From lawyer@attorneyross.com Tue Jun 1 00:01:00 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue Jun 1 00:00:41 2004 Subject: WATD coverage Message-ID: <40BBC73C.21763.9E3CFF@localhost> I've written before about how I can get WATD on my car radio in Brookline (with a few dropout spots here and there), but can't get it on any of my home radios except my livingroom stereo, and then not very well. I was particularly surprised Saturday, while driving to Swampscott, to see just how far north the WATD signal reached, at least in my car. It disappeared while I was in the new Central Artery tunnel, and was spotty in the Callahan Tunnel, but it was loud and clear all the way to Swampscott. Some day when I'm going still farther north, I'll try and see just how far I'll need to go before it starts to get hard to listen. That makes it all the more strange that I can't get them on my home radios. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From ssmyth@psu.edu Tue Jun 1 08:03:31 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Tue Jun 1 08:03:35 2004 Subject: WATD coverage In-Reply-To: <40BBC73C.21763.9E3CFF@localhost> Message-ID: <000001c447d0$75890460$b5433c18@Sean> Mr. Ross writes: > I was particularly surprised Saturday, while driving to > Swampscott, to see just how far north > the WATD signal reached, at least in my car. It disappeared > while I was in the new Central > Artery tunnel, and was spotty in the Callahan Tunnel, but it > was loud and clear all the way to > Swampscott. Some day when I'm going still farther north, > I'll try and see just how far I'll need > to go before it starts to get hard to listen. > > That makes it all the more strange that I can't get them on > my home radios. Not strange at all. First, in Brookline you are heading toward WSRS (96.1) -- not much closer, but closer nonetheless. Second, you could be experiencing some overload off the Pru Tower (I do here in Southie, a good 2-3 miles away from the Pru), stuff a car radio is more selective about tuning out. Third, the "as the crow flies" distance between Marshfield and Swampscott (remember, they're not far across the water from each other) is not as much as you might think. Marshfield to Boston: 23 miles Marshfield to Swampscott: 28 miles Source: www.indo.com/distance (thanks to Mike Fitzpatrick for giving me this link eons ago) From madprof@ix.netcom.com Tue Jun 1 08:31:39 2004 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (madprof) Date: Tue Jun 1 08:28:38 2004 Subject: WATD coverage Message-ID: <019601c447d4$63fbc620$b09ee541@p133> presuming you mean the FM 95.9..... suspicion is that there are large / metal buildings either in the path to your home, or causing reflections which cancel some signal strength by reverse phasing (due to difference of signal path of reflections). WATD-FM is a class A station, and the distance to Brookline would predict usable signal strength. Note that a side channel is WZID 95.7 Manchester NH, class B, so could also reduce your home reception, especialy if reflections. Swampscott? that surprizes me..... bet Ed Perry (owner of WATD) would love to know this! I'm forwarding your report to him. Bob / MadProf > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:01 AM > Subject: WATD coverage > > > > I've written before about how I can get WATD on my car radio in Brookline > (with a few dropout > > spots here and there), but can't get it on any of my home radios except my > livingroom > > stereo, and then not very well. From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Tue Jun 1 10:15:36 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue Jun 1 10:15:41 2004 Subject: WWZN / Celtics - Bill Griffith Column In-Reply-To: <009901c44752$5b82b6c0$1404fea9@xyz> References: <20040529184452.94758.qmail@web80002.mail.yahoo.com> <003e01c445bc$b552fee0$1404fea9@xyz> <003001c445d4$b1f6eeb0$64f88018@markscomputer> <00a101c445de$4f0b1880$1404fea9@xyz> <200405311836.i4VIatZm090654@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <009901c44752$5b82b6c0$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <200406011415.i51EFawL096931@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: >> 800 is still a daytimer. > No it's not. The fact that it allegedly doesn't operate with its licensed parameters does not make it any less a daytimer in the eyes of the law. WNNW is a class-D station, authorized to operate with 244 watts ND-N, just six watts shy of the total necessary to make it a full-time station. As a class-D, WNNW is not required to serve its community of license after sunset, nor does it receive any protection from interference to its nighttime signal. >> in favor of programming that would cost real money.. > In the past, the flagship station has given the programming to the metro > stations it needs to fill in reception for free. (As long as it carries the > flagships spots.) Barter programming costs money. Not much money, but it does cost more to operate than leased time. Of course, the costs are much, much higher if you want to sell spot time. >> Correct answer: the one that Mr. Cohen prefers to do business with. > Which is usually the one that brings in the most money. You have personal experience with the Cohen family? -GAWollman From pete@partnercomm.com Tue Jun 1 10:38:34 2004 From: pete@partnercomm.com (Peter Murray) Date: Tue Jun 1 10:36:47 2004 Subject: WWZN / Celtics - Bill Griffith Column In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20040531185249.01b752a0@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 31 May 2004, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > > >WBCN said the same thing about blowing off music programming for the > >Patriots. > > > >The patriots brings in more audience that any of their off-peak music (with > >a PT DJ) programming. > > > Football & AOR are actually a pretty compatible mix. Both tend to appeal > to an under 35 male audience. There are any number of AORs around the > country that either carry or are flagship for NFL teams. But WBCN (last I checked, and I might be out of date) is not AOR. Modern Rock and football don't click as well as classic rock/AOR does. But I am not a professional in this field. Co-owned WZLX would appear to be the better match (with that said.) Then again, Howard Stern and classic rock appear to be a better match... and he isn't on 100.7 either. Clear Channel's AOR WDVE (102.5, Pittsburgh) carries the Pittsburgh Steelers games. Indeed, it is a good mix - and their super-B signal covers a Very Wide Area (though not as well as former KDKA-FM WLTJ (92.9, Pittsburgh) does from the same stick. -Peter Peter Murray (N3IXY) Vienna, VA From mamros@MIT.EDU Tue Jun 1 11:01:21 2004 From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros) Date: Tue Jun 1 11:01:32 2004 Subject: WWZN / Celtics - Bill Griffith Column In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 01 Jun 2004 10:38:34 EDT." Message-ID: <200406011501.i51F1L7N013327@all-night-tool.mit.edu> >But WBCN (last I checked, and I might be out of date) is not AOR. Modern >Rock and football don't click as well as classic rock/AOR does. But I am >not a professional in this field. Co-owned WZLX would appear to be the >better match (with that said.) Then again, Howard Stern and classic rock >appear to be a better match... and he isn't on 100.7 either. One other thing to keep in mind: The Pats only play once a week during the season, and most of their games fall during what would otherwise be dead time for a music station. So even if they were to chase away their entire regular audience on Sundays (and, if their current playlist is any indication, it looks like a mainstream rocker to me, so I suspect there's actually quite a bit of crossover), it's still a win-win for them. The Celtics play a lot more games during their season, and thus would take a much more substantial chunk of a station's total sirtime. If they had a winning team, that might not matter so much, but... -Shawn Mamros E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu From raccoonradio@yahoo.com Tue Jun 1 11:14:43 2004 From: raccoonradio@yahoo.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue Jun 1 11:14:52 2004 Subject: Morgan White Jr. (and his new site) Message-ID: <20040601151443.60196.qmail@web60807.mail.yahoo.com> Last night I went to the usual Monday night trivia at the Coolidge Corner Clubhouse in Brookline to see Morgan White, Jr., whom David Brudnoy calls "The Master of All Trivia". He's done shows for WMRE, WKOX, and other stations, and is a regular fill in for the likes of Brudnoy, Sullivan, Leveille (and maybe Rich) on WBZ. And he announced he now has a website: http://www.morganwhitejr.com It has the Boston Globe article about him and a bio. Morgan's done some other projects in the past like the "Studio 62 East" show for what was once Avi Nelson's TV station (WMFP-TV 62); he was part of "New England, the Patriots, and We" (??), the answer to the Bears' "Super Bowl Shuffle", and he and onetime WRKO host Bob Katzen did a stage show called "Don't Touch That Dial". I saw that show in the Theatre District (at Nick's, I believe); impressionist Jim Flaherty and "Monster Mash" singer Bobby "Boris" Pickett (of Somerville) were part of the cast. From elipolo@earthlink.net Tue Jun 1 13:22:15 2004 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Tue Jun 1 13:18:47 2004 Subject: WATD coverage Message-ID: A few things to consider, besides terrain in Brookline, interference from (or being inside of) buildings, Prudential interference, etc... Most quality car tuners are better than most home tuners. Only the best home stereo receivers equal most good car tuners for reception. In Somerville I get WATD nicely in the car, and at home if I place my antenna properly, I get them in stereo quite well on my mid-1970's Marantz and Sansui analog receivers with only slight background hiss. Those were excellent home tuners, better than many of todays digitals IMO. However, my digital Akai receiver from the mid-80's will only get WATD clearly in mono. If I can even get the stereo light to come on at all, it's extremely noisy. I use TV "rabbit ears" on my home stereos for indoor reception. I don't know what you're using for a home antenna, but I find basic "rabbit ears" far better than the wire antennas that come with most home stereos, and also better than most of the expensive designer indoor antennas which are designed more for decor than for function. I can pretty much forget about getting WATD on any portable home radios such as my Sony boombox, Walkmans, or my clock radio. Those poor quality tuners won't touch it, they get Prudential intermod all over the dial. You can expect WATD to come in fairly well on the North Shore because it's over water. Though salt water doesn't really "conduct" FM like it does AM, it provides flat and open terrain for the signal. Eli Polonsky >I've written before about how I can get WATD on my car radio in Brookline >(with a few dropout >spots here and there), but can't get it on any of my home radios except my >livingroom stereo, and then not very well. > >I was particularly surprised Saturday, while driving to Swampscott, to see >just how far north the WATD signal reached, at least in my car. > >That makes it all the more strange that I can't get them on my home >radios. From raccoonradio@yahoo.com Tue Jun 1 13:24:58 2004 From: raccoonradio@yahoo.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue Jun 1 13:25:08 2004 Subject: Karmazin steps down Message-ID: <20040601172458.53390.qmail@web60808.mail.yahoo.com> Saw this on CNBC and it's on Net wire services now. According to Reuters, "Viacom Inc.... said President Mel Karmazin has resigned, capping years of growing tension between Karmazin and Sumner Redstone, head of the media company that owns CBS and MTV. The plain-spoken and aggressive Karmazin has been Viacom's president and chief operating officer since 2000. Two of the company's most powerful unit heads, MTV Networks CEO Tom Freston and CBS CEO Leslie Moonves, were named co-presidents and co-chief operating officers to succeed him." From aerie.ma@comcast.net Tue Jun 1 13:27:32 2004 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Tue Jun 1 13:28:04 2004 Subject: WATD coverage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.2.20040601132657.01c408a8@mail.comcast.net> I hope Liam will be ready soon too, Alex. But I guess when he offered a "free web site" everyone took advantage of the offer and now he is very busy...hehe. At 01:22 PM 6/1/2004, Eli Polonsky wrote: >A few things to consider, besides terrain in Brookline, interference >from (or being inside of) buildings, Prudential interference, etc... > >Most quality car tuners are better than most home tuners. Only the >best home stereo receivers equal most good car tuners for reception. > >In Somerville I get WATD nicely in the car, and at home if I place >my antenna properly, I get them in stereo quite well on my mid-1970's >Marantz and Sansui analog receivers with only slight background hiss. >Those were excellent home tuners, better than many of todays digitals >IMO. > >However, my digital Akai receiver from the mid-80's will only get >WATD clearly in mono. If I can even get the stereo light to come on >at all, it's extremely noisy. > >I use TV "rabbit ears" on my home stereos for indoor reception. I >don't know what you're using for a home antenna, but I find basic >"rabbit ears" far better than the wire antennas that come with most >home stereos, and also better than most of the expensive designer >indoor antennas which are designed more for decor than for function. > >I can pretty much forget about getting WATD on any portable home >radios such as my Sony boombox, Walkmans, or my clock radio. Those >poor quality tuners won't touch it, they get Prudential intermod all >over the dial. > >You can expect WATD to come in fairly well on the North Shore >because it's over water. Though salt water doesn't really "conduct" >FM like it does AM, it provides flat and open terrain for the signal. > >Eli Polonsky > > > >I've written before about how I can get WATD on my car radio in Brookline > >(with a few dropout > >spots here and there), but can't get it on any of my home radios except my > >livingroom stereo, and then not very well. > > > >I was particularly surprised Saturday, while driving to Swampscott, to see > >just how far north the WATD signal reached, at least in my car. > > > >That makes it all the more strange that I can't get them on my home > >radios. From elipolo@earthlink.net Tue Jun 1 13:36:28 2004 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Tue Jun 1 13:32:59 2004 Subject: WWZN / Celtics - Bill Griffith Column Message-ID: >But WBCN (last I checked, and I might be out of date) is not AOR. Modern >Rock and football don't click as well as classic rock/AOR does. Have you heard 'BCN lately? They've been mixing in a fair amount of "hard" classic AOR along with the modern... Led Zep, Hendrix, Pink Floyd, etc... I guess that's like what's called the "active rock" format these days. >Then again, Howard Stern and classic rock appear to be a better match... >and he isn't on 100.7 either. I think that has more to do with attitude. WBCN's programming tends to be somewhat raunchier than WZLX's. Stern is a better fit there. Eli Polonsky From raccoonradio@yahoo.com Tue Jun 1 13:34:11 2004 From: raccoonradio@yahoo.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue Jun 1 13:34:19 2004 Subject: CNN-Money on Karmazin, Stern etc Message-ID: <20040601173411.86836.qmail@web60801.mail.yahoo.com> Link to CNNMoney article. Will Viacom move away from radio? Stern was quoted as saying his own days at Viacom are numbered now that supporter Karmazin is resigning. http://money.cnn.com/2004/06/01/news/fortune500/karmazin/index.htm From steveord@bit-net.com Tue Jun 1 13:43:14 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue Jun 1 13:43:15 2004 Subject: WWZN / Celtics - Bill Griffith Column In-Reply-To: References: <6.0.3.0.0.20040531185249.01b752a0@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <64968.216.204.15.170.1086111794.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> > Co-owned WZLX would appear to be > the better match (with that said.) Then again, Howard Stern and classic > rock appear to be a better match... and he isn't on 100.7 either. Isn't the lion's share of Stern's audience under 35? Not exactly classic rock demo. He seems to mostly be on altrock stations these days. From aerie.ma@comcast.net Tue Jun 1 13:45:48 2004 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim Hall) Date: Tue Jun 1 13:46:11 2004 Subject: WATD coverage In-Reply-To: <6.1.0.6.2.20040601132657.01c408a8@mail.comcast.net> References: <6.1.0.6.2.20040601132657.01c408a8@mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.2.20040601134459.01c4e3f8@mail.comcast.net> I'm sorry. I must have clicked on the wrong email when replying. That message was for another group. At 01:27 PM 6/1/2004, Jim Hall wrote: >I hope Liam will be ready soon too, Alex. But I guess when he offered a >"free web site" everyone took advantage of the offer and now he is very >busy...hehe. > > >At 01:22 PM 6/1/2004, Eli Polonsky wrote: >>A few things to consider, besides terrain in Brookline, interference >>from (or being inside of) buildings, Prudential interference, etc... >> >>Most quality car tuners are better than most home tuners. Only the >>best home stereo receivers equal most good car tuners for reception. >> >>In Somerville I get WATD nicely in the car, and at home if I place >>my antenna properly, I get them in stereo quite well on my mid-1970's >>Marantz and Sansui analog receivers with only slight background hiss. >>Those were excellent home tuners, better than many of todays digitals >>IMO. >> >>However, my digital Akai receiver from the mid-80's will only get >>WATD clearly in mono. If I can even get the stereo light to come on >>at all, it's extremely noisy. >> >>I use TV "rabbit ears" on my home stereos for indoor reception. I >>don't know what you're using for a home antenna, but I find basic >>"rabbit ears" far better than the wire antennas that come with most >>home stereos, and also better than most of the expensive designer >>indoor antennas which are designed more for decor than for function. >> >>I can pretty much forget about getting WATD on any portable home >>radios such as my Sony boombox, Walkmans, or my clock radio. Those >>poor quality tuners won't touch it, they get Prudential intermod all >>over the dial. >> >>You can expect WATD to come in fairly well on the North Shore >>because it's over water. Though salt water doesn't really "conduct" >>FM like it does AM, it provides flat and open terrain for the signal. >> >>Eli Polonsky >> >> >> >I've written before about how I can get WATD on my car radio in Brookline >> >(with a few dropout >> >spots here and there), but can't get it on any of my home radios except my >> >livingroom stereo, and then not very well. >> > >> >I was particularly surprised Saturday, while driving to Swampscott, to see >> >just how far north the WATD signal reached, at least in my car. >> > >> >That makes it all the more strange that I can't get them on my home >> >radios. From ssmyth@psu.edu Tue Jun 1 13:46:33 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Tue Jun 1 13:46:46 2004 Subject: WWZN / Celtics - Bill Griffith Column Message-ID: <200406011746.NAA19862@webmail9.cac.psu.edu> On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 13:36:28 +0000, Eli Polonsky wrote: > I think that has more to do with attitude. WBCN's programming tends > to be somewhat raunchier than WZLX's. Stern is a better fit there. Numerous news reports at the time of Infinity's purchase of WZLX (at the dawn of the duopoly era) noted Infinity allegedly "promised" not to put Stern on WZLX in order to curry favor with the (then-more-active) FCC commissioners. At the time (we're still talking the Bush 41 administration) there was one commissioner (Aiello?) who was more strongly anti-Stern than Michael Powell could ever hope to be. From raccoonradio@yahoo.com Tue Jun 1 13:46:52 2004 From: raccoonradio@yahoo.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue Jun 1 13:47:01 2004 Subject: WWZN / Celtics - Bill Griffith Column In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040601174652.52996.qmail@web60810.mail.yahoo.com> > I think that has more to do with attitude. WBCN's > programming tends > to be somewhat raunchier than WZLX's. Stern is a > better fit there. Now that Karmazin is gone, and I guess Stern's contract is up in 18 months, I wonder if Howard will start his own network to syndicate his show ('BCN would probably sign on)...he could also still be carried on XM and Sirius in addition to broadcast radio. Though if the FCC fines get too excessive, maybe he'd just stay on satellite... From steveord@bit-net.com Tue Jun 1 13:50:24 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue Jun 1 13:50:26 2004 Subject: CNN-Money on Karmazin, Stern etc In-Reply-To: <20040601173411.86836.qmail@web60801.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040601173411.86836.qmail@web60801.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <65103.216.204.15.170.1086112224.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> > Link to CNNMoney article. Will Viacom move away from > radio? Stern was quoted as saying his own days at > Viacom are numbered now that supporter Karmazin is > resigning. Of course Stern has been crying "wolf" for so many years it's a wonder anyone takes him seriously anymore. I'm sure they will re-evalute whether the revenue he brings in is worth the aggravation he causes. I doubt very much though that Mel in the big chair is the only thing that has kept Howard employed all these years. From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Jun 1 17:00:34 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Jun 1 17:00:54 2004 Subject: WNNW Observation Message-ID: Once again the urban legend about WNNW consistently running with daytime power 24 hours a day has come up in a thread. You may have noticed on some other radio boards that the FCC has been lowering the boom on stations around the country for such violations as unlighted towers or towers in need of painting, or unauthorized operation. Well, some of the frequent offenders in these parts have paid attention, and it appears that AM 800 HAS been powering down at night lately, if not precisely at sundown time. For several weeks, off and on, I've been observing slight differences in the signal strength where I live for WNNW. It's definitely stronger during the day than well after sunset. I wouldn't say you could set your watch by WNNW's reduction (you can with WRKO-AM, although I'm pretty sure I heard the "thwump" at 5:30 am today...hey it's JUNE!) but I'd assert that it happens sometime around local sunset. Also behaving is WROL-AM 950, although they have a CP in to add nighttime service with 1000 watts DA-N; they wouldn't want to jeopardize that with an FCC notice of violation! ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From billings@suscom-maine.net Tue Jun 1 21:11:28 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Tue Jun 1 21:11:34 2004 Subject: WWZN / Celtics - Bill Griffith Column References: <200406011501.i51F1L7N013327@all-night-tool.mit.edu> Message-ID: <008401c4483e$887815c0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> There is also no comparison between the popularity of the NFL and the popularity of the NBA (or any other sport for that matter). There are a lot more casual sports fan that follow the Pats than follow the Celtics. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Jun 2 01:27:18 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed Jun 2 01:27:08 2004 Subject: WATD coverage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <40BD2CF6.28843.31D8CE@localhost> On 1 Jun 2004 at 13:22, Eli Polonsky wrote: > In Somerville I get WATD nicely in the car, and at home if I place > my antenna properly, I get them in stereo quite well on my mid-1970's > Marantz and Sansui analog receivers with only slight background hiss. > Those were excellent home tuners, better than many of todays digitals IMO. > > However, my digital Akai receiver from the mid-80's will only get > WATD clearly in mono. If I can even get the stereo light to come on > at all, it's extremely noisy. I understand the overload problem, and that is a problem with some of my table radios, but I can't get WATD in the FM band on my Sony 2010 radio, which us a quality communications receiver, and that surprises me. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From steveord@bit-net.com Wed Jun 2 08:17:11 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Wed Jun 2 08:17:13 2004 Subject: WATD coverage In-Reply-To: <40BD2CF6.28843.31D8CE@localhost> References: <40BD2CF6.28843.31D8CE@localhost> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040602081532.01b05cf0@pop3.bit-net.com> A. Joseph Ross wrote: >I understand the overload problem, and that is a problem with some of my >table radios, but I >can't get WATD in the FM band on my Sony 2010 radio, which us a quality >communications >receiver, and that surprises me. But how good an FM section does it have? My experience with communications receivers (in general..I'm not familiar with the one you have) is that FM is a bit of an afterthought. From steveord@bit-net.com Wed Jun 2 08:20:15 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Wed Jun 2 08:20:28 2004 Subject: WWZN / Celtics - Bill Griffith Column In-Reply-To: <008401c4483e$887815c0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <200406011501.i51F1L7N013327@all-night-tool.mit.edu> <008401c4483e$887815c0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040602081721.01bed030@pop3.bit-net.com> Dan Billings wrote: >There is also no comparison between the popularity of the NFL and the >popularity of the NBA (or any other sport for that matter). There are a lot >more casual sports fan that follow the Pats than follow the Celtics. I'd put the Sox in with the Pats. If an affiliate can't sell out a Red Sox package they're not even trying. Agree with hockey & baskeball though...the Stanley Cup and whatever the basketball playoffs are called don't even come close to the interest of the World Series or Superbowl. From Kaimbridge@programmer.net Wed Jun 2 10:03:46 2004 From: Kaimbridge@programmer.net (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Wed Jun 2 10:04:19 2004 Subject: STRONG Pirate On 0.990 Message-ID: <40BDDE42.6EBC9856@Programmer.Net> First noted yesterday morning at 2:50am, a strong pirate (relative to Boston's South Station--signal continues half way decent, up here in Beverly, too) is present on 0.990. Typical ethnic music programming (Spanish/Caribbean/Salsa, etc.). On the times checked, no IDs/announcers noted and there appears to be stretches of dead air--and the audio quality leaves much to be desired (sounds like it is run out of someone's bedroom!). ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wanted?Kaimbridge (w/mugshot!): http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/Wanted_KMGC.html ---------- Digitology?The Grand Theory Of The Universe: http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/index.html ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Wed Jun 2 10:51:02 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed Jun 2 10:51:07 2004 Subject: WATD coverage In-Reply-To: <40BD2CF6.28843.31D8CE@localhost> References: <40BD2CF6.28843.31D8CE@localhost> Message-ID: <200406021451.i52Ep2Id005109@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > I understand the overload problem, and that is a problem with some > of my table radios, but I can't get WATD in the FM band on my Sony > 2010 radio, which us a quality communications receiver, and that > surprises me. Sony FM tuners are almost uniformly crap. (And I say that as a steady customer and happy owner of many pieces of Sony kit.) This certainly includes the FM tuner in the 2010, although it is better than many other Sony products; it has very poor selectivity and is prone to front-end overload. Probably if the IF filters were replaced (Sony likes to put 230-kHz filters in their tuners) it would be an OK tuner. -GAWollman From hmadjid@yahoo.com Wed Jun 2 13:34:02 2004 From: hmadjid@yahoo.com (Hakim Madjid) Date: Wed Jun 2 13:34:05 2004 Subject: WWZN / Celtics - Bill Griffith Column Message-ID: <20040602173402.2239.qmail@web80001.mail.yahoo.com> --- DonKelley@aol.com wrote: > > Why did the Celtics sell WEEI? They realized that > they're not broadcasters and didn't know how to run > a radio station. But they could have hired people who *DO* know how to run a station. The same goes if they do it nowadays. > > The problems are threefold: > 1) Basketball is not a good radio sport. Neither is > hockey. There are not enough natural pauses for > descrpitive surposes. Baseball and football are > excellent radio sports. > 2) The Celtics ain't what they used to be. The > team that sold out 500 straight games at the Garden > is a memory. Agreed. Then again, if the Celtics build up a dynasty again similar to that of the Auerbach / Bill Russell era, I would think it would be a quite lucrative for which ever station has the rights. > 3) No matter what you put on 1510AM it won't do > well. Awful signal, and it's on the wrong end of > the wrong band. As Bruce Springsteen said in My > Hometown..."seems like there ain't nobody wants to > go down here no more." Yea I agree, that's why I posted to the list that I thought if the Cs buy any station, it should be something like WTKK - that might viable as a second sports talker, provided that some decent on-air talent gets hired on. Then again, with enough promotion, perhaps 1510 could work. As I and others have pointed out it would take major spending like flying a blimp over Fenway with 1510 logos on it and stuff. Something like that. ===== 73, de Hakim (N1ZFF) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ From hmadjid@yahoo.com Wed Jun 2 13:44:46 2004 From: hmadjid@yahoo.com (Hakim Madjid) Date: Wed Jun 2 13:44:49 2004 Subject: Mel *QUITS* Message-ID: <20040602174446.21240.qmail@web80007.mail.yahoo.com> Alright -- Its all over the Business pages of the major news papers... Mel Karamzin has resigned from ViaCom. Leslie Moonvies, and MTV honcho Tom Freston have been named as co presidents? It's no industry secret that Mel Karmazin and Sumner Redstone do not get along, and that Redstone wanted anyone but Mel for his successor. Rumor has it that Mel himself is bound for Disney. ===== 73, de Hakim (N1ZFF) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Wed Jun 2 14:10:30 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed Jun 2 14:10:33 2004 Subject: WWZN / Celtics - Bill Griffith Column In-Reply-To: <20040602173402.2239.qmail@web80001.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040602173402.2239.qmail@web80001.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200406021810.i52IAU64006274@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > But they could have hired people who *DO* know how to > run a station. The same goes if they do it nowadays. Having to pay all of those sorts of people to run one station, when Entercom is already paying the same sorts of people to run five stations, is a losing proposition. We're in a market which is dominated by three major, horizontally-integrated national entertainment companies (and one small, horizontally-integrated regional radio broadcaster). Competitively, anyone who wants to outcompete these companies needs a superlative execution to even compete with the financial advantages that Entercom, Viacom, Clear Channel, and Greater Media have, and probably still won't come out ahead. -GAWollman From maine.radio@verizon.net Wed Jun 2 17:35:41 2004 From: maine.radio@verizon.net (Jason Roberts - WCTB/WHQO/WSKW) Date: Wed Jun 2 17:35:46 2004 Subject: Teen Reporter in Iraq Message-ID: <009b01c448e9$8e5ce910$6e01010a@LAPTOP> Some of you may have heard the stories on WBZ in Boston or on WHQO 107.9 THE Talk Station in Maine, but I thought I'd share it here for a couple of reasons. First and foremost, I, personally, would welcome advice on how to help this young man reach a wider audience. Other than buying a distribution list, what is the quickest way to reach programmers? (I've been the one being reached for so long that I've never really given thought to how they track me down!) Derek would like to get as many affiliates on board as he can, not for financial gain (although I'd like to see the kid less in the red after this than he currently is), but because he's gone through a lot of work to put this all together and his reports will be different than those filed by the networks. Unfortunately my own work -- nobody on this list knows what it's like to be understaffed and overworked, right? -- has kept me from helping him with as much I would have liked to, and now the day is nigh. Any feedback is appreciated. Following is the release. -J. ------------------------------------------- Derek Mitchell is an impressive, driven young man. Along with the prom, graduation, college prep, and other activities any high school senior might undertake, Mitchell has added a trip to Iraq to his list of things to do in June. Later this month, Derek Mitchell will spend two weeks in Iraq where he will file reports for our WHQO 107.9 The Talk Station. This trip was planned and paid for by Derek -- who sold his Jeep to pay the airfare -- most of the necessary equipment for his trip, from complete body armor to a top-of-the-line satellite phone, was donated by the manufacturers, and the necessary clearances have been obtained. When he sets foot in Iraq, it is believed he will be the youngest journalist to visit the war torn country since the start of Operation Iraqi Freedom. Derek pitched the idea to me, and while I was initially both uncertain and concerned about the idea, he has proven that he is ready for this challenge. It occurs to me, though, that this is an undertaking that is worthy of greater coverage than we are able to provide with our stations in the Augusta/Waterville, Maine, radio market. Derek would like to file reports for other stations, as well, and I believe this is a unique opportunity for any media outlet to be a part of a story which is likely to get national attention. For additional information on Derek Mitchell, or to carry his daily Mitchell on the Move reports from Iraq, please visit http://iraq.radiomaine.net . Jason Roberts VP / Station Manager WHQO 107.9 The Talk Station From mamros@MIT.EDU Wed Jun 2 17:39:58 2004 From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros) Date: Wed Jun 2 17:40:00 2004 Subject: Mel *QUITS* In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 02 Jun 2004 10:44:46 PDT." <20040602174446.21240.qmail@web80007.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200406022139.i52LdwcB021063@all-night-tool.mit.edu> >Rumor has it that Mel himself is bound for Disney. Seems highly unlikely. The Disney board has already stated they're solidly behind Michael Eisner and his current management team. And if Mel had troubles getting along with Sumner, that's nothing compared with what it would take to work for Eisner. A more substantial rumor, IMO, has Mel putting together a group of investors to buy back Viacom's radio properties. Supposedly Sumner has said he's not adverse to the idea of selling those off. Could end up meaning that CBS Radio and CBS TV will be owned by different companies, which could make things interesting at 1170 Soldiers Field Rd (and a fair number of other prestigious addresses in certain cities). As they say, stay tuned... -Shawn Mamros E-mail to: mamros -at- mit dot edu From kc1ih@mac.com Wed Jun 2 17:45:00 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Wed Jun 2 17:45:07 2004 Subject: Teen Reporter in Iraq In-Reply-To: <009b01c448e9$8e5ce910$6e01010a@LAPTOP> References: <009b01c448e9$8e5ce910$6e01010a@LAPTOP> Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.2.20040602174252.02921120@mail.mac.com> I would do nothing to encourage a young person to travel to such a dangerous part of the world. I think this is really a foolish and dangerous thing to do. At 05:35 PM 6/2/2004, Jason Roberts - WCTB/WHQO/WSKW wrote: >Some of you may have heard the stories on WBZ in Boston or on WHQO 107.9 THE >Talk Station in Maine, but I thought I'd share it here for a couple of >reasons. First and foremost, I, personally, would welcome advice on how to >help this young man reach a wider audience. Other than buying a distribution >list, what is the quickest way to reach programmers? (I've been the one >being reached for so long that I've never really given thought to how they >track me down!) >. >------------------------------------------- >Derek Mitchell is an impressive, driven young man. Along with the prom, >graduation, college prep, and other activities any high school senior might >undertake, Mitchell has added a trip to Iraq to his list of things to do in >June. > >Later this month, Derek Mitchell will spend two weeks in Iraq where he will >file reports for our WHQO 107.9 The Talk Station. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From maine.radio@verizon.net Wed Jun 2 17:58:55 2004 From: maine.radio@verizon.net (Jason Roberts - WCTB/WHQO/WSKW) Date: Wed Jun 2 17:58:59 2004 Subject: Teen Reporter in Iraq References: <009b01c448e9$8e5ce910$6e01010a@LAPTOP> <6.1.0.6.2.20040602174252.02921120@mail.mac.com> Message-ID: <00b101c448ec$cd7cb3c0$6e01010a@LAPTOP> Larry- I agreed completely and did everything I could to discourage this trip in the beginning. Ultimately, though, his parents and school advisors gave him their support, and I chose to do the same. This is truly a case of you having to know this kid, to understand his drive; it was going to happen regardless of whether I supported him or not. He is better prepared than most journalists of any age, with both equipment and training (he is, I believe, the youngest graduate of AKE's Hostile Environment program). He was going. My disapproval would not have stopped him. But trust me, I completely understand your point of view and I don't do this easily. I know that my small staff and I will all lose a lot of sleep when he's over there. -J. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Weil" To: "Jason Roberts - WCTB/WHQO/WSKW" ; Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 5:45 PM Subject: Re: Teen Reporter in Iraq > I would do nothing to encourage a young person to travel to such a > dangerous part of the world. I think this is really a foolish and > dangerous thing to do. > > At 05:35 PM 6/2/2004, Jason Roberts - WCTB/WHQO/WSKW wrote: > >Some of you may have heard the stories on WBZ in Boston or on WHQO 107.9 THE > >Talk Station in Maine, but I thought I'd share it here for a couple of > >reasons. First and foremost, I, personally, would welcome advice on how to > >help this young man reach a wider audience. Other than buying a distribution > >list, what is the quickest way to reach programmers? (I've been the one > >being reached for so long that I've never really given thought to how they > >track me down!) > >. > >------------------------------------------- > >Derek Mitchell is an impressive, driven young man. Along with the prom, > >graduation, college prep, and other activities any high school senior might > >undertake, Mitchell has added a trip to Iraq to his list of things to do in > >June. > > > >Later this month, Derek Mitchell will spend two weeks in Iraq where he will > >file reports for our WHQO 107.9 The Talk Station. > > -- > Larry Weil > Lake Wobegone, NH > > From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Jun 3 00:34:32 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Jun 3 00:33:59 2004 Subject: Mel *QUITS* In-Reply-To: <200406022139.i52LdwcB021063@all-night-tool.mit.edu> References: Your message of "Wed, 02 Jun 2004 10:44:46 PDT." <20040602174446.21240.qmail@web80007.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <40BE7218.18311.519A42@localhost> On 2 Jun 2004 at 17:39, Shawn Mamros wrote: > A more substantial rumor, IMO, has Mel putting together a group of > investors to buy back Viacom's radio properties. Supposedly Sumner > has said he's not adverse to the idea of selling those off. Could > end up meaning that CBS Radio and CBS TV will be owned by different > companies, which could make things interesting at 1170 Soldiers Field Rd > (and a fair number of other prestigious addresses in certain cities). As > they say, stay tuned... It may even have WBZ radio and WBZ-TV under separate ownership. And that may mean a call-letter change, dammit! -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Jun 3 00:34:32 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Jun 3 00:34:00 2004 Subject: Teen Reporter in Iraq In-Reply-To: <6.1.0.6.2.20040602174252.02921120@mail.mac.com> References: <009b01c448e9$8e5ce910$6e01010a@LAPTOP> Message-ID: <40BE7218.25176.519AA0@localhost> On 2 Jun 2004 at 17:45, Larry Weil wrote: > I would do nothing to encourage a young person to travel to such a > dangerous part of the world. I think this is really a foolish and > dangerous thing to do. >From the story, it sounds as though the kid is 18 and able to decide for himself. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Jun 3 05:16:24 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu Jun 3 05:17:18 2004 Subject: Mel *QUITS* References: Your message of "Wed, 02 Jun 2004 10:44:46PDT." <20040602174446.21240.qmail@web80007.mail.yahoo.com> <40BE7218.18311.519A42@localhost> Message-ID: <000901c4494b$8b4bec00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Well, WWBZ appears to be available for both AM and TV; WBBZ appears to be available for TV. Since calls mean almost nothing on TV (and WBZ-TV now uses its calls only in legal IDs), one would hope that CBS would relinquish the WBZ calls from TV and let the AM have them. Since Karmazin apparently reduces every issue to economic terms, you have to wonder whether he can assign an economic value to the WBZ calls remaining on radio. I think the value is huge. If WBZ 1030 were to change its calls, people would nevertheless continue to write them into Arbitron diaries as long as Arbitron continues using diaries. If Arbitron no longer counted diary entries that read WBZ as meaning the station on 1030 AM, the ratings would plummet--perhaps by 40%--and the value of the radio station's spot inventory would decrease by a similar amount--probably NEVER to recover. That fact is probably sufficiently tied to the state of Mel's wallet that even someone as, umm, single-minded as he is could grasp its importance. OTOH, Sumner probably understands the importance also and I'm sure he's not above requiring Mel to fork over a hefty chunk of additional change to keep the calls with the AM. Come to think of it, there are quite a few major markets in which call signs remaining with an AM could become an important economic issue in a spin-off of Viacom's radio properties. The Boston scenario could certainly apply AT LEAST in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. For us radio geeks, monitoring the fight over the economic value of the call signs could become a thrilling spectator sport ;>) -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: A. Joseph Ross To: Shawn Mamros Cc: Boston Radio Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 12:34 AM Subject: Re: Mel *QUITS* > > It may even have WBZ radio and WBZ-TV under separate ownership. And that may mean a > call-letter change, dammit! From pete@partnercomm.com Thu Jun 3 08:35:29 2004 From: pete@partnercomm.com (Peter Murray) Date: Thu Jun 3 08:33:41 2004 Subject: Mel *QUITS* In-Reply-To: <000901c4494b$8b4bec00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: There is no reason for conjecture on what will happen with the WBZ and WBZ-TV calls, as similar events occured in Harrisburg, PA about 20(?) years ago. WHP and WHP-TV still have their callsigns, despite discrete ownership. WHP-FM has a more complicated callsign history, but that is a story for another time... -Peter Peter Murray (N3IXY) Vienna, VA From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Thu Jun 3 13:01:02 2004 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Thu Jun 3 12:59:13 2004 Subject: Oedipus Steps Down Message-ID: <000001c4498c$5aa924a0$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> According to All Access Net News, Oedipus is relinquishing his WBCN PD chair, but will remain a part of Steve Rivers' team as an Infinity VP/Alternative Programming. A search is underway for a replacement. Say it ain't so, Oeddie... 27+ years at 'BCN... Not a bad run for the enigmatic one. - -Chuck Igo From scott@fybush.com Thu Jun 3 13:48:14 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu Jun 3 13:48:03 2004 Subject: Mel *QUITS* In-Reply-To: <000901c4494b$8b4bec00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <40BE7218.18311.519A42@localhost> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040603134425.02e70a78@gwind.pair.com> Three things here: 1. Even if 1030 were to have to change calls to "WWBZ" or somesuch, it could still register "WBZ" as its slogan with Arbitron, just as KKOH in Reno does with "KOH" (a three-letter call that need never have been lost, but that's another story), so there's no reason someone writing "WBZ" in a diary wouldn't still have their listening credited to the correct station. 2. Even if Viacom were to spin off Infinity, there's no reason at all that WBZ-TV and WBZ(AM) couldn't both keep their current calls. I'm sure Viacom would even be more than happy to continue leasing space at 1170 SFR to Infinity Radio. 3. According to Tom Taylor and Inside Radio, one of the most reliable sources out there (disclaimer: I work for Inside Radio/M Street/100 kw), the rumor about Mel buying back Infinity Radio is just that - an unfounded rumor. (Where's Joseph G. when we need him most? ;-) s At 05:16 AM 6/3/2004 -0400, Dan Strassberg wrote: >Well, WWBZ appears to be available for both AM and TV; WBBZ appears to be >available for TV. Since calls mean almost nothing on TV (and WBZ-TV now uses >its calls only in legal IDs), one would hope that CBS would relinquish the >WBZ calls from TV and let the AM have them. Since Karmazin apparently >reduces every issue to economic terms, you have to wonder whether he can >assign an economic value to the WBZ calls remaining on radio. I think the >value is huge. If WBZ 1030 were to change its calls, people would >nevertheless continue to write them into Arbitron diaries as long as >Arbitron continues using diaries. If Arbitron no longer counted diary >entries that read WBZ as meaning the station on 1030 AM, the ratings would >plummet--perhaps by 40%--and the value of the radio station's spot inventory >would decrease by a similar amount--probably NEVER to recover. From steveord@bit-net.com Thu Jun 3 14:31:30 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu Jun 3 14:31:37 2004 Subject: Oedipus Steps Down In-Reply-To: <000001c4498c$5aa924a0$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> References: <000001c4498c$5aa924a0$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: <64217.216.204.15.170.1086287490.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> > According to All Access Net News, Oedipus is relinquishing his WBCN PD > chair, but will remain a part of Steve Rivers' team as an Infinity > VP/Alternative Programming. A search is underway for a replacement. Someone told me once that Arnie Ginsburg was PD at WBCN for a while in the early 70s. Sounds like an odd fit. From ssmyth@psu.edu Thu Jun 3 14:42:55 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Thu Jun 3 14:42:56 2004 Subject: Mel *QUITS* In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c4499a$95ffff70$98433c18@Sean> Peter Murray writes: > There is no reason for conjecture on what will happen with > the WBZ and > WBZ-TV calls, as similar events occured in Harrisburg, PA about 20(?) > years ago. WHP and WHP-TV still have their callsigns, despite > discrete > ownership. WHP-FM has a more complicated callsign history, > but that is a > story for another time... Once upon a time, there was a rule that calls had to be changed upon a sale (see WEEI-FM/WHTT). As for WHP and WHP-TV: if they were at one time separate, they're back in the same hands again -- Clear Channel's to be exact. From scott@fybush.com Thu Jun 3 15:52:09 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu Jun 3 15:52:15 2004 Subject: Mel *QUITS* In-Reply-To: <000001c4499a$95ffff70$98433c18@Sean> References: <000001c4499a$95ffff70$98433c18@Sean> Message-ID: <45087.66.36.29.157.1086292329.squirrel@66.36.29.157> > Peter Murray writes: >> There is no reason for conjecture on what will happen with >> the WBZ and >> WBZ-TV calls, as similar events occured in Harrisburg, PA about 20(?) >> years ago. WHP and WHP-TV still have their callsigns, despite >> discrete >> ownership. WHP-FM has a more complicated callsign history, >> but that is a >> story for another time... > > Once upon a time, there was a rule that calls had to be changed upon a > sale > (see WEEI-FM/WHTT). Once upon a time, yes...but no more. A few examples from around the region: WTIC(AM)/WTIC-FM - Infinity / WTIC-TV - Tribune WROC-TV - Nexstar / WROC(AM) - Entercom WORC-FM - Citadel / WORC(AM) - local owners s From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Thu Jun 3 18:35:33 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Thu Jun 3 18:35:40 2004 Subject: Oedipus Steps Down In-Reply-To: <64217.216.204.15.170.1086287490.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <20040603223533.85700.qmail@web52307.mail.yahoo.com> --- SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Someone told me once that Arnie Ginsburg was PD at > WBCN for a while in the > early 70s. Sounds like an odd fit. I think he was GM...not PD. After the WMEX/WRKO thing...he worked in sales and then getting the GM seat. I believe he was GM of WWEL too(remember them?)! ===== Joe Pappalardo joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Thu Jun 3 19:28:28 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu Jun 3 19:28:15 2004 Subject: Oedipus Steps Down Message-ID: <200406031928.AA1279066142@mail.ttlc.net> "SteveOrdinetz" >Someone told me once that Arnie Ginsburg was PD at WBCN for a while >in the early 70s. Sounds like an odd fit. IIRC, Arnie was part-owner/GM of WBCN in the mid 60's i.e. '66/'67. Back when their studios were in the Salada Building. From gary@garysicecream.com Thu Jun 3 23:45:24 2004 From: gary@garysicecream.com (gic) Date: Thu Jun 3 23:45:40 2004 Subject: Pre-announcement announcement References: <200406030522.i535M6Er002055@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <004101c449e6$5f190f00$6500a8c0@office> I've tried RealPlayer, QuickTime, Windows Media Player, Cool Edit Pro - nothing recognizes the .ogg format!?! -Gary's Ice Cream Chelmsford, MA www.garysicecream.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" To: ; "Dennis Jackson" ; ; Cc: "Scott Fybush" Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 1:22 AM Subject: Pre-announcement announcement > I'm close to throwing the switch to open the new audio section in The > Archives. The new audio section has most (but not all) of the old > audio clips, but now in higher quality and with better organization. > There's also some new stuff, including a brand new WWRX Pawcatuck, and > some old stuff that was never on the site before (including all of my > "ID tape 5" from 1998, previously available only when sitting in the > passenger seat of my car. > > There are still a bunch of things I need to find source tapes for, > including a 'CBS-FM ID with a Ron Lundy jock shout and the whole WINY > song (``1-3-5-O in Putnam! / News for you and music too, / The fun > spot to be is on WINY! / This is WINY in Putnam!''), plus a number of > old jingles received on tape from other people. Likewise an old 'LNG > ID from when the AM was still on the air. There are also a few that I > f---ed up while doing the editing for this collection that I need to > pull off the original tapes. > > Doubtless I've gotten some of the flags wrong, or even worse. (I just > noticed that most of the Philly stations are still categorized as > "miscellaneous Pennsylvania".) Listen as much as you can to the > classic station IDs of the mid-1990s: > > -GAWollman > From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Fri Jun 4 08:04:09 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Fri Jun 4 08:03:56 2004 Subject: Pre-announcement announcement Message-ID: <200406040804.AA316735516@mail.ttlc.net> "gic" wrote: >I've tried RealPlayer, QuickTime, Windows Media Player, Cool Edit Pro - >nothing recognizes the .ogg format!?! I thought OTSDJ did? From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Jun 5 12:13:49 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sat Jun 5 12:14:05 2004 Subject: Portland talk show host dies Message-ID: <003101c44b18$1a1b1fa0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> WCSH is reporting that Mike McCardle, the conservative co-host of WGAN's morning show, has died at the age of 52. From dwcole@comcast.net Sat Jun 5 12:24:31 2004 From: dwcole@comcast.net (Dan C) Date: Sat Jun 5 12:24:36 2004 Subject: Portland talk show host dies References: <003101c44b18$1a1b1fa0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <000401c44b19$958df2b0$61f29318@HP310n> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Billings" To: "Boston Radio" Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 12:13 PM Subject: Portland talk show host dies > WCSH is reporting that Mike McCardle, the conservative co-host of WGAN's > morning show, has died at the age of 52. Mike died suddenly last night while visiting his family in Pennsylvania. A Civil War buff, he was participating in a re-enactment. Late last night he felt ill and died of a massive heart attack. Only a few months ago, his younger brother also died of a heart attack. Mike was my co-worker for the past four years. He was a good friend, a warm and friendly man. We at the Portland Radio Group have lost a great individual...and we are the poorer for it. Mike leaves a wife and two daughters. Our thoughts are with them. Dan Cole, Morning anchor, WGAN From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Jun 5 14:57:57 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Jun 5 14:58:15 2004 Subject: American Repertory Theater Message-ID: There's a two-stage theater complex in Cambridge, Mass operated by an entity called the American Repertory Theater (A.R.T). If you were in the Boston area and checking the Globe's Calendar section to plan your weekend's entertainment, you might have seen this entry: At the A.R.T. in Cambridge's main stage...Sophocles' "Oedipus"; at the experimental theater, an adaptation for the stage of Dostoyevsky's novel "The Idiot". http://www.amrep.org/ http://www.amrep.org/iatt/instperf.html You couldn't make something like this up! ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From kc1ih@mac.com Sat Jun 5 15:41:48 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat Jun 5 15:42:03 2004 Subject: Portland talk show host dies In-Reply-To: <003101c44b18$1a1b1fa0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <003101c44b18$1a1b1fa0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.2.20040605153734.029206d0@mail.mac.com> At 12:13 PM 6/5/2004, Dan Billings wrote: >WCSH is reporting that Mike McCardle, the conservative co-host of WGAN's >morning show, has died at the age of 52. I found out today that Carl Rey (ham calls N1EVT and VP4KN), an engineer at WBZ-TV, who formerly worked at WHDH-TV, passed away last night at the WBZ studios of an apparent heart attack. I have no further details. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From billo@shoreham.net Sat Jun 5 16:08:23 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat Jun 5 16:08:50 2004 Subject: Portland talk show host dies In-Reply-To: <000401c44b19$958df2b0$61f29318@HP310n> Message-ID: <001f01c44b38$db78b7f0$0300a8c0@boneill> > Mike died suddenly last night while visiting his family in > Pennsylvania. A > Civil War buff, he was participating in a re-enactment. Late > last night he > felt ill and died of a massive heart attack. Only a few > months ago, his > younger brother also died of a heart attack. > Mike was my co-worker for the past four years. He was a good > friend, a warm > and friendly man. We at the Portland Radio Group have lost a great > individual...and we are the poorer for it. > Mike leaves a wife and two daughters. > Our thoughts are with them. > > Dan Cole, > Morning anchor, > WGAN How horrible. Our prayers go out to you, his friends, and his family. I didn't know Mike, but certainly knew of him and heard nothing but wonderful things about him. Please let us know if his family has any specific needs, if you can. (Feel free to respond off-list, if you prefer.) I lost my brother, Jim, in 1987 to a massive heart attack. Jim was a year younger than I, and was only 24, in good shape, liked to work out. His greatest quality was his total disinterest in radio and his unfailing ability to keep my radio-vice in perspective for me. It's losses like Mike's that tend to bring back that reminder that we're just passing through. Enjoy the ride. It sounds like Mike was doing what he loved right up to sign-off. Bill O'Neill Shoreham, Vermont From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Jun 5 16:57:00 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sat Jun 5 16:57:04 2004 Subject: President Reagan dies at 93 Message-ID: <005401c44b3f$a5d09670$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> I happened to flip by WMTW and noticed the ABC coverage. ABC was on with the story about 5 minutes earlier than any other outlet. NBC was on next, followed quickly by CNN, CBS, and Fox. From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Jun 5 23:44:11 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat Jun 5 23:44:32 2004 Subject: Boomtown Memories Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040605234239.02fe4808@pop.registeredsite.com> I noticed on www.boston.com they are seeking people who were on Boomtown: "If you are a Boston native between 30 and 60, you probably remember Rex Trailer's "Boomtown." The Western-themed children's program ran weekend mornings from 1956 to 1974. Did you appear on the show? Do you have a favorite episode or Rex moment? Did Rex make a difference in your life? If you are willing to be interviewed, please fill out this form and help us introduce a new generation to Boom, Boom, Boomtown." Here's the jump to fill out the survey questions: http://www.boston.com/news/messageboards/globe1/index.shtml?p1=RR_ReportersQuestions From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Jun 6 11:09:25 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sun Jun 6 11:09:31 2004 Subject: Telegram story about Mike McCardell Message-ID: <000501c44bd8$41ca90b0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> The story gives more details about his life and death and tells the remarkable story about how he ended up working in radio: http://www.pressherald.com/news/local/040606mccardell.shtml From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Sun Jun 6 12:17:27 2004 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Sun Jun 6 12:16:32 2004 Subject: Telegram story about Mike McCardell In-Reply-To: <000501c44bd8$41ca90b0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <000001c44be1$c34dd800$0200a8c0@maine.rr.com> Dan B shared the following: >>The story gives more details about his life and death and tells the remarkable story about how he ended up working in radio: http://www.pressherald.com/news/local/040606mccardell.shtml << Mike was a very unique individual. I can recall being somewhat miffed four years ago that a once highly-coveted morning show on Portland's legendary AM560 WGAN was going to a man who had the distinction of being a well-versed caller. Mike was more than well versed, though. And Mike actually had a fun-love of radio that went back to his college days. He was, as many will say, very much bigger than life. He was actually a model, too! (Shipyard's Federal Jack's restaurant & Pub: http://www.federaljacks.com/ ) That's Mike! As a father, we shared many of life's woes (filling out the college aid FAFSA and the monthy disbursements to pay for college loans). As a husband, he was always at Maine State Ballet's "The Nutcracker" as his wife, Melinda, is a member of the talented live orchestra. He loved his Philadelphia Eagles (which we in Patriot's country managed to overlook). And he truly loved living in Maine, his concern for the issues and his ideas as to how best solve a problem, like most of us, intended to improve the way life should be. Yesterday, (Saturday) Willy Ritch hosted his Saturday show with calls and remembrances of Mike McCardle. Today, John McDonald is also fielding calls and memories from listeners, fellow media members and friends of Mike. Both are handling the situation with an unflinching grace and professionalism. As his on-air partner, Ken Altshuler so aptly stated yesterday, it's very much a bad dream. Mike's passing is one of those things are truly unfair, and as a co-worker, I will miss his company and smile each morning. - -Chuck Igo Portland Radio Group Morning Host, Oldies 100.9 WGAN Morning News With Mike&Ken "sports guy" From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Jun 6 12:51:17 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Jun 6 12:50:30 2004 Subject: Rhythm Club program Message-ID: <40C31345.209.1A8D08@localhost> There's an interesting article at http://www.docnews.com/rhythm_club.html about "The Rhythm Club," a program which began on WGKA in Atlanta, featuring an interesting collection of rhythm and blues music by a DJ who has a incredible collection of records and seemingly can't be stumped. The program is now on Saturday nights on WMUA in Amherst while its host, Brian Eagan, pursues a masters degree in history at UMass. It's an interesting and odd migration of a radio program. I suppose it will eventually return to Atlanta when Eagan gets his degree. Right now, since WMUA streams over the Internet, the program is available anywhere. I don't know whether the Atlanta station is on the net. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From n1qgs@yahoo.com Sun Jun 6 12:56:01 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Sun Jun 6 12:56:07 2004 Subject: ABC Newsroom watching NBC / Belmont Stakes Message-ID: <20040606165601.51428.qmail@web12507.mail.yahoo.com> I had planed on watching the coverage on NBC of the third leg of horse racings triple crown. The death of Ronald Reagan had me channel surfing between ABC and NBC, awaiting the start of the race. I got tired of channel surfing and stuck with ABC. However, while watching ABC I was made aware that the race was underway by all the commotion in the background on the ABC set, followed by a very loud SSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH. The flipped back to NBC just as the race ended. It certainly appears that the staffers in the background of the news set at ABC inappropriately got carried away to the point the news watching audience took notice. John Derry NH ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Jun 6 13:10:55 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun Jun 6 13:11:56 2004 Subject: Rhythm Club program References: <40C31345.209.1A8D08@localhost> Message-ID: <000b01c44be9$5872d3c0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> There may be a WGKA-FM, but WGKA (AM) is a daytimer. (For years, it was Atlanta's classical music station, but it is now owned by Salem and is doing brokered religion, I believe.) In what daypart did the Atlanta R&B program run? Maybe it's just me, but I think of little-known R&B as a late-night format. It's hard to do a late-night program on a daytimer--at least if you want anyone to hear the program. WGKA has applied to go full-time, but the application has been pending for several years now. It's one of those complicated deals. WGKA is on 1190. With the downgrade of WOWO, you'd think adding night service would be simple, but the upgrade (which involves construction of a five-or six-tower directional array at a site separate from WGKA's current site, which would be retained as the day site) is tied in with a WOWO upgrade, a WLIB upgrade, and maybe an upgrade to WBIS Annapolis MD--all of which seem to be mired in one of the FCC's famous black holes. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: A. Joseph Ross To: Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 12:51 PM Subject: Rhythm Club program > There's an interesting article at http://www.docnews.com/rhythm_club.html about "The > Rhythm Club," a program which began on WGKA in Atlanta, featuring an interesting > collection of rhythm and blues music by a DJ who has a incredible collection of records and > seemingly can't be stumped. The program is now on Saturday nights on WMUA in Amherst > while its host, Brian Eagan, pursues a masters degree in history at UMass. > > It's an interesting and odd migration of a radio program. I suppose it will eventually return to > Atlanta when Eagan gets his degree. Right now, since WMUA streams over the Internet, > the program is available anywhere. I don't know whether the Atlanta station is on the net. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Jun 6 13:47:36 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Jun 6 13:46:54 2004 Subject: Rhythm Club program In-Reply-To: <000b01c44be9$5872d3c0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <40C32078.20170.4E1F57@localhost> On 6 Jun 2004 at 13:10, Dan Strassberg wrote: > There may be a WGKA-FM, but WGKA (AM) is a daytimer. (For years, it was > Atlanta's classical music station, but it is now owned by Salem and is > doing brokered religion, I believe.) In what daypart did the Atlanta R&B > program run? All I know is what appears at the ULR that I gave. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From scott@fybush.com Sun Jun 6 14:13:35 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun Jun 6 14:13:19 2004 Subject: Rhythm Club program In-Reply-To: <000b01c44be9$5872d3c0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <40C31345.209.1A8D08@localhost> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040606141311.03a0a4c0@gwind.pair.com> At 01:10 PM 6/6/2004 -0400, Dan Strassberg wrote: >There may be a WGKA-FM, but WGKA (AM) is a daytimer. There was a WGKA-FM, years ago. It was the 92.9 that's now Infinity classic rocker WZGC. s From steveord@bit-net.com Sun Jun 6 18:20:26 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sun Jun 6 18:20:27 2004 Subject: Rhythm Club program In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040606141311.03a0a4c0@gwind.pair.com> References: <40C31345.209.1A8D08@localhost> <5.1.0.14.0.20040606141311.03a0a4c0@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040606181912.01b01e18@pop3.bit-net.com> Scott Fybush wrote: >There was a WGKA-FM, years ago. It was the 92.9 that's now Infinity >classic rocker WZGC. It must have been a looong time ago...the WZGC calls have been around since the mid-70s anyway. From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Jun 6 23:10:43 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Jun 6 23:10:12 2004 Subject: Rhythm Club program In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040606141311.03a0a4c0@gwind.pair.com> References: <000b01c44be9$5872d3c0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <40C3A473.27945.251BF52@localhost> On 6 Jun 2004 at 14:13, Scott Fybush wrote: > At 01:10 PM 6/6/2004 -0400, Dan Strassberg wrote: > >There may be a WGKA-FM, but WGKA (AM) is a daytimer. > > There was a WGKA-FM, years ago. It was the 92.9 that's now Infinity > classic rocker WZGC. The author of the article refers to having tuned in, one morning in 1997, to a station in Atlanta, WGKA, because their format was classical, and being surprised to hear The Rhythm Club. So since it was a morning show in Atlanta, it could have been on the AM station. Which WGKA was classical in 1997? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From scott@fybush.com Mon Jun 7 00:14:30 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon Jun 7 00:14:15 2004 Subject: Rhythm Club program In-Reply-To: <40C3A473.27945.251BF52@localhost> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040606141311.03a0a4c0@gwind.pair.com> <000b01c44be9$5872d3c0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040607001404.02f97208@gwind.pair.com> At 11:10 PM 6/6/2004 -0400, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >On 6 Jun 2004 at 14:13, Scott Fybush wrote: > > > At 01:10 PM 6/6/2004 -0400, Dan Strassberg wrote: > > >There may be a WGKA-FM, but WGKA (AM) is a daytimer. > > > > There was a WGKA-FM, years ago. It was the 92.9 that's now Infinity > > classic rocker WZGC. > >The author of the article refers to having tuned in, one morning in 1997, >to a station in >Atlanta, WGKA, because their format was classical, and being surprised to >hear The >Rhythm Club. So since it was a morning show in Atlanta, it could have >been on the AM >station. Which WGKA was classical in 1997? The only WGKA that then existed - AM 1190. The FM changed calls and was sold way back in the early 70s. s From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Mon Jun 7 02:50:06 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Mon Jun 7 02:49:05 2004 Subject: Glamour magazine... ;-) Message-ID: <002d01c44c5b$b434a360$1404fea9@xyz> My wife recently pointed out something in an article of Glamour Magazine that she was reading in the hair salon. (BTW...Wasn't Glamour Magazine the one George Castanza got caught with by his mother on Seinfeld?) The article was "5 Truths about sex now exposed". It quotes a "Lara Solomon", 34, as a "Boston Radio Host". (Apparently Lara says "quality" trumps "quantity" in her bedroom.) ;-) Anyone know who Lara Solomon is? I had never heard the name on Boston Radio. (Now, if this was the Boston Globe or the NY Times, I might imagine they just "made her up"...but after all....this is Glamour Magazine! They have much higher standards, I assume!) Just something to brighten your Monday... ;-) JP From raccoonradio@yahoo.com Mon Jun 7 12:29:01 2004 From: raccoonradio@yahoo.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon Jun 7 12:29:10 2004 Subject: No Stanley Cup gm 7 on radio? Message-ID: <20040607162901.86842.qmail@web60810.mail.yahoo.com> According to today's Globe and Herald, there will be no local radio coverage of NHL Stanley Cup Finals game 7 tonight (normally on WWZN 1510). Not sure if this is true or not. I work a night job and reception of WWZN (or distant stations) is tough enough as it is; I would think 1510 would be carrying it, though. Who knows...It's only the deciding game of the whole season, and perhaps the last NHL game for awhile if there's a lockout. From ssmyth@psu.edu Mon Jun 7 14:07:12 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Mon Jun 7 14:07:29 2004 Subject: TV newscast transcripts Message-ID: <200406071807.OAA12158@webmail3.cac.psu.edu> Would anyone here know where one can track down a transcript from a local TV newscast? I understand most stations keep them. Just curious if they're available to the public. From markwats@comcast.net Mon Jun 7 17:20:25 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Mon Jun 7 17:20:31 2004 Subject: TV newscast transcripts References: <200406071807.OAA12158@webmail3.cac.psu.edu> Message-ID: <007101c44cd5$3fb666c0$64f88018@markscomputer> Sean Smyth wrote: > Would anyone here know where one can track down a transcript from a local TV > newscast? I understand most stations keep them. Just curious if they're available to the public. WCAX (Channel 3 Burlington VT) posts transcripts of their daily newscasts on their website www.wcax.com . I don't recall how far back they keep those scripts posted. I don't know of any other stations that post past news scripts off the top of my head. Mark Watson From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Mon Jun 7 17:46:37 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon Jun 7 17:46:43 2004 Subject: TV newscast transcripts In-Reply-To: <007101c44cd5$3fb666c0$64f88018@markscomputer> References: <200406071807.OAA12158@webmail3.cac.psu.edu> <007101c44cd5$3fb666c0$64f88018@markscomputer> Message-ID: <200406072146.i57LkbJN036522@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > WCAX (Channel 3 Burlington VT) posts transcripts of their daily > newscasts on their website www.wcax.com . I suspect you will find that these are not actually transcripts, but rather, scripts. That's what most of the stations that do it do, so far as I've seen. If the station does live captioning, they may put up the caption text, which has the problem that the caption operator may blow off large chunks of text when running too far behind the sound. -GAWollman From scott@fybush.com Mon Jun 7 18:10:13 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon Jun 7 18:10:16 2004 Subject: TV newscast transcripts In-Reply-To: <200406072146.i57LkbJN036522@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <200406071807.OAA12158@webmail3.cac.psu.edu> <007101c44cd5$3fb666c0$64f88018@markscomputer> <200406072146.i57LkbJN036522@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <41332.66.36.29.157.1086646213.squirrel@66.36.29.157> > < > said: > >> WCAX (Channel 3 Burlington VT) posts transcripts of their daily >> newscasts on their website www.wcax.com . > > I suspect you will find that these are not actually transcripts, but > rather, scripts. That is indeed what WCAX does. For Boston-market stations, there's a service in Watertown that monitors and sells tapes and transcripts, but I can't for the life of me remember what it's called. A quick call to any of the Boston newsrooms should turn it up; I remember that we always kept the number handy by the desk at WBZ for the many calls that would come in. s From fox893@yahoo.com Tue Jun 8 08:37:06 2004 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Tue Jun 8 08:37:15 2004 Subject: TV newscast transcripts In-Reply-To: <200406072146.i57LkbJN036522@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <20040608123706.8504.qmail@web61110.mail.yahoo.com> They are scripts... Not sure what they do now, but a station I worked for in the area used to grab those to read as their morning news. > I suspect you will find that these are not actually > transcripts, but > rather, scripts. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ From raccoonradio@yahoo.com Tue Jun 8 12:56:35 2004 From: raccoonradio@yahoo.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue Jun 8 12:56:50 2004 Subject: Numbers for call letter signs? Message-ID: <20040608165635.71017.qmail@web60805.mail.yahoo.com> Noticed the following listed on 100000watts.com's Burlington/Plattsburg FM page: 48691 88.7 MHz Format: cp-new Licensed: Rouses Point, NY 78628 90.9 MHz Format: cp-new Licensed: Schuyler Falls, NY Probably translators, yes, but is this how call "letter" signs are being issued for them? All numbers? (or maybe that's just a reference number for the FCC database, for each station?) From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Tue Jun 8 13:00:01 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue Jun 8 13:00:05 2004 Subject: Numbers for call letter signs? In-Reply-To: <20040608165635.71017.qmail@web60805.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040608165635.71017.qmail@web60805.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200406081700.i58H0106042292@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > Probably translators, yes, but is this how call > "letter" signs are being issued for them? All numbers? > (or maybe that's just a reference number for the FCC > database, for each station?) Those are not translators. The numbers you see are facility ID numbers. In the FCC database, the "callsign" for new facilities is generally filled in with either the application reference number, or the text "NEW", until a callsign is applied for. -GAWollman From sid@wrko.com Tue Jun 8 13:10:43 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Tue Jun 8 13:13:08 2004 Subject: Numbers for call letter signs? Message-ID: >>Noticed the following listed on 100000watts.com's Burlington/Plattsburg FM page: 48691 88.7 MHz Format: cp-new Licensed: Rouses Point, NY 78628 90.9 MHz Format: cp-new Licensed: Schuyler Falls, NY Probably translators, yes, but is this how call "letter" signs are being issued for them? All numbers? (or maybe that's just a reference number for the FCC database, for each station?)<< The FCC now issues a "facility ID" number to all stations, to be referenced on any official correspondence including application forms. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From raccoonradio@yahoo.com Tue Jun 8 14:46:20 2004 From: raccoonradio@yahoo.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue Jun 8 14:46:32 2004 Subject: Numbers for call letter signs? In-Reply-To: <200406081700.i58H0106042292@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <20040608184620.20483.qmail@web60801.mail.yahoo.com> > Those are not translators. The numbers you see are > facility ID > numbers. In the FCC database, the "callsign" for > new facilities is > generally filled in with either the application > reference number, or > the text "NEW", until a callsign is applied for. Oh, OK; thanks Garrett and Sid! Yes I figured they may have been reference numbers for the FCC database but I thought maybe the FCC had changed the "call sign" rules for translators. So once the calls are applied for and then granted, they would be like W242AA(FM), the WGBH translator at 96.3 or W267AI(FM), the WFNX translator at 101.3 (in terms of a letter, three numbers, and then two more letters) in the call signs... By the way I noticed that 100000watts.com wasn't listing the aforementioned (WGBH, WFNX) translators anymore From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Tue Jun 8 14:47:34 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue Jun 8 14:47:36 2004 Subject: Numbers for call letter signs? In-Reply-To: <20040608184620.20483.qmail@web60801.mail.yahoo.com> References: <200406081700.i58H0106042292@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <20040608184620.20483.qmail@web60801.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200406081847.i58IlYYX042764@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > sign" rules for translators. So once the calls > are applied for and then granted, they would be like > W242AA(FM), the WGBH translator at 96.3 or > W267AI(FM), the WFNX translator at 101.3 (in terms > of a letter, three numbers, and then two more > letters) in the call signs... No, because the construction permits you mentioned are not translators. Translators are assigned callsigns when the permit is granted. -GAWollman From scott@fybush.com Tue Jun 8 15:25:22 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue Jun 8 15:25:27 2004 Subject: Numbers for call letter signs? Message-ID: <34475.66.36.29.157.1086722722.squirrel@66.36.29.157> > By the way I noticed that 100000watts.com wasn't > listing the aforementioned (WGBH, WFNX) translators > anymore That's correct. Even in the Chip era, 100kw never listed every translator, just a select handful of "important" ones. And there are just too danged many of the little noisemaking pests out there for anyone but Bruce Elving to keep track of anymore. Just for starters, there's nowhere in CDBS that lists the alleged primary station for each of the new translators - you have to go to the actual application to see what station they proposed to translate, and of course there's no requirement that the translator stick with that primary station when it actually gets on the air. (cf. W254AJ 98.7 in Erie PA, now for sale by Bible Broadcasting Network to anyone with $75,000 to waste. Its application said it would pick up WGOJ 105.5 Conneaut OH over the air, an eminently possible feat - but according to FMedia!, it's translating WYFG 91.1 Gaffney SC via satellite, which is not supposed to be happening, at least not legally.) From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Jun 8 17:12:58 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Jun 8 17:13:18 2004 Subject: WBUR - WNYC Swap? Message-ID: As the formerly reclusive Dave Faneuf pointed out, WNYC Radio's "On the Media" has reappeared on WBUR. Last night (06/07), as WBUR's "On Point" ended, host Tom Ashbrook welcomed new listeners to the show on WNYC in The Apple. (It's on WNYC-AM 820 only for now.) Is there a new spirit of cooperation between WBUR and the WNYC stations? Could more fare from 90.9 be heard in Gotham, while programming from WNYC appears here? Worth watching, er, listening. ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From n1qgs@yahoo.com Tue Jun 8 17:41:32 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Tue Jun 8 17:41:36 2004 Subject: No Stanley Cup gm 7 on radio? In-Reply-To: <20040607162901.86842.qmail@web60810.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040608214132.6308.qmail@web12502.mail.yahoo.com> --- Bob Nelson wrote: > According to today's Globe and Herald, there will be > no local radio coverage of NHL Stanley Cup Finals > game 7 tonight (normally on WWZN 1510). > WSMN 1590 Nashua carried the game from Westwood One. John Derry NH ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Tue Jun 8 22:31:55 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Tue Jun 8 22:32:02 2004 Subject: Rick Dee's says goodbye.... Message-ID: <20040609023155.30784.qmail@web52305.mail.yahoo.com> If anyone is interested in hearing the Rick Dee's "Goodbye Montage"...I believe this is the link for it: http://www.rick.com/audio/dynasx.php?SRC=goodbyemontage.wma ===== Joe Pappalardo joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Jun 9 01:09:12 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed Jun 9 01:08:37 2004 Subject: President's Radio Address Message-ID: <40C66338.9253.5631C0@localhost> I don't think I've seen it mentioned in all the coverage in memory of President Ronald Reagan, but I believe he was the one who began the custom of the President's weekly radio address, which subsequent Presidents have continued. Which reminds me, does any station in the Boston area carry the President's weekly radio address? Does any station anywhere carry it? Do the stations carrying the address change when a new President brings a different political orientation? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From ssmyth@psu.edu Wed Jun 9 01:39:11 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Wed Jun 9 01:39:21 2004 Subject: President's Radio Address Message-ID: <200406090539.BAA28573@webmail12.cac.psu.edu> On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 01:09:12 +0000, "A. Joseph Ross" wrote: > I don't think I've seen it mentioned in all the coverage in memory of President Ronald > Reagan, but I believe he was the one who began the custom of the President's weekly radio > address, which subsequent Presidents have continued. I remember hearing some dude named FDR did it, too. (They were weekly, were they not?) > Which reminds me, does any station in the Boston area carry the President's weekly radio > address? Does any station anywhere carry it? Do the stations carrying the address change > when a new President brings a different political orientation? Bush I stopped the tradition of the weekly radio address, and Clinton brought it back to life. WBZ airs it, and ISTR WBUR doing the same. From raccoonradio@yahoo.com Wed Jun 9 02:59:47 2004 From: raccoonradio@yahoo.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Jun 9 02:59:56 2004 Subject: President's Radio Address In-Reply-To: <200406090539.BAA28573@webmail12.cac.psu.edu> Message-ID: <20040609065947.63559.qmail@web60805.mail.yahoo.com> > Bush I stopped the tradition of the weekly radio > address, and Clinton brought it > back to life. WBZ airs it, and ISTR WBUR doing the > same. WRKO was running it for awhile, too, and probably still does. From billo@shoreham.net Wed Jun 9 07:48:15 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed Jun 9 07:48:31 2004 Subject: President's Radio Address In-Reply-To: <40C66338.9253.5631C0@localhost> Message-ID: <000c01c44e17$a6ebc4a0$0300a8c0@boneill> Joe writes: > Which reminds me, does any station in the Boston area carry > the President's weekly radio > address? Does any station anywhere carry it? Do the > stations carrying the address change > when a new President brings a different political orientation? I know that I hear it here in the Burl/Plat market but will find out where. I am sure that we also hear the Democratic response, which has been Senator Kerry, of late. I think WGY carries the weekly, as well. Bill O'Neill Shoreham, VT From hmadjid@yahoo.com Wed Jun 9 10:12:22 2004 From: hmadjid@yahoo.com (Hakim Madjid) Date: Wed Jun 9 10:12:24 2004 Subject: WBIX sold... Message-ID: <20040609141222.598.qmail@web80009.mail.yahoo.com> According to the business section of today's Boston Globe, (Wednesday 6/9/04), WBIX 1060 has been sold by Bleidts. The lucky buyer is one Chris Egan, the offspring of EMC's co founder Richard Egan. Globe Reporter Wendy Lee writes: "Egan, the president and cofounder of Carruth Capital LLC, a commercial real estate management and investment company, said he plans to expand the station's 15 hours of daytime broadcasting to 24 hours a day by this fall. Egan said he plans to hire more salespeople and launch a summer and fall marketing program, which will target the business community through breakfasts and financial planning seminars." OKAAAAYYYY... The one part I remain skeptical about is the 24 hour operation. Then again given the elder Egan's strong ties to the Bush administration (Egan Sr. is a big GOP/Bush backer, and was appointed Ambassador to Ireland for his efforts. Currently, the elder Egan currently serves on some sort of Presidential technology adisory panel) ya never know...doesn't hurt to have friends in high places... ===== 73, de Hakim (N1ZFF) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Jun 9 10:37:37 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed Jun 9 10:38:27 2004 Subject: WBIX sold... References: <20040609141222.598.qmail@web80009.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001301c44e2f$6872cd00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> The 24-hour facilities are at least partially built. The expiration of the CP has been "tolled," a legal term meaning that the clock has been stopped--which was essential because the official expiration occurred almost a year ago. Rumor has it that WAMG 890, from whose site 1060 will operate at night, has been doing proofs to establish that the work done so far for 1060 has not materially affected the 890 patterns. It must be six months ago now, that the WBIX Web site posted an "album" of 17 photos of the construction work done at the site in preparation for the diplex. From the photos, I'd guess that Alex Langer and the Bleidts have spent at least $500,000 on the facilities--and that doesn't count legal and engineering fees. Several months back, the station was regularly airing announcements that said, "if you are experiencing difficulty with reception, it is because our engineers are working on our new night signal." Similar announcements had aired months earlier when soil-conductivity measurements were probably being made. During the second round of announcements, I never heard the station operating at reduced power. Mark Mills has said on his PM-drive show that the night signal would be on by fall--but then, that's what the station had said for the last three years. So my question is the fall of what year? The reason that the 2500W night operation may now be feasible whereas it was not for the 15 or so years that a succession of owners tried to make it work is that the FCC has changed the formulas for calculating the protected contours of Class A AMs, such as KYW, which is the dominant station on 1060. The new contours encompass much less area than the old ones did. Hence WBIX need not tune its night array quite as closely as was previously required. Still, if you look at the proposed (unaugmented) pattern, radiation must be suppressed over an arc of almost 180 degrees. In the deepest minima, the equivalent power is only about 800 MICROwatts. Needless to say, the augmented equivalent power will be a lot greater. Based on the fact that the station at one time had applied for or held a CP for 3.3W ND night, my guess is that if the augmented power is in the vicinity of 3.3W, the station will eventually get a license to cover. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Hakim Madjid To: Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 10:12 AM Subject: WBIX sold... > According to the business section of today's Boston > Globe, (Wednesday 6/9/04), WBIX 1060 has been sold by > Bleidts. The lucky buyer is one Chris Egan, the > offspring of EMC's co founder Richard Egan. > > Globe Reporter Wendy Lee writes: > > "Egan, the president and cofounder of Carruth Capital > LLC, a commercial real estate management and > investment company, said he plans to expand the > station's 15 hours of daytime broadcasting to 24 hours > a day by this fall. Egan said he plans to hire more > salespeople and launch a summer and fall marketing > program, which will target the business community > through breakfasts and financial planning seminars." > > OKAAAAYYYY... > > The one part I remain skeptical about is the 24 hour > operation. Then again given the elder Egan's strong > ties to the Bush administration (Egan Sr. is a big > GOP/Bush backer, and was appointed Ambassador to > Ireland for his efforts. Currently, the elder Egan > currently serves on some sort of Presidential > technology adisory panel) ya never know...doesn't hurt > to have friends in high places... > > > > > ===== > 73, de Hakim (N1ZFF) > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ From kvahey@tmail.com Wed Jun 9 12:15:58 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Wed Jun 9 12:16:24 2004 Subject: Where are they now Janet Langhart Cohen Message-ID: <1086797763.341104BD@w37.dngr.org> Chicago paper profiles former Good Day host Janet Langhart Cohen. WCVB took a big risk when she was hired in 1973 and along with Terry Carter opened the doors to many African Americans on Boston TV. http://www.suntimes.com/output/lifestyles/cst-ftr-cohen09.html From kc1ih@mac.com Wed Jun 9 12:35:53 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Wed Jun 9 12:36:10 2004 Subject: President's Radio Address In-Reply-To: <40C66338.9253.5631C0@localhost> References: <40C66338.9253.5631C0@localhost> Message-ID: At 1:09 AM -0400 6/9/04, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >I don't think I've seen it mentioned in all the coverage in memory >of President Ronald >Reagan, but I believe he was the one who began the custom of the >President's weekly radio >address, which subsequent Presidents have continued. I thought that went back to FDR, although JFK may have suspended them when he did the weekly TV press conferences. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From francini@mac.com Wed Jun 9 14:08:58 2004 From: francini@mac.com (francini@mac.com) Date: Wed Jun 9 14:09:11 2004 Subject: Where are they now Janet Langhart Cohen In-Reply-To: <1086797763.341104BD@w37.dngr.org> References: <1086797763.341104BD@w37.dngr.org> Message-ID: <145459FE-BA40-11D8-969E-000A95A0515A@mac.com> Gee, I remember her! I was but 13 then... Wasn't she one of the co-hosts of the old "Good Morning!" TV show? On the idea of "where are they now", there's a (mostly) radio host on WHDH I'm trying to find some info about -- Hank Forbes. He used to do evenings on WHDH-850, and he'd often do the (live) legal IDs on WHDH-TV 5 (before the Boston Broadcasting takeover). Any idea where he might be? John On Jun 9, 2004, at 12:15 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Chicago paper profiles former Good Day host Janet Langhart Cohen. > > WCVB took a big risk when she was hired in 1973 and along with Terry > Carter opened the doors to many African Americans on Boston TV. > > http://www.suntimes.com/output/lifestyles/cst-ftr-cohen09.html From nuhuc@juno.com Wed Jun 9 14:22:09 2004 From: nuhuc@juno.com (nuhuc@juno.com) Date: Wed Jun 9 14:24:12 2004 Subject: President's Radio Address Message-ID: <20040609.112229.4389.80557@webmail21.lax.untd.com> -- Larry Weil wrote: >>I thought that went back to FDR, although JFK may have suspended them when he did the weekly TV press conferences.<< I'm not sure if the FDR "Fireside Chats" were a weekly occurance or not. But if I recall correctly, Reagan started the regular weekly radio addresses because he loved radio, and had worked in radio in his early years. RIP, RMR. -Rick Kelly www.northeastairchecks.com ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! From oldradio@earthlink.net Wed Jun 9 15:41:07 2004 From: oldradio@earthlink.net (RBB) Date: Wed Jun 9 15:41:12 2004 Subject: Hank Forbes References: <1086797763.341104BD@w37.dngr.org> <145459FE-BA40-11D8-969E-000A95A0515A@mac.com> Message-ID: <273201c44e59$b64caa30$1220bb3f@S0031698896> << ...and, that reminds me when Norm Prescott was on WORL 950. Anyone have airchecks of Norm, his custom theme song "Come One, Come All" or any of the WORL personalities from the 1950's for that matter? Thanks for the reply. =Russ Butler oldradio@earthlink.net From paul@03038.com Wed Jun 9 16:36:52 2004 From: paul@03038.com (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Wed Jun 9 16:32:41 2004 Subject: President's Radio Address In-Reply-To: <20040609.112229.4389.80557@webmail21.lax.untd.com> Message-ID: <002d01c44e61$9ec01840$0e87fea9@q0002> Rick: Thats RWR! (Wilson) Indeed...RIP RWR! -Paul Hopfgarten -East Derry NH -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org]On Behalf Of nuhuc@juno.com Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 2:22 PM To: kc1ih@mac.com Cc: boston-radio-interest@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: President's Radio Address -- Larry Weil wrote: >>I thought that went back to FDR, although JFK may have suspended them when he did the weekly TV press conferences.<< I'm not sure if the FDR "Fireside Chats" were a weekly occurance or not. But if I recall correctly, Reagan started the regular weekly radio addresses because he loved radio, and had worked in radio in his early years. RIP, RMR. -Rick Kelly www.northeastairchecks.com ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Jun 9 17:03:01 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed Jun 9 17:03:19 2004 Subject: President's Radio Address Message-ID: >DATE: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 16:36:52 >From: "Paul Hopfgarten" >To: , >Cc: boston-radio-interest@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu >Rick: Thats RWR! (Wilson) > >Indeed...RIP RWR! > >-Paul Hopfgarten >-East Derry NH > > Let's see, there are 6 letters in 'Ronald' there are 6 letters in 'Wilson' and there are 6 letters in 'Reagan'. That's 6-6-6. No wonder there were so many people "demonizing" him while he was in office! ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Jun 9 17:13:27 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed Jun 9 17:13:53 2004 Subject: Pour A Cup Of Coffee...This Will Take A While Message-ID: It's not often that a nationally-distributed general-interest magazine features a story about RADIO on its cover, but "The Weekly Standard" did just that this week. The story's title refers to the disappearance of music from public radio, but in the body of a somewhat l-o-n-g article, there's a summary of what has happened to Public Radio in the last decade and a half. If you're at all interested, you may wish to print it out rather than read it online, then perhaps take it to the smallest room in your home. The URL is: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/184uadtr.asp ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Jun 10 01:07:27 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Jun 10 01:07:22 2004 Subject: President's Radio Address In-Reply-To: <40C71930.9080708@biochem.bumc.bu.edu> References: <40C66338.9253.5631C0@localhost> Message-ID: <40C7B44F.1859.7DB279@localhost> On 9 Jun 2004 at 10:05, Tony Abruzzese wrote: > WTKK 96.9 (Boston) airs both the president's address and the Dems' > response . And there's another question -- just when did the opposition party's regular response begin? Did it happen immediately or later? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Jun 10 01:07:28 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Jun 10 01:07:30 2004 Subject: President's Radio Address In-Reply-To: <200406090539.BAA28573@webmail12.cac.psu.edu> Message-ID: <40C7B450.26653.7DB364@localhost> On 9 Jun 2004 at 1:39, Sean Smyth wrote: > I remember hearing some dude named FDR did it, too. (They were weekly, > were they not?) I don't know that they were a regular weekly occurrence. I don't believe any Presidents after Roosevelt did specifically radio addresses until Reagan. > Bush I stopped the tradition of the weekly radio address, and Clinton > brought it back to life. WBZ airs it, and ISTR WBUR doing the same. I didn't know that Bush I had stopped doing it. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From hmadjid@yahoo.com Thu Jun 10 11:38:29 2004 From: hmadjid@yahoo.com (Hakim Madjid) Date: Thu Jun 10 11:38:31 2004 Subject: WBIX sold... In-Reply-To: <001301c44e2f$6872cd00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <20040610153829.92558.qmail@web80005.mail.yahoo.com> --- Dan Strassberg wrote: > Mark Mills has said on his PM-drive > show that the night > signal would be on by fall--but then, that's what > the station had said for > the last three years. So my question is the fall of > what year? That's exactly my point. Count me as being from Missouri on the 1060 night-time signal. As you point it's going to be Real Soon Now for the past 3 or 4 years. ===== 73, de Hakim (N1ZFF) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ From brian_vita@cssinc.com Thu Jun 10 15:54:36 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Thu Jun 10 15:54:45 2004 Subject: Ray Charles RIP Message-ID: <000401c44f24$c2794180$c3ec33d1@alvin> MUSIC LEGEND RAY CHARLES DIES AT 73 From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Jun 11 16:25:29 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri Jun 11 16:26:34 2004 Subject: WBIX changes "ownership statement" Message-ID: <000a01c44ff2$56ea6ba0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I noticed today that the mini "ownership statement" adjacent to WBIX's TOH legal ID now says "locally owned and operated, a service of Egan Communications... Perspectives Broadcasting." The only part of this that's new is "a service of Egan Communications." And having that name appear just before what I thought was the name of the owner is certainly confusing. The guy who allegedly bought control of the station from the Bleidts is an Egan--related to the EMC Egan who is so chummy with GW Bush, but I've seen nothing yet in the FCC Daily Digest that indicates that an application for transfer of control has even been accepted for filing by the FCC--much less been granted. Of course, I might have missed an item in the Digest. Now, there may be nothing illegal about putting in a few words about a station's prospective new owner adjacent to a legal ID, but this new wording may mean that Egan is already operating WBIX under an LMA. The FCC Daily digest doesn't report on LMAs. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 From ssmyth@psu.edu Fri Jun 11 16:51:09 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri Jun 11 16:51:22 2004 Subject: WBIX changes "ownership statement" Message-ID: <200406112051.QAA22587@webmail11.cac.psu.edu> On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 16:25:29 +0000, "Dan Strassberg" wrote: > Of course, I might have missed an item in the Digest. Now, > there may be nothing illegal about putting in a few words about a station's > prospective new owner adjacent to a legal ID, but this new wording may mean > that Egan is already operating WBIX under an LMA. The FCC Daily digest > doesn't report on LMAs. That's what I was just going to say. A radio show could be the "service of Smyth Sports" even if I don't own the station upon which the show airs (in fact, Jibguy wanted something like this introing and leading out of my old sports show on WJIB). A touch different deal here, but I imagine the Bleidts wanted to land the station in Egan's hands (and start collecting some LMA cash) before he decided to reconsider... so they were all the more happy to hand the station over ASAP. From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Jun 12 00:22:10 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Jun 12 00:21:56 2004 Subject: WBIX changes "ownership statement" In-Reply-To: <200406112051.QAA22587@webmail11.cac.psu.edu> Message-ID: <40CA4CB2.8354.2A9311@localhost> On 11 Jun 2004 at 16:51, Sean Smyth wrote: > That's what I was just going to say. A radio show could be the "service of > Smyth Sports" even if I don't own the station upon which the show airs (in > fact, Jibguy wanted something like this introing and leading out of my old > sports show on WJIB). A touch different deal here, A sports show on WJIB??? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Jun 13 15:02:34 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun Jun 13 15:02:55 2004 Subject: "Meet the Press" on WTKK Message-ID: WTKK-FM 96.9 has been making a big deal about its carriage of the audio of NBC-TV's "Meet the Press". I happened to hear a portion of it today (06/13) and noticed that the station seems to be short-changing listeners. First it joined the show in progress after headlines from CNN; then after about ten minutes of Tim Russert's interview with Colin Powell, WTKK abruptly broke away for spots and promotional announcements, then rejoined "MtP" once again in-progress. I intend to check the rerun tonight on CNBC to see if the televised interview had any interruptions at all during the Colin Powell confab. If not, it seems to me that WTKK is being unprofessional in the way it packages and promotes "Meet the Press" on radio. ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From gary@garysicecream.com Sun Jun 13 23:19:09 2004 From: gary@garysicecream.com (gic) Date: Sun Jun 13 23:19:22 2004 Subject: Noise during Ch 7 news at 11 Message-ID: <000701c451be$5becacd0$6500a8c0@office> Did anyone catch the News at 11 on Ch 7 tonight. During the weather there was so much background noise - talking, laughing, yelling, etc that you could barely pay attention to the weather person. -Gary's Ice Cream Chelmsford, MA www.garysicecream.com From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Jun 14 06:33:05 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Mon Jun 14 06:33:10 2004 Subject: "Meet the Press" on WTKK References: Message-ID: <002201c451fa$fa817b00$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> WGAN is also now running "Meet the Press" at noon on Sunday. Am I the only one that thinks running this show on the radio is an odd choice? It's not like any of the Sunday morning news shows are ratings powerhouses. Are there that many people who do not watch the show on NBC (or the replay on MSNBC) who will listen on the radio? -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Jun 14 16:46:03 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon Jun 14 16:46:26 2004 Subject: "Meet the Press" on WTKK Message-ID: >DATE: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 06:33:05 >From: "Dan Billings" >To: Cc: >WGAN is also now running "Meet the Press" at noon on Sunday. > >Am I the only one that thinks running this show on the radio is an odd >choice? It's not like any of the Sunday morning news shows are ratings >powerhouses. Are there that many people who do not watch the show on NBC >(or the replay on MSNBC) who will listen on the radio? > >-- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine > > On this occasion (namely yesterday) I didn't get around to shaving and showering until noon, and caught this particular airing as advertised. When I'm home on Sundays, I don't get around to "MtP" until the 10:00 pm CNBC telecast, there's the slight matter of "On The Media" on NH Public Radio at 10:00 am and LTAR at 11:00. The syndicator must believe there's a market for it, and of course it's easier to "multi-task" with radio, including driving than with TV. It's possible that the syndicator is responsible for the cut-in during the Colin Powell interview...on TV that same night, the Colin Powell segment was completely uninterrupted from the top of the hour till 10:25 pm. ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Jun 14 19:55:42 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon Jun 14 19:55:55 2004 Subject: "Meet the Press" on WTKK In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 4:46 PM -0400 6/14/04, Laurence Glavin wrote: > > >On this occasion (namely yesterday) I didn't get >around to shaving and showering until noon, This is more information than we need! :-) -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From billo@shoreham.net Mon Jun 14 21:17:36 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon Jun 14 21:17:49 2004 Subject: C(linton)BS Message-ID: <000901c45276$8b51d0f0$0300a8c0@boneill> Drudge is reporting that CBS is doing a 'must carry' for it's O&Os on a one hour Clinton book promotion live talk show. Some reax from chiefs that they'd prefer that Clinton actually buy the time. There'll be local avails, it seems. Bill O'Neill From lawyer@attorneyross.com Mon Jun 14 23:40:12 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon Jun 14 23:39:50 2004 Subject: "Meet the Press" on WTKK In-Reply-To: <002201c451fa$fa817b00$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <40CE375C.4852.667180@localhost> On 14 Jun 2004 at 6:33, Dan Billings wrote: > Am I the only one that thinks running this show on the radio is an odd > choice? It's not like any of the Sunday morning news shows are ratings > powerhouses. Are there that many people who do not watch the show on NBC > (or the replay on MSNBC) who will listen on the radio? Interesting, since I believe "Meet the Press" started on radio. In any event, it was on both radio and TV for many years. I imagine that there may be many people who might be working and be able to have a radio on, but not a TV. Or people who might listen while driving in their car. I've occasionally caught "60 Minutes" on WBZ while in my car, and I listen if they're doing something I find interesting. For that matter, if you compare "Meet the Press" with many things on public radio, I think it's obvious that the audience is there. Whether, without seeing advertising, they'll find a program like "Meet the Press" on a station other than WGBH or WBUR is another matter. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Mon Jun 14 23:40:12 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon Jun 14 23:41:08 2004 Subject: C(linton)BS In-Reply-To: <000901c45276$8b51d0f0$0300a8c0@boneill> Message-ID: <40CE375C.21010.666EAB@localhost> On 14 Jun 2004 at 21:17, Bill O'Neill wrote: > Drudge is reporting that CBS is doing a 'must carry' for it's O&Os on a > one hour Clinton book promotion live talk show. Some reax from chiefs > that they'd prefer that Clinton actually buy the time. There'll be local > avails, it seems. When? And which Clinton? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From billo@shoreham.net Tue Jun 15 14:57:40 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue Jun 15 14:57:47 2004 Subject: C(linton)BS In-Reply-To: <40CE375C.21010.666EAB@localhost> Message-ID: <000801c4530a$a2d87690$0300a8c0@boneill> > When? And which Clinton? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. That would be Pres. Clinton and not sure of the date of the program. Even President Bush's unveiling speech (Clinton portraits) included a plug for the new book. The first printing, yet to be released, is already sold-out. Looks like Clinton's hefty advance from the publisher could be just gas money. Havn't heard of any feedback from Viacom stations. Perhaps they'll see it as a plus? Bill O'Neill From brian_vita@cssinc.com Tue Jun 15 15:33:42 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Tue Jun 15 15:34:17 2004 Subject: C(linton)BS In-Reply-To: <000801c4530a$a2d87690$0300a8c0@boneill> Message-ID: <000401c4530f$adb2af40$c3ec33d1@alvin> I think that the plan is to hype Clinton to suck all of the O2 out of Kerry's campaigning. It could only help Bush. Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA +1-978-538-7575 voice +1-978-538-7550 fax www.cssinc.com > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of Bill O'Neill > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 2:58 PM > To: 'A. Joseph Ross'; 'Boston Radio Interest EE-mail"' > Subject: RE: C(linton)BS > > > > When? And which Clinton? > > > > -- > > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. > > That would be Pres. Clinton and not sure of the date of the > program. Even President Bush's unveiling speech (Clinton > portraits) included a plug for the new book. The first > printing, yet to be released, is already sold-out. Looks > like Clinton's hefty advance from the publisher could be just > gas money. > > Havn't heard of any feedback from Viacom stations. Perhaps > they'll see it as a plus? > > Bill O'Neill > From markwats@comcast.net Tue Jun 15 16:34:27 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Tue Jun 15 16:33:52 2004 Subject: WNBP GM Al Mozier Has Passed Away Message-ID: <004101c45318$278f4dc0$64f88018@markscomputer> I just found out that WNBP (1450 Newburyport MA) General Manager Al Mozier passed away this morning at the age of 63 after a short illness. Talking to the person who filled me in with this news, one of his early stops in radio was as music director at WMEX in the late 50's or early 60's, after starting his career at WNBP shortly after they signed on in 1957, working with Bob "Doc" Fuller, who now owns WNBP. After leaving radio for a while to serve his country in the Army and then teaching at a Catholic school in Newburyport, he got back in the business as a VP for Fuller/Jeffrey Broadcasting. He joined WNBP again in 1998 when 'Doc" Fuller purchased the station from Win Damon. May he rest in peace. Mark Watson From ssmyth@psu.edu Tue Jun 15 16:48:13 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Tue Jun 15 16:48:22 2004 Subject: WNBP GM Al Mozier Has Passed Away Message-ID: <200406152048.QAA19272@webmail8.cac.psu.edu> On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 16:34:27 +0000, "Mark Watson" wrote: > I just found out that WNBP (1450 Newburyport MA) General Manager Al > Mozier passed away this morning at the age of 63 after a short illness. On a passing on a non-management level in the broadcast world: Tom Fitzgerald, former Quincy High School football coach and at one time football color commentator at WJDA (1300 Quincy), passed away yesterday at 77. From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Jun 15 17:00:33 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Jun 15 17:00:54 2004 Subject: "Meet the Press" on WTKK Message-ID: >DATE: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:55:42 >From: Larry Weil >To: lglavin@lycos.com, boston-radio->interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org,Dan Billings >At 4:46 PM -0400 6/14/04, Laurence Glavin wrote: >> > >>On this occasion (namely yesterday) I didn't get >>around to shaving and showering until noon, > >This is more information than we need! :-) > >-- >Larry Weil >Lake Wobegone, NH > I have a sad story to tell you, it may hurt your feelings a bit; last night when I walked into my bathroom, I stepped in a big pile of... Shaaaving cream, be nice and clean shave every day and you'll always look keen! ____________________________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From n1qgs@yahoo.com Tue Jun 15 17:09:23 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Tue Jun 15 17:09:35 2004 Subject: Noise during Ch 7 news at 11 In-Reply-To: <000701c451be$5becacd0$6500a8c0@office> Message-ID: <20040615210923.52797.qmail@web12503.mail.yahoo.com> > Did anyone catch the News at 11 on Ch 7 tonight. During the weather > there > was so much background noise - talking, laughing, yelling, etc that you > could barely pay attention to the weather person. > It must be a new trend. During ABC news coverage of Reagan's death (on the Saturday it happened), there was much background noise that seemed to coincide with what was happening during the running Belmont Stakes (on NBC!). When the favorite was passed on the back stretched, the noise level got very high followed by a loud SSSSHHHHHHH. John Derry ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From wftn@comcast.net Tue Jun 15 17:30:12 2004 From: wftn@comcast.net (wftn@comcast.net) Date: Tue Jun 15 17:30:18 2004 Subject: "Meet the Press" on WTKK Message-ID: <061520042130.5228.40CF6A640001532C0000146C2200745672029B0099@comcast.net> Laurence, You just couldn't resist, could ya? You just couldn't! Anyway, a great novelty tune from the 30's by Benny Bell - Shaving Cream! Gary Ford WFTN-FM > > > I have a sad story to tell you, > it may hurt your feelings a bit; > last night when I walked into my bathroom, > I stepped in a big pile of... > Shaaaving cream, be nice and clean > shave every day and you'll always look keen! > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC > =lycos10 From dmoisan@davidmoisan.org Tue Jun 15 19:01:38 2004 From: dmoisan@davidmoisan.org (David Moisan) Date: Tue Jun 15 19:01:38 2004 Subject: Shaving Cream! In-Reply-To: <061520042130.5228.40CF6A640001532C0000146C2200745672029B00 99@comcast.net> References: <061520042130.5228.40CF6A640001532C0000146C2200745672029B0099@comcast.net> Message-ID: <6.1.1.1.1.20040615185733.01e46898@incoming.verizon.net> > > Shaaaving cream, be nice and clean > > shave every day and you'll always look keen! > > And these lyrics by Dr. D. to keep it on topic: "When broadcasting over the radio, There are certain words we must omit. Like and and . My gosh, we can't even say Shaving Cream! Shaving Cream, be nice and clean Shave every day and you'll always look keen!" Take care, Dave David Moisan, N1KGH ARES/SKYWARN dmoisan@davidmoisan.org Invisible Disability: http://www.davidmoisan.org/invisible_disability.html ATS-909 FAQ: http://www.davidmoisan.org/radio/sangean/ats909faq.html From dmoisan@davidmoisan.org Tue Jun 15 19:01:38 2004 From: dmoisan@davidmoisan.org (David Moisan) Date: Tue Jun 15 19:01:39 2004 Subject: Shaving Cream! In-Reply-To: <061520042130.5228.40CF6A640001532C0000146C2200745672029B00 99@comcast.net> References: <061520042130.5228.40CF6A640001532C0000146C2200745672029B0099@comcast.net> Message-ID: <6.1.1.1.1.20040615185733.01e46898@incoming.verizon.net> > > Shaaaving cream, be nice and clean > > shave every day and you'll always look keen! > > And these lyrics by Dr. D. to keep it on topic: "When broadcasting over the radio, There are certain words we must omit. Like and and . My gosh, we can't even say Shaving Cream! Shaving Cream, be nice and clean Shave every day and you'll always look keen!" Take care, Dave David Moisan, N1KGH ARES/SKYWARN dmoisan@davidmoisan.org Invisible Disability: http://www.davidmoisan.org/invisible_disability.html ATS-909 FAQ: http://www.davidmoisan.org/radio/sangean/ats909faq.html From paulranderson@charter.net Tue Jun 15 21:30:17 2004 From: paulranderson@charter.net (Paul Anderson) Date: Tue Jun 15 21:36:03 2004 Subject: Shaving Cream! In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.1.20040615185733.01e46898@incoming.verizon.net> References: <061520042130.5228.40CF6A640001532C0000146C2200745672029B0099@comcast.net> <6.1.1.1.1.20040615185733.01e46898@incoming.verizon.net> Message-ID: All this talk of Shaving Cream made me remember I think I heard the S word on WBZ last week. It was Wednesday just before 2 PM and an Epson printer commercial ran twice in a row. I could swear (no pun intended) that I heard someone say "S___!", then "give that back to me!" and then "why don't we run the same commercial twice in a row--what a way to turn off listeners" or something like that. There was also a bit of the top-of-the-hour station sounder before it was cut off. The mike was open for at least thirty seconds during the commercial and part of a news feature too. It's happened to all of us; I was surprised it happened on WBZ. Paul From francini@mac.com Tue Jun 15 23:12:22 2004 From: francini@mac.com (John J. Francini) Date: Tue Jun 15 23:12:30 2004 Subject: WGIR 610 AM - unforgivable mistakes during Red Sox broadcasts... In-Reply-To: References: <061520042130.5228.40CF6A640001532C0000146C2200745672029B0099@comcast.net > <6.1.1.1.1.20040615185733.01e46898@incoming.verizon.net> Message-ID: The past two Red Sox Baseball broadcasts on WGIR-AM 610 Manchester--Sunday and tonight-- have been nothing short of a textbook on how not to do a network broadcast. The problems I've heard include: o Running the broadcast on the 7-second delay used for talk shows, making it impossible to use the audio as a substitute for the TV coverage. o Missing the start of local between-inning commercial breaks, and thus having 30-60 seconds of dead air. And then adding insult to injury by running ALL the local commercials, even though they end up cutting into the broadcast by a minute or more. o Cutting AWAY from the broadcast at 10:00 PM to pick up some sort of top-of-the-hour news program from some satellite network, and then the start of an hour of Art Bell via satellite, and then finally realizing at 10:07 that they screwed up royally and returning to the ball game. o Playing local ads ON TOP OF the game audio. What the hell is going on over there? Is this the sort of scintillating production quality you get when Clear Channel buys a station? The fact that this has gone on during more than one game means one of two possibilities: a) Incompetence. b) Automation problems at the station c) Some sort of protest on the part of the engineering staff of WGIR. Against who? Clear Channel? The Red Sox? If so, I don't care: "a pox on all their houses", as the saying goes. It's a darn good thing that I'm in Nashua and don't _have_ to listen to WGIR; I can get a (mostly) listenable signal on my SuperRadios from WEEI-850 Boston. This is in addition to the fact that WMSN-1590 Nashua, which is still _listed_ as a Red Sox Radio network station, hasn't broadcast a single game this year. Did they drop the contract? Sorry to be so angry-sounding, but it's very frustrating. Having this happen one night is one thing; having it happen over and over again is unforgiveble. John Francini, a frustrated lifelong Red Sox (and radio) fan... P.S. Any way I can complain to station management? The Web site appears to be content-free when it comes to useful contact addresses... -- ---- John Francini +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | "I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is called a disgrace; | | that two are called a law firm; and that three or more become a Congress.| | And by God I have had _this_ Congress!" | | -- John Adams | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kc1ih@mac.com Tue Jun 15 23:36:29 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Tue Jun 15 23:36:36 2004 Subject: WGIR 610 AM - unforgivable mistakes during Red Sox broadcasts... In-Reply-To: References: <061520042130.5228.40CF6A640001532C0000146C2200745672029B0099@comcast.net > <6.1.1.1.1.20040615185733.01e46898@incoming.verizon.net> Message-ID: > >P.S. Any way I can complain to station management? The Web site >appears to be content-free when it comes to useful contact >addresses... Complain to the Red Sox, I'm sure they'de want to know if one of their affiliates is messing up. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From scott@fybush.com Tue Jun 15 23:50:00 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue Jun 15 23:49:43 2004 Subject: WGIR 610 AM - unforgivable mistakes during Red Sox broadcasts... In-Reply-To: References: <061520042130.5228.40CF6A640001532C0000146C2200745672029B0099@comcast.net > <6.1.1.1.1.20040615185733.01e46898@incoming.verizon.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040615234742.027cb778@gwind.pair.com> At 11:36 PM 6/15/2004 -0400, you wrote: >>P.S. Any way I can complain to station management? The Web site appears >>to be content-free when it comes to useful contact addresses... > >Complain to the Red Sox, I'm sure they'de want to know if one of their >affiliates is messing up. Or to WEEI, for that matter. I know at least one (and I think more than one) of their engineering folks is reading this list even as we speak. I suspect any useful contact with WGIR would have to be via snail-mail or telephone. And I do have to speak up for Clear Channel engineering, at least on the corporate level. They do a quality job with their RF plants, and they spend a lot of money to clean up neglected studio plants when they enter a market, too. But when you have 1200 stations in 200 markets, you end up with a lot of local autonomy, and some local managements are clearly better at their jobs than others. s From xradioguy@yahoo.com Wed Jun 16 00:11:48 2004 From: xradioguy@yahoo.com (Ari Alpert) Date: Wed Jun 16 00:12:08 2004 Subject: WGIR 610 AM - unforgivable mistakes during Red Sox broadcasts... In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040615234742.027cb778@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <20040616041148.73437.qmail@web40901.mail.yahoo.com> When the Knights owned WGIR and a relatively large group (at the time) of stations around New England, Scooter and Norm were known to listen often. They were active local owners and you could be sure major screwups by any individual didn't ever happen more than once and the guilty party would have some serious explaining to do. I was a first hand witness to staff being yanked off the air for lesser infractions when I worked for the Knight properties in Worcester. Ari --- Scott Fybush wrote: > But when you have 1200 stations in 200 > markets, you end up > with a lot of local autonomy, and some local > managements are clearly better > at their jobs than others. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From gary@garysicecream.com Wed Jun 16 00:14:44 2004 From: gary@garysicecream.com (gic) Date: Wed Jun 16 00:14:53 2004 Subject: Clear Channel & Automation (was Red Sox in Manchester) References: <061520042130.5228.40CF6A640001532C0000146C2200745672029B0099@comcast.net> <6.1.1.1.1.20040615185733.01e46898@incoming.verizon.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20040615234742.027cb778@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <000e01c45358$745a02e0$6500a8c0@office> When I was in Fla back in January I noticed that the Clear Channel Oldies FM was an automation mess at night. 2 different weeknights it was silent from the 11pm ID til midnite - must have been waiting for a "wait until" command because at midnight it fired off an ID and went on its merry way. On one of the Saturday nites during "Mark Harvey's Supergold Show" (which is based out of this station) - they had network spots playing on top of local ones - the show playing live AND in 7 sec delay all at the same time, etc. It was a train wreck (of Amtrack proportions). At midnite, at the end of the show it all cleaned up and went into automation for the rest of the night. I can't believe no one heard it and fixed it for 3 hours. From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Jun 16 01:04:34 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed Jun 16 01:04:10 2004 Subject: Shaving Cream! In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.1.20040615185733.01e46898@incoming.verizon.net> References: <061520042130.5228.40CF6A640001532C0000146C2200745672029B00 99@comcast.net> Message-ID: <40CF9CA2.3904.680C3D@localhost> On 15 Jun 2004 at 19:01, David Moisan wrote: > "When broadcasting over the radio, > There are certain words we must omit. > Like and and . > My gosh, we can't even say Shaving Cream! > Shaving Cream, be nice and clean > Shave every day and you'll always look keen!" I notice that "Sex in the City" is about to debut on WTBS. Of course, the nudity will be edited out somehow, but I wonder how some of the subject matter and language will be handled. I'm thinking, in particular, about onw episode involving an artist who paints women models -- but only the area between their legs. And the C-word is used quite liberally. I can't imagine how they can edit this and still have it make sense. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Jun 16 01:04:34 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed Jun 16 01:04:15 2004 Subject: C(linton)BS In-Reply-To: <000401c4530f$adb2af40$c3ec33d1@alvin> References: <000801c4530a$a2d87690$0300a8c0@boneill> Message-ID: <40CF9CA2.4360.680BD7@localhost> On 15 Jun 2004 at 15:33, Brian Vita wrote: > I think that the plan is to hype Clinton to suck all of the O2 out of > Kerry's campaigning. It could only help Bush. I don't see that it will have much effect -- I could make a convincing case that it helps Kerry. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Jun 16 01:04:34 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed Jun 16 01:04:17 2004 Subject: Shaving Cream! In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.1.20040615185733.01e46898@incoming.verizon.net> References: <061520042130.5228.40CF6A640001532C0000146C2200745672029B00 99@comcast.net> Message-ID: <40CF9CA2.3904.680C3D@localhost> On 15 Jun 2004 at 19:01, David Moisan wrote: > "When broadcasting over the radio, > There are certain words we must omit. > Like and and . > My gosh, we can't even say Shaving Cream! > Shaving Cream, be nice and clean > Shave every day and you'll always look keen!" I notice that "Sex in the City" is about to debut on WTBS. Of course, the nudity will be edited out somehow, but I wonder how some of the subject matter and language will be handled. I'm thinking, in particular, about onw episode involving an artist who paints women models -- but only the area between their legs. And the C-word is used quite liberally. I can't imagine how they can edit this and still have it make sense. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From scott@fybush.com Wed Jun 16 01:12:23 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed Jun 16 01:12:05 2004 Subject: Shaving Cream! In-Reply-To: <40CF9CA2.3904.680C3D@localhost> References: <6.1.1.1.1.20040615185733.01e46898@incoming.verizon.net> <061520042130.5228.40CF6A640001532C0000146C2200745672029B00 99@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040616011114.027d6080@gwind.pair.com> At 01:04 AM 6/16/2004 -0400, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >I notice that "Sex in the City" is about to debut on WTBS. Of course, the >nudity will be >edited out somehow, but I wonder how some of the subject matter and >language will be >handled. I'm thinking, in particular, about onw episode involving an >artist who paints women >models -- but only the area between their legs. And the C-word is used >quite liberally. I >can't imagine how they can edit this and still have it make sense. From what I've read (I didn't watch the show on HBO and certainly won't bother with the bowdlerized TBS version), alternate versions of certain scenes were shot all through the run of the program, with an eye towards eventual broadcast/basic cable syndication. s From steveord@bit-net.com Wed Jun 16 08:27:07 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Wed Jun 16 08:27:03 2004 Subject: WGIR 610 AM - unforgivable mistakes during Red Sox broadcasts... In-Reply-To: References: <061520042130.5228.40CF6A640001532C0000146C2200745672029B0099@comcast.net > <6.1.1.1.1.20040615185733.01e46898@incoming.verizon.net> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040616081110.01afdd08@pop3.bit-net.com> John J. Francini wrote: >The past two Red Sox Baseball broadcasts on WGIR-AM 610 Manchester--Sunday >and tonight-- have been nothing short of a textbook on how not to do a >network broadcast. > >The problems I've heard include: > >o Running the broadcast on the 7-second delay used for talk shows, making >it impossible to use the audio as a substitute for the TV coverage. I wouldn't necessarily consider this as an error on their part...why should it matter to them if you want to sync up with tv? Once IBOC happens, get used to it. >o Missing the start of local between-inning commercial breaks, and thus >having 30-60 seconds of dead air. And then adding insult to injury by >running ALL the local commercials, even though they end up cutting into >the broadcast by a minute or more. > >o Cutting AWAY from the broadcast at 10:00 PM to pick up some sort of >top-of-the-hour news program from some satellite network, and then the >start of an hour of Art Bell via satellite, and then finally realizing at >10:07 that they screwed up royally and returning to the ball game. > >o Playing local ads ON TOP OF the game audio. > > >What the hell is going on over there? Is this the sort of scintillating >production quality you get when Clear Channel buys a station? The fact >that this has gone on during more than one game means one of two possibilities: Calm down. First of all Clear Channel (or one of it's predecessors) has owned this station for at least 10 years. Last I knew they used board ops for Sox games for this reason...before this year WEEI screwed up so much that automating a game was hit or miss...they used subaudible tones and it was not uncommon for their board op to send the wrong ones. Tones also don't always decode properly either. WEEI started using dedicated relay closures this year, and problems with automating games have largely vanished. Maybe because of this WGIR decided to try automating them again. I don't know how Prophet handles satellite automation...some systems are better than others, and sports programming can be difficult to automate because network events don't occur at fixed times like in regular syndicated programming. It could be that whoever programs the automation is on vacation this week, and their fill-in isn't totally up to speed on programming it. While I agree that this sounds bush league, I don't see the need for this rant. Whether you like their programming or not, Clear Channel has a rep for doing a good job from a technical standpoint. Their business # is in the phone book, why not call and ask for the PD? I'm sure they want to know if there are problems. From francini@mac.com Wed Jun 16 09:54:46 2004 From: francini@mac.com (francini@mac.com) Date: Wed Jun 16 10:16:47 2004 Subject: WGIR 610 AM - unforgivable mistakes during Red Sox broadcasts... In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20040616081110.01afdd08@pop3.bit-net.com> References: <061520042130.5228.40CF6A640001532C0000146C2200745672029B0099@comcast.net> <6.1.1.1.1.20040615185733.01e46898@incoming.verizon.net> <6.0.3.0.0.20040616081110.01afdd08@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: Steve and the list. Sorry for the rant; I was just frustrated because I was driving home from the North and couldn't get WEEI until I was almost home, and I couldn't believe that they screwed up AGAIN. I was stuck with WGIR until I got close to Nashua. I still wish WEEI would buy a powerful FM signal up in the Manchester area, as they did in Rhode Island. As a baseball fan and almost-constant AM radio listener, I tend to hold stations to a high standard of audio quality and presentation. Perhaps I've been listening to large-market stations (from Boston proper) for too long. I also suppose that my Clear Channel rant came about because of how they dumped Howard Stern from their signals because he "switched sides" from pro-Bush to anti-Bush. Rather petty, considering that dumping Stern could be AM drive suicide, ratings-wise, once he lands on another signal in those markets. I also have no love for monopolies or oligopolies of any stripe. That's where it all came from. Once again I apologize for any undeserved invective. What is IBOC? John On Jun 16, 2004, at 8:27 AM, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > John J. Francini wrote: >> The past two Red Sox Baseball broadcasts on WGIR-AM 610 >> Manchester--Sunday and tonight-- have been nothing short of a >> textbook on how not to do a network broadcast. >> >> The problems I've heard include: >> >> o Running the broadcast on the 7-second delay used for talk shows, >> making it impossible to use the audio as a substitute for the TV >> coverage. > > > I wouldn't necessarily consider this as an error on their part...why > should it matter to them if you want to sync up with tv? Once IBOC > happens, get used to it. > > > >> o Missing the start of local between-inning commercial breaks, and >> thus having 30-60 seconds of dead air. And then adding insult to >> injury by running ALL the local commercials, even though they end up >> cutting into the broadcast by a minute or more. >> >> o Cutting AWAY from the broadcast at 10:00 PM to pick up some sort of >> top-of-the-hour news program from some satellite network, and then >> the start of an hour of Art Bell via satellite, and then finally >> realizing at 10:07 that they screwed up royally and returning to the >> ball game. >> >> o Playing local ads ON TOP OF the game audio. >> >> >> What the hell is going on over there? Is this the sort of >> scintillating production quality you get when Clear Channel buys a >> station? The fact that this has gone on during more than one game >> means one of two possibilities: > > > > Calm down. First of all Clear Channel (or one of it's predecessors) > has owned this station for at least 10 years. Last I knew they used > board ops for Sox games for this reason...before this year WEEI > screwed up so much that automating a game was hit or miss...they used > subaudible tones and it was not uncommon for their board op to send > the wrong ones. Tones also don't always decode properly either. WEEI > started using dedicated relay closures this year, and problems with > automating games have largely vanished. Maybe because of this WGIR > decided to try automating them again. > > I don't know how Prophet handles satellite automation...some systems > are better than others, and sports programming can be difficult to > automate because network events don't occur at fixed times like in > regular syndicated programming. It could be that whoever programs the > automation is on vacation this week, and their fill-in isn't totally > up to speed on programming it. > > While I agree that this sounds bush league, I don't see the need for > this rant. Whether you like their programming or not, Clear Channel > has a rep for doing a good job from a technical standpoint. Their > business # is in the phone book, why not call and ask for the PD? I'm > sure they want to know if there are problems. > > > > From kc1ih@mac.com Wed Jun 16 10:42:50 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Wed Jun 16 10:42:57 2004 Subject: Shaving Cream! In-Reply-To: <40CF9CA2.3904.680C3D@localhost> References: <"061520042130.5228.40CF6A640001532C0000146C2200745672029B00 99"@comcast.net> <40CF9CA2.3904.680C3D@localhost> Message-ID: <6.1.1.1.2.20040616103834.01ea7c28@mail.mac.com> At 01:04 AM 6/16/2004, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >I notice that "Sex in the City" is about to debut on WTBS. Of course, the >nudity will be >edited out somehow, but I wonder how some of the subject matter and >language will be >handled. I'm thinking, in particular, about onw episode involving an >artist who paints women >models -- but only the area between their legs. And the C-word is used >quite liberally. I >can't imagine how they can edit this and still have it make sense. According to one article I saw, when the series was originally made, substitute scenes were taped for when the series eventually went into syndication. Still, it's possible that some episodes will not be able to be shown. Remember, this is still cable/satellite (TBS Network is a different entity from WTBS ch 17 Atlanta), and thus it can be somewhat more risque than OTA. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From kc1ih@mac.com Wed Jun 16 10:42:50 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Wed Jun 16 10:42:59 2004 Subject: Shaving Cream! In-Reply-To: <40CF9CA2.3904.680C3D@localhost> References: <"061520042130.5228.40CF6A640001532C0000146C2200745672029B00 99"@comcast.net> <40CF9CA2.3904.680C3D@localhost> Message-ID: <6.1.1.1.2.20040616103834.01ea7c28@mail.mac.com> At 01:04 AM 6/16/2004, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >I notice that "Sex in the City" is about to debut on WTBS. Of course, the >nudity will be >edited out somehow, but I wonder how some of the subject matter and >language will be >handled. I'm thinking, in particular, about onw episode involving an >artist who paints women >models -- but only the area between their legs. And the C-word is used >quite liberally. I >can't imagine how they can edit this and still have it make sense. According to one article I saw, when the series was originally made, substitute scenes were taped for when the series eventually went into syndication. Still, it's possible that some episodes will not be able to be shown. Remember, this is still cable/satellite (TBS Network is a different entity from WTBS ch 17 Atlanta), and thus it can be somewhat more risque than OTA. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Wed Jun 16 12:26:12 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed Jun 16 12:26:19 2004 Subject: Shaving Cream! In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.2.20040616103834.01ea7c28@mail.mac.com> References: <"061520042130.5228.40CF6A640001532C0000146C2200745672029B00 99"@comcast.net> <40CF9CA2.3904.680C3D@localhost> <6.1.1.1.2.20040616103834.01ea7c28@mail.mac.com> Message-ID: <200406161626.i5GGQCep010220@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > Remember, this is still cable/satellite (TBS Network is a different > entity from WTBS ch 17 Atlanta), and thus it can be somewhat more > risque than OTA. Actually, the programming on channel 17 differs from the satellite feed for only about half an hour a week, when WTBS runs its Saturday-morning Atlanta public-affairs show. BTW, there is no need to CC the list twice. -GAWollman From sven@gordsven.com Wed Jun 16 14:36:30 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Sven Franklyn Weil) Date: Wed Jun 16 14:36:43 2004 Subject: Shaving Cream! In-Reply-To: <200406161626.i5GGQCep010220@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Jun 2004, Garrett Wollman wrote: > Actually, the programming on channel 17 differs from the satellite > feed for only about half an hour a week, when WTBS runs its So WTBS-TV 17 in Atlanta doesn't run any local news or anything? Weird. -- Sven From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Wed Jun 16 14:39:22 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed Jun 16 14:39:26 2004 Subject: Shaving Cream! In-Reply-To: References: <200406161626.i5GGQCep010220@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <200406161839.i5GIdMUG012348@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > So WTBS-TV 17 in Atlanta doesn't run any local news or anything? Weird. WTBS runs more local programming than WMFP-TV 62 in, um, "Lawrence" does. -GAWollman From francini@mac.com Wed Jun 16 15:20:19 2004 From: francini@mac.com (francini@mac.com) Date: Wed Jun 16 15:20:43 2004 Subject: WGIR 610 AM - unforgivable mistakes during Red Sox broadcasts... In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20040616081110.01afdd08@pop3.bit-net.com> References: <061520042130.5228.40CF6A640001532C0000146C2200745672029B0099@comcast.net> <6.1.1.1.1.20040615185733.01e46898@incoming.verizon.net> <6.0.3.0.0.20040616081110.01afdd08@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <34901EEE-BFCA-11D8-9C91-000A95A0515A@mac.com> Seems my comments did do some good -- heard from the news and programming director of WGIR 610 directly via E-mail. Seems Jason Wolfe (WEEI PD) reads this list and forwarded my message to him. The power of the Internet -- I can be a flame-thrower in front of thousands of people (blush). Once more, I apologize to everyone on the list who thought I might have gone "over the top" in my frustration. It appears they're going through an automation system switchover and they haven't gotten all the kinks out. John From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Wed Jun 16 15:43:51 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Wed Jun 16 15:43:20 2004 Subject: WGIR 610 AM - unforgivable mistakes during Red Sox broadcasts... Message-ID: <200406161543.AA3512008756@mail.ttlc.net> francini@mac.com wrote: >Once more, I apologize to everyone on the list who thought >I might have gone "over the top" in my frustration. I, for one didn't think you went over the top. Imagine your opinion of a restaurant making that many mistakes during your meal. Especially one that always was "top-notch" before. I'm sure you would be telling all your friends about it. And not in glowing terms, either. I also think that blaming the automation equipment is a small cop-out. If things are in development and they aren't 101% sure that it's programmed properly, then a "prudent" engineering strategy would be to have a live operator running the air board while the automation system is monitored for proper operation. When it fully mimics the live board op, then and only then should it be allowed to run the game. And for extra insurance, for the next couple of games, I'd have a live op running a manual board in tandem. First screw-up - switch to manual and keep on going. Correct the automation and possibly switch back. All the while taking notes and correcting the automation programming. But to just say "Looks OK, let's hope it works OK tonight," is courting disaster and definitely NOT professional. Pro-active, not re-active is the way to go. my $0.02 (and candidate for mini-rant) From billo@shoreham.net Wed Jun 16 16:19:50 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed Jun 16 16:20:10 2004 Subject: Shaving Cream! In-Reply-To: <40CF9CA2.3904.680C3D@localhost> Message-ID: <000301c453df$47953630$0300a8c0@boneill> Joe Ross: > I notice that "Sex in the City" is about to debut on WTBS. > Of course, the nudity will be > edited out somehow, I > can't imagine how they can edit this and still have it make sense. Thanks for reminding me why I don't subscribe to HBO. Bill O'Neill From billo@shoreham.net Wed Jun 16 16:19:50 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed Jun 16 16:20:11 2004 Subject: Shaving Cream! In-Reply-To: <40CF9CA2.3904.680C3D@localhost> Message-ID: <000301c453df$47953630$0300a8c0@boneill> Joe Ross: > I notice that "Sex in the City" is about to debut on WTBS. > Of course, the nudity will be > edited out somehow, I > can't imagine how they can edit this and still have it make sense. Thanks for reminding me why I don't subscribe to HBO. Bill O'Neill From billo@shoreham.net Wed Jun 16 16:23:04 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed Jun 16 16:23:10 2004 Subject: C(linton)BS In-Reply-To: <40CF9CA2.4360.680BD7@localhost> Message-ID: <000401c453df$bb018d30$0300a8c0@boneill> > On 15 Jun 2004 at 15:33, Brian Vita wrote: > > > I think that the plan is to hype Clinton to suck all of the > O2 out of > > Kerry's campaigning. It could only help Bush. Then Joe Ross: > I don't see that it will have much effect -- I could make a > convincing case that it helps Kerry. There will be around 8 minutes for local spots. Will this be a sales opportunity? Or just another place to dump ROS? And I don't see how "The Summer of Clinton" can sway fence-sitters to Kerry. Unless Monica has a few things to say.... Bill O'Neill From billings@suscom-maine.net Wed Jun 16 20:49:15 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Wed Jun 16 20:49:19 2004 Subject: WGIR 610 AM - unforgivable mistakes during Red Sox broadcasts... References: <061520042130.5228.40CF6A640001532C0000146C2200745672029B0099@comcast.net><6.1.1.1.1.20040615185733.01e46898@incoming.verizon.net><6.0.3.0.0.20040616081110.01afdd08@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <005501c45404$ea203c40$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "SteveOrdinetz" Cc: "Boston Radio Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 9:54 AM Subject: Re: WGIR 610 AM - unforgivable mistakes during Red Sox broadcasts... > I also suppose that my Clear Channel rant came about because of how > they dumped Howard Stern from their signals because he "switched sides" > from pro-Bush to anti-Bush. Everything I have read says they dropped him due to pending fines for offensive material. Where do you get your information? -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From lawyer@attorneyross.com Thu Jun 17 00:44:15 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu Jun 17 00:43:30 2004 Subject: Shaving Cream! In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.2.20040616103834.01ea7c28@mail.mac.com> References: <40CF9CA2.3904.680C3D@localhost> Message-ID: <40D0E95F.18745.20E1A6@localhost> On 16 Jun 2004 at 10:42, Larry Weil wrote: > Remember, this is still cable/satellite (TBS Network is a different > entity from WTBS ch 17 Atlanta), and thus it can be somewhat more > risque than OTA. It is? I thought TBS network was the same as WTBS. When did that change? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From miscon@miscon.net Thu Jun 17 08:25:37 2004 From: miscon@miscon.net (Mission Control) Date: Thu Jun 17 08:25:48 2004 Subject: WERS balance Message-ID: <200406170825.AA173408542@miscon.net> Is it just me, or is there a balance problem in WERS's signal (88.9 Boston) this morning? Mike From billo@shoreham.net Thu Jun 17 08:55:52 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu Jun 17 08:56:05 2004 Subject: WGIR 610 AM - unforgivable mistakes during Red Sox broadcasts... In-Reply-To: <005501c45404$ea203c40$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <000e01c4546a$6c8c7f30$0300a8c0@boneill> > Everything I have read says they dropped him due to pending fines for > offensive material. Where do you get your information? > > -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine I don't think Stern's supposed political leaning will have any impact on the election. Mainly, this is due to the fact the the segment of his demo that he is most likely to want to energize, are politically unlinked from the process, IMHO. While there is an upper tier to the Stern demo, they don't listen to Stern to gain political advise. They listen for entertainment. I actually wonder if Stern really thinks the presidential outcome will have any impact on the decency climate. Now that Sumner has (at least publicly) endorsed Stern and articulated support for him ("Viacom's with me") the pressure has been dramatically reduced. While Stern could assert himself such that he could have some political sway, I don't think he's as hot for that now. His 30 years on air is also due to, oddly, restraint. Bill O'Neill From chungwei@MIT.EDU Wed Jun 16 17:57:37 2004 From: chungwei@MIT.EDU (Chung-Wei Lee) Date: Thu Jun 17 11:32:23 2004 Subject: Digital radio station in Boston area? Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040616175513.0261e840@localhost> Hi Is there any station in Boston area broadcasts its signal in a digital way? Can I get the signal with my FM/AM radio, or I need special radio (IBOC-compatible?)? Thanks Steven From francini@mac.com Fri Jun 18 08:51:43 2004 From: francini@mac.com (John J. Francini) Date: Fri Jun 18 08:51:53 2004 Subject: ClearChannel and Howard Stern (was: WGIR) In-Reply-To: <005501c45404$ea203c40$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <061520042130.5228.40CF6A640001532C0000146C2200745672029B0099@comcast.net > <6.1.1.1.1.20040615185733.01e46898@incoming.verizon.net> <6.0.3.0.0.20040616081110.01afdd08@pop3.bit-net.com> <005501c45404$ea203c40$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: > > >> I also suppose that my Clear Channel rant came about because of how >> they dumped Howard Stern from their signals because he "switched sides" >> from pro-Bush to anti-Bush. > >Everything I have read says they dropped him due to pending fines for >offensive material. Where do you get your information? > >-- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine Numerous places on the net. A good assortment of sources is given here: Also given how CC banned DixieChicks recordings from being played -- at least until listeners complained very loudly -- because of their very-anti-Bush comments, one begins to think of this as a radio behemoth throwing its weight around simply because it can. John -- ---- John Francini +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | "I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is called a disgrace; | | that two are called a law firm; and that three or more become a Congress.| | And by God I have had _this_ Congress!" | | -- John Adams | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steveord@bit-net.com Fri Jun 18 09:01:44 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Jun 18 09:01:39 2004 Subject: ClearChannel and Howard Stern (was: WGIR) In-Reply-To: References: <061520042130.5228.40CF6A640001532C0000146C2200745672029B0099@comcast.net > <6.1.1.1.1.20040615185733.01e46898@incoming.verizon.net> <6.0.3.0.0.20040616081110.01afdd08@pop3.bit-net.com> <005501c45404$ea203c40$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040618085716.01b82f98@pop3.bit-net.com> John J. Francini wrote: >Numerous places on the net. A good assortment of sources is given here: > > >Also given how CC banned DixieChicks recordings from being played -- at >least until listeners complained very loudly -- because of their >very-anti-Bush comments, one begins to think of this as a radio behemoth >throwing its weight around simply because it can. Hey, I read it on the internet, it's gotta be true. Some baseless rumors just won't die. I have never heard of any CC (or any other chain) decree banning a particular artist. From sid@wrko.com Fri Jun 18 09:25:32 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Fri Jun 18 09:25:53 2004 Subject: ClearChannel and Howard Stern (was: WGIR) Message-ID: >>Numerous places on the net. A good assortment of sources is given here: << ...none of whom have the actual facts right. They sure do have a point of view, however. CC perceived that its licenses were at risk, so they pulled off the one person who was putting them in that position and costing them millions of dollars. It was literally as simple as that. >>Also given how CC banned DixieChicks recordings from being played -- at least until listeners complained very loudly -- because of their very-anti-Bush comments, one begins to think of this as a radio behemoth throwing its weight around simply because it can.<< This lie was put to rest months ago. CC issued no such order, either verbally or in writing. Stations that took Dixie Chicks songs off of their playlists bowed to pressure from their listeners...NOT from their corporate bosses. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Jun 18 13:13:22 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri Jun 18 13:13:50 2004 Subject: ClearChannel and Howard Stern (was: WGIR) In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20040618085716.01b82f98@pop3.bit-net.com> References: <061520042130.5228.40CF6A640001532C0000146C2200745672029B0099@comcast.net > <6.1.1.1.1.20040615185733.01e46898@incoming.verizon.net> <6.0.3.0.0.20040616081110.01afdd08@pop3.bit-net.com> <005501c45404$ea203c40$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040618131206.024f3730@pop.registeredsite.com> >Steve wrote-- >Hey, I read it on the internet, it's gotta be true. Some baseless rumors >just won't die. I have never heard of any CC (or any other chain) decree >banning a particular artist. Umm, not baseless at all. In late May of last year, I commented on this very fact-- and it is a fact-- on ABC's Nightline. The ban started with the Cumulus chain. CC ordered that anti-war songs be banned. Both plans equally scary, both were carried out for a while. From ssmyth@psu.edu Fri Jun 18 13:52:05 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri Jun 18 13:52:16 2004 Subject: ClearChannel and Howard Stern (was: WGIR) Message-ID: <200406181752.i5IHq5k27335@webmail1.cac.psu.edu> On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 13:13:22 +0000, Donna Halper wrote: > Umm, not baseless at all. In late May of last year, I commented on this > very fact-- and it is a fact-- on ABC's Nightline. The ban started with > the Cumulus chain. CC ordered that anti-war songs be banned. Both plans > equally scary, both were carried out for a while. I think what Steve (and others who have made similar comments) were trying to say is that Clear Channel - or any company representative -never was quoted on the record as saying such a ban was in place. And, if that's what Steve, et al, are saying, I'd tend to agree. The accurate statement in this case is: "Clear Channel, nor any of its representatives, never acknowledged on the record to a ban of the Dixie Chicks." Whether or not they did in more clandestine channels remains up for debate. From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Jun 18 13:58:34 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri Jun 18 13:59:04 2004 Subject: ClearChannel and Howard Stern (was: WGIR) In-Reply-To: <200406181752.i5IHq5k27335@webmail1.cac.psu.edu> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040618135417.02733ce8@pop.registeredsite.com> >Sean wrote-- >The accurate statement in this case is: "Clear Channel, nor any of its >representatives, never acknowledged on the record to a ban of the Dixie >Chicks." > >Whether or not they did in more clandestine channels remains up for debate. Lisa Stark, who produced the ABC Nightline piece, found clear (no pun intended) evidence that there was such a ban, at least on all of the Cumulus stations, and found sufficient evidence from some album rock PDs at CC that they were in fact told not to play anti-war songs. It's disingenuous to say that because Lowry Mays himself, a very media savvy guy, didn't step up and say "Yeah I told 'em to do it", that means it didn't happen. At the risk of turning this thread political, there was a lot of pressure coming from the current Administration to get us into a war with Iraq, and many of Mr Bush's supporters at the highest levels of media were eager to co-operate. And don't forget-- it wasn't that long ago when anyone who dissented about the war was immediately labelled "a traitor" or "unpatriotic", so it doesn't shock me that certain networks did what they thought was their part to make sure the pro-war sentiment won out. From ssmyth@psu.edu Fri Jun 18 14:11:55 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri Jun 18 14:11:58 2004 Subject: ClearChannel and Howard Stern (was: WGIR) Message-ID: <200406181811.i5IIBtB28773@webmail1.cac.psu.edu> On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 13:58:34 +0000, Donna Halper wrote: > Lisa Stark, who produced the ABC Nightline piece, found clear (no pun > intended) evidence that there was such a ban, at least on all of the > Cumulus stations, and found sufficient evidence from some album rock PDs at > CC that they were in fact told not to play anti-war songs. It's > disingenuous to say that because Lowry Mays himself, a very media savvy > guy, didn't step up and say "Yeah I told 'em to do it", that means it > didn't happen. At the risk of turning this thread political, there was a > lot of pressure coming from the current Administration to get us into a war > with Iraq, and many of Mr Bush's supporters at the highest levels of media > were eager to co-operate. And don't forget-- it wasn't that long ago when > anyone who dissented about the war was immediately labelled "a traitor" or > "unpatriotic", so it doesn't shock me that certain networks did what they > thought was their part to make sure the pro-war sentiment won out. Personally, from what I've heard, I'm inclined to agree Chicks' air-play was reduced, and I'd be intersted in seeing Lisa's evidence. However (and call me a cautious reporter if you want to) to say it is a 100-percent, stone-cold lock that it was ordered by the higher-ups is something I'm still uncomfortable saying or putting in print. Remember there was a decent-sized outcry from us everyday Americans -- and not just because the Bush Administration told people to kvetch about it. From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Jun 18 18:52:44 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Fri Jun 18 18:52:48 2004 Subject: ClearChannel and Howard Stern (was: WGIR) References: <061520042130.5228.40CF6A640001532C0000146C2200745672029B0099@comcast.net> <6.1.1.1.1.20040615185733.01e46898@incoming.verizon.net><6.0.3.0.0.20040616081110.01afdd08@pop3.bit-net.com><005501c45404$ea203c40$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> <5.1.0.14.2.20040618131206.024f3730@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <002d01c45586$f8241770$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "SteveOrdinetz" Cc: Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 1:13 PM Subject: Re: ClearChannel and Howard Stern (was: WGIR) > Umm, not baseless at all. Are you also suggesting that Stern being dropped due to politics is not baseless? -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Jun 18 18:53:30 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Fri Jun 18 18:53:33 2004 Subject: ClearChannel and Howard Stern (was: WGIR) References: <061520042130.5228.40CF6A640001532C0000146C2200745672029B0099@comcast.net > <6.1.1.1.1.20040615185733.01e46898@incoming.verizon.net> <6.0.3.0.0.20040616081110.01afdd08@pop3.bit-net.com> <005501c45404$ea203c40$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <003401c45587$133bab40$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> It appears that the source is Stern! It must be true! From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Jun 18 18:57:07 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri Jun 18 18:57:32 2004 Subject: ClearChannel and Howard Stern (was: WGIR) In-Reply-To: <002d01c45586$f8241770$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <061520042130.5228.40CF6A640001532C0000146C2200745672029B0099@comcast.net> <6.1.1.1.1.20040615185733.01e46898@incoming.verizon.net> <6.0.3.0.0.20040616081110.01afdd08@pop3.bit-net.com> <005501c45404$ea203c40$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> <5.1.0.14.2.20040618131206.024f3730@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040618185545.0279d048@pop.registeredsite.com> >Dan asked-- >Are you also suggesting that Stern being dropped due to politics is not >baseless? Don't know the real story there-- I wasn't a part of the investigation into that one. But it wouldn't surprise me. Like it or hate it, these are very political (and very partisan) times in which we are living. From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Jun 18 19:03:22 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Fri Jun 18 19:03:24 2004 Subject: ClearChannel and Howard Stern (was: WGIR) References: <061520042130.5228.40CF6A640001532C0000146C2200745672029B0099@comcast.net> <6.1.1.1.1.20040615185733.01e46898@incoming.verizon.net> <6.0.3.0.0.20040616081110.01afdd08@pop3.bit-net.com> <005501c45404$ea203c40$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> <5.1.0.14.2.20040618131206.024f3730@pop.registeredsite.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20040618185545.0279d048@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <004f01c45588$73f18da0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Dan Billings" Cc: Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 6:57 PM Subject: Re: ClearChannel and Howard Stern (was: WGIR) > Don't know the real story there-- I wasn't a part of the investigation into > that one. But it wouldn't surprise me. Like it or hate it, these are very > political (and very partisan) times in which we are living. All part of the vast right-wing conspiracy. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Jun 19 07:28:42 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat Jun 19 07:29:52 2004 Subject: End of Swing format on WCRN 830? Message-ID: <001b01c455f0$b8c75640$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I've noticed that for probably a couple of weeks now, WCRN Worcester has been running jockless except in AM drive and that the AM-drive guy, who had been with the station from the inception of the (locally produced adult standards) Swing format, is gone--replaced by a guy who sounds a good deal younger and not as experienced (read: works for shorter pay). Also the AM-drive shift, which used to run from 6:30 to 9:00 AM has apparently been cut to 7:00 to 9:00 AM. Although I have no inside information, this change certainly has the flavor of an impending format flip or station sale. It's no secret that adult-standards formats on stand-alone AMs don't often make money, but WCRN was voicetracked in most dayparts, so the cost of not appearing to be running jockless couldn't have been huge. OTOH, it was also apparent that the Swing format has been a labor of love on the part of station management. The music is of much higher quality and is older-skewing than the fare on the three satellite-delivered AS formats (ABC, Westwood I, and Jones). Also, if money is the problem, is Carter still planning to move forward with the nighttime power increase to 50 kW, for which the FCC issued a CP last fall? It would be a shame if this upgrade, which appears to be technically quite feasible, were to go down the drain. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 From jjlehmann@comcast.net Sat Jun 19 07:36:37 2004 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Sat Jun 19 07:36:50 2004 Subject: End of Swing format on WCRN 830? In-Reply-To: <001b01c455f0$b8c75640$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <000e01c455f1$b149f570$6400a8c0@AMD> I'm not sure, but I'd say they have been using 50kW at night for at least 6 months now. They're much stronger here on the south shore at night than they used to be. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Dan Strassberg Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 7:29 AM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: End of Swing format on WCRN 830? Also, if money is the problem, is Carter still planning to move forward with the nighttime power increase to 50 kW, for which the FCC issued a CP last fall? It would be a shame if this upgrade, which appears to be technically quite feasible, were to go down the drain. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 From elipolo@earthlink.net Sat Jun 19 13:28:58 2004 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sat Jun 19 13:16:57 2004 Subject: ClearChannel and Howard Stern (was: WGIR) In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040618131206.024f3730@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: On 6/18/04 1:13 PM, "Donna Halper" wrote: > Umm, not baseless at all. In late May of last year, I commented on this > very fact-- and it is a fact-- on ABC's Nightline. The ban started with > the Cumulus chain. CC ordered that anti-war songs be banned. Both plans > equally scary, both were carried out for a while. I'm certainly not one to normally defend Clear Channel, however during the period following 9/11 when the alleged CC "ban" on certain anti-war (or otherwise possibly controversial) songs was supposedly on, I heard CC stations in Providence (WWBB and WHJY) continue to often play a number of songs that were on the alleged "ban" list, simply because they're big hits that are normally in their rotation. (John Lennon's "Imagine", for example). The story I heard was that there was a circulated list of songs "suggested" to avoid, but that it wasn't an ordered mandate, and that most of their stations just continued with business as usual. I don't listen to CC's Boston stations (except Little Walter on WXKS-AM), so I don't know what they were doing then. Eli Polonsky From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Jun 19 13:47:27 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat Jun 19 13:48:32 2004 Subject: End of Swing format on WCRN 830? References: <000e01c455f1$b149f570$6400a8c0@AMD> Message-ID: <001501c45625$9aa80da0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I don't think so. Around the time that you apparently noticed an improvement in the night signal, I posted to this list that I thought I had noticed an improvement and that I wondered whether WCRN might already have increased its night power. The result was an ANGRY posting from a gentleman named (IIRC) Rich Chadwick, who does technical consutling for Carter Broadcasting, which owns WCRN, WACE, and the 1220 station in Providence (WRIB?). He said that no way was WCRN operating outside of the terms of its license and that construction of the new nighttime facilities (which require contructing one more tower) could not possibly begin until what is now this spring. Since you say you live on the South Shore, when the night signal goes on, you should hear WCRN significantly better at night than you do during the day. The day pattern is aimed northeast (43 degrees); the night pattern is aimed almost due east (83 degrees). If you live at 120 degrees from the transmitter, which would mean (I think) in a place near Hingham, the signal should seem to come from a station that operates with nighttime power approximately twice as great as the daytime power. One of the problems I have with estimating WCRN's nighttime signal strength at my QTH, which is about 40 miles east-northeast of the Tx, is the station's own skywave, which, at night, often mixes with the groundwave and causes the station to fade in and out. Sometimes the night signal seems stronger than the day signal; at other times, the signal nearly disappears. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Lehmann To: Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 7:36 AM Subject: RE: End of Swing format on WCRN 830? > I'm not sure, but I'd say they have been using 50kW at night for at > least 6 months now. They're much stronger here on the south shore at > night than they used to be. > > Jeff Lehmann > Hanson, MA > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf > Of Dan Strassberg > Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 7:29 AM > To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > Subject: End of Swing format on WCRN 830? > > Also, if money is the problem, is Carter still planning to move > forward with the nighttime power increase to 50 kW, for which the FCC > issued > a CP last fall? It would be a shame if this upgrade, which appears to be > technically quite feasible, were to go down the drain. > > -- > Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > eFax 707-215-6367 > > From billo@shoreham.net Mon Jun 21 11:04:38 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon Jun 21 11:05:06 2004 Subject: Ad Nauseum? Message-ID: <000001c457a1$14037aa0$0200a8c0@boneill> Jill Goldsmith, Variety, posted at Yahoo! on this link: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=2072&ncid=2072&e=1&u=/variety/20 040617/va_mu_ne/ad_glut_rocks_radio Goldsmith says Wall Street predicts reduced growth of CC, Emmis, Cox, Entercom, Citadel, WW1 and some banks have downgraded the cos.' stocks. The story suggests "ad inundation" with boosted inventory as having reached a point of diminishing returns (aggregate spot value). It also seems that radio has been lagging behind other ad media post-911 slowdowns. More after this message from Metamucil, Mosquito Magnet, a little blue pill, a purple pill, and a brown pill shaped like a baby's arm holding an apple. Bill O'Neill From raccoonradio@myway.com Thu Jun 17 14:14:37 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob) Date: Mon Jun 21 11:28:06 2004 Subject: Air America--ever in Boston? Message-ID: <20040617181437.4DE5412D36@mprdmxin.myway.com> Will Air America ever get an affiliate in Boston? Some say it would just be preaching to the converted, given the huge liberal audience here, but wouldn't many of these folks WANT to hear this, and to buy the products advertised? Who knows what station would want to carry one or several AA shows... I will say I heard a bit of AA while up in Vermont, on Burlington's WVTK (1070). Ironic that there's a classic country station up there, WVAA 1390, that would have the perfect call letters for this network: We're Vermont's Air America. But as it is they probably chose those calls because it was "All American Country"). Anyway, it was the last few minutes of "The O'Franken Factor". Al and his co-host were talking to Bob Weir of Grateful Dead fame. Then Al told a story about taking his daughter to see New Kids back in the early 90s, and a caller got on saying "You're our last hope!" (Of course, AA isn't the only left-of-center media out there: NPR; "Democracy Now!", NY Times, Boston Globe, and many broadcast and cable networks have a liberal bias just as the likes of most talk radio, and Fox News Channel (and broadcast channel) are tilted right. The caller asked if Al was going to continue to call his show "The O'Franken Factor". "Well, we chose that name to goad O'Reilly," he admitted. "You ought to call it 'Franken Sense'," said the caller. "Actually we were thinking of calling it 'Franken Sense and Mirth'," said Al, who did a bit on it in a New York-ese Jewish accent (think Jackie Mason, in some ways). "Well, we'll probably change the name of the show eventually." Franken's voice at times was a bit too low-key compared to most talk hosts, though the presence of his female co-host, together with his "doing voices" and comedy shtick helped. While I'm right of center on many issues, I'd think AA could work in Boston. And I'd be willing to listen, as long as they do an interesting program. As long as they tolerate all viewpoints and don't allow only liberal callers on. It's interesting to hear opposing views heard, and Al (and the others) have a chance to then offer their views as a counter-point. The conservative talk hosts do this; granted, they often would make fun of a liberal caller or guest (think Bruce Frederich of PETA on Howie's show) but the views DO get on there (admittedly they might be shouted down by the host, though...) And I find it interesting that while the Dem. convention will be taking place in Boston, and AA might do shows from there, you'll be unable to hear it here (I thought WSNH 900 in southern NH was to pick it up but when I tune in to them I hear oldies???) PS--I will say that some feel the network exists to help swing the election to the Democrats, and they probably feel Mass. is safely in Kerry's hands...but is that true? Would this network's raison d'etre be simply "We want to win the '04 election?" _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From lglavin@mail.com Sat Jun 19 14:51:41 2004 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon Jun 21 11:28:08 2004 Subject: Why Not 1270 For WADK-AM? Message-ID: <20040619185141.947E51F4FEB@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> During last week's LTAR, the subject of the attempt by WADK-AM 1540 in Newport, RI to add nighttime service came up. The FCC's Daily Digest recently noted a new application by WADK for the FCC to reconsider this application with less power. WADK's problem is the fact that it operates on a northeast region clear channel designation used by a station in nearby New York state. Thus nighttime skywave from this blowtorch makes it unlikely WADK could provide reliable service to Newport itself, much less other localities on Aquidneck Island. Well, a few years ago, the owners of WJFD-FM in New Bedford applied to construct a new AM on 1270 with transmitter in Dartmouth, Mass. After a lengthy period during which the CP was never built, the application was deleted. But if the FCC originally approved a full-time 1270 operation in Dartmouth, Mass serving Fall River-New Bedford, how difficult would it be to move the design and parameters just a few miles south to just outside of Newport? It appears the owners hoped to construct an array at its current site in Newport itself, and might have to re-design a 1270 operation from there; but it would be lower down on the dial and be less "noisy" than the 1540 dial position. Laurence Glavin (using my alternate e-mail provider because the prime one is down) -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From raccoonradio@myway.com Mon Jun 21 12:47:55 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob) Date: Mon Jun 21 12:48:06 2004 Subject: Air America--ever in Boston? Message-ID: <20040621164755.62C91397E@mprdmxin.myway.com> Meanwhile, Drudge reports that AA is in deep financial trouble (among other things, the $30 million supposedly raised for the venture turned out to be $6 million, and they are said to be $2 million in the hole. http://www.drudgereport.com/flash8.htm _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From mlaurence@mindspring.com Mon Jun 21 18:31:04 2004 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Mon Jun 21 18:31:14 2004 Subject: Air America--ever in Boston? In-Reply-To: <20040621164755.62C91397E@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: On Monday, June 21, 2004, at 12:47 PM, Bob wrote: > > Meanwhile, Drudge reports that AA is in deep financial trouble > (among other things, the $30 million supposedly raised for the venture > turned out to be $6 million, and they are said to be > $2 million in the hole. > > http://www.drudgereport.com/flash8.htm Drudge is probably relying heavily on a Wall Street Journal report, which I just read online: http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/business/index.ssf?/newsflash/ get_story.ssf?/cgi-free/getstory_ssf.cgi?f0021_BC_WSJ-- AirAmerica&&news&newsflash-financial Although both Drudge and the WSJ are conservative champions, I suspect there's a lot of truth in the story. Randi Rhodes devoted a good amount of time on her show last week to the Air America naysayers and gave her rebuttal. Much blame for the financial troubles goes to the investors from Guam, Evan Cohen and Rex Sorenson, who smooth-talked their way to the top positions at Air America, apparently with a lot of lies and exaggeration. They're gone now, and if you listen to the network, you hear an impressive array of national advertisers. Rhodes says they're doing radio the "old fashioned way" now, by selling time and paying the bills. On the air, it sounds like she's right. Apparently advertisers are impressed by the early New York numbers, by the very large number of listeners to the streaming audio, and by the attractive demos the network is drawing. Time will tell, of course. Rhodes also said the Guam investors were Republicans who infiltrated Air America. Sure enough, the Chicago Tribune, reporting last April when Evan Cohen moved to the top at AA, said, "He began his career as a Republican operative in his native Guam, serving as spokesman for Guam's Republican Party and as chief of staff for Sen. Tommy Tanaka, a pro-life Republican legislator." It certainly adds an element of political intrigue to the whole story. Mark From raccoonradio@myway.com Tue Jun 22 03:33:52 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob) Date: Tue Jun 22 03:34:00 2004 Subject: BRW: Brennan exit may affect WWZN, Celts radio Message-ID: <20040622073352.5DCDB397E@mprdmxin.myway.com> Boston Radio Watch reports that the exit of Christopher Brennan from WWZN 1510 might mean that they'll "close up shop" as Boston's second all-sports station, find a buyer, and speed up the divorce from the Celtics (maybe shopping them around to 'any station that will take them' next year?) http://commons.somewhere.com/bostonrw/2004/Boston.Radio.Watch.--.065.html _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From steveord@bit-net.com Tue Jun 22 07:58:59 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue Jun 22 07:59:19 2004 Subject: Air America--ever in Boston? In-Reply-To: References: <20040621164755.62C91397E@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040622074804.01bc4e60@pop3.bit-net.com> Mark Laurence wrote: >lThey're gone now, and if you listen to the >network, you hear an impressive array of national advertisers. Rhodes >says they're doing radio the "old fashioned way" now, by selling time >and paying the bills. On the air, it sounds like she's right. >Apparently advertisers are impressed by the early New York numbers, by >the very large number of listeners to the streaming audio, and by the >attractive demos the network is drawing. Time will tell, of course. I read somewhere that the trends for May were pretty inimpressive, leading one to believe that those April numbers were either curiosity or a fluke. The fact that they're even counting streaming audio shows how desperate they are (and they're in even rougher shape than it looks on the surface if that's a significant part of their audience). If the -really- wanted to do it the "old fashioned way" they'd have started small, concentrating their efforts on one or 2 TALENTED and ENTERTAINING (key words here) hosts, gotten themselves established and built from there. Of course this takes time and a lot of work, neither of which they seem to want to spend. >Rhodes also said the Guam investors were Republicans who infiltrated >Air America. Sure enough, the Chicago Tribune, reporting last April >when Evan Cohen moved to the top at AA, said, "He began his career as a >Republican operative in his native Guam, serving as spokesman for >Guam's Republican Party and as chief of staff for Sen. Tommy Tanaka, a >pro-life Republican legislator." It certainly adds an element of >political intrigue to the whole story. Those evil Republicans are at it again. Must be the Great Right Wing Conspiracy. Sigh. Is this outfit so rinky-dink that they'll only allow investors who are as rabidly partisan as the hosts? From steveord@bit-net.com Tue Jun 22 12:28:18 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue Jun 22 12:28:21 2004 Subject: Air America--ever in Boston? In-Reply-To: <005201c45868$4161fb80$db163618@woodmvc1xkg0r1> References: <20040621164755.62C91397E@mprdmxin.myway.com> <6.0.3.0.0.20040622074804.01bc4e60@pop3.bit-net.com> <005201c45868$4161fb80$db163618@woodmvc1xkg0r1> Message-ID: <49875.216.204.15.170.1087921698.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> > Just like the "right wing" ain't it! Sadly, idealogues are idealogues...regardless of their politics. Not a dime's worth of difference between rabid left wingers and rabid right wingers other than the viewpoints. Neither one wants to hear any opinions that differ from their own. From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Jun 22 15:11:02 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue Jun 22 15:11:51 2004 Subject: WBIX night signal Message-ID: <001501c4588c$c29ab100$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Despite all of the announcements WBIX has aired at various times over the past few months related to daytime testing of the new night signal, I had not heard--until yesterday (Monday, 6/21)--what sounded like a weaker-than-normal signal. Yesterday, and again today, the signal has been unmistakeably weaker--a LOT weaker. So, since the weather was so great yesterday, I decided to travel out to Sewell St in Ashland to see what I could see. My assumption is that for the last two days, WBIX has been operating ND from Sewell St with a power of 500W or less. The purpose must be to make detailed soil conductivity measurements, which will be necessary to establish the performance of the directional array. I was not able to enter the fenced-in area around the towers, although a nearby hillside provided a good view within. Unlike most moden AM sites (and unlike the setup at the site before the recent modifications), no separate fences remain around the individual tower bases. Previously, there was a single locked fence surrounding all five of the tower bases and an additional fence around each tower base. I'm pretty sure that the large fence is either new or upgraded, but the individual fences are now gone. There are multiple padlocks on the gate into the fenced-in area, and the high chain-link fence is topped with barbed wire. A large sign on each tower indicates the FAA registration number and the numbers are plainly visible from outside the fence. Multiple signs near the gate warn of the radiation hazard within the fenced-in area. I guess it's better that the BRH has mandated that a hazard exists where none actually does than to have it mandate that no hazard exists where one actually does exist. The work done at the site this past winter was extensive--much more extensive than I imagined even after I saw the pictures that WBIX had posted at its Web site. The small ATU buildings have been removed and a goup of large (my guess: roughly 20' by 30' by 8') prefabricated steel buildings have been added. One pair of these buildings has been added to the east of the #1 (west) and #2 towers. Another pair has been added to the west of the #4 and $5 (east) towers. The original Tx building is immediately to the west of the base of the center (#3) tower. In the case of the #3 tower, the new steel building in to the west of the old Tx building. The steel buildings, with the possible exception of the one associated with the #3 tower, must house the ATUs for both 1060 and 890. My guess is that the size was determined when it was thought that both 1060 and 650 would move to the Ashland site. The idea of moving 650 there was abandoned several years ago because of the cost. I could get a good look at the base of only the #1 tower, but I could see only one feed. I had figured that each station would have a separate ATU building at the base of each tower and that there would be separate feeds for each station. Apparently, though, the 1060 and 890 signals are combined before being fed into a single feed for each tower. Anyhow, I don't know how close WBIX is to actually firing up the DA during daylight hours--let alone at night. In fact, there is no guarantee that the new phasing equipment is even on-site yet, although the fact that 890 is operating from the upgraded site probably indiates that the filtering equipment (to separate the 1060 and 890 signals) has been installed. The FCC will probably allow daytime testing of the full array with a power of around 1250W, which should make the signal in Boston a lot stronger than the ND signal that has been in use for the past two days. The site LOOKS very good. Quite neat. No litter from the construction and equipment installation lying around. The towers are not rusty--as they had been years ago. The new prefabricated buidings are too new to have any rust on them--yet. Of course, good housekeeping doesn't guarantee in-spec performance from the array, but bad housekeeping could make it harder to tweak the array and would certainly send the wrong message to the FCC staff. In any event, all of that shiny new construction did make for an interesting excursion yesterday. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Jun 22 17:55:10 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Jun 22 17:55:31 2004 Subject: WPAA-FM Antenna Structure Razed Message-ID: <20040622215510.BE55E86ADF@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> As some of you may know, I have reported on the past propensity for WPAA-FM 91.7 at Andover's Philips academy to stay on the air 24/7 with unmodulated carrier instead of programming. Then, a few months ago, I observed that WPAA disappeared. Well, just out of curiosity, I went to the campus quadrangle that was the site for the building that held the WPAA-FM antenna...but it's GONE. By that I mean the antenna AND the building. Construction vehicles were all over the place, and the aforementioned structure had been razed to the ground and trucked away. WPAA is still on the FCC website as a licensed station, so the question arises: when the new building goes up, will the school put a new antenna atop it and resume broadcasting (or even unmodulated carrier transmitting)? This is a matter for the future because it will undoubtedly take a long time for a new building to go up...will this necessitate a CP for higher alttude, or will Phillips just not operate its station while holding a license? Maybe WUML and WNEF should look into this. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From radiolist@fybush.com Tue Jun 22 18:09:36 2004 From: radiolist@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue Jun 22 18:09:39 2004 Subject: WPAA-FM Antenna Structure Razed In-Reply-To: <20040622215510.BE55E86ADF@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20040622215510.BE55E86ADF@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20928.66.36.29.157.1087942176.squirrel@66.36.29.157> And keep in mind that they can only be silent for one year before the FCC revokes their license "as a matter of law." If they plan to operate from an alternate location, they'd need special temporary authority to do so. 'Twill be interesting to keep an eye on their filings... s From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Jun 22 18:20:20 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Jun 22 18:20:39 2004 Subject: WSNH-AM 900 Removed From Air America List Message-ID: <20040622222020.96C84E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> There's been a lot of talk about Air America Radio, especially this week (the Wall St. Journal had a FRONT PAGE story about the network's finances; and the Arbitrends have been fodder over Fodder's Day coincidentally on the New York Message board.) So I checked out airamericaradio.com for any Home Page comments (there were none), and then clicked on the affiliate list. Well, it appears that WSNH-AM 900 in Nashua, NH has backed away from picking up the network; it's been deleted from the list apparently along with a couple of other stations. Alas no chance to sample its wares around here except after dark on AM 1190 in NYC. An interesting sidebar: Radio & Records reports that Al Franken has signed an extension to his contract to do a midday show beyond the one year already agreed to. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From radiolist@fybush.com Tue Jun 22 18:37:38 2004 From: radiolist@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue Jun 22 18:37:39 2004 Subject: WSNH-AM 900 Removed From Air America List In-Reply-To: <20040622222020.96C84E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20040622222020.96C84E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <21683.66.36.29.157.1087943858.squirrel@66.36.29.157> > Alas no chance to > sample its wares around here except after dark on AM 1190 > in NYC. Though AA will soon add WHMP in Northampton and its Greenfield/East Longmeadow clones to its affiliate list, at least for a couple of shows... s From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Tue Jun 22 18:39:58 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue Jun 22 18:40:01 2004 Subject: WPAA-FM Antenna Structure Razed In-Reply-To: <20928.66.36.29.157.1087942176.squirrel@66.36.29.157> References: <20040622215510.BE55E86ADF@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20928.66.36.29.157.1087942176.squirrel@66.36.29.157> Message-ID: <200406222239.i5MMdw3J059783@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > And keep in mind that they can only be silent for one year before the FCC > revokes their license "as a matter of law." Actually, the FCC doesn't have to do anything -- the license simply expires. Even if the FCC doesn't know that a station is silent for a year, at the end of that period the license ceases to exist (47 USC 312(g), 47 CFR 73.1740(c), and 47 CFR 73.561(d)). For NCE-FM stations, 73.561(a) permits stations to remain silent ``during those days designated on the official school calendar as vacation or recess periods.'' -GAWollman From steveord@bit-net.com Tue Jun 22 19:16:56 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue Jun 22 19:16:51 2004 Subject: WSNH-AM 900 Removed From Air America List In-Reply-To: <20040622222020.96C84E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20040622222020.96C84E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040622191412.01bb8c60@pop3.bit-net.com> Laurence Glavin wrote: > Well, it appears that WSNH-AM 900 >in Nashua, NH has backed away from picking up the >network; it's been deleted from the list apparently >along with a couple of other stations. I don't think WSNH was ever considering affiliation with AA. The way I heard the story, AA approached the station and was told "thanks, but no thanks". The "coming soon" on the website appears to be little more than wishful thinking. From billo@shoreham.net Tue Jun 22 19:39:32 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue Jun 22 19:39:50 2004 Subject: WPAA-FM Antenna Structure Razed In-Reply-To: <20928.66.36.29.157.1087942176.squirrel@66.36.29.157> Message-ID: <001701c458b2$2be09ce0$0200a8c0@boneill> Scott writes: > And keep in mind that they can only be silent for one year > before the FCC > revokes their license "as a matter of law." If they plan to > operate from > an alternate location, they'd need special temporary > authority to do so. > 'Twill be interesting to keep an eye on their filings... And if anyone can.... I guess I'm a bit cynical about WPAA and it's licenseholders, the venerable Philips (My Daddy Works for the FCC and his friends are present and past and future U.S. Presidents) Academy Andover. Bill (if politics were a fungus I'd invest in antibiotics) O'Neill From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Tue Jun 22 22:30:45 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue Jun 22 22:30:52 2004 Subject: WSNH-AM 900 Removed From Air America List In-Reply-To: <00b101c460a4$60b23010$6400a8c0@tony> References: <20040622222020.96C84E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> <00b101c460a4$60b23010$6400a8c0@tony> Message-ID: <200406230230.i5N2UjYT061117@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > I don't know why WSNH would not pick it up. [...] Talk America > reportedly always had money problems yet the smaller stations they > serviced never abandoned them over rumors. Frankly, they needed the > material. But WSNH doesn't need the material. They run an automated oldies format. -GAWollman From raccoonradio@myway.com Wed Jun 23 03:54:01 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob) Date: Wed Jun 23 03:54:12 2004 Subject: WSNH-AM 900 Removed From Air America List Message-ID: <20040623075401.4268912CFE@mprdmxin.myway.com> >> Alas no chance to sample its wares around here except after dark on AM 1190 in NYC. But those who live in, or travel to, the Burlington, VT area can hear it on WVTK 1070. Granted, not exactly near Boston but some on this list do live up that way or, like me, have been known to visit. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From steveord@bit-net.com Wed Jun 23 08:55:28 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Wed Jun 23 08:55:21 2004 Subject: WSNH-AM 900 Removed From Air America List In-Reply-To: <006401c460a5$eb8f6490$6400a8c0@tony> References: <20040622222020.96C84E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> <00b101c460a4$60b23010$6400a8c0@tony> <200406230230.i5N2UjYT061117@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <006401c460a5$eb8f6490$6400a8c0@tony> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040623085141.01bba550@pop3.bit-net.com> tony schinella wrote: >But if they were looking to go to talk format, and >that is what Shaheen was rumored to be looking at, >then hey, why not go with it? Hey, at least they're doing local content. Automated, but locally originated. You mean you'd prefer them to be just another 24/7 bird repeater? Not like AA is doing particularly compelling radio. From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Jun 23 18:41:14 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed Jun 23 18:41:35 2004 Subject: Enfeebled WBIX Message-ID: <20040623224114.7AE06C6136@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> After reading Dan Strassberg's posting about the changes in signal strength of WBIX-AM 1060, I tuned it in on my way home up route 93. The signal was decidedly weaker than normal, and became almost unlistenable north of the mighty Merrimack. I checked my receiver that displays relative signal strengths of AM's and WBIX was way weaker than neighboring WILD-AM 1090, which I believe was still at 5K this time of year. It was also way weaker than WTTT-AM 1150. Laurence Glavin -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From radiotony@comcast.net Wed Jun 23 21:48:32 2004 From: radiotony@comcast.net (tony schinella) Date: Wed Jun 23 21:48:44 2004 Subject: WSNH-AM 900 Removed From Air America List References: <20040622222020.96C84E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com><00b101c460a4$60b23010$6400a8c0@tony><200406230230.i5N2UjYT061117@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu><006401c460a5$eb8f6490$6400a8c0@tony> <6.0.3.0.0.20040623085141.01bba550@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <006c01c4598d$602ae060$6400a8c0@tony> True, but my choices up here for talk are clear rightwing WTTK, scratchy rightwing WRKO, rightwing WGIR, or really bland NHPR. Eh, where are my talk choices? Best, Tony Schinella radiotony@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "SteveOrdinetz" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 8:55 AM Subject: Re: WSNH-AM 900 Removed From Air America List > tony schinella wrote: > >But if they were looking to go to talk format, and > >that is what Shaheen was rumored to be looking at, > >then hey, why not go with it? > > > > Hey, at least they're doing local content. Automated, but locally > originated. You mean you'd prefer them to be just another 24/7 bird > repeater? Not like AA is doing particularly compelling radio. > > From RogerKola@aol.com Wed Jun 23 22:07:07 2004 From: RogerKola@aol.com (RogerKola@aol.com) Date: Wed Jun 23 22:07:18 2004 Subject: WSNH-AM 900 Removed From Air America List Message-ID: <87.f178a87.2e0b914b@aol.com> In a message dated 06/23/04 9:49:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, radiotony@comcast.net writes: << True, but my choices up here for talk are clear rightwing WTTK, scratchy rightwing WRKO, rightwing WGIR, or really bland NHPR. Eh, where are my talk choices? >> These people "Stream" Air America.....I just retransmit it around the house on my Part 15 AM transmitter.....If you drive down (up) to Topsfield you can listen in my front yard.... http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/03/284589.shtml Roger WA1KAT From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Jun 24 15:12:27 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu Jun 24 15:13:30 2004 Subject: WBIX night signal Message-ID: <001f01c45a1f$531cd120$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I suspect that as of this morning (sometime after 9:00 AM) WBIX began operating with its new nighttime DA but with power lower than the 2.5 kW specified in its CP. Between noon and 1:00 PM, power appeared to increase somewhat--perhps to as much as 2.5 kW. As far as I know, the FCC never granted program test authority but did grant special temporary authority--presumably to operate during the daytime with the new night facilities--albeit probably at a power lower than that specified in the CP. Once the engineers think they have the array tweaked properly--or tweaked as well as they believe they can tweak it--I expect that the FCC actions will show applications for program test authority, augmentation of the nighttime standard pattern, and a license to cover. I expect that the FCC will fairly quickly grant the application for program test authority, but at reduced power, and that such operation will continue for many months until the FCC staff is satisfied that the array is stable. After that, the FCC will decide on the application for pattern augmentation. Once that is granted, a license to cover should be granted. It would be most unusual if the FCC took less than six months to grant a license to cover for a complex array on a Class A channel--and the process could take MUCH longer. Last time, no license was granted in almost 15 years. But by changing the formulas it uses to determine the protected contours of Class A AMs such as co-channel KYW, the problem is supposedly now enough simpler that the array has a decent chance of working. If the array were being built from scratch today, the towers would not be exactly equally spaced and they would not be in an exactly straight line. Instead, they would be slightly displaced from their ideal locations to optimize the pattern to compensate for the presence of reradiating structures and anomlies in the soil conductivity. However, when you start with towers that are already in place, as the designer of this setup did, it's too late for such measures. The last resort will be a reduction in power. Using the same array, WAMG was granted 3.4 kW-N, whereas its original CP was for 3.5 kW. It certainly appears that the new WAMG/WBIX setup was designed (or at least implemented) with much greatrer care than was the conversion of the array from 1060 to 890 10 or so years ago. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Thu Jun 24 22:31:54 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Thu Jun 24 22:32:05 2004 Subject: Clinton on Infinity broadcasting.... Message-ID: <20040625023154.39547.qmail@web52307.mail.yahoo.com> Does anyone know if the Clinton interview on Infinity Radio today will be repeated (or otherwise can be heard again)? Did anyone catch it? How'd it go? JP ===== Joe Pappalardo joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From kvahey@tmail.com Sat Jun 26 13:23:32 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat Jun 26 13:23:50 2004 Subject: After watching Moore's 9/11 Message-ID: <1088270618.5D5E83E@r5.dngr.org> Michael Moore's 9/11 is a powerfull movie. I don't want to start a debate on what he points out but I am curious on his use of outtake footage. Obviously he has insiders at the networks sending him copies of moments Bush not looking very Presidential. An example is him sitting in the Oval Office making faces at the camera just before he addressed the nation that Iraq was being bombed. Is it fair game? From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Jun 26 13:47:51 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Jun 26 13:48:11 2004 Subject: June 2004 Tower Calendar Station Goes Dark Message-ID: <20040626174751.EA626C6134@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> If you look at your copy of the 2004 Fybush Tower calendar for June, you'll note that WCTM-AM 1130 in Eaton, OH is the outlet who towers are pictured. Allaccess.com reports that the station has gone temporarily dark but is being sold; eveidently health issues with the owner. Quizzical question: as I look at the 3-tower directional array for a 250-watt daytimer, I was wondering why it's directional at all. A check of fcc.gov indicates there are no same-frequency or adjacent-frequency station for 100 kilometers...an 1140 shows up only if you expand the search to 200km. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Jun 26 14:11:26 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Jun 26 14:11:44 2004 Subject: Fybush.com Has The Story Message-ID: <20040626181126.4D4394F3D7@ws7-6.us4.outblaze.com> It goes to show you that I go to my e-mail account before visitng fybush.com. He has the story on the WCTM silencing on the home page. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From sid.whitaker@unh.edu Sat Jun 26 14:11:46 2004 From: sid.whitaker@unh.edu (Sid Whitaker) Date: Sat Jun 26 14:11:57 2004 Subject: After watching Moore's 9/11 In-Reply-To: <1088270618.5D5E83E@r5.dngr.org> References: <1088270618.5D5E83E@r5.dngr.org> Message-ID: <1088273506.40ddbc62c3732@webmail.unh.edu> I saw an interview on this the other day and Moore claims to be using freelancers and buying the video from them. I've only seen trailers, but there's been some talk specifically about the combat footage from Iraq that appears in "Farenheit 9/11" and Moore also claimed to have gotten some of it from freelancers, but he was vague about how exactly he got the video and from whom it came. In TV, the use of freelancers is a pretty common practice, particularly in the larger markets, but even here in Maine most of the Portland stations rely on a handful of freelancers who live out in the hinterlands to cover the out-of-town fires/fatal crashes/drug raids, etc. at odd hours. Instead of calling a photog in at 2 a.m. on a Sunday to shoot a fire in Lewiston, the freelancer up there will shoot a few mins. of video and shop it to the Portland stations. First come, first serve. I see his stuff on the air several times a week. Sid Quoting Kevin Vahey : > Michael Moore's 9/11 is a powerfull movie. I don't want to start a > debate on what he points out but I am curious on his use of outtake > footage. > > Obviously he has insiders at the networks sending him copies of moments > Bush not looking very Presidential. An example is him sitting in the > Oval Office making faces at the camera just before he addressed the > nation that Iraq was being bombed. Is it fair game? > From kvahey@tmail.com Sat Jun 26 15:56:07 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat Jun 26 15:56:20 2004 Subject: June 2004 Tower Calendar Station Goes Dark In-Reply-To: <20040626174751.EA626C6134@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20040626174751.EA626C6134@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <1088279771.1C79D113@r31.dngr.org> 250 watts directional DAYTIME?????? I am guessing it was to put a great signal into Dayton..... On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 1:51pm, Laurence Glavin wrote: > If you look at your copy of the 2004 Fybush Tower calendar for June, > you'll note that WCTM-AM 1130 in Eaton, OH is the outlet who towers > are pictured. Allaccess.com reports that the station has gone > temporarily dark but is being sold; eveidently health issues with > the owner. > Quizzical question: as I look at the 3-tower directional array > for a 250-watt daytimer, I was wondering why it's directional at > all. A check of fcc.gov indicates there are no same-frequency or > adjacent-frequency station for 100 kilometers...an 1140 > shows up only if you expand the search to 200km. > -- > _______________________________________________ > Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From raccoonradio@myway.com Sat Jun 26 16:31:38 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob) Date: Sat Jun 26 16:31:51 2004 Subject: After watching Moore's 9/11 Message-ID: <20040626203138.4983C12D28@mprdmxin.myway.com> I think he's making it known (or the spin goes) that this is an opinion piece, not a documentary. There are many threads about this movie at freerepublic.com, a conservative-based messageboard (with the type of reaction you'd expect). On that board, and in news items today, you'll find that rebuttals of Moore's projects are soon appearing in film and book form ("Michael Moore Hates America", "Michael and Me", "Michael Moore Is A Stupid White Man"). "Michael and Me" is a film by radio talk host Larry Elder (who will be getting a TV show come September). Expect Moore to go for the "Best Independent Film" Oscar with this; the fur will really fly if he tries to enter it under "Best Documentary". While I haven't seen the film, word has it that it indeed is an opinion piece that will probably mostly "preach to the choir". The Sean Hannity crowd will probably pass on it while Al Franken fans will flock to it. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From kvahey@tmail.com Sat Jun 26 16:50:04 2004 From: kvahey@tmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat Jun 26 16:50:16 2004 Subject: After watching Moore's 9/11 In-Reply-To: <20040626203138.4983C12D28@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20040626203138.4983C12D28@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <1088283007.3AC75195@r31.dngr.org> Movie did over 8M yesterday with under 1000 screens But you have to wonder, are the networks or any station that must exist under a politcal FCC afraid to anger Washington? Before somebody offers Watergate as a positive example keep in mind it was a newspaper who at the "time" had limited broadcast properties broke the story. It is something one must ponder On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 4:31pm, Bob wrote: > > I think he's making it known (or the spin goes) that this is an opinion > piece, not a documentary. From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Jun 26 17:50:08 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sat Jun 26 17:50:11 2004 Subject: After watching Moore's 9/11 References: <1088270618.5D5E83E@r5.dngr.org> Message-ID: <008501c45bc7$8c54e550$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Vahey" To: "Boston Radio Mailing List" Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 1:23 PM Subject: After watching Moore's 9/11 > Obviously he has insiders at the networks sending him copies of moments > Bush not looking very Presidential. An example is him sitting in the > Oval Office making faces at the camera just before he addressed the > nation that Iraq was being bombed. Is it fair game? Unless there is some sort of agreement that such out takes are "off the record," I say it is fair game. My reporter friends have always told me that everything is on the record, unless there is an agreement that something is off the record before the fact. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Jun 26 18:12:01 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sat Jun 26 18:12:04 2004 Subject: VP Candidate on the radio? Message-ID: <009901c45bca$9b681eb0$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Pat Lamarche of Maine is expected to be named the Green Party's candidate for Vice President this weekend. She is the co-host of the morning show on WEBB (B-98.5) Waterville. She uses the name "Jenny Judge" on the air. I assume that she will leave the station to campaign. LaMarche used to co-host the morning talk show on WGAN and left the station after getting arrested for OUI. From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Jun 26 19:07:12 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sat Jun 26 19:07:46 2004 Subject: And now for a little shameless self promotion . . . Message-ID: <00aa01c45bd2$6043c390$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> After more than 9 months off the air, I will be returning to the radio on Monday. I will be sitting in Monday and Tuesday morning as the guest co-host of the WGAN Morning News (talk show) on 560 WGAN. The station is having various conservatives fill-in as they seek a permanent replacement for the late Mike McCardle. It will be fun to be back on the radio and back on the show that I was producer of and regular substitute host on for two years from 1991 to 1993. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From dwcole@comcast.net Sat Jun 26 22:22:52 2004 From: dwcole@comcast.net (Dan C) Date: Sat Jun 26 22:23:13 2004 Subject: And now for a little shameless self promotion . . . References: <00aa01c45bd2$6043c390$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <000601c45bed$a6721e50$61f29318@HP310n> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Billings" > After more than 9 months off the air, I will be returning to the radio on > Monday. I will be sitting in Monday and Tuesday morning as the guest > co-host of the WGAN Morning News (talk show) on 560 WGAN. Well, this ought to make my morning interesting...two lawyers on the other side of the glass from me. :) Dan Cole Morning Anchor, WGAN From miscon@miscon.net Mon Jun 28 08:50:40 2004 From: miscon@miscon.net (Mission Control) Date: Mon Jun 28 08:50:48 2004 Subject: always assume... Message-ID: <200406280850.AA158662784@miscon.net> that a mic in the room is an open mic. that the camera is rolling. that everything is on the record. So it was told to me. Mike From billo@shoreham.net Mon Jun 28 11:59:10 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon Jun 28 11:59:32 2004 Subject: A Horse is a Horse? Message-ID: <000001c45d28$dac560e0$0200a8c0@boneill> Okay, I just heard it again. The Anheiser Busch spot. You know the one, where they are asking, "What would you rather have for president, a horse or part of a horse?" Clearly a thinly veiled political spot with A.B. favoring Kerry. How does this work in the wacky world of political advertising? Does this make it under the radar? Bill O'Neill From mamros@MIT.EDU Mon Jun 28 13:06:17 2004 From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros) Date: Mon Jun 28 13:06:20 2004 Subject: A Horse is a Horse? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:59:10 EDT." <000001c45d28$dac560e0$0200a8c0@boneill> Message-ID: <200406281706.i5SH6HAS012075@all-night-tool.mit.edu> >Okay, I just heard it again. The Anheiser Busch spot. You know the one, >where they are asking, >"What would you rather have for president, a horse or part of a horse?" > Clearly a thinly veiled political spot with A.B. favoring Kerry. How >does this work in the wacky world of political advertising? Does this make >it under the radar? Uh... no, it's not meant to be a political ad at all. To understand it, though, you'd have to have seen the ads Miller Brewing was running (on TV, at least) which tried to set up a mock presidential debate, only it was Miller vs. Bud, with Bud being represented by a (mute) horse, and Miller being represented by a guy who, quite frankly, was rather annoying. The Bud (Busch) radio ad is clearly a strike back at Miller's ad campaign, which doesn't seem to be as effective as Miller had perhaps hoped. (Though why the folks at Busch felt they had to respond back at all seems odd - isn't it considered bad form to make any mention of the Number 2 competitor if you're Number 1?) But it doesn't have anything to do with the real Presidential race. And I suspect neither Busch nor any other large company would want to be seen as favoring either side in that race; you'd risk alienating a good percentage of your customers if you did so. (Plus, I'm sure many would debate exactly who would be the "part of the horse". I have my opinion on the matter, of course, but I'm not about to discuss it on this list.) -Shawn Mamros E-mail to: mamros@mit.edu From miscon@miscon.net Mon Jun 28 13:14:43 2004 From: miscon@miscon.net (Mission Control) Date: Mon Jun 28 13:14:49 2004 Subject: A Horse is a Horse? Message-ID: <200406281314.AA115015790@miscon.net> I didn't hear it that way at all... just A.B.'s attempt at skewering the "political" suit vs. horse debate advert. Sometimes a beer ad is just a beer ad. Or is it? Mike btw, I thought it funny to hear the Budweiser lizards in a recent commercial... just don't call it a comeback. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Bill O'Neill" Reply-To: billo@shoreham.net Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:59:10 -0400 >Okay, I just heard it again. The Anheiser Busch spot. You know the one, where >they are asking, >"What would you rather have for president, a horse or part of a horse?" Clearly >a thinly veiled political spot with A.B. favoring Kerry. How does this work in >the wacky world of political advertising? Does this make it under the radar? > >Bill O'Neill > > From raccoonradio@myway.com Mon Jun 28 14:36:45 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon Jun 28 14:36:58 2004 Subject: A Horse is a Horse? Message-ID: <20040628183645.8C2FE3990@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>a thinly veiled political spot with A.B. favoring Kerry. But oddly enough isn't one of AB's other brands..."Bus(c)h"? :) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Tue Jun 29 00:28:06 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue Jun 29 00:27:35 2004 Subject: A Horse is a Horse? In-Reply-To: <200406281706.i5SH6HAS012075@all-night-tool.mit.edu> References: Your message of "Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:59:10 EDT." <000001c45d28$dac560e0$0200a8c0@boneill> Message-ID: <40E0B796.27996.5CFD25@localhost> On 28 Jun 2004 at 13:06, Shawn Mamros wrote: > But it doesn't have anything to do with the real Presidential race. > And I suspect neither Busch nor any other large company would want to be > seen as favoring either side in that race; you'd risk alienating a good > percentage of your customers if you did so. Quite so. As Henry Ford found out. Henry Ford was a very vocal and active anti-semite, until he saw that it was hurting auto sales. He then had a meeting with Justice Brandeis and publically announced that he had seen the error of his ways. To this day, though, there are Jews who will not buy Ford automobiles. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Jun 30 00:35:23 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed Jun 30 00:36:37 2004 Subject: A Horse is a Horse? In-Reply-To: <200406290437.AAA12872@colossus.bilow.com> References: <40E0B796.27996.5CFD25@localhost> Message-ID: <40E20ACB.15559.3598EF@localhost> On 29 Jun 2004 at 0:37, Brian Vita wrote: > > Quite so. As Henry Ford found out. Henry Ford was a very > > vocal and active anti-semite, until he saw that it was > > hurting auto sales. He then had a meeting with Justice > > Brandeis and publically announced that he had seen the error > > of his ways. To this day, though, there are Jews who will > > not buy Ford automobiles. > > > Yet they will buy Volkswagens. Some won't. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From sid@wrko.com Wed Jun 30 03:57:13 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Wed Jun 30 03:58:41 2004 Subject: A Horse is a Horse? Message-ID: >>To this day, though, there are Jews who will not buy Ford automobiles. Yet they will buy Volkswagens. Some won't.<< I've owned three VW's, and I've been asked why, as a Jew, I would own "Hitler's car." The answer is simple: 1) Hitler's dead, and Hitler never could have invented a car himself. He needed Ferdinand Porsche just as much as Porsche needed Hitler's money. 2) When does it end? When do we stop hating? If the only reason we don't buy a certain product is that its owner/inventor/financer hated us, then Hitler won. He taught us that the proper response to hate is more hate...and I would like to think that we're better than that. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF-WEEI AM/FM-WQSX-WRKO-WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 From brian_vita@cssinc.com Wed Jun 30 08:10:38 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Wed Jun 30 08:10:44 2004 Subject: A Horse is a Horse? References: Message-ID: <00e201c45e9b$41ca8630$6500a8c0@brianhome> > >>To this day, though, there are Jews who will not buy Ford automobiles. > > Yet they will buy Volkswagens. > > Some won't.<< > > I've owned three VW's, and I've been asked why, as a Jew, I would own "Hitler's car." The answer is simple: > > 1) Hitler's dead, and Hitler never could have invented a car himself. He needed Ferdinand Porsche just as much as Porsche needed Hitler's money. > > 2) When does it end? When do we stop hating? If the only reason we don't buy a certain product is that its owner/inventor/financer hated us, then Hitler won. He taught us that the proper response to hate is more hate...and I would like to think that we're better than that. > For the record, I wasn't saying that Jews shouldn't buy VW's. My point was the dichotomy between Jews not buying Fords vs Jews not buying VW's. Personally I think that not buying either because of WWII is absurd. If we were to carry the point further, many "mainstream" companies today were pushed into wartime service for Hitler. I believe that Siemens along with many other well known brands produced from him. Many, and I think that VW and Mercedes were on this list, used conscripted concentration camp labor. Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 75 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5626 USA Sales: (800)231-8849/Sales Fax (800)329-2775 Bus Ofc +1-978-538-7575/Business Ofc Fax +1-978-538-7550 www.cssinc.com From sid@wrko.com Wed Jun 30 08:32:50 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Wed Jun 30 08:33:44 2004 Subject: A Horse is a Horse? Message-ID: >>If we were to carry the point further, many "mainstream" companies today were pushed into wartime service for Hitler. I believe that Siemens along with many other well known brands produced from him. Many, and I think that VW and Mercedes were on this list, used conscripted concentration camp labor.<< They did because they had no choice. As is true in most dictatorships, all German labor was nationalized under the Deutcshe Arbeits Front (German Labor Front). If an industrial producer such as Volkswagen (which produced jeeps, amphibious vehicles and small airplane engines during the war) needed more laborers, they could not hire those laborers themselves...they had to request laborers from the DAF and had to take the people they were given. What gives me the shivers is to see in the Boston area trucks from an elevator service firm known as Thyssen-Krupp. Fritz Thyssen and Alfred Krupp were two of the industrialists who bankrolled Hitler in his early years as dictator, in the hopes that they could control him later on. IIRC, both were convicted as war criminals and were hanged. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Wed Jun 30 10:51:23 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Jun 30 10:51:37 2004 Subject: WMWM doo wop DJ passes on Message-ID: <20040630145123.7BDA712D16@mprdmxin.myway.com> One of the hosts of WMWM's longtime doowop show "Uncle Henry's Basement" has died. Bob "Boppin' Bob" Ellison, 62, of Peabody, used to co-host with his wife Shirley. He also did outside appearances playing doo-wop music at dances. My condolences to Shirley and to Bob's family and friends. ELLISON -- In Indianapolis Ind., June 25, Robert H. "BBop," 62, husband of Shirley E. (Hicks) Ellison of Peabody. Relatives and friends are invited to attend a celebration of his life, which will be held on Thursday, from 5 to 9 p.m. at the Italian American Citizens Club, 7 Blaney Ave., Peabody. A private family funeral service will be held. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From scott@fybush.com Wed Jun 30 18:37:06 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed Jun 30 18:37:16 2004 Subject: A Horse is a Horse? In-Reply-To: <40E20ACB.15559.3598EF@localhost> References: <40E0B796.27996.5CFD25@localhost> <40E20ACB.15559.3598EF@localhost> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20040630183553.01d42d88@gwind.pair.com> At 12:35 AM 6/30/2004, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >On 29 Jun 2004 at 0:37, Brian Vita wrote: > > > > Quite so. As Henry Ford found out. Henry Ford was a very > > > vocal and active anti-semite, until he saw that it was > > > hurting auto sales. He then had a meeting with Justice > > > Brandeis and publically announced that he had seen the error > > > of his ways. To this day, though, there are Jews who will > > > not buy Ford automobiles. > > > > > Yet they will buy Volkswagens. > >Some won't. This one did, and regrets it from time to time. Not because of the obvious association, but because the radio's a piece of #$&* and the overall build quality's not much better. (Passats and Touaregs, unlike my Jetta, are still built in Deutschland and haven't been outsourced to Mexico. They don't have the same QC problems, or so I hear.) s From scott@fybush.com Wed Jun 30 18:39:38 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed Jun 30 18:41:11 2004 Subject: A Horse is a Horse? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20040630183843.01d285b8@gwind.pair.com> >What gives me the shivers is to see in the Boston area trucks from an >elevator service firm known as Thyssen-Krupp. Fritz Thyssen and Alfred >Krupp were two of the industrialists who bankrolled Hitler in his early >years as dictator, in the hopes that they could control him later >on. IIRC, both were convicted as war criminals and were hanged. ISTR that it was Thyssen that manufactured the gas used in the gas chambers. -s (way off topic, but also 2000 miles west of our moderator, who's dependent on my continued goodwill towards him if he wants to see neat stuff in Chicago next week... ;-) From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Wed Jun 30 18:52:19 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed Jun 30 18:52:22 2004 Subject: A Horse is a Horse? In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.0.20040630183843.01d285b8@gwind.pair.com> References: <6.0.1.1.0.20040630183843.01d285b8@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <200406302252.i5UMqJO0058302@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > -s (way off topic, but also 2000 miles west of our moderator, who's > dependent on my continued goodwill towards him if he wants to see neat > stuff in Chicago next week... ;-) And who was going to get you Milwaukee airchecks? -GAWollman From billings@suscom-maine.net Wed Jun 30 19:16:37 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Wed Jun 30 19:16:43 2004 Subject: VP Candidate on the radio? Message-ID: <005201c45ef8$4b61af90$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> WEEB's Pat Lamarche is now the Green Party's candidate for Vice President. She said she would like to continue as the co-host of the morning show on Cumulus's WEBB Waterville, which is a country station with studios in Augusta and calls itself B-98.5. Lamarche uses the name Jenny Judge on the air. She was once the co-host of the morning talk show on WGAN, but left her job after being arresting for driving drunk. Lamarche says she wants to continue in her job but says she was "disinvited" from being on the show this week. She said she did not know if that decision was permanent. Wouldn't the station run into equal access issues if she was on the air in the 60 days before the election? The Greens are an official party in Maine so she will be on the ballot here. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From radiotony@comcast.net Wed Jun 30 19:21:40 2004 From: radiotony@comcast.net (tony schinella) Date: Wed Jun 30 19:21:43 2004 Subject: VP Candidate on the radio? References: <005201c45ef8$4b61af90$41503f42@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <009801c45ef8$ffefc320$6400a8c0@tony> Equal access? Hahahah. Surely you jest. Best, Tony Schinella radiotony@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Billings" To: "Boston Radio" Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 7:16 PM Subject: VP Candidate on the radio? > WEEB's Pat Lamarche is now the Green Party's candidate for Vice President. > She said she would like to continue as the co-host of the morning show on > Cumulus's WEBB Waterville, which is a country station with studios in > Augusta and calls itself B-98.5. Lamarche uses the name Jenny Judge on the > air. She was once the co-host of the morning talk show on WGAN, but left > her job after being arresting for driving drunk. > > Lamarche says she wants to continue in her job but says she was "disinvited" > from being on the show this week. She said she did not know if that > decision was permanent. > > Wouldn't the station run into equal access issues if she was on the air in > the 60 days before the election? The Greens are an official party in Maine > so she will be on the ballot here. > > -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine > > From ssmyth@psu.edu Wed Jun 30 19:22:41 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Wed Jun 30 19:22:52 2004 Subject: VP Candidate on the radio? Message-ID: <200406302322.TAA27463@webmail9.cac.psu.edu> On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:16:37 +0000, "Dan Billings" wrote: > Lamarche says she wants to continue in her job but says she was "disinvited" > from being on the show this week. She said she did not know if that > decision was permanent. > > Wouldn't the station run into equal access issues if she was on the air in > the 60 days before the election? The Greens are an official party in Maine > so she will be on the ballot here. Does the fact she uses a pseudonym on air affect this? Of course she's well known in Maine for her real name, I would imagine, since that's what I've been told she used at WGAN. From sid@wrko.com Wed Jun 30 19:24:47 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Wed Jun 30 19:26:39 2004 Subject: A Horse is a Horse? Message-ID: >>ISTR that it was Thyssen that manufactured the gas used in the gas chambers.<< ...among others. I.G. Farben, the giant chemical company, made most of the Zyklon-B gas that was used to murder Jews, Gypsies, etc. Farben was the parent company of Bayer (as in Bayer Aspirin). Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF-WEEI AM/FM-WQSX-WRKO-WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 From Dfaneuf@WBUR.BU.EDU Wed Jun 30 19:34:36 2004 From: Dfaneuf@WBUR.BU.EDU (Dave Faneuf) Date: Wed Jun 30 21:01:12 2004 Subject: Stephanie Urban's son Message-ID: <40E315CC.7521.1FF4C3@localhost> I just wanted to pass this along to anyone who worked with Stephanie over her long career in Boston radion. Stephanie's 18 year old son Ian did Monday following an accident. Services are scheduled for Thursday (7/1) at Temple Beth Amm, 300 Pleasant St Framingham. The family is asking no flowers be sent, memorial obervance and donations in Ian's memory will be announced at the service. Please pass this along to anyone who knows or worked with Stephanie. Thanks Dave From billo@shoreham.net Wed Jun 30 21:01:56 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed Jun 30 21:02:07 2004 Subject: Stern-On Message-ID: <002501c45f07$024347b0$0200a8c0@boneill> I guess the "big announcement" on Stern this morning is that he will be back on CC and in other dropped markets. Any other buzz on that? Bill O'Neill From billo@shoreham.net Wed Jun 30 21:24:09 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed Jun 30 21:24:15 2004 Subject: Stephanie Urban's son In-Reply-To: <40E315CC.7521.1FF4C3@localhost> Message-ID: <002601c45f0a$1c37b0e0$0200a8c0@boneill> Dave Faneuf writes: > Stephanie's 18 year old son Ian did > Monday following an accident. How horrible. Our prayers go out to their family and friends. A parent's worst fear. Bill O'Neill