> WBLM And Mark Persky Say Farewell After 28 years Joe P asked: > Just wondering out loud.... > > What kind of money does a 28 year veteran make in a market like > Portland? > Could this be partly cost-cutting. > doubt it's cost-cutting at all... the answer to your question: a 28 year veteran makes more than someone just starting out, but not enough to be a financial burden on any station in this market. a union- minimum airshift in Boston, in most cases, pays more. - -Chuck Igo From hykker@grolen.com Thu Apr 28 07:35:31 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (hykker@grolen.com) Date: Thu Apr 28 07:28:41 2005 Subject: Air America In-Reply-To: <042001c54bb4$a9bc17c0$1404fea9@xyz> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050427193043.0262d790@pop.registeredsite.com> <00a101c54b82$941a2420$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <042001c54bb4$a9bc17c0$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <3058.206.15.138.37.1114688131.squirrel@206.15.138.37> > > After all that huge publicity they got from the kick-off.... > > I would assume that the "buzz", and therefore ratings would back off > somewhat. > My suspicion as well. There was SO much hype and publicity that no matter how good their programming it likely wouldn't have lived up to the hype. And once people discovered it was mainly the same ol', only the opposite end of the political spectrum a lot of listeners drifted away. From dwcole@comcast.net Thu Apr 28 10:23:58 2005 From: dwcole@comcast.net (Dan C.) Date: Thu Apr 28 10:24:43 2005 Subject: WBLM And Mark Persky Say Farewell After 28 years References: <006701c54b7b$017606e0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <002101c54bfd$ead7d6b0$61f29318@HP310n> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Billings" > They announced on the show this morning that Persky is leaving the > station. >> I assume he has some kind of non-compete that will keep him off the air >> for > some time. Under Maine law there is no such thing as a non-compete. Assuming he's no longer under contract, I imagine if he wanted to he could show up tomorrow on the air elsewhere. Dan C. From nostaticatall@comcast.net Thu Apr 28 11:59:58 2005 From: nostaticatall@comcast.net (David Tomm) Date: Thu Apr 28 12:00:12 2005 Subject: WBLM And Mark Persky Say Farewell After 28 years In-Reply-To: <002101c54bfd$ead7d6b0$61f29318@HP310n> References: <006701c54b7b$017606e0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <002101c54bfd$ead7d6b0$61f29318@HP310n> Message-ID: I saw on radio-info that Frank-FM recently let go one of their morning show people recently. With Persky leaving WBLM, is Frank his next stop? It seems a bit of a coincidence that he leaves WBLM (presuming that his contract ran out) and Frank lays off their morning show right around the same time. Hmmmmmmm....... On Apr 28, 2005, at 10:23 AM, Dan C. wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Billings" > >> They announced on the show this morning that Persky is leaving the >> station. >>> I assume he has some kind of non-compete that will keep him off the >>> air for >> some time. > > > Under Maine law there is no such thing as a non-compete. Assuming > he's no longer under contract, I imagine if he wanted to he could show > up tomorrow on the air elsewhere. > > Dan C. > From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Apr 28 13:20:56 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (dlh@donnahalper.com) Date: Thu Apr 28 13:20:53 2005 Subject: Air America Message-ID: <200504281720.j3SHKugV024425@mail9.atl.registeredsite.com> Joe wrote-- > I would assume that the "buzz", and therefore ratings >would back off > somewhat. According to today's Washington Post, it was a down book for ALL talk stations-- one right wing talker in Washington only got a .05, and even Limbaugh was down... Media critic Paul Farhi writes: "What a difference an election makes. No, we're not talking about the fortunes of a rich and powerful democracy. This is about talk radio. And even in the nation's capital, post-election, people seem to have had their fill of politically oriented talk on the airwaves. The latest quarterly audience ratings spell it out: Local talk stations -- both on the right and on the left -- saw their audiences dwindle during the January-March period, according to Arbitron Inc..." From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Apr 28 15:01:44 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Apr 28 15:01:49 2005 Subject: Minot,, Ohio? Message-ID: <20050428190144.202CBE5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> Remember the train derailment in Minot, ND? Poisonous gases were released into the atmosphere in that Great Plains city, and a few days later the lack of information about that event over local radio became a major bone of contention. Bill Moyers' "NOW" on PBS led the charge, and it became the subject of several radio-oriented websites (including this one). Now something similar has happened near a MAJOR market in Ohio! Read all about it at: http://www.audiographics.com/agd/s2042705.htm -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From sid@wrko.com Thu Apr 28 15:57:11 2005 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Thu Apr 28 15:57:24 2005 Subject: Minot,, Ohio? Message-ID: >>Remember the train derailment in Minot, ND? Poisonous gases were released into the atmosphere in that Great Plains city, and a few days later the lack of information about that event over local radio became a major bone of contention. Bill Moyers' "NOW" on PBS led the charge, and it became the subject of several radio-oriented websites (including this one). Now something similar has happened near a MAJOR market in Ohio! Read all about it at: http://www.audiographics.com/agd/s2042705.htm<< The typical, one-sided response, which can be better described as "I didn't hear what I want, so it's just wrong." No follow-up, no questions asked of anyone at WTAM, no polling of other stations and how they did/didn't respond to the storm. It sells papers, but it's hardly journalism and it's certainly not, to coin a phrase, "fair and balanced." Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From rogerkola@aol.com Thu Apr 28 19:08:52 2005 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Thu Apr 28 19:08:38 2005 Subject: Minot,, Ohio? References: <20050428190144.202CBE5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <005901c54c47$408e8c40$0200a8c0@Tanguray> I wonder if the author ever tried to call the electric company for information when the power was out to a quarter of a million people, on a Sunday night no less? Even the local Police have trouble getting through on their "priority numbers" ....during an IN season snowstorm...and what do you get told by the Electric Company when you get through?... 1) a couple of hours 2) by morning 3) we are working as hard as we can 4) we get there when we get there This is dog bites man....think I need another example of a deficiency in local radio.... Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:01 PM Subject: Minot,, Ohio? > Remember the train derailment in Minot, ND? Poisonous gases > were released into the atmosphere in that Great Plains city, > and a few days later the lack of information about that event > over local radio became a major bone of contention. Bill > Moyers' "NOW" on PBS led the charge, and it became the subject > of several radio-oriented websites (including this one). > Now something similar has happened near a MAJOR market > in Ohio! Read all about it at: > > http://www.audiographics.com/agd/s2042705.htm > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. > http://datingsearch.lycos.com > > > From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Apr 28 19:10:13 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Thu Apr 28 19:10:18 2005 Subject: WBLM And Mark Persky Say Farewell After 28 years References: <209c1120947c.20947c209c11@nyroc.rr.com> Message-ID: <001401c54c47$6f10ad00$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Both sides nice things in today's paper. Read the article at: http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/local/050428persky.shtml From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Apr 28 19:11:30 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Thu Apr 28 19:11:28 2005 Subject: WGME Weather Guy gives up TV for teaching Message-ID: <001801c54c47$9c944980$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> WGME's Dave Santoro is giving up TV to become a middle school teacher. Why? So he can spend more time with his family! Really! Read for yourself at: http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/local/050428santoro.shtml From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Apr 28 19:30:05 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Thu Apr 28 19:31:11 2005 Subject: WBLM And Mark Persky Say Farewell After 28 years References: <006701c54b7b$017606e0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <002101c54bfd$ead7d6b0$61f29318@HP310n> Message-ID: <002c01c54c4a$35781440$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan C." To: "Daniel Billings" ; Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: Re: WBLM And Mark Persky Say Farewell After 28 years > Under Maine law there is no such thing as a non-compete. Assuming he's no > longer under contract, I imagine if he wanted to he could show up tomorrow > on the air elsewhere. I was assuming that he was still under contract. The article in today's paper also gives that impression. My guess is that he is getting paid some amount to set out for a certain period. From Rogerkola@aol.com Thu Apr 28 21:32:59 2005 From: Rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Thu Apr 28 21:32:59 2005 Subject: WGME Weather Guy gives up TV for teaching References: <001801c54c47$9c944980$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <004501c54c5b$62b26300$0300a8c0@Charlie> My 6th Grade Math teacher wife has her alarm go off at 4a, she leaves for school at 7a, gets home at 7p and passes out before 9p Luckily the kids are out of the house and I'm the only one who needs more time to be spent with....maybe on weekends.... Roger WESX 1230 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Billings" To: Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:11 PM Subject: WGME Weather Guy gives up TV for teaching > WGME's Dave Santoro is giving up TV to become a middle school teacher. > > Why? So he can spend more time with his family! > > Really! > > Read for yourself at: > > http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/local/050428santoro.shtml > > > From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Apr 29 14:18:09 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri Apr 29 14:18:16 2005 Subject: Minot,, Ohio? Message-ID: <20050429181809.EAF7B86B10@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Roger Kolakowski" >To: "Laurence Glavin" , boston-radio->interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >Subject: Re: Minot,, Ohio? >Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:08:52 -0400 > > I wonder if the author ever tried to call the electric company for > information when the power was out to a quarter of a million people, on a > Sunday night no less? > > Even the local Police have trouble getting through on their "priority > numbers" ....during an IN season snowstorm...and what do you get told by the > Electric Company when you get through?... > > 1) a couple of hours > 2) by morning > 3) we are working as hard as we can > 4) we get there when we get there > > This is dog bites man....think I need another example of a deficiency in > local radio.... > > Roger > WA1KAT Just asking: shouldn't major media outlets have special numbers to reach utilities, just as they may have to contact law enforcement officers? I remember that on one occasion, when a blizzard knocked out (then) Continental Cablevision, and WCCM-AM (then at 800) carried non-stop local coverage, I called the radio station about deducting that day's NON-service, and later Bruce AHnold announced that Continental would do just that. Calling Continental directly yielded no response, so WCCM must have had a private number. -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From kwillcox@wnsh.com Fri Apr 29 21:22:51 2005 From: kwillcox@wnsh.com (Keating Willcox) Date: Fri Apr 29 21:19:31 2005 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20050429212125.02c40d78@mail.comcast.net> Well, I guess not everyone likes the new format..... UPDATE: We at SaveStar.org have been overwhelmed by the love and support from the listeners. Please continue to gather signatures and write letters to the Entercom folks--this is only the beginning! TELL MIKE TO TAKE A HIKE!!! * CLICK to Save Star Sincerely, Keating Willcox ~/~ WNSH AM 1570 Beverly 'playing the best music ever recorded' kwillcox@wnsh.com www.wnsh.com 978-921-1570 FAX 978-468-1954 376 Hale Street, Beverly, MA 01915 From hykker@grolen.com Sat Apr 30 08:48:49 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (hykker@grolen.com) Date: Sat Apr 30 08:42:27 2005 Subject: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20050429212125.02c40d78@mail.comcast.net> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050429212125.02c40d78@mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <3084.206.15.139.187.1114865329.squirrel@206.15.139.187> Keating Willcox wrote... > Well, I guess not everyone likes the new format..... > > UPDATE: We at SaveStar.org have been > overwhelmed by the love and support from the > listeners. Please continue to gather signatures and > write letters to the Entercom folks--this is only the > beginning! > > TELL MIKE TO TAKE A HIKE!!! > > * CLICK to Save Star Some people really have too much free time. While I don't find "Mike" to be anything I can listen to for more than 15 min. or so and have my doubts that this format has any legs, I have even more doubts that an on-line campaign to bring back "Star" is gonna have any affect on Entercom's decision to dump it. From kwillcox@wnsh.com Sat Apr 30 12:50:40 2005 From: kwillcox@wnsh.com (Keating Willcox) Date: Sat Apr 30 12:47:17 2005 Subject: Boston-Radio-Interest Digest, Vol 9, Issue 129 In-Reply-To: <200504301601.j3UG02M8079777@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> References: <200504301601.j3UG02M8079777@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20050430124940.02bb7ea8@mail.comcast.net> At 12:01 PM 4/30/2005, you wrote: >Please continue to gather signatures and >write letters to the Entercom folks--this is only the >beginning! How about the star trek fans website, where they are raising money to pay for new episodes of Star Trek, and now have pledges in excess of 1 million dollars.....talk about getting a life Sincerely, Keating Willcox ~/~ WNSH AM 1570 Beverly 'playing the best music ever recorded' kwillcox@wnsh.com www.wnsh.com 978-921-1570 FAX 978-468-1954 376 Hale Street, Beverly, MA 01915