From ssmyth@psu.edu Sun Aug 1 18:24:52 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Sun Aug 1 18:24:56 2004 Subject: Sports guys to news Message-ID: <000101c47816$5d8f42e0$98433c18@Sean> I can think of a bunch of guys who've made the transition lately. Bob Halloran. Gary Gillis did it for a while. Mark Kadzik (probably misspelled his name) on WBZ Radio. Alan Segal does some news stuff, too. There's a couple other examples from this market but I can't think of them now. I know the market for sports-only jobs is always tough (since there's more demand for sports jobs, it seems), but it seems like this has happened a lot in Boston lately. From markwats@comcast.net Sun Aug 1 19:10:41 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sun Aug 1 19:10:52 2004 Subject: Sports guys to news References: <000101c47816$5d8f42e0$98433c18@Sean> Message-ID: <001c01c4781c$c6701c70$6f918318@Mark> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Smyth" To: "'Boston Radio Interest'" Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 6:24 PM Subject: Sports guys to news > I can think of a bunch of guys who've made the >transition lately. Bob Halloran. Gary Gillis did it for a >while. Mark Kadzik (probably misspelled his name) on WBZ Radio. Alan Segal does some news stuff, too. >There's a couple other examples from this market but I >can't think of them now. Ed Harding on Channel 5 went from weekend sports anchor to weekday 5-7 AM news co-anchor. Also, Frank Mallicoat on Channel 56 went from sports reporter to weeknight news co-anchor. Also at Channel 56, it seems they have a new weekend meterologist, Joe Venuti, who replaced Bonnie Schneider in that post. Schneider is now doing news reporting as well as some entertainment stuff as well. So it's not just sports reporters making the switch to news. Makes one wonder if it was the reporter's choice or the news director's choice for these changes. BTW, Bob Halloran does double duty on weekend 6 & 11 PM news on Channel 5. He co-anchors the news and also is sports anchor on same newscasts. Mark Watson From ssmyth@psu.edu Sun Aug 1 20:24:50 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Sun Aug 1 20:24:53 2004 Subject: Sports guys to news In-Reply-To: <001c01c4781c$c6701c70$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <000001c47827$20333120$98433c18@Sean> Mark writes: > Ed Harding on Channel 5 went from weekend sports anchor to > weekday 5-7 AM news co-anchor. Also, Frank Mallicoat on > Channel 56 went from sports reporter to weeknight news > co-anchor. The most blatant example is Gene Lavanchy's jump to Channel 25, and I don't know how I forgot that in my initial post. Add Scott Wahle's morning news gig on Channels 4/38 to the list. > Makes one wonder > if it was the reporter's choice or the news director's choice > for these changes. That's what I'm wondering, too. From markwats@comcast.net Tue Aug 3 20:51:56 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Tue Aug 3 20:52:07 2004 Subject: Mets Announcer Bob Murphy Has Died Message-ID: <002d01c479bd$3ea50b00$6f918318@Mark> Just read an AP story on line that reports the passing of Bob Murphy, longtime announcer of New York Mets baseball on radio & TV from the team's beginnings in 1962 until he retired last September. He died today in Florida at the age of 79 after a brief bout with lung cancer. According to the story, Murphy's broadcasting career started in 1954 working Boston Red Sox games. He then worked in Baltimore in 1960 & 1961, then took one of the three TV & radio positions for the Mets when they began playing in 1962, calling over 6.000 games on TV & radio including their 1969 & 1986 World Series victories. Who did Bob Murphy work with on Red Sox games? Were they on WHDH radio back in the 50's? Sounds like a job for Donna Halper. Mark Watson From ssmyth@psu.edu Tue Aug 3 20:57:26 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Tue Aug 3 20:57:35 2004 Subject: Mets Announcer Bob Murphy Has Died Message-ID: <200408040057.UAA22492@webmail9.cac.psu.edu> On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 20:51:56 +0000, "Mark Watson" wrote: > Just read an AP story on line that reports the passing of Bob Murphy, > longtime announcer of New York Mets baseball on radio & TV from the team's > beginnings in 1962 until he retired last September. He died today in Florida > at the age of 79 after a brief bout with lung cancer. Sadly, there will not be another happy recap... From DonKelley@aol.com Tue Aug 3 22:49:09 2004 From: DonKelley@aol.com (DonKelley@aol.com) Date: Tue Aug 3 22:49:23 2004 Subject: Mets Announcer Bob Murphy Has Died Message-ID: <0E388E8E.4A4E2397.0238A7FB@aol.com> In the 1950's Bob Murphy did the Red Sox play-by-play during the middle three innings. The middle reliever, as it were. Curt Gowdy was the starter and closer, doing the first three and last three innings. When Bob Murphy left to do the Orioles games in 1960 he was replaced by Med Martin. When Curt Gowdy left (1965?) he was replaced my Ken Coleman. Red Sox radio broadcasts were on WHDH. Your dial's alive at 85. TV games - not that many - were on WNAC-TV Channel 7. From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Aug 4 02:17:36 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed Aug 4 02:18:26 2004 Subject: Mets Announcer Bob Murphy Has Died In-Reply-To: <002d01c479bd$3ea50b00$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040804021105.02ac2bc0@pop.registeredsite.com> >Mark wrote-- > > According to the story, Murphy's broadcasting career started in 1954 >working Boston Red Sox games. He then worked in Baltimore in 1960 & 1961, >then took one of the three TV & radio positions for the Mets when they began >playing in 1962, calling over 6.000 games on TV & radio including their 1969 >& 1986 World Series victories. Who did Bob Murphy work with on Red Sox >games? Were they on WHDH radio back in the 50's? Sounds like a job for Donna >Halper. Well, it's nice to have a job... As Don Kelley pointed out, yes Bob Murphy was paired with Curt Gowdy in the late 50s-- one of my earliest Red Sox memories is of them doing the games on WHDH... I think they were sponsored by Narragansett Beer (Hi Neighbor, Have a 'Gansett), and Atlantic Gasoline (Atlantic Keeps Your Car on the Go), among other sponsors. I probably have some old Red Sox programs that list the two of them, and yes it was prior to Ned Martin-- my recollection was that Ned Martin was hired in 1961. From tklaundry@juno.com Wed Aug 4 17:57:10 2004 From: tklaundry@juno.com (Dave Faneuf) Date: Wed Aug 4 17:56:30 2004 Subject: test Message-ID: <20040804.175711.-281579.4.tklaundry@juno.com> test to see if it bounces From billo@shoreham.net Wed Aug 4 18:29:26 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed Aug 4 18:29:46 2004 Subject: test In-Reply-To: <20040804.175711.-281579.4.tklaundry@juno.com> Message-ID: <006f01c47a72$8049d800$0300a8c0@boneill> Dave Faneuf suggests: > test to see if it bounces > Um, Dave, _what_ bounces? We're all friends here, but there _are_ limits . Radio. Bill O'Neill From sid.whitaker@unh.edu Wed Aug 4 22:11:33 2004 From: sid.whitaker@unh.edu (Sid Whitaker) Date: Wed Aug 4 22:11:42 2004 Subject: outdated stuff Message-ID: <1091671893.41119755832dc@webmail.unh.edu> Just listening to the Sox on WJAE and wondering when the "Pedro, Nomar, and the Sox..." bumpers will be updated to reflect Nomar's departure... or the spot running during Sox 'casts that says, "hey Sox fans, looks like it's finally going to the Sox' year..." Hmmmm...Sox are 8 1/2 games behind the Yankees and 1/2 game behind Texas in the wild card and it's Aug 4... But my personal favorite...The Univ of New Hampshire fall 2004 course schedule which advises that weather-related cancellations can be heard on WHEB, AM-75 (!) (how long as WHEB-AM been dark? 20 years?) Sid From scott@fybush.com Wed Aug 4 22:39:56 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed Aug 4 22:39:22 2004 Subject: Sox on 96.7?? Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040804223658.0c15bbf8@gwind.pair.com> A fellow DXer out in Omaha, Matt Sittel, was hearing lots of New England when the skip came up tonight - including Sox play-by-play on 96.7. There's no 96.7 on the "official" WEEI affiliate list, and the 96.7s in Boothbay Harbor, Brattleboro and the Burlington market are owned by different clusters than the Sox affiliates in each market. The Sox do have both WLTN Littleton NH and WGIN Rochester NH on their list, and both stations are co-owned with 96.7's (WLTN-FM Lisbon NH and WQSO Rochester). Anyone know if, by some chance, the Sox ended up simulcast on one of those FMs tonight? Just another one of those DX mysteries... s From jjlehmann@comcast.net Wed Aug 4 22:45:25 2004 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Wed Aug 4 22:45:33 2004 Subject: Sox on 96.7?? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040804223658.0c15bbf8@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <002101c47a96$45fb32b0$6400a8c0@AMD> The Sox are carried on 96.7 WCME. I've heard it myself many times in tropo. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Scott Fybush Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 10:40 PM To: bri@bostonradio.org Cc: mcsittel@cox.net Subject: Sox on 96.7?? A fellow DXer out in Omaha, Matt Sittel, was hearing lots of New England when the skip came up tonight - including Sox play-by-play on 96.7. There's no 96.7 on the "official" WEEI affiliate list, and the 96.7s in Boothbay Harbor, Brattleboro and the Burlington market are owned by different clusters than the Sox affiliates in each market. The Sox do have both WLTN Littleton NH and WGIN Rochester NH on their list, and both stations are co-owned with 96.7's (WLTN-FM Lisbon NH and WQSO Rochester). Anyone know if, by some chance, the Sox ended up simulcast on one of those FMs tonight? Just another one of those DX mysteries... s From scott@fybush.com Wed Aug 4 22:49:04 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed Aug 4 22:48:28 2004 Subject: Sox on 96.7?? In-Reply-To: <002101c47a96$45fb32b0$6400a8c0@AMD> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040804223658.0c15bbf8@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040804224628.0c15a738@gwind.pair.com> Thanks, Jeff! That's an awful lot of overlap with WJJB-FM 95.5 Topsham, which carries the Sox as part of its WJAE 1440 simulcast... s At 10:45 PM 8/4/2004 -0400, Jeff Lehmann wrote: >The Sox are carried on 96.7 WCME. I've heard it myself many times in >tropo. > >Jeff Lehmann >Hanson, MA From markwats@comcast.net Wed Aug 4 22:57:42 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Wed Aug 4 22:57:52 2004 Subject: outdated stuff References: <1091671893.41119755832dc@webmail.unh.edu> Message-ID: <005e01c47a97$fb2ff110$6f918318@Mark> Sid Whitaker wrote: > But my personal favorite...The Univ of New Hampshire > fall 2004 course schedule which advises that weather->related cancellations can be heard on WHEB, AM-75 > (!) (how long as WHEB-AM been dark? 20 years?) As recently as last year, in the printed bus schedule booklets for Plymouth & Brockton Bus Co. line runs from Cape Cod & South Shore areas to Boston, in the "fine print" if you will (the rules, policies, etc.) it had a list of radio stations that would air any weather or emergency related service changes or cancellations in bus service. Among the stations listed as recently as the Spring 2003 schedule booklet: WHDH 850 kc. I haven't seen a 2004 schedule, so I don't know if they've found out that WHDH disappeared in 1994 and WEEI now occupies 850. Mark Watson From lawrencemedia@yahoo.com Thu Aug 5 00:42:25 2004 From: lawrencemedia@yahoo.com (Roy Lawrence) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:42:34 2004 Subject: outdated stuff Message-ID: <20040805044225.66471.qmail@web51305.mail.yahoo.com> Close! WHEB-AM 750 went dark in 1987. Roy Lawrence San Francisco, CA *A WHEB Alum* Sid Whitaker asked: (how long as WHEB-AM been dark? 20 years?) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Aug 5 07:39:10 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu Aug 5 07:40:04 2004 Subject: outdated stuff References: <20040805044225.66471.qmail@web51305.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002601c47ae0$f7ddfcc0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I don't know whether my memory is playing tricks on me, but I could SWEAR that one Saturday late afternoon or early evening (WHEB ran full power until Atlanta sunset, IIRC; Atlanta sunset must average close to an hour after Boston sunset), just weeks before WHEB signed off for the last time, I was parked in my car on Mt Auburn St in Cambridge in front of what was then Pentimento Restaurant, waiting for Susan to arrive and join me for dinner at Pentimento. I was listening on the car radio to WHEB in the splatter from WJIB, which is only about half a mile away. I recall that this was AFTER WJIB started airing LTAR. And LTAR hasn't yet been on the air for 10 years. (No, LTAR wasn't on as I sat listening to the first-adjacent station; LTAR has never been on on Saturday evening.) If my memory serves me--and it may not--this would place WHEB's signoff in 1994 or thereabouts. Even if I am wrong about this incident having occurred after LTAR started, it could not have taken place in 1987, because my wife died in September 1988 and I didn't meet Susan until shortly after that. Of course, I suppose I could have been listening to WVNE and not WHEB, but it's hard to imagine my doing that for any length of time under ANY circumstances. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Roy Lawrence To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 12:42 AM Subject: outdated stuff > Close! WHEB-AM 750 went dark in 1987. > > Roy Lawrence > San Francisco, CA > *A WHEB Alum* > > Sid Whitaker asked: > (how long as WHEB-AM been dark? 20 years?) > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From steveord@bit-net.com Thu Aug 5 08:34:57 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu Aug 5 08:34:53 2004 Subject: outdated stuff In-Reply-To: <002601c47ae0$f7ddfcc0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <20040805044225.66471.qmail@web51305.mail.yahoo.com> <002601c47ae0$f7ddfcc0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040805083047.01b086d0@pop3.bit-net.com> Dan Strassberg wrote: >I was listening on the car radio to WHEB in the splatter from >WJIB, which is only about half a mile away. I recall that this was AFTER >WJIB started airing LTAR. And LTAR hasn't yet been on the air for 10 years. >(No, LTAR wasn't on as I sat listening to the first-adjacent station; LTAR >has never been on on Saturday evening.) If my memory serves me--and it may >not--this would place WHEB's signoff in 1994 or thereabouts. Even if I am >wrong about this incident having occurred after LTAR started, it could not >have taken place in 1987, because my wife died in September 1988 and I >didn't meet Susan until shortly after that. I also recall WHEB still being on the air in the early 90s, though not as late as '94. According to Ed Brouder's book "Granite & Ether" 750 went dark 1/31/91, which sounds about right. From gary@garysicecream.com Thu Aug 5 17:39:31 2004 From: gary@garysicecream.com (gic) Date: Thu Aug 5 17:39:50 2004 Subject: another Meninoism Message-ID: <043c01c47b34$b1b6ce80$6500a8c0@office> from the man whose PSA for prostate cancer says "prostrate cancer", today Boston Mayor Tom Menino was shown saying (on Channel 5).... "the perforation of guns across the state........" I assume he meant the "proliferation" -g From sid@wrko.com Thu Aug 5 18:25:42 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Thu Aug 5 18:26:17 2004 Subject: another Meninoism Message-ID: >>from the man whose PSA for prostate cancer says "prostrate cancer"<< Maybe he was lying down when he said it? Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Aug 5 17:03:20 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Aug 5 19:19:01 2004 Subject: Sox on 96.7?? Message-ID: <20040805210320.D29AFC610C@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> >From: "Jeff Lehmann" >Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 22:45:25 -0400 >To: "'Scott Fybush'" , >Subject: RE: Sox on 96.7?? > The Sox are carried on 96.7 WCME. I've heard it myself many times in > tropo. > > Jeff Lehmann > Hanson, MA > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf > Of Scott Fybush > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 10:40 PM > To: bri@bostonradio.org > Cc: mcsittel@cox.net > Subject: Sox on 96.7?? I can't ever remember getting "tropo" on a station as weak as a typical class A rim-shotter. Although it was a Red Flops pbp, could it have been the opposing team's outlet? I don't know what team the Carmine Hose were playing, but could it have been one of those markets where the old-style class A's are now allowed higher power (like KRTS in Houston, 92.1 with 100kw)? -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From jjlehmann@comcast.net Thu Aug 5 19:46:20 2004 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Thu Aug 5 19:46:21 2004 Subject: Sox on 96.7?? In-Reply-To: <20040805210320.D29AFC610C@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <003d01c47b46$6e722cc0$6400a8c0@AMD> WCME is a class B1 station, which is equal to 25,000 watts. I have, however, gotten many class A stations in tropo. All it takes is a good antenna, and a good tuner. If there's anyone that doesn't believe me that WCME carries the Sox, and that I heard them, I'll be happy to send the MP3 of the legal ID during a game that I recorded last summer from here in Hanson, MA. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -----Original Message----- From: Laurence Glavin [mailto:lglavin@lycos.com] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 5:03 PM To: Jeff Lehmann; 'Scott Fybush'; bri@bostonradio.org Cc: mcsittel@cox.net Subject: RE: Sox on 96.7?? >From: "Jeff Lehmann" >Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 22:45:25 -0400 >To: "'Scott Fybush'" , >Subject: RE: Sox on 96.7?? > The Sox are carried on 96.7 WCME. I've heard it myself many times in > tropo. > > Jeff Lehmann > Hanson, MA > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf > Of Scott Fybush > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 10:40 PM > To: bri@bostonradio.org > Cc: mcsittel@cox.net > Subject: Sox on 96.7?? I can't ever remember getting "tropo" on a station as weak as a typical class A rim-shotter. Although it was a Red Flops pbp, could it have been the opposing team's outlet? I don't know what team the Carmine Hose were playing, but could it have been one of those markets where the old-style class A's are now allowed higher power (like KRTS in Houston, 92.1 with 100kw)? -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default .asp?SRC=lycos10 From lawrencemedia@yahoo.com Thu Aug 5 20:04:16 2004 From: lawrencemedia@yahoo.com (Roy Lawrence) Date: Thu Aug 5 20:04:25 2004 Subject: outdated stuff In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20040805083047.01b086d0@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <20040806000416.41751.qmail@web51307.mail.yahoo.com> The WHEB-AM tower was torn down in early-mid 1991 to pave way for the construction of the current 459' FM tower currently located at the rear of the Lafayette Plaza. The tower was required to be dismanted as per the City of Portsmouth. The remaining tower (the original FM stick) was able to stay as so to allow for STL, two-way communications. The 1987 sign-off figure is from the best of my memory, which can be fuzzy from time to time. I'm sure Ed Brouder is probably right as the time frame makes sense. That was a station I always wished could have gotten a night time license, moving it's TX into Maine. It had a killer signal. The NIMBY pressure prevented that though. Roy Lawrence San Francisco, CA --- SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Dan Strassberg wrote: > > >I was listening on the car radio to WHEB in the > splatter from > >WJIB, which is only about half a mile away. I > recall that this was AFTER > >WJIB started airing LTAR. And LTAR hasn't yet been > on the air for 10 years. > >(No, LTAR wasn't on as I sat listening to the > first-adjacent station; LTAR > >has never been on on Saturday evening.) If my > memory serves me--and it may > >not--this would place WHEB's signoff in 1994 or > thereabouts. Even if I am > >wrong about this incident having occurred after > LTAR started, it could not > >have taken place in 1987, because my wife died in > September 1988 and I > >didn't meet Susan until shortly after that. > > I also recall WHEB still being on the air in the > early 90s, though not as > late as '94. According to Ed Brouder's book > "Granite & Ether" 750 went > dark 1/31/91, which sounds about right. > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Aug 5 18:37:03 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Aug 5 20:13:50 2004 Subject: Promotion By WAAF Not a Barn Burner Message-ID: <20040805223703.ABEABE5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> Worcester's (or should I say Westborough's) WAAF used its formidable clout to promote an "appearance" in Salisbury, Mass. by that fine, upstanding "artist" Snoop Dogg. Wow, um maybe 'wow' is not a good choice of word considering 107.3's history... GOLL-lee, but the authorities in that seacoast town were warned to be ready for multitudinous hordes of folks that night. Well, it turned out, the numbers advertised fell short and SD became spooked by all the gendarmes. Read all about it at: http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2004/08/05/rapper_gets_mixed_review/ I wonder if the folks who DID show up got their $99 back. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From billo@shoreham.net Thu Aug 5 20:14:41 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu Aug 5 20:14:48 2004 Subject: another Meninoism In-Reply-To: <043c01c47b34$b1b6ce80$6500a8c0@office> Message-ID: <000c01c47b4a$5f4859f0$0300a8c0@boneill> > today Boston Mayor Tom Menino was shown saying (on Channel 5).... "the > perforation of guns across the state........" I assume he meant the > "proliferation" > > -g ...unless the mayor was speaking to holes in Homeland Security....nah. Bill O'Neill From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Aug 5 18:43:48 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Aug 5 20:17:07 2004 Subject: another Meninoism Message-ID: <20040805224348.ECB6EE5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> From: "gic" Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 17:39:31 -0400 To: "Boston radio e-mail list" Subject: another Meninoism > from the man whose PSA for prostate cancer says "prostrate cancer", > > today Boston Mayor Tom Menino was shown saying (on Channel 5).... "the > perforation of guns across the state........" I assume he meant the > "proliferation" > > -g That's truly minor compared to what "Dubya" said to day (08/05). If it isn't the lead on "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart" it's only because it's way too easy! Hint: GWB indicated that the USA may be its own worst enemy. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From sven@gordsven.com Thu Aug 5 21:25:56 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Thu Aug 5 21:26:05 2004 Subject: WJIB's website? What happened? In-Reply-To: <20040805210320.D29AFC610C@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: Seems like the page is gone -- the link from Radio-Locator doesn't work anymore. :( -- Stephanie Weil New York City From scott@fybush.com Fri Aug 6 00:24:11 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri Aug 6 00:23:42 2004 Subject: Sox on 96.7?? In-Reply-To: <003d01c47b46$6e722cc0$6400a8c0@AMD> References: <20040805210320.D29AFC610C@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040806002123.028dfa90@gwind.pair.com> This was E-skip, not tropo...but Jeff's point holds: good propagation knows no low-power limits. People have logged translators via e-skip and tropo; it's not uncommon for a good trop opening here in Rochester to bring in a couple of translators from Syracuse, 90 miles away. And Laurence, it's been many years now since the FCC broke down the class/channel restrictions. You can now have stations of any class on any channel, and when you get outside the crowded northeast, it's not at all uncommon to have things like full class C 100 kW facilities on 92.7 or 94.3. s At 07:46 PM 8/5/2004 -0400, Jeff Lehmann wrote: >WCME is a class B1 station, which is equal to 25,000 watts. I have, >however, gotten many class A stations in tropo. All it takes is a good >antenna, and a good tuner. > >If there's anyone that doesn't believe me that WCME carries the Sox, and >that I heard them, I'll be happy to send the MP3 of the legal ID during >a game that I recorded last summer from here in Hanson, MA. > >Jeff Lehmann >Hanson, MA > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Laurence Glavin [mailto:lglavin@lycos.com] >Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 5:03 PM >To: Jeff Lehmann; 'Scott Fybush'; bri@bostonradio.org >Cc: mcsittel@cox.net >Subject: RE: Sox on 96.7?? > > >From: "Jeff Lehmann" > >Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 22:45:25 -0400 > >To: "'Scott Fybush'" , > >Subject: RE: Sox on 96.7?? > > > The Sox are carried on 96.7 WCME. I've heard it myself many times in > > tropo. > > > > Jeff Lehmann > > Hanson, MA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On >Behalf > > Of Scott Fybush > > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 10:40 PM > > To: bri@bostonradio.org > > Cc: mcsittel@cox.net > > Subject: Sox on 96.7?? > >I can't ever remember getting "tropo" on a station as weak as a typical >class A rim-shotter. Although it was a Red Flops pbp, could it have >been >the opposing team's outlet? I don't know what team the Carmine >Hose were playing, but could it have been one of those markets >where the old-style class A's are now allowed higher power >(like KRTS in Houston, 92.1 with 100kw)? > >-- >_______________________________________________ >Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages >http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default >.asp?SRC=lycos10 From raccoonradio@myway.com Fri Aug 6 02:19:25 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Aug 6 02:19:33 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad Message-ID: <20040806061925.43D2F3950@mprdmxin.myway.com> http://humaneventsonline.com.edgesuite.net/unfit_pdf.html The conservative website Human Events has obtained a letter from lawyers for John Kerry and the Dem. National Committee, sent to TV stations "suggesting" they should refuse an ad for a group called Swift Boat Veterans for the Truth. The lawyers dispute the claims of the ad which has several Vietnam veterans saying that Kerry "lied to get his Silver Star"; that Kerry is unfit to lead, etc. As the ad prepares to hit the airwaves, a book related to it has had massive pre-orders (it's #1 on amazon.com). This looks like a massive effort by these lawyers to get the ad taken off the air. Send lawyers, guns, and money (well, at least lawyers and money): The (bleep) has hit the fan... :) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From brian_vita@cssinc.com Fri Aug 6 10:12:39 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Fri Aug 6 10:12:45 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad In-Reply-To: <20040806061925.43D2F3950@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <000001c47bbf$6ee3cf50$c3ec33d1@alvin> The Kerry campaign has already been recruiting lawyers to stand at the polling places to monitor (intimidate) the vote and challenge any questionable practices (Questionable practices is places where the tally doesn't go their way). I guess that the theory is that if you can't win at the ballot box, take it to the courts. > > > > http://humaneventsonline.com.edgesuite.net/unfit_pdf.html > > The conservative website Human Events has obtained a letter > from lawyers for John Kerry and the Dem. National Committee, > sent to TV stations "suggesting" they should refuse an ad for > a group called Swift Boat Veterans for the Truth. The lawyers > dispute the claims of the ad which has several Vietnam > veterans saying that Kerry "lied to get his Silver Star"; > that Kerry is unfit to lead, etc. As the ad prepares to hit > the airwaves, a book related to it has had massive pre-orders > (it's #1 on amazon.com). This looks like a massive effort by > these lawyers to get the ad taken off the air. > > Send lawyers, guns, and money (well, at least lawyers and > money): The (bleep) has hit the fan... :) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com > From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Aug 6 10:39:34 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri Aug 6 10:40:22 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad In-Reply-To: <000001c47bbf$6ee3cf50$c3ec33d1@alvin> References: <20040806061925.43D2F3950@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040806103249.02728dd0@pop.registeredsite.com> At 10:12 AM 8/6/2004 -0400, you wrote: >The Kerry campaign has already been recruiting lawyers to stand at the >polling places to monitor (intimidate) the vote and challenge any >questionable practices (Questionable practices is places where the tally >doesn't go their way). I guess that the theory is that if you can't win at >the ballot box, take it to the courts. Umm, at the risk of turning this into another of those endless political discussions, there were so many voting irregularities in Florida in the last election that every major newspaper (both right-wing and left-wing) now acknowlesges they should have paid closer attention. Some voting machines still don't function properly, and more than 50,000 voters were arbitrarily (and erroneously) tossed off the Florida voting list in 2000, as has been thoroughly documented. I don't blame Kerry, or anybody else, from wanting to monitor this election's proceedings. It's not about trying to get the election to 'go their way'-- it's about making sure the votes are all counted. As for the other legal matter, the outrageous negative ad being run about Kerry's war record, even John McCain and one of the veterans originally quoted in the political ad agree the ad is deceptive and based on smear tactics rather than truth. Today's Globe front-page states that one of the alleged "veterans who served with Kerry" admits he had NO first-hand knowledge of Kerry's service and only signed on because he hated Kerry's anti-war actions later on. McCain is right-- like him or not, Kerry was a war hero and to smear him for political purposes is despicable. The lawyers are doing what I would expect-- fighting against slander. We don't need the sort of campaign tactic that spreads lies about the other side, no matter whether it's Republicans or Democrats doing it. From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Aug 6 10:51:47 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri Aug 6 10:51:59 2004 Subject: another Meninoism References: <000c01c47b4a$5f4859f0$0300a8c0@boneill> Message-ID: <001b01c47bc4$f18a5dc0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> One of the AccuWeather guys on WBZ always signs off with "This is meteorolist ." (Might be Gary Schwindenhammer--a guy with more letters in his surname (15) than I have in mine (10).) My assumption is that, like the President, who can't pronounce nuclear (but doubtless CAN say "new" and "clear" as separate words), this guy can't say meteorologist but could say meteor and ologist as two separate words. It's got to be some form of brain damage. In Bush's case, it's probably from too much alcohol, which he admits having consumed in his younger days. But the AccuWeather guy? A small stroke, maybe? Of course, I suppose he could be a recovering alcoholic, just like W. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill O'Neill To: 'gic' ; 'Boston radio e-mail list' Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 8:14 PM Subject: RE: another Meninoism > > today Boston Mayor Tom Menino was shown saying (on Channel 5).... "the > > perforation of guns across the state........" I assume he meant the > > "proliferation" > > > > -g > > ...unless the mayor was speaking to holes in Homeland Security....nah. > > Bill O'Neill > From maine.radio@verizon.net Fri Aug 6 11:04:08 2004 From: maine.radio@verizon.net (Jason Roberts - WCTB/WHQO/WSKW) Date: Fri Aug 6 11:04:16 2004 Subject: another Meninoism References: <000c01c47b4a$5f4859f0$0300a8c0@boneill> <001b01c47bc4$f18a5dc0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <003301c47bc6$a0bda260$6f01010a@LAPTOP> We have one meteorologist from our service who simply cannot say the word. He has different variations, but most often it would come out as, "meteorahhhhhhhlogist." I finally had him record his tag for me five or six times and from those created outs that hide his impediment which we paste on in-house. If he has to go live, he drops the word completely. -J. Jason Roberts VP / Station Manager WCTB - WHQO - WSKW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Strassberg" To: "Bill O'Neill" ; "'gic'" ; "'Boston radio e-mail list'" Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 10:51 AM Subject: Re: another Meninoism > One of the AccuWeather guys on WBZ always signs off with "This is > meteorolist ." (Might be Gary Schwindenhammer--a guy with more > letters in his surname (15) than I have in mine (10).) My assumption is > that, like the President, who can't pronounce nuclear (but doubtless > CAN say "new" and "clear" as separate words), this guy can't say > meteorologist but could say meteor and ologist as two separate words. It's > got to be some form of brain damage. In Bush's case, it's probably > from too much alcohol, which he admits having consumed in his younger days. > But the AccuWeather guy? A small stroke, maybe? Of course, I suppose he > could be a recovering alcoholic, just like W. > > -- > Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > eFax 707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill O'Neill > To: 'gic' ; 'Boston radio e-mail list' > > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 8:14 PM > Subject: RE: another Meninoism > > > > > today Boston Mayor Tom Menino was shown saying (on Channel 5).... "the > > > perforation of guns across the state........" I assume he meant the > > > "proliferation" > > > > > > -g > > > > ...unless the mayor was speaking to holes in Homeland Security....nah. > > > > Bill O'Neill > > > From brian_vita@cssinc.com Fri Aug 6 11:11:06 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Fri Aug 6 11:11:12 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad In-Reply-To: <002201c47bc6$f6b4c680$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <000c01c47bc7$99596ee0$c3ec33d1@alvin> I was recently walking by the Coolidge Corner Theatre in Brookline. They had a line of folks waiting outside the theatre to see "Fahrenheit 911". Members of the DNC were actively working the line and crowd walking by trying to sign them up to vote. They were telling the crowd that they had to see the movie to see the truth about George Bush. If you didn't sign up or disagreed, they publicly insulted you. I told them that I was working for the "Flush the Johns in 04" committee. Now talk to me about that ad. Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA +1-978-538-7575 voice +1-978-538-7550 fax www.cssinc.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Strassberg [mailto:dan.strassberg@att.net] > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 11:06 AM > To: brian_vita@cssinc.com > Subject: Re: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad > > > Excu-u-u-se me? How can you say that with a straight face > when your guy was elected not by the people (many of > whom--especially in Florida--didn't get a chance to vote or > to have their votes counted) but by a Supreme Court, several > of whose justices were nominated by your guy's father? Oh, I > see how you can say it. You're a Republican. Truth and > fairness are foreign concepts to you. But you have nothing to > fear; I'm sure that John Ashcroft will make sure that anyone > who tries to ensure fairness will be thrown in jail--in > Guantanamo with no access to a lawyer. After all, you guys > have to prevent a revolution. > > -- > Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > eFax 707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brian Vita > To: ; > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 10:12 AM > Subject: RE: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad > > > > The Kerry campaign has already been recruiting lawyers to > stand at the > > polling places to monitor (intimidate) the vote and challenge any > > questionable practices (Questionable practices is places where the > > tally doesn't go their way). I guess that the theory is > that if you > > can't win > at > > the ballot box, take it to the courts. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://humaneventsonline.com.edgesuite.net/unfit_pdf.html > > > > > > The conservative website Human Events has obtained a letter from > > > lawyers for John Kerry and the Dem. National Committee, > sent to TV > > > stations "suggesting" they should refuse an ad for a group called > > > Swift Boat Veterans for the Truth. The lawyers dispute > the claims of > > > the ad which has several Vietnam veterans saying that > Kerry "lied to > > > get his Silver Star"; that Kerry is unfit to lead, etc. As the ad > > > prepares to hit the airwaves, a book related to it has > had massive > > > pre-orders (it's #1 on amazon.com). This looks like a > massive effort > > > by these lawyers to get the ad taken off the air. > > > > > > Send lawyers, guns, and money (well, at least lawyers and > > > money): The (bleep) has hit the fan... :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > > > Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com > > > > > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Aug 6 11:23:30 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri Aug 6 11:23:37 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad References: <000c01c47bc7$99596ee0$c3ec33d1@alvin> Message-ID: <003e01c47bc9$5c1f13c0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Didn't you realize that I sent my message to you ONLY and NOT to the list? I have every right to reply to individuals on any topic I like. But I did not send my message to the list because Garrett does not allow such off-topic postings. Now you've made my private communication public, which is probably what you wanted to do--so that more Republicans like you can flood my mailbox with replies. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Vita To: 'Dan Strassberg' Cc: Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 11:11 AM Subject: RE: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad > I was recently walking by the Coolidge Corner Theatre in Brookline. They > had a line of folks waiting outside the theatre to see "Fahrenheit 911". > Members of the DNC were actively working the line and crowd walking by > trying to sign them up to vote. They were telling the crowd that they had > to see the movie to see the truth about George Bush. If you didn't sign up > or disagreed, they publicly insulted you. > > I told them that I was working for the "Flush the Johns in 04" committee. > > Now talk to me about that ad. > > Brian T. Vita, President > Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. > 77 Walnut St. - Ste 4 > Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA > +1-978-538-7575 voice > +1-978-538-7550 fax > www.cssinc.com > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dan Strassberg [mailto:dan.strassberg@att.net] > > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 11:06 AM > > To: brian_vita@cssinc.com > > Subject: Re: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad > > > > > > Excu-u-u-se me? How can you say that with a straight face > > when your guy was elected not by the people (many of > > whom--especially in Florida--didn't get a chance to vote or > > to have their votes counted) but by a Supreme Court, several > > of whose justices were nominated by your guy's father? Oh, I > > see how you can say it. You're a Republican. Truth and > > fairness are foreign concepts to you. But you have nothing to > > fear; I'm sure that John Ashcroft will make sure that anyone > > who tries to ensure fairness will be thrown in jail--in > > Guantanamo with no access to a lawyer. After all, you guys > > have to prevent a revolution. > > > > -- > > Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > > eFax 707-215-6367 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Brian Vita > > To: ; > > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 10:12 AM > > Subject: RE: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad > > > > > > > The Kerry campaign has already been recruiting lawyers to > > stand at the > > > polling places to monitor (intimidate) the vote and challenge any > > > questionable practices (Questionable practices is places where the > > > tally doesn't go their way). I guess that the theory is > > that if you > > > can't win > > at > > > the ballot box, take it to the courts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://humaneventsonline.com.edgesuite.net/unfit_pdf.html > > > > > > > > The conservative website Human Events has obtained a letter from > > > > lawyers for John Kerry and the Dem. National Committee, > > sent to TV > > > > stations "suggesting" they should refuse an ad for a group called > > > > Swift Boat Veterans for the Truth. The lawyers dispute > > the claims of > > > > the ad which has several Vietnam veterans saying that > > Kerry "lied to > > > > get his Silver Star"; that Kerry is unfit to lead, etc. As the ad > > > > prepares to hit the airwaves, a book related to it has > > had massive > > > > pre-orders (it's #1 on amazon.com). This looks like a > > massive effort > > > > by these lawyers to get the ad taken off the air. > > > > > > > > Send lawyers, guns, and money (well, at least lawyers and > > > > money): The (bleep) has hit the fan... :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > > > > Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com > > > > > > > > > > From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Fri Aug 6 13:24:16 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri Aug 6 13:24:24 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040806103249.02728dd0@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <20040806061925.43D2F3950@mprdmxin.myway.com> <000001c47bbf$6ee3cf50$c3ec33d1@alvin> <5.1.0.14.2.20040806103249.02728dd0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <200408061724.i76HOGw4016819@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > Umm, at the risk of turning this into another of those endless political > discussions, Umm, your friendly moderator is watching. Please take it to private mail. -GAWollman From raccoonradio@myway.com Fri Aug 6 13:29:26 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Aug 6 13:29:38 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad Message-ID: <20040806172926.1966A39EA@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>I think the lawyers for Kerry/DNC would have no chance of blocking the ad from the airwaves for reasons deeply related to our Constitution. Whether the claims are accurate is not the issue -- the people making the claims and appearing in the ad insist they are true (while many others who were also in or around Kerry at the time insist they are not). That's enough to protect the advertising group. Plus there is a real problem with prior restraint Because of recent campaign finance reform (the McCain-Feingold bill, I think), there have been changes; I can't remember them all but I think there was some kind of prohibition upon _some_ groups or individuals for running issue-based ads a month and a half before the election, while other individuals or groups could. Whether or not this ad applies, I don't know, and I also don't know if it's OK to run an ad bascially saying "_don't_ vote for this candidate" but it's not OK to _endorse_ a certain candidate".... _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Fri Aug 6 13:40:22 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Aug 6 13:40:43 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad Message-ID: <20040806174022.4564E3A14@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>Umm, your friendly moderator is watching. Please take it to private mail But what if the topic being discussed is the attempt to get TV stations not to run the ad, etc.? That might be considered on topic and relevant to broadcast interests. Inevitably, it may lead to which Yale graduate (Bush '68 or Kerry '66) list members are supporting, but it does involve the ethics of a campaing trying to squelch an ad--and whether or not the accusations are fair. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Fri Aug 6 13:42:40 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Aug 6 13:42:51 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad Message-ID: <20040806174240.4F09839F6@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>Umm, at the risk of turning this into another of those endless political discussions Well, inevitably some of us may turn to promoting which Yale graduate (Kerry '66 or Bush '68) we're supporting, but of course the discussion of a campaign trying to squelch an ad (which may or may not be accurate) should fall into discussions about broadcasting. >> We don't need the sort of campaign tactic that spreads lies about the other side, no matter whether it's Republicans or Democrats doing it. Fine. Let's tell Michael Moore to pull Fahrenheit 911 from theatres, then :) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Aug 6 14:17:40 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri Aug 6 14:17:49 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad In-Reply-To: <20040806061925.43D2F3950@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20040806061925.43D2F3950@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: At 2:19 AM -0400 8/6/04, Bob Nelson wrote: >http://humaneventsonline.com.edgesuite.net/unfit_pdf.html > >The conservative website Human Events has obtained a letter from >lawyers for John Kerry and the Dem. National Committee, sent to TV >stations "suggesting" they should refuse an ad for a group called >Swift Boat Veterans for the Truth. The lawyers dispute the claims of >the ad which has several Vietnam veterans saying that Kerry "lied to >get his Silver Star"; that Kerry is unfit to lead, etc. As the ad >prepares to hit the airwaves, a book related to it has had massive >pre-orders (it's #1 on amazon.com). This looks like a massive effort >by these lawyers to get the ad taken off the air. > The problem with the ad, as I understand it, is that the people who claim to have "served" with Kerry were in Vietnam at the time he was, but had no direct connection or knowledge of his actions. The doctor who claims to have treated Kerry is not the doctor who signed off on his chart. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Aug 6 14:20:09 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri Aug 6 14:20:24 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad In-Reply-To: <000001c47bbf$6ee3cf50$c3ec33d1@alvin> References: <000001c47bbf$6ee3cf50$c3ec33d1@alvin> Message-ID: At 10:12 AM -0400 8/6/04, Brian Vita wrote: >The Kerry campaign has already been recruiting lawyers to stand at the >polling places to monitor (intimidate) the vote and challenge any >questionable practices (Questionable practices is places where the tally >doesn't go their way). I guess that the theory is that if you can't win at >the ballot box, take it to the courts. Ya mean like 2000? The lawyers are there only to insure that everyone has who should have the right to vote actually can. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From dbroda@nycap.rr.com Fri Aug 6 16:39:39 2004 From: dbroda@nycap.rr.com (Douglas J. Broda) Date: Fri Aug 6 16:39:49 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad In-Reply-To: References: <20040806061925.43D2F3950@mprdmxin.myway.com> <20040806061925.43D2F3950@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20040806163453.020dcd60@pop.nycap.rr.com> But that is irrelevant to the topic that is (I believe) relevant for this list -- the airing of the ad on television. Accurate or not, legal under the Internal Revenue Code section 527 or not, the prior restraint of political speech is quite unlikely to be ordered by a court of law. If I am true to myself (a basically moderate Democrat who believes that free speech is the heartbeat of America), I must insist that the means for addressing inaccuracies in a political ad is not to squelch speech, but rather to prove its inaccuracy, even if there is a cost to a particular candidate I would badly prefer to see prevail over his opponent. At 02:17 PM 8/6/2004 -0400, you wrote: >At 2:19 AM -0400 8/6/04, Bob Nelson wrote: >>http://humaneventsonline.com.edgesuite.net/unfit_pdf.html >> >>The conservative website Human Events has obtained a letter from lawyers >>for John Kerry and the Dem. National Committee, sent to TV stations >>"suggesting" they should refuse an ad for a group called Swift Boat >>Veterans for the Truth. The lawyers dispute the claims of the ad which >>has several Vietnam veterans saying that Kerry "lied to get his Silver >>Star"; that Kerry is unfit to lead, etc. As the ad prepares to hit the >>airwaves, a book related to it has had massive pre-orders (it's #1 on >>amazon.com). This looks like a massive effort by these lawyers to get the >>ad taken off the air. > >The problem with the ad, as I understand it, is that the people who claim >to have "served" with Kerry were in Vietnam at the time he was, but had no >direct connection or knowledge of his actions. The doctor who claims to >have treated Kerry is not the doctor who signed off on his chart. >-- >Larry Weil >Lake Wobegone, NH ------------------------------------------------------------------ Douglas J. Broda Attorney at Law 80 Ferry Street, Troy, NY 12180 USA (518) 272-0580 dbroda@nycap.rr.com From brian_vita@cssinc.com Fri Aug 6 17:20:54 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Fri Aug 6 17:20:59 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002401c47bfb$428f93d0$c3ec33d1@alvin> While I don't particularly agree with their methodology, I don't find their message any less deceiving than the aforementioned Fahrenheit 911 or any of Michael Moore's speeches. Its amazing how they squeal when the shoe is on the other foot. Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA +1-978-538-7575 voice +1-978-538-7550 fax www.cssinc.com > The problem with the ad, as I understand it, is that the people who > claim to have "served" with Kerry were in Vietnam at the time he was, > but had no direct connection or knowledge of his actions. The doctor > who claims to have treated Kerry is not the doctor who signed off on > his chart. > -- > Larry Weil > Lake Wobegone, NH > From kc1ih@mac.com Fri Aug 6 17:37:58 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Fri Aug 6 17:38:06 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20040806163453.020dcd60@pop.nycap.rr.com> References: <20040806061925.43D2F3950@mprdmxin.myway.com> <20040806061925.43D2F3950@mprdmxin.myway.com> <5.1.1.6.0.20040806163453.020dcd60@pop.nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20040806173548.01f71b38@mail.mac.com> At 04:39 PM 8/6/2004, Douglas J. Broda wrote: >If I am true to myself (a basically moderate Democrat who believes that >free speech is the heartbeat of America), I must insist that the means for >addressing inaccuracies in a political ad is not to squelch speech, but >rather to prove its inaccuracy, even if there is a cost to a particular >candidate I would badly prefer to see prevail over his opponent. In theory, that's great. In practice, the media often will not cover the rebuttal, so only one side gets heard. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Fri Aug 6 18:50:22 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Fri Aug 6 18:48:35 2004 Subject: another Meninoism Message-ID: <200408061850.AA1378222348@mail.ttlc.net> "Dan Strassberg" noted: >One of the AccuWeather guys on WBZ always signs off with "This is >meteorolist ." That would be Dave Bowers (sp?). I noticed this a couple of weeks ago and I wondered if it was my ears. Thank you Dan for your corroboration. p.s. Another one of the less frequently (or no longer) heard Accu-Guys says "MeatyOlogist" From wayne@vacationdreams.org Fri Aug 6 19:16:47 2004 From: wayne@vacationdreams.org (Wayne Carter) Date: Fri Aug 6 19:16:04 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20040806163453.020dcd60@pop.nycap.rr.com> References: <20040806061925.43D2F3950@mprdmxin.myway.com> <20040806061925.43D2F3950@mprdmxin.myway.com> <5.1.1.6.0.20040806163453.020dcd60@pop.nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: Interesting concept, though I wish personal responsibility would keep both parties, and all on-air advertisers, from broadcasting inaccuracies. I live in a panacea, but I believe that the better part of common sense says only air things you know to be true and accurate, and leave the lies and half truths to others... just an opinion, and we all about about opinions.... :^) Wayne Carter >But that is irrelevant to the topic that is (I believe) relevant for >this list -- the airing of the ad on television. > >Accurate or not, legal under the Internal Revenue Code section 527 >or not, the prior restraint of political speech is quite unlikely to >be ordered by a court of law. > >If I am true to myself (a basically moderate Democrat who believes >that free speech is the heartbeat of America), I must insist that >the means for addressing inaccuracies in a political ad is not to >squelch speech, but rather to prove its inaccuracy, even if there is >a cost to a particular candidate I would badly prefer to see prevail >over his opponent. > >--------------------------------------------------- >Douglas J. Broda >Attorney at Law >80 Ferry Street, Troy, NY 12180 USA >(518) 272-0580 >dbroda@nycap.rr.com From wayne@vacationdreams.org Fri Aug 6 19:20:30 2004 From: wayne@vacationdreams.org (Wayne Carter) Date: Fri Aug 6 19:19:51 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20040806173548.01f71b38@mail.mac.com> References: <20040806061925.43D2F3950@mprdmxin.myway.com> <20040806061925.43D2F3950@mprdmxin.myway.com> <5.1.1.6.0.20040806163453.020dcd60@pop.nycap.rr.com> <6.1.2.0.2.20040806173548.01f71b38@mail.mac.com> Message-ID: I am a relative youngster, only 48, so will some of the more seasoned listers please enlighten me... Were the broadcast outlets as geared towards specific "agendas" in the days of Murrow? I had always wished to see broadcasting news done as news, not with a decided right or left slant... Just a question from a mere child... Wayne Carter >At 04:39 PM 8/6/2004, Douglas J. Broda wrote: > >>If I am true to myself (a basically moderate Democrat who believes >>that free speech is the heartbeat of America), I must insist that >>the means for addressing inaccuracies in a political ad is not to >>squelch speech, but rather to prove its inaccuracy, even if there >>is a cost to a particular candidate I would badly prefer to see >>prevail over his opponent. > >In theory, that's great. In practice, the media often will not >cover the rebuttal, so only one side gets heard. > > >-- >Larry Weil >Lake Wobegone, NH From brian_vita@cssinc.com Fri Aug 6 19:21:08 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Fri Aug 6 19:21:13 2004 Subject: another Meninoism In-Reply-To: <200408061850.AA1378222348@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <000001c47c0c$0e718930$c3ec33d1@alvin> > > >One of the AccuWeather guys on WBZ always signs off with "This is > >meteorolist ." > > That would be Dave Bowers (sp?). I noticed this a couple of > weeks ago and I wondered if it was my ears. Thank you Dan > for your corroboration. > > p.s. Another one of the less frequently (or no longer) heard > Accu-Guys says "MeatyOlogist" Maybe he moonlights as a butcher? Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA +1-978-538-7575 voice +1-978-538-7550 fax www.cssinc.com > > From dbroda@nycap.rr.com Fri Aug 6 20:24:48 2004 From: dbroda@nycap.rr.com (Douglas J. Broda) Date: Fri Aug 6 20:24:53 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20040806202437.020aea28@pop.nycap.rr.com> Actually, the rebuttal got major time on CNN and MSNBC today, including CNN doing a one-after-the-other with one of the people in the ad and a pro-Kerry vet who served with him. (I don't watch Fox, though I doubt coverage there was fair and balanced...) I agree the rebuttal will be undercovered by the media and the claims in the ad will be more widely seen than the rebuttal. I just think the price of prior restraint is too high. At 05:37 PM 8/6/2004 -0400, you wrote: >At 04:39 PM 8/6/2004, Douglas J. Broda wrote: > >>If I am true to myself (a basically moderate Democrat who believes that >>free speech is the heartbeat of America), I must insist that the means >>for addressing inaccuracies in a political ad is not to squelch speech, >>but rather to prove its inaccuracy, even if there is a cost to a >>particular candidate I would badly prefer to see prevail over his opponent. > >In theory, that's great. In practice, the media often will not cover the >rebuttal, so only one side gets heard. > > >-- >Larry Weil >Lake Wobegone, NH ------------------------------------------------------------------ Douglas J. Broda Attorney at Law 80 Ferry Street, Troy, NY 12180 USA (518) 272-0580 dbroda@nycap.rr.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Aug 7 00:28:36 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Aug 7 00:28:28 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad In-Reply-To: <20040806174022.4564E3A14@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <41142234.9386.71A816@localhost> On 6 Aug 2004 at 13:40, Bob Nelson wrote: > But what if the topic being discussed is the attempt to get TV > stations not to run the ad, etc.? That might be considered on > topic and relevant to broadcast interests. Inevitably, it may > lead to which Yale graduate (Bush '68 or Kerry '66) list members are > supporting, but it does involve the ethics of a campaing trying > to squelch an ad--and whether or not the accusations are fair. Frankly, with some of the blatant and deliberately false statements being made, I don't see why the target of those statements can't remind stations that there is such a thing as actionable defamation. Even a public figure can sue for defamation if the statement was published with willful disregard of the truth. And maybe it's about time someone did. And I include Fahrenheit 9/11 in that. I think it's possible to do an entertaining and effective anti-Bush movie based on real facts, not the half-truths and insinuations that Michael Moore uses. I don't happen to believe that a left-wing Rush Limbaugh is what we need. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Aug 7 00:28:36 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Aug 7 00:28:29 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20040806173548.01f71b38@mail.mac.com> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20040806163453.020dcd60@pop.nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: <41142234.25878.71A885@localhost> On 6 Aug 2004 at 17:37, Larry Weil wrote: > In theory, that's great. In practice, the media often will not cover the > rebuttal, so only one side gets heard. Yeah, like the way the media repeated endlessly the falsehood that Al Gore claimed to have "invented" the Internet, but never printed the rebuttal. Or, as Richard Nixon once remarked, the charge is printed on the front page, but the denial is buried under the deodorant ads. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Aug 7 00:28:36 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Aug 7 00:28:34 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad In-Reply-To: <002401c47bfb$428f93d0$c3ec33d1@alvin> References: Message-ID: <41142234.3751.71A786@localhost> On 6 Aug 2004 at 17:20, Brian Vita wrote: > While I don't particularly agree with their methodology, I don't find > their message any less deceiving than the aforementioned Fahrenheit 911 or > any of Michael Moore's speeches. Its amazing how they squeal when the > shoe is on the other foot. I have already been critical of Michael Moore, but Fahrenheit 9/11 is mild in comparison with what's been put out about Kerry's medals. Moore does not make directly false statements, but cleverly relies on half-truths and insinuations. If you listen carefully to what he says, it's literally true, but it gives you the impression that other things unstated are so. For example, he says that the Taliban met with businessmen in Texas while Bush was governor. He doesn't say that they met with Bush or with anyone connected with Bush. I'm sure there were many meetings in Texas while Bush was governor and he had nothing whatsoever to do with most of them. But the insinuation is there. If people want to disagree with the statements Kerry made 30 years ago about the Vietnam War and to criticize him for making those statements, that's legitimate. And if they think the statements he made 30 years ago disqualifies him from being President today, they are entitled to say that. But to make blatantly false statements about him is something else again. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From kc1ih@mac.com Sat Aug 7 01:05:54 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat Aug 7 01:06:06 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad In-Reply-To: <41142234.9386.71A816@localhost> References: <20040806174022.4564E3A14@mprdmxin.myway.com> <41142234.9386.71A816@localhost> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20040807010327.01fa1a98@mail.mac.com> At 12:28 AM 8/7/2004, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > I don't happen to believe that a left-wing Rush Limbaugh is what we need. Obviously, you've never heard Ed Schultz. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Aug 7 01:30:04 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Aug 7 01:28:57 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20040807010327.01fa1a98@mail.mac.com> References: <41142234.9386.71A816@localhost> Message-ID: <4114309C.22434.A9F0D9@localhost> On 7 Aug 2004 at 1:05, Larry Weil wrote: > Obviously, you've never heard Ed Schultz. No I haven't. Who he? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From radiotony@comcast.net Sat Aug 7 09:46:11 2004 From: radiotony@comcast.net (tony schinella) Date: Sat Aug 7 09:46:26 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad References: <5.1.1.6.0.20040806163453.020dcd60@pop.nycap.rr.com> <41142234.25878.71A885@localhost> Message-ID: <001501c47c84$e9c70c80$6400a8c0@tony> The reason Gore was pinned with the "Inventing the Internet" line is because of what he insinuated at the time, from CNN transcripts: "GORE: Well, I will be offering -- I'll be offering my vision when my campaign begins. And it will be comprehensive and sweeping. And I hope that it will be compelling enough to draw people toward it. I feel that it will be. But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in CREATING THE INTERNET. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system." However, as has been noted by Wired Magazine, Gore had nothing to do with "creating the Internet" - "Preliminary discussions of how the ARPANET would be designed began in 1967, and a request for proposals went out the following year. In 1969, the Defense Department commissioned the ARPANET. Gore was 21-years-old at the time. He wasn't even done with law school at Vanderbilt University. It would be eight more years before Gore would be elected to the US House of Representatives as a freshman Democrat with scant experience in passing legislation, let alone ambitious proposals." After Gore insinuated that he "took the initiative in creating the Internet," the late night talk hosts started to crack their jokes and Gore got pinned with the "Inventing the Internet" line. However, it was Gore's blatant exaggeration that led to him being tagged with the line. The media didn't have to offer a rebuttal. What Gore should have done was diverted the criticism by explaining specifics about what he would do as president instead of trying to prove himself presidential. But since he was too busy exaggerating about every point - being the inspiration for "Love Story," discovering Love Canal, saying at a union meeting that his mother used to sing the union label song to him as a baby even though he was in his thirties when the jingle was written, and yeah, "creating the Internet," - he seemed pathological. The media just jumped on the sense people already had about the guy. He should have won the election in a landslide and actually before the debates, Gore had a 74-Electoral College vote lead in most polls. But he huffed and puffed his way through the debates, blew his lead and the Supreme Court installed Bush. Best, Tony Schinella radiotony@comcast.net http://politizine.blogspot.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: ; "Larry Weil" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 12:28 AM Subject: Re: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad > On 6 Aug 2004 at 17:37, Larry Weil wrote: > > > In theory, that's great. In practice, the media often will not cover the > > rebuttal, so only one side gets heard. > > Yeah, like the way the media repeated endlessly the falsehood that Al Gore claimed to have > "invented" the Internet, but never printed the rebuttal. > > Or, as Richard Nixon once remarked, the charge is printed on the front page, but the denial > is buried under the deodorant ads. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > > From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Sat Aug 7 10:38:06 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat Aug 7 10:38:11 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad In-Reply-To: <001501c47c84$e9c70c80$6400a8c0@tony> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20040806163453.020dcd60@pop.nycap.rr.com> <41142234.25878.71A885@localhost> <001501c47c84$e9c70c80$6400a8c0@tony> Message-ID: <200408071438.i77Ec6eX026243@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > The reason Gore was pinned with the "Inventing the > Internet" line is because of what he insinuated at > the time, from CNN transcripts: And the relevance to broadcast media in the northeast is...? -GAWollman From kc1ih@mac.com Sat Aug 7 12:27:10 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat Aug 7 12:27:20 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad In-Reply-To: <4114309C.22434.A9F0D9@localhost> References: <41142234.9386.71A816@localhost> <4114309C.22434.A9F0D9@localhost> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20040807122326.01e827f0@mail.mac.com> At 01:30 AM 8/7/2004, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >On 7 Aug 2004 at 1:05, Larry Weil wrote: > > > Obviously, you've never heard Ed Schultz. > >No I haven't. Who he? http://www.bigeddieradio.com/ AFAIK, the only way to hear him locally is on Sirius Left or online. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Aug 7 13:59:16 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Aug 7 13:59:26 2004 Subject: another Meninoism Message-ID: <20040807175916.E9801C610C@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vita" Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 19:21:08 -0400 To: ,"'Dan Strassberg'" Subject: RE: another Meninoism > > > > > > >One of the AccuWeather guys on WBZ always signs off with "This is > > >meteorolist ." > > > > That would be Dave Bowers (sp?). I noticed this a couple of > > weeks ago and I wondered if it was my ears. Thank you Dan > > for your corroboration. > > > > p.s. Another one of the less frequently (or no longer) heard > > Accu-Guys says "MeatyOlogist" > > Maybe he moonlights as a butcher? > > Brian T. Vita, President > Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. > 77 Walnut St. - Ste 4 > Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA > +1-978-538-7575 voice > +1-978-538-7550 fax > www.cssinc.com > > > > > > >That would be sheer lunacy. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From scott@fybush.com Sat Aug 7 16:18:01 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sat Aug 7 16:17:30 2004 Subject: Paul Perry oops... Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040807161654.02c9d040@gwind.pair.com> Catching up on some airchecks I recorded last November while visiting Chicago, and it turns out I caught Paul Perry early one morning at WJMK coming out of a song with "Oldies 103....I mean, Oldies 104-point-3!" I bet nobody else listening knew why he said that... s From news@southstation.org Sat Aug 7 17:12:06 2004 From: news@southstation.org (Larry Lovering) Date: Sat Aug 7 17:12:20 2004 Subject: Paul Perry oops... In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040807161654.02c9d040@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <20040807211209.DORI15539.lakermmtao01.cox.net@main> Good thing he didn't say B101! -Larry -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Scott Fybush Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 4:18 PM To: bri@bostonradio.org Subject: Paul Perry oops... Catching up on some airchecks I recorded last November while visiting Chicago, and it turns out I caught Paul Perry early one morning at WJMK coming out of a song with "Oldies 103....I mean, Oldies 104-point-3!" I bet nobody else listening knew why he said that... s From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Aug 7 22:47:58 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Aug 7 22:46:54 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad In-Reply-To: <6.1.0.6.0.20040807044010.01be8328@127.0.0.1> References: <41142234.25878.71A885@localhost> Message-ID: <41155C1E.9127.351968@localhost> On 7 Aug 2004 at 4:41, Michael J.King Sr. wrote: > What rebuttal? Just curious. > Later.Mike What Gore actually said was more like, "As a member of Congress, I took the lead in creating the Internet." He was referring to having taken a leadership role in providing Congressional support and funding for developing the Internet, which was true. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Aug 7 22:47:58 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Aug 7 22:46:56 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad In-Reply-To: <001501c47c84$e9c70c80$6400a8c0@tony> Message-ID: <41155C1E.9802.3519C2@localhost> On 7 Aug 2004 at 9:46, tony schinella wrote: > However, as has been noted by Wired Magazine, Gore > had nothing to do with "creating the Internet" - > "Preliminary discussions of how the ARPANET would > be designed began in 1967, and a request for > proposals went out the following year. In 1969, > the Defense Department commissioned the ARPANET. But the ARPANET was not the Internet. A great deal happened in the early 1990s and maybe the late 80s to turn a small and restricted network of defense and academic computers, which the public couldn't even access, into the Internet, and I hear tell that Al Gore was in fact at the forefront of providing the Congressional support and funding for that. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Aug 7 22:47:58 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Aug 7 22:56:05 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad In-Reply-To: <200408071438.i77Ec6eX026243@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <001501c47c84$e9c70c80$6400a8c0@tony> Message-ID: <41155C1E.11779.351A21@localhost> On 7 Aug 2004 at 10:38, Garrett Wollman wrote: > And the relevance to broadcast media in the northeast is...? We were talking about media coverage of campaigns and the way that a distortion can get repeated by the press without criticism. Incidentally, though at the moment it seems to me that the Republicans are doing it more, both sides do this. The most blatant example of Democratic distortion that I know of happened when Charles Wilson, a former CEO of General Motors and Secretary of Defense- designate in the incoming Eisenhower Administration, said in his confirmation hearing something like "I have always thought that what was good for our country was good for General Motors and vice versa." The Democrats quickly twisted that into "What's good for General Motors is good for the country," and it's been quoted that way ever since. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From news@southstation.org Sun Aug 8 07:27:48 2004 From: news@southstation.org (Larry Lovering) Date: Sun Aug 8 07:28:07 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad In-Reply-To: <41155C1E.9127.351968@localhost> Message-ID: <20040808112756.RKCJ8791.lakermmtao06.cox.net@main> Most of the ARPANET was invented right here in Cambridge by my former company. And I take no credit for any of it. http://www.bbn.com/arpanet/index.html Note that development work started in 1968 on the ARPANET, the forerunner of the Internet. The router, email, the format for emails (that's where the '@' sign came from) all came from BBN. In 1982, BBN was awarded again the contract to build the DOD networks, so eventually, the ARPANET became the Internet. In New England, NEARnet was formed in 1989 to service colleges and universities linked to other regional networks. The Internet was originally a set of interconnected networks, not as decentralized as it is now. -Larry Lovering -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of A. Joseph Ross Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 10:48 PM To: Michael J.King Sr. Cc: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad On 7 Aug 2004 at 4:41, Michael J.King Sr. wrote: > What rebuttal? Just curious. > Later.Mike What Gore actually said was more like, "As a member of Congress, I took the lead in creating the Internet." He was referring to having taken a leadership role in providing Congressional support and funding for developing the Internet, which was true. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Sun Aug 8 12:12:36 2004 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Sun Aug 8 12:02:23 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad References: <41142234.3751.71A786@localhost> Message-ID: <027a01c47d62$85e12b90$6401a8c0@LizardHome> "A. Joseph Ross" notes: > Moore does not make directly false statements, but cleverly relies on half-truths and insinuations. If you >listen carefully to what he says, it's literally true, but it gives you the impression that other things unstated are >so. I offer this quote: "My opponent is a known sexagenarian and has been observed, on several occasions, masticating in public." To make a connection with broadcasting: These are the very principles upon which modern advertising is based. Why do we decry the use of insinuation in political ads, but shrug it off (with a Caveat Emptor)in automobile ads and other frequent-flyers of the half-truth? Ads for auto dealers regularly exclaim: -All Credit Applications Will Be Accepted! [Accepted, yes, Approved, maybe] -At A Fraction Of The Original Price [99/100 is a fraction. 105/100 is, too] TV & Radio Ads constantly insinuate that use of the proffered product will result in immediate, significantly improved attraction of the opposite gender. Remember the poor shlub with dandruff - he used Head & Shoulders and now the previously scorning woman is running her fingers through his hair with wild abandon. Habitant's radio ads claimed "You don't Have to add water, Habitant is Real Soup" And finally, to connect with the Northeast and the environs of Boston, I offer the indisputable claim of MIT's former WTBS: "More music per fortnight than any other Lower Charles River Basin Station." I'm afraid that without carefully crafted insinuation, the world of Radio & TV advertising would, indeed, be a very dull, predictable place with a mere fraction of it's former excitement. From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sun Aug 8 12:34:44 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sun Aug 8 12:39:00 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad References: <41142234.25878.71A885@localhost> <41155C1E.9127.351968@localhost> Message-ID: <013e01c47d66$05ed7200$1404fea9@xyz> From: "A. Joseph Ross > What Gore actually said was more like, "As a member of Congress, I took the lead in > creating the Internet." He was referring to having taken a leadership role in providing > Congressional support and funding for developing the Internet, which was true. How true it is and how much leadership he took, is debateable. However, it came on the heel of him having a 'leadership role" in sooo many things, (remember when he took the 'leadership role' and went down to the tornado ravanged parts of the country? (As it turns out, he wasn't even there....has anyone ever disputed that?) His 'leadership role' in the brithing of the internet may have been simply his 'aye' vote. At the point he made the internet claim...the public was tired of his embellishments. ...which is true. (Ahem...to turn this back to the subject of radio...I...errr...heard Gore speak on the radio once!) JP From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Aug 8 19:12:17 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Aug 8 19:11:35 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad In-Reply-To: <027a01c47d62$85e12b90$6401a8c0@LizardHome> Message-ID: <41167B11.22112.169CFBB@localhost> On 8 Aug 2004 at 12:12, Roger Kirk wrote: > To make a connection with broadcasting: These are the very principles > upon which modern advertising is based. Why do we decry the use of > insinuation in political ads, but shrug it off (with a Caveat Emptor)in > automobile ads and other frequent-flyers of the half-truth? On the other hand, commercial ads can be prosecuted for blatant lies, but political ads cannot. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Mon Aug 9 00:02:43 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon Aug 9 00:02:03 2004 Subject: LTAR Message-ID: <4116BF23.10537.273C1E9@localhost> Bob spent some time commenting this morning on CHOI and its license woes in Canada. One thing that wasn't clear: Is CHOI a French-speaking station? Not all stations in Quebec Province are. There are a few English-language stations, especially in Montreal. Bob also mentioned statistics showing an increase in AM radio listening and attributed it to the election. I was wondering whether this statistic tracked all AM listening or just AM talk shows. And finally, Bob mentioned a proposed law that would make a Webcaster liable for copying of songs that it played, even if it wasn't the one who copied it. What about radio stations? Some people do tape things off the air. Would that law apply to them or just to Webcasting? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Mon Aug 9 00:05:41 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Mon Aug 9 00:03:54 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad Message-ID: <200408090005.AA2073755726@mail.ttlc.net> "A. Joseph Ross" replied: >On the other hand, commercial ads can be prosecuted for blatant lies, >but political ads cannot. "It's a strange, strange world we live in, Master Jack" From scott@fybush.com Mon Aug 9 00:12:01 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon Aug 9 00:11:29 2004 Subject: LTAR In-Reply-To: <4116BF23.10537.273C1E9@localhost> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040809001042.0ab7c460@gwind.pair.com> At 12:02 AM 8/9/2004 -0400, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >Bob spent some time commenting this morning on CHOI and its license woes >in Canada. >One thing that wasn't clear: Is CHOI a French-speaking station? Not all >stations in Quebec >Province are. There are a few English-language stations, especially in >Montreal. Yup, CHOI is French. There are almost no English-language privately-owned stations outside Montreal - just CKTS 900 Sherbrooke, which relays CJAD 800 Montreal, and a community station in Lennoxville, near Sherbrooke (CJMQ 89.9). Other than that, you're dependent on the CBC if you want to hear English radio in the province outside Montreal... s From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Aug 9 00:17:33 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon Aug 9 00:18:15 2004 Subject: LTAR In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040809001042.0ab7c460@gwind.pair.com> References: <4116BF23.10537.273C1E9@localhost> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040809001547.02669ef0@pop.registeredsite.com> >Scott wrote-- >Yup, CHOI is French. There are almost no English-language privately-owned >stations outside Montreal - just CKTS 900 Sherbrooke, which relays CJAD >800 Montreal, and a community station in Lennoxville, near Sherbrooke >(CJMQ 89.9). Other than that, you're dependent on the CBC if you want to >hear English radio in the province outside Montreal... You mean there are no English-language album rockers in Montreal anymore? I forget the call letters of the one I used to listen to when I was doing business up there, but it was quite bi-lingual... From scott@fybush.com Mon Aug 9 00:23:58 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon Aug 9 00:23:26 2004 Subject: LTAR In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040809001547.02669ef0@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040809001042.0ab7c460@gwind.pair.com> <4116BF23.10537.273C1E9@localhost> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040809002043.0ab790c0@gwind.pair.com> At 12:17 AM 8/9/2004 -0400, Donna Halper wrote: >>Scott wrote-- >>Yup, CHOI is French. There are almost no English-language privately-owned >>stations outside Montreal - just CKTS 900 Sherbrooke, which relays CJAD >>800 Montreal, and a community station in Lennoxville, near Sherbrooke >>(CJMQ 89.9). Other than that, you're dependent on the CBC if you want to >>hear English radio in the province outside Montreal... > >You mean there are no English-language album rockers in Montreal >anymore? I forget the call letters of the one I used to listen to when I >was doing business up there, but it was quite bi-lingual... "Outside Montreal," I said :-) Montreal still has some English radio - Standard owns news-talk giant CJAD (800), AC CJFM (Mix 95.9) and classic rocker CHOM (97.7, the legendary ex-album rocker Donna's thinking of). CHUM owns sports CKGM (The Team 990). Corus owns all-news CINW (940) and hot AC CFQR (Q92.5). And McGill University's CKUT 90.3 is mostly English. The days of CHOM being bilingual are gone - the CRTC won't allow that anymore (although several stations whose announcing is all in French are licensed as English-language stations and play a majority of English-lyric music in order to get around the CRTC's ownership limits...) s From mlaurence@mindspring.com Mon Aug 9 00:30:46 2004 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Mon Aug 9 00:29:11 2004 Subject: LTAR In-Reply-To: <4116BF23.10537.273C1E9@localhost> Message-ID: On Monday, August 9, 2004, at 12:02 AM, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > Bob spent some time commenting this morning on CHOI and its license > woes in Canada. One thing that wasn't clear: Is CHOI a > French-speaking station? Oui. http://www.choiradiox.com/ > Not all stations in Quebec Province are. There are a few > English-language stations, especially in Montreal. CHOI is in Quebec City. There is not much use there for an English language commercial station. In the 1996 census, Metro Quebec had 637,000 self-identified French speakers and 11,000 English speakers. I think the only English station there is CBC Radio One, and it has miniscule ratings. From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Aug 9 00:36:26 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon Aug 9 00:37:09 2004 Subject: LTAR In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040809002043.0ab790c0@gwind.pair.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040809001547.02669ef0@pop.registeredsite.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20040809001042.0ab7c460@gwind.pair.com> <4116BF23.10537.273C1E9@localhost> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040809003242.02681780@pop.registeredsite.com> >Scott wrote-- >Montreal still has some English radio - Standard owns news-talk giant CJAD >(800), AC CJFM (Mix 95.9) and classic rocker CHOM (97.7, the legendary >ex-album rocker Donna's thinking of). CHUM owns sports CKGM (The Team 990). Ah yes, I recall hearing CJAD about a year ago. But yeah, I guess nobody does bi-lingual the way they used to. And yes it was CHOM that I recall. It used to have studios in a part of Montreal (Westmount, I think) where the English-speakers hung out! I am sure those days are long gone. I'll be up in Toronto in a couple of weeks-- 30th anniversary of my discovering Rush, and I'm speaking at a convention-- it'll be interesting to see how radio in Toronto has changed too. From lawyer@attorneyross.com Mon Aug 9 00:53:06 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon Aug 9 00:52:33 2004 Subject: LTAR In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040809003242.02681780@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040809002043.0ab790c0@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <4116CAF2.20289.2A1E226@localhost> On 9 Aug 2004 at 0:36, Donna Halper wrote: > 30th anniversary of my discovering Rush, and I'm speaking at a > convention-- it'll be interesting to see how radio in Toronto has > changed too. YOU discovered Rush? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Mon Aug 9 00:53:06 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon Aug 9 00:52:57 2004 Subject: LTAR In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040809002043.0ab790c0@gwind.pair.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040809001547.02669ef0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <4116CAF2.762.2A1E1EB@localhost> On 9 Aug 2004 at 0:23, Scott Fybush wrote: > The days of CHOM being bilingual are gone - the CRTC won't allow that > anymore I can't understand why not. I would have assumed that bilingualism was what they would want to encourage. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From scott@fybush.com Mon Aug 9 01:05:32 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon Aug 9 01:05:01 2004 Subject: LTAR In-Reply-To: <4116CAF2.762.2A1E1EB@localhost> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040809002043.0ab790c0@gwind.pair.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20040809001547.02669ef0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040809010438.0abbd990@gwind.pair.com> At 12:53 AM 8/9/2004 -0400, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >On 9 Aug 2004 at 0:23, Scott Fybush wrote: > > > The days of CHOM being bilingual are gone - the CRTC won't allow that > > anymore > >I can't understand why not. I would have assumed that bilingualism was >what they would >want to encourage. Nope - the English and French radio markets are regulated these days as if they're two separate entities, more or less (as indeed they are), and allowing languages to be mixed on the air would complicate the CRTC's regulatory mission. Or at least that's how they defend the policy... s From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Aug 9 01:37:22 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon Aug 9 01:38:06 2004 Subject: LTAR In-Reply-To: <4116CAF2.20289.2A1E226@localhost> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040809003242.02681780@pop.registeredsite.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20040809002043.0ab790c0@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040809013601.0268d2a0@pop.registeredsite.com> At 12:53 AM 8/9/2004 -0400, you wrote: >On 9 Aug 2004 at 0:36, Donna Halper wrote: > > > 30th anniversary of my discovering Rush, and I'm speaking at a > > convention-- it'll be interesting to see how radio in Toronto has > > changed too. > >YOU discovered Rush? Not Limbaugh. The rock group. http://www.2112.net/powerwindows/transcripts/halperinthebeginning.htm From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Mon Aug 9 11:49:16 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon Aug 9 11:49:22 2004 Subject: Dem., Kerry lawyers try to squelch anti-Kerry ad In-Reply-To: <41155C1E.9802.3519C2@localhost> References: <001501c47c84$e9c70c80$6400a8c0@tony> <41155C1E.9802.3519C2@localhost> Message-ID: <200408091549.i79FnGE1046041@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > But the ARPANET was not the Internet. Broadcasting relevance? -GAWollman From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Mon Aug 9 13:24:04 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon Aug 9 13:24:08 2004 Subject: LTAR In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040809003242.02681780@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040809001547.02669ef0@pop.registeredsite.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20040809001042.0ab7c460@gwind.pair.com> <4116BF23.10537.273C1E9@localhost> <5.1.0.14.0.20040809002043.0ab790c0@gwind.pair.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20040809003242.02681780@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <200408091724.i79HO4Mk047075@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > recall. It used to have studios in a part of Montreal (Westmount, I think) > where the English-speakers hung out! I am sure those days are long > gone. Still there, so far as I know, at something like 811 Greene. -GAWollman From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Mon Aug 9 18:01:45 2004 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Mon Aug 9 18:01:56 2004 Subject: Steve Miller Band on WRKS New York?? Message-ID: <20040809220145.86756.qmail@web52607.mail.yahoo.com> This afternoon on my way home from work I was scanning the FM dial and heard one of the oddest things - I hit WRKS (98.7 FM) New York City, and the song "Fly Like An Eagle" by the Steve Miller Band played, in its entirety. For those of you not familiar, WRKS has an Urban AC format. The song was then followed by a standard 98.7 Kiss FM jingle and a song by R Kelly. Does anyone here have any clue why an Urban AC station would play a song like that, in its entirety, being so far away from its format? (A clip of it I can understand, if it was part of another program element, but not the whole thing) Matt Osborne Poughkeepsie, NY __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From raccoonradio@myway.com Mon Aug 9 18:10:47 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon Aug 9 18:11:05 2004 Subject: Burl. Free Press article on WMUD 89.3 Message-ID: <20040809221047.DF31C3AFC@mprdmxin.myway.com> http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/bfpnews/news/1000h.htm Burlington (VT) Free Press article on LPFM in Bridport, VT, 100-watt WMUD-LP 89.3 _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Mon Aug 9 18:44:57 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Mon Aug 9 18:43:05 2004 Subject: Burl. Free Press article on WMUD 89.3 Message-ID: <200408091844.AA2249457744@mail.ttlc.net> "Bob Nelson" provided: http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/bfpnews/news/1000h.htm >Burlington (VT) Free Press article on LPFM in Bridport, VT, 100-watt >WMUD-LP 89.3 Interesting comments. "4,000 songs - all good." By whose standards?, I would be inclined to ask. "musical advisers who lend us their libraries to make copies", "sometimes listeners send us stuff" "no copyright problems, because the station pays fees to the broadcast licensing agencies BMI and ASCAP." I wasn't aware that ASCAP & BMI had any governance over copyright law. IIRC, radio stations (transmitting organizations) are allowed to make "ephemeral" copies for working purposes and they may not be used any longer than (?) 6 months from the first transmission date before being destroyed. Unless preserved exclusively for archival purposes. From lawrencemedia@yahoo.com Mon Aug 9 18:40:15 2004 From: lawrencemedia@yahoo.com (Roy Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 9 19:12:02 2004 Subject: Steve Miller Band on WRKS New York?? In-Reply-To: <20040809220145.86756.qmail@web52607.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040809224015.88819.qmail@web51308.mail.yahoo.com> Are you sure it wasn't Seal's 1996 version of "Fly Like an Eagle? That would have been more appropriate for that format. Roy Lawrence San Francisco, CA --- Matthew Osborne wrote: > This afternoon on my way home from work I was > scanning > the FM dial and heard one of the oddest things - I > hit > WRKS (98.7 FM) New York City, and the song "Fly Like > An Eagle" by the Steve Miller Band played, in its > entirety. For those of you not familiar, WRKS has > an > Urban AC format. The song was then followed by a > standard 98.7 Kiss FM jingle and a song by R Kelly. > Does anyone here have any clue why an Urban AC > station > would play a song like that, in its entirety, being > so > far away from its format? (A clip of it I can > understand, if it was part of another program > element, > but not the whole thing) > > Matt Osborne > Poughkeepsie, NY > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From lawrencemedia@yahoo.com Mon Aug 9 18:31:30 2004 From: lawrencemedia@yahoo.com (Roy Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 9 19:43:38 2004 Subject: Steve Miller Band on WRKS New York?? In-Reply-To: <20040809220145.86756.qmail@web52607.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040809223130.5470.qmail@web51304.mail.yahoo.com> Are you sure it wasn't Seal's 1996 version of "Fly Like an Eagle? That would have been more appropriate for that format. Roy Lawrence San Francisco, CA --- Matthew Osborne wrote: > This afternoon on my way home from work I was > scanning > the FM dial and heard one of the oddest things - I > hit > WRKS (98.7 FM) New York City, and the song "Fly Like > An Eagle" by the Steve Miller Band played, in its > entirety. For those of you not familiar, WRKS has > an > Urban AC format. The song was then followed by a > standard 98.7 Kiss FM jingle and a song by R Kelly. > Does anyone here have any clue why an Urban AC > station > would play a song like that, in its entirety, being > so > far away from its format? (A clip of it I can > understand, if it was part of another program > element, > but not the whole thing) > > Matt Osborne > Poughkeepsie, NY > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lawrencemedia@yahoo.com Mon Aug 9 18:40:02 2004 From: lawrencemedia@yahoo.com (Roy Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 9 19:49:32 2004 Subject: Steve Miller Band on WRKS New York?? In-Reply-To: <20040809220145.86756.qmail@web52607.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040809224002.25578.qmail@web51302.mail.yahoo.com> Are you sure it wasn't Seal's 1996 version of "Fly Like an Eagle? That would have been more appropriate for that format. Roy Lawrence San Francisco, CA --- Matthew Osborne wrote: > This afternoon on my way home from work I was > scanning > the FM dial and heard one of the oddest things - I > hit > WRKS (98.7 FM) New York City, and the song "Fly Like > An Eagle" by the Steve Miller Band played, in its > entirety. For those of you not familiar, WRKS has > an > Urban AC format. The song was then followed by a > standard 98.7 Kiss FM jingle and a song by R Kelly. > Does anyone here have any clue why an Urban AC > station > would play a song like that, in its entirety, being > so > far away from its format? (A clip of it I can > understand, if it was part of another program > element, > but not the whole thing) > > Matt Osborne > Poughkeepsie, NY > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From billo@shoreham.net Mon Aug 9 20:19:18 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon Aug 9 20:19:35 2004 Subject: Burl. Free Press article on WMUD 89.3 In-Reply-To: <20040809221047.DF31C3AFC@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <000401c47e6f$ae23ade0$0300a8c0@boneill> Bob Nelson: > http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/bfpnews/news/1000h.htm > > Burlington (VT) Free Press article on LPFM in Bridport, VT, > 100-watt WMUD-LP 89.3 I have to say that Chip Morgan is doing a stellar job of programming the mix on WMUD-LP. I am fortunate to be in the adjacent town to the studio location, with the stick across the lake and north a bit. Audio is clear as a bell, nicely processed. "A happy cow is a productive cow. WMUD." Just an example of the tongue in cheek liners that pop-up every four songs. Not a single live jock, no backsells. www.wmud.org also has a link to the music titles in real time if you need to know what it is you're hearing from along with artist links. Bill O'Neill Shoreham, Vermont From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Mon Aug 9 23:40:32 2004 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Mon Aug 9 23:40:41 2004 Subject: Steve Miller Band on WRKS New York?? In-Reply-To: <20040809223130.5470.qmail@web51304.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040810034032.86368.qmail@web52604.mail.yahoo.com> On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 15:31:30 Roy Lawrence wrote: > Are you sure it wasn't Seal's 1996 version of "Fly > Like an Eagle? That would have been more appropriate > for that format. > I am absolutely positive it was not Seal's remake of the song. Seal did not include 'trippy' space-ish sounds at the end of his version of the song that matched the Steve Miller Band version exactly. Matt Osborne Poughkepsie, NY __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From lawyer@attorneyross.com Tue Aug 10 01:26:02 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue Aug 10 01:25:16 2004 Subject: LTAR In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040809013601.0268d2a0@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <4116CAF2.20289.2A1E226@localhost> Message-ID: <4118242A.17259.72C282@localhost> On 9 Aug 2004 at 1:37, Donna Halper wrote: > Not Limbaugh. The rock > group. > http://www.2112.net/powerwindows/transcripts/halperinthebeginning.htm Now that's a really interesting story. And we even get to learn your middle name! -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Tue Aug 10 12:58:05 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue Aug 10 12:58:08 2004 Subject: Moderation delays Message-ID: <200408101658.i7AGw5CJ060661@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Just so people don't feel like I'm ignoring them: the rising tide of spam has resulted in a large number of messages getting held for moderator approval, only a small fraction of which are legitimate list messages. As a result, you can expect it to take some time for your message to clear the moderator's queue. If the discussion has already moved on from the topic of your post, it may not show up. -GAWollman From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Aug 10 18:26:44 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Aug 10 18:26:52 2004 Subject: Red Sox Seeking New Fields To "Conquer"? Message-ID: <20040810222644.E11CE3384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> According to a story on the front page of today's (08/10) Boston Globe, the Red Sox are reputedly seeking new sources of revenue, that may include participation in ownership of other sports franchises. ("Seeking new fields to conquer" may not accurately describe the Red Sox since they have so conspicuouly failed to conquer in their purported core enterprise.) Anyway, as one reads deeper into the story, one comes across a mention of the possibility of purchasing radio stations (go to page two); ah, this is the royal road to riches, no doubt. To read all about it, go to: http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2004/08/10/sox_seek_shares_in_another_team/ Although the URL indicates the story appeared in the sports pages, in fact, as I noted above, it appeared on page 1 of the paper. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From markwats@comcast.net Tue Aug 10 19:25:47 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Tue Aug 10 19:25:56 2004 Subject: Red Sox Seeking New Fields To "Conquer"? References: <20040810222644.E11CE3384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <005e01c47f31$5e11b3c0$6f918318@Mark> Laurence Glavin wrote: > Anyway, as one reads deeper into the story, one >comes across a mention of the possibility of purchasing > radio stations. WWZN (1510 Boston) could be had for the right price, especially if Sporting News Radio wants to unload it in a hurry. I doubt any of the big Boston AM or FM signals will sell to the Sox...but then again anything is possible in this biz. Mark Watson From steveord@bit-net.com Tue Aug 10 19:32:12 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue Aug 10 19:32:14 2004 Subject: Red Sox Seeking New Fields To 'Conquer'? In-Reply-To: <005e01c47f31$5e11b3c0$6f918318@Mark> References: <20040810222644.E11CE3384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> <005e01c47f31$5e11b3c0$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <1035.216.38.170.22.1092180732.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> Mark Watson wrote: > > > WWZN (1510 Boston) could be had for the right price, especially if > Sporting News Radio wants to unload it in a hurry. I doubt any of the > big Boston AM or FM signals will sell to the Sox...but then again > anything is possible in this biz. This is of course assuming that the Sox would even WANT that white elephant. From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Tue Aug 10 19:33:20 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue Aug 10 19:33:24 2004 Subject: Red Sox Seeking New Fields To 'Conquer'? In-Reply-To: <1035.216.38.170.22.1092180732.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> References: <20040810222644.E11CE3384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> <005e01c47f31$5e11b3c0$6f918318@Mark> <1035.216.38.170.22.1092180732.squirrel@sqmail.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <200408102333.i7ANXK4N065858@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > This is of course assuming that the Sox would even WANT that white elephant. That's assuming they know enough not to. -GAWollman From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Aug 10 21:44:01 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue Aug 10 21:44:17 2004 Subject: WCRN drops AP Network News; largely drops Swing format Message-ID: <001601c47f44$b85505e0$19eefea9@satpro4600> WCRN 830 Worcester has, for the most part, dropped its locally originated, automated Swing format and replaced it with what I believe to be ABC's satellite-delivered Unforgettable Favorites. I had thought that Unforgettable was the satellite-delivered format heard on WESX 1230 Salem and WJDA 1300 Quincy, but this doesn't sound the same--although I haven't tried to see if WJDA or WESX and WCRN carry the same programming at the same time. For sure, whoever originates this format isn't going broke paying the "talent." Today, I heard a (very young sounding) announcer refer to New York's Greenwich Village and pronounce the W. Will somebody please tell me what the generic name of the Unforgettable format is? It's really heavy on what I'd call '50s AC. Just as I've characterized NAC as Kenny G 24/7, this sounds kind of like Ricky Nelson 24/7. Not as offensive as rap or heavy metal, maybe, but it doesn't win any prizes for good taste (or singing on key; I could believe that all the music is played a half tone flat on purpose--or maybe the satellite is leaving earth orbit and this is the Doppler effect ;>). I assume that the ABC news that WCRN now carries on the hour in place of AP Network News comes as a package with Unforgettable. It would be interesting to know which came first--WCRN's decision to mostly dump the Swing format and all but one member of its air staff--or the exit of the one sponsor, National Glass, which appeared to be buying, far and away, the heaviest spot load. Did the Carberry's hire a consultant to tell them that, by dumping Swing and picking up Unforgettable, WCRN would attract a (slightly) younger audience (albeit one whose taste is all in their mouths)? Or did the Carberry's figure that out all by themselves? Next stop, a return to brokered religion? A sale of the station? Or was this strictly an economy move to keep the station alive and in the family? -- Dan Strassberg dan.strassberg@att.net Fax: 1-707-215-6367 From jjlehmann@comcast.net Tue Aug 10 21:50:10 2004 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Tue Aug 10 21:50:27 2004 Subject: WCRN drops AP Network News; largely drops Swing format In-Reply-To: <001601c47f44$b85505e0$19eefea9@satpro4600> Message-ID: <006a01c47f45$8e9e3360$6400a8c0@AMD> I believe that ABC offers 2 different satellite "standards" formats. Memories is whats on WJDA and WESX, and frequently called "unforgettable favorites" on the air. There's also Stardust. Could this be whats on WCRN? Here's the full list of ABC's formats: http://www.abcradio.com/index.cfm?bay=content.view&catid=72&cpid=100 Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Dan Strassberg Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 9:44 PM To: boston-radio-interest@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Subject: WCRN drops AP Network News; largely drops Swing format WCRN 830 Worcester has, for the most part, dropped its locally originated, automated Swing format and replaced it with what I believe to be ABC's satellite-delivered Unforgettable Favorites. I had thought that Unforgettable was the satellite-delivered format heard on WESX 1230 Salem and WJDA 1300 Quincy, but this doesn't sound the same--although I haven't tried to see if WJDA or WESX and WCRN carry the same programming at the same time. For sure, whoever originates this format isn't going broke paying the "talent." Today, I heard a (very young sounding) announcer refer to New York's Greenwich Village and pronounce the W. Will somebody please tell me what the generic name of the Unforgettable format is? It's really heavy on what I'd call '50s AC. Just as I've characterized NAC as Kenny G 24/7, this sounds kind of like Ricky Nelson 24/7. Not as offensive as rap or heavy metal, maybe, but it doesn't win any prizes for good taste (or singing on key; I could believe that all the music is played a half tone flat on purpose--or maybe the satellite is leaving earth orbit and this is the Doppler effect ;>). I assume that the ABC news that WCRN now carries on the hour in place of AP Network News comes as a package with Unforgettable. It would be interesting to know which came first--WCRN's decision to mostly dump the Swing format and all but one member of its air staff--or the exit of the one sponsor, National Glass, which appeared to be buying, far and away, the heaviest spot load. Did the Carberry's hire a consultant to tell them that, by dumping Swing and picking up Unforgettable, WCRN would attract a (slightly) younger audience (albeit one whose taste is all in their mouths)? Or did the Carberry's figure that out all by themselves? Next stop, a return to brokered religion? A sale of the station? Or was this strictly an economy move to keep the station alive and in the family? -- Dan Strassberg dan.strassberg@att.net Fax: 1-707-215-6367 From jjlehmann@comcast.net Tue Aug 10 22:14:14 2004 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Tue Aug 10 22:14:32 2004 Subject: WCRN drops AP Network News; largely drops Swing format In-Reply-To: <006a01c47f45$8e9e3360$6400a8c0@AMD> Message-ID: <007201c47f48$e95940d0$6400a8c0@AMD> I just put on WCRN, and I heard the DJ mention "Timeless Classics", which would mean that it's the Stardust format. It does seem to lean older than whats on WJDA/WESX, but still I haven't heard anything earlier than 1960 yet. http://timelessclassicsonline.com Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Lehmann Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 9:50 PM To: 'Dan Strassberg'; boston-radio-interest@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Subject: RE: WCRN drops AP Network News; largely drops Swing format I believe that ABC offers 2 different satellite "standards" formats. Memories is whats on WJDA and WESX, and frequently called "unforgettable favorites" on the air. There's also Stardust. Could this be whats on WCRN? Here's the full list of ABC's formats: http://www.abcradio.com/index.cfm?bay=content.view&catid=72&cpid=100 Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Dan Strassberg Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 9:44 PM To: boston-radio-interest@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Subject: WCRN drops AP Network News; largely drops Swing format WCRN 830 Worcester has, for the most part, dropped its locally originated, automated Swing format and replaced it with what I believe to be ABC's satellite-delivered Unforgettable Favorites. I had thought that Unforgettable was the satellite-delivered format heard on WESX 1230 Salem and WJDA 1300 Quincy, but this doesn't sound the same--although I haven't tried to see if WJDA or WESX and WCRN carry the same programming at the same time. For sure, whoever originates this format isn't going broke paying the "talent." Today, I heard a (very young sounding) announcer refer to New York's Greenwich Village and pronounce the W. Will somebody please tell me what the generic name of the Unforgettable format is? It's really heavy on what I'd call '50s AC. Just as I've characterized NAC as Kenny G 24/7, this sounds kind of like Ricky Nelson 24/7. Not as offensive as rap or heavy metal, maybe, but it doesn't win any prizes for good taste (or singing on key; I could believe that all the music is played a half tone flat on purpose--or maybe the satellite is leaving earth orbit and this is the Doppler effect ;>). I assume that the ABC news that WCRN now carries on the hour in place of AP Network News comes as a package with Unforgettable. It would be interesting to know which came first--WCRN's decision to mostly dump the Swing format and all but one member of its air staff--or the exit of the one sponsor, National Glass, which appeared to be buying, far and away, the heaviest spot load. Did the Carberry's hire a consultant to tell them that, by dumping Swing and picking up Unforgettable, WCRN would attract a (slightly) younger audience (albeit one whose taste is all in their mouths)? Or did the Carberry's figure that out all by themselves? Next stop, a return to brokered religion? A sale of the station? Or was this strictly an economy move to keep the station alive and in the family? -- Dan Strassberg dan.strassberg@att.net Fax: 1-707-215-6367 From markwats@comcast.net Tue Aug 10 23:01:43 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Tue Aug 10 23:01:51 2004 Subject: WORC Sale Message-ID: <011301c47f4f$88ca9be0$6f918318@Mark> Radio & Records reporting that Chowder Broadcast Group LLC is selling WORC (1310 Worcester) to Antonio Gois, owner of WSPR (1270 Springfield). Reported sale price is $950,000. My guess is there will be a format change at WORC to Spanish, maybe a partial or full simulcast of WSPR could happen. Mark Watson From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Tue Aug 10 23:30:06 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Tue Aug 10 23:28:12 2004 Subject: WCRN drops AP Network News; largely drops Swing format Message-ID: <200408102330.AA1325662528@mail.ttlc.net> "Jeff Lehmann" wrote: >I heard the DJ mention "Timeless Classics", which would mean that >it's the Stardust format. It does seem to lean older than whats on \ >WJDA/WESX, but still I haven't heard anything earlier than 1960 yet. >http://timelessclassicsonline.com The Program Director is Musicologist Bud Buschardt. I thought music afficionados weren't allowed to program radio stations. Only heartless bean counters that test well. From scott@fybush.com Wed Aug 11 01:14:26 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed Aug 11 01:14:34 2004 Subject: WCRN drops AP Network News; largely drops Swing format In-Reply-To: <200408102330.AA1325662528@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200408102330.AA1325662528@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <1368.24.93.17.17.1092201266.squirrel@24.93.17.17> > "Jeff Lehmann" wrote: >>I heard the DJ mention "Timeless Classics", which would mean that >>it's the Stardust format. It does seem to lean older than whats on \ >>WJDA/WESX, but still I haven't heard anything earlier than 1960 yet. > >>http://timelessclassicsonline.com > > The Program Director is Musicologist Bud Buschardt. I thought music > afficionados weren't allowed to program radio stations. Only heartless > bean counters that test well. Our Moderator has met Bud Buschardt...wonder if he remembers the occasion? s From scott@fybush.com Wed Aug 11 01:31:27 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed Aug 11 01:31:29 2004 Subject: WCRN drops AP Network News; largely drops Swing format In-Reply-To: <1368.24.93.17.17.1092201266.squirrel@24.93.17.17> References: <200408102330.AA1325662528@mail.ttlc.net> <1368.24.93.17.17.1092201266.squirrel@24.93.17.17> Message-ID: <1395.24.93.17.17.1092202287.squirrel@24.93.17.17> > Our Moderator has met Bud Buschardt...wonder if he remembers the occasion? > Scratch that - wrong Dallas trip. Bud gave a tour of ABC Radio Networks' Dallas facility to the National Radio Club convention last year, which Mr. Moderator Guy couldn't make it to. (He will, however, be at this year's NRC convention here in western New York next month, and you're all invited, too: http://www.nrcdxas.org/ for more information!) s From steveord@bit-net.com Wed Aug 11 08:29:44 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Wed Aug 11 08:29:45 2004 Subject: WCRN drops AP Network News; largely drops Swing format In-Reply-To: <001601c47f44$b85505e0$19eefea9@satpro4600> References: <001601c47f44$b85505e0$19eefea9@satpro4600> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040811082234.01afaa08@pop3.bit-net.com> Dan Strassberg wrote: >For sure, whoever originates this format isn't going broke paying the >"talent." Today, I heard a (very young sounding) announcer refer to New >York's Greenwich Village and pronounce the W. Will somebody please tell me >what the generic name of the Unforgettable format is? It's really heavy on >what I'd call '50s AC. Just as I've characterized NAC as Kenny G 24/7, this >sounds kind of like Ricky Nelson 24/7. Not as offensive as rap or heavy >metal, maybe, but it doesn't win any prizes for good taste (or singing on >key; I could believe that all the music is played a half tone flat on >purpose--or maybe the satellite is leaving earth orbit and this is the >Doppler effect ;>). Jocks who are not even close in age to the target demo have always been a bit of a peeve of mine (though I've been guilty of it myself)...whether it's some 22 year old playing oldies or standards or 60 year olds trying to do CHR. As far as the songs sounding flat, I've noticed that on several CD reissues where the originals that we're familiar with were pitched up, but the re-issues are the "correct" speed, thereby sounding flat & draggy. >It would be interesting to know which came first--WCRN's decision to mostly >dump the Swing format and all but one member of its air staff--or the exit >of the one sponsor, National Glass, which appeared to be buying, far and >away, the heaviest spot load. Did the Carberry's hire a consultant to tell >them that, by dumping Swing and picking up Unforgettable, WCRN would attract >a (slightly) younger audience (albeit one whose taste is all in their >mouths)? Or did the Carberry's figure that out all by themselves? Next stop, >a return to brokered religion? A sale of the station? Or was this strictly >an economy move to keep the station alive and in the family? Do we even know that this was a paid account, or maybe just trade? I know we've been thru this before, but a swing format doesn't tend to appeal to a very economically desirable demo....my guess was that it was a pretty tough sell. Trying to make it with a standalone AM is hard enough without trying to do it with a music format. From miscon@miscon.net Wed Aug 11 12:09:32 2004 From: miscon@miscon.net (Mission Control) Date: Wed Aug 11 12:10:04 2004 Subject: National Glass (was: WCRN drops AP Network News) Message-ID: <200408111209.AA74383530@miscon.net> Dan Strassberg originally wrote: >It would be interesting to know which came first--WCRN's decision to mostly >dump the Swing format and all but one member of its air staff--or the exit >of the one sponsor, National Glass, which appeared to be buying, far and >away, the heaviest spot load. Then Steve Ordinetz opined: >Do we even know that this was a paid account, or maybe just trade? WHAT?! A heavy spot load of automobile glass that's trade? That's a helluva lot of auto glass! Especially in a state that gives auto glass replacement free if you have comprehensive auto insurance. Methinks that N.G. is a paying customer who got a lot of freebies when WCRN was live (and that type of format allowed that to happen). I've listened for a bit, and still heard National Glass advertising spots quite frequently. Sorry, I just can't see it as trade. Now if it was a RESTAURANT... Mike as for the "new" format, welllllll... From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Wed Aug 11 15:59:26 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Wed Aug 11 15:57:31 2004 Subject: The "I's" Have It Message-ID: <200408111559.AA1585840448@mail.ttlc.net> Is there a campaign afoot to insert the letter "i" into virtually every word spoken on-air? Or is Vanna White just having a half-price sale on "i's?" In the last 3 days, I have heard bothe agency commercials and live announcers on WBZ emote the following: OGG-iss (August) PA-piss (pappas) miss-KEY-toes (mosquitos) NEW-tin (Newton) CAN-tin (Canton) and now (drum roll sfx, please) the "il-LIM-piks" (Olympics) (BZ Newsman) From raccoonradio@myway.com Wed Aug 11 21:05:36 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Aug 11 21:05:50 2004 Subject: The Message-ID: <20040812010536.A788F39D2@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>Is there a campaign afoot to insert the letter "i" into virtually every word spoken on-air? >>the "il-LIM-piks" (Olympics) (BZ Newsman) Howie Carr (mis)pronounces more than a few words: Wisconsin= "WESS-con-sin" Syracuse= "SERRA-cyoose" Illinois= "ELLEN-oy" Collapsed= "clapsed" Pat Whitley somehow mispronounces the name of a certain community north of Boston as "Raw-lay" (Rowley) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From scott@fybush.com Wed Aug 11 21:29:53 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed Aug 11 21:29:22 2004 Subject: The (the what??) In-Reply-To: <20040812010536.A788F39D2@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040811212837.038e6020@gwind.pair.com> >Howie Carr (mis)pronounces more than a few words: >Syracuse= "SERRA-cyoose" That's actually VERY close to the way the natives say it, at least for the city in upstate New York. But then, we also pronounce Chili "chy-lye" and Avon "ah-von," so what do we know? -s, from RAAAAAH-chi-ster... From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Thu Aug 12 22:58:30 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu Aug 12 22:58:33 2004 Subject: WORC Sale In-Reply-To: <011301c47f4f$88ca9be0$6f918318@Mark> References: <011301c47f4f$88ca9be0$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <200408130258.i7D2wUd4093312@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > sale price is $950,000. My guess is there will be a format change at WORC > to Spanish, maybe a partial or full simulcast of WSPR could happen. Already was en espanol when I was there a few weekends ago (see the audio section of the archives), although this was a leased-time program. My recollection is that WORC has bene doing a lot of leased programming for quite some time now. -GAWollman From scott@fybush.com Fri Aug 13 04:28:15 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri Aug 13 04:28:17 2004 Subject: WORC Sale In-Reply-To: <200408130258.i7D2wUd4093312@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <011301c47f4f$88ca9be0$6f918318@Mark> <200408130258.i7D2wUd4093312@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <21154.66.36.29.157.1092385695.squirrel@66.36.29.157> > < > said: > >> sale price is $950,000. My guess is there will be a format change at >> WORC >> to Spanish, maybe a partial or full simulcast of WSPR could happen. > > Already was en espanol when I was there a few weekends ago (see the > audio section of the archives), although this was a leased-time > program. My recollection is that WORC has bene doing a lot of leased > programming for quite some time now. That was a weekend when you were out there, right, Garrett? I think the weekends have been Spanish going back as far as when I still lived out there... -s(leepily dozing through a Morning Edition shift that I volunteered to do for some reason that's not quite clear at 4:28 am!) From markwats@comcast.net Fri Aug 13 17:25:44 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Fri Aug 13 17:25:51 2004 Subject: "JC Golden Oldies" Returns To The Airwaves.... Message-ID: <003401c4817c$1830ddc0$6f918318@Mark> For one day, anyway. On Monday, Aug.16, the 27th anniversary of Elvis Presley's passing, WSNH (900 Nashua NH, acting as WMEX) presents Merrimack Valley radio legend "JC" (a/k/a Jim Camilli) hosting an 11 hour Elvis Presley tribute from 6AM till 5PM, live from two different Honey Dew Donut shops, one in Lowell from 6 to 11 AM, the other in Nashua from 12 Noon till 5PM. This will be JC's first radio music show since his last show on WLLH in 1990 (after 34 years there), although his last radio appearance was as a guest on WCAP's "Afternoon Live" with then host Gary Francis ( and I was the guest co-host for that show, which was quite the show!!). Mark Watson From lawyer@attorneyross.com Fri Aug 13 18:46:50 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri Aug 13 18:46:01 2004 Subject: "JC Golden Oldies" Returns To The Airwaves.... In-Reply-To: <003401c4817c$1830ddc0$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <411D0C9A.915.39C710@localhost> On 13 Aug 2004 at 17:25, Mark Watson wrote: > For one day, anyway. On Monday, Aug.16, the 27th anniversary of Elvis > Presley's passing, WSNH (900 Nashua NH, acting as WMEX) presents Merrimack > Valley radio legend "JC" (a/k/a Jim Camilli) hosting an 11 hour Elvis > Presley tribute Three days later is the 27th anniversary of Groucho Marx's death. I wonder if anyone is hosting a Groucho Marx tribute. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From ssmyth@psu.edu Fri Aug 13 19:35:42 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri Aug 13 19:35:49 2004 Subject: Vinnie Peruzzi Message-ID: <200408132335.TAA09309@webmail12.cac.psu.edu> We just received this over the fax: Vinnie Peruzzi passed away today at Massachusetts General Hospital after a brief illness. He was 51. From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Aug 13 20:04:42 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri Aug 13 20:05:31 2004 Subject: Vinnie Peruzzi In-Reply-To: <200408132335.TAA09309@webmail12.cac.psu.edu> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040813200321.028894e8@pop.registeredsite.com> At 07:35 PM 8/13/2004 -0400, you wrote: >We just received this over the fax: Vinnie Peruzzi passed away today at >Massachusetts General Hospital after a brief illness. He was 51. Wow... I am stunned... I knew him as "Disco Vinnie"-- I think Bob Bittner worked with him at WNTN when they did their disco format, and I know he worked for a while at Kiss 108, among other places... From scott@fybush.com Fri Aug 13 20:44:12 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri Aug 13 20:43:39 2004 Subject: Vinnie Peruzzi In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040813200321.028894e8@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <200408132335.TAA09309@webmail12.cac.psu.edu> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040813204329.03986e90@gwind.pair.com> A reporter named Sean Smith from the Patriot-Ledger just called me, looking for people who might have known Vinnie. If you did, and are available to talk tonight, please give him a call at 617-786-7026... s From ssmyth@psu.edu Fri Aug 13 20:49:11 2004 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Fri Aug 13 20:49:14 2004 Subject: Vinnie Peruzzi Message-ID: <200408140049.UAA13832@webmail12.cac.psu.edu> On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 20:44:12 +0000, Scott Fybush wrote: > A reporter named Sean Smith from the Patriot-Ledger just called me, looking > for people who might have known Vinnie. If you did, and are available to > talk tonight, please give him a call at 617-786-7026... A small world this is. Indeed, I am putting together Vinnie's obit here at The Patriot Ledger. Feel free to contact me in the office, at the number Scott listed, if you have any information. Sadly, we have an early deadline tonight, so if you read this much after 9 p.m., we'll probably have the story put to bed. From gary@garysicecream.com Fri Aug 13 22:28:45 2004 From: gary@garysicecream.com (gic) Date: Fri Aug 13 22:29:09 2004 Subject: A memory of Julia Child Message-ID: <003401c481a6$72a114d0$6500a8c0@office> Hearing about the passing of Julia Child this morning brought back memories of the morning that I spent 2 hours interviewing her on WRKO. She had been booked for the entire 4 hours of Dining Around with Gene Burns, but Gene got called on to appear on a live Ch 7 news program from 10 - 11 so as the regular Dining Around fill-in, I got to spend the first half of the show with her until Gene got there just after the noon news. What a down-to-earth delightful person she was. She even joked about the parodies comedians did about her. When I heard of her passing I went and found my copy of "The Way to Cook" which she gave me that morning and inscribed for me and spend some time paging through it. She took the fear out of cooking for many people and led the way for all the other cooking shows that we so enjoy today. Bon Apetit Julia and rest in peace. -gary francis From RBello@BelloAssoc.com Fri Aug 13 22:49:12 2004 From: RBello@BelloAssoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Fri Aug 13 22:49:50 2004 Subject: Vinnie Peruzzi In-Reply-To: <200408140049.UAA13832@webmail12.cac.psu.edu> References: <200408140049.UAA13832@webmail12.cac.psu.edu> Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.0.20040813224543.020bcbb8@pop.gis.net> At 08:49 PM 8/13/2004, Sean Smyth wrote: >On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 20:44:12 +0000, Scott Fybush wrote: > > A reporter named Sean Smith from the Patriot-Ledger just called me, > looking > > for people who might have known Vinnie. If you did, and are available to > > talk tonight, please give him a call at 617-786-7026... > >A small world this is. > >Indeed, I am putting together Vinnie's obit here at The Patriot Ledger. Feel >free to contact me in the office, at the number Scott listed, if you have any >information. > >Sadly, we have an early deadline tonight, so if you read this much after 9 >p.m., >we'll probably have the story put to bed. Don't know where he got his start but I remember Vinnie interning at WBZ-FM in the mid 1970s for Clark Schmidt (sp?). From billo@shoreham.net Sat Aug 14 07:30:44 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat Aug 14 07:31:02 2004 Subject: A memory of Julia Child In-Reply-To: <003401c481a6$72a114d0$6500a8c0@office> Message-ID: <000201c481f2$2418f2a0$0300a8c0@boneill> She took the fear > out of cooking > for many people and led the way for all the other cooking > shows that we so > enjoy today. > > Bon Apetit Julia and rest in peace. > > -gary francis Remember the wayback SNL parodies on Julia. I think Dan Ackroyd. In a move gone horribly wrong, she (Ackroyd) would calmly talk though the recipe while blood gushes like a garden hose from one former body part or another. I recall hearing that Julia was quite taken with the parodies, reaffirming her wonderful sense of humor and her humility. I always felt that by demythologizing fine cuisine, Julia was "cracking the code" privately held by fancy-pants for generations. Bill O'Neill From news@southstation.org Sat Aug 14 07:55:29 2004 From: news@southstation.org (Larry Lovering) Date: Sat Aug 14 07:56:02 2004 Subject: A memory of Julia Child In-Reply-To: <000201c481f2$2418f2a0$0300a8c0@boneill> Message-ID: <20040814115534.NXVD6588.lakermmtao02.cox.net@main> Yesterday, on WBZ, a former staffer of hers told of Julia's quirky love for McDonalds, saying that the french fries were so good because they were cooked in something that wasn't good. -Larry Lovering -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Bill O'Neill Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 7:31 AM To: 'gic'; 'Boston radio e-mail list' Subject: RE: A memory of Julia Child She took the fear > out of cooking > for many people and led the way for all the other cooking shows that > we so enjoy today. > > Bon Apetit Julia and rest in peace. > > -gary francis Remember the wayback SNL parodies on Julia. I think Dan Ackroyd. In a move gone horribly wrong, she (Ackroyd) would calmly talk though the recipe while blood gushes like a garden hose from one former body part or another. I recall hearing that Julia was quite taken with the parodies, reaffirming her wonderful sense of humor and her humility. I always felt that by demythologizing fine cuisine, Julia was "cracking the code" privately held by fancy-pants for generations. Bill O'Neill From markwats@comcast.net Sun Aug 15 10:09:55 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sun Aug 15 10:10:05 2004 Subject: Vinnie Peruzzi References: <200408140049.UAA13832@webmail12.cac.psu.edu> <6.0.0.22.0.20040813224543.020bcbb8@pop.gis.net> Message-ID: <002b01c482d1$8b7df500$6f918318@Mark> Ron Bello wrote: > Don't know where he got his start but I remember >Vinnie interning at WBZ-FM in the mid 1970s for Clark >Schmidt (sp?). I vaguely remember hearing Vinnie's voice on WBZ-FM back in the mid 70's. Wasn't he also with WBOS when they were in their "Disco 93" format? Also, there's a mention of Vinnie Peruzzi's passing on Star 93.7's web site home page. Tonight, Star 93.7 will be remembering Vinnie Peruzzi with a special edition of the "Club Classics" show that he hosted every Sunday night. The show starts at 7 PM. Mark Watson From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Aug 15 23:48:58 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Aug 15 23:48:41 2004 Subject: No LTAR this morning Message-ID: <411FF66A.18753.2A91158@localhost> Anyone know what happened to LTAR this morning? While I like Radio Nederland's "Euroquest" (Bob thinks I'm its only listener), I missed LTAR. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Mon Aug 16 00:57:28 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon Aug 16 00:56:12 2004 Subject: LTAR Message-ID: <41200678.22736.2E7CB0F@localhost> Bob says that a serious family health problem got in the way of doing LTAR this week, and it should be back next week. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From sven@gordsven.com Mon Aug 16 08:17:43 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Mon Aug 16 08:17:53 2004 Subject: LTAR In-Reply-To: <41200678.22736.2E7CB0F@localhost> Message-ID: On Mon, 16 Aug 2004, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > Bob says that a serious family health problem got in the way of doing > LTAR this week. Good luck and all the best Bob. Hope everything is OK. -- steph. From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Mon Aug 16 14:41:12 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Mon Aug 16 14:39:15 2004 Subject: Wal-Mart Funds NPR, PBS & Scholarships Message-ID: <200408161441.AA1403977832@mail.ttlc.net> According to an article in the NY Times, Wal-mart has funded the Tavis Smiley talk show on Public Television in California and has become a (sic) sponsor on NPR. They also announced plans to to award $500,000 in scholarships to minority students at journalism programs around the country, including Howard University, University of Southern California and Columbia University. ...a spokeswoman for Wal-Mart, said the scholarships were "a first of their kind" for the retailer, and came about because of the recent publicity around its business practices. She also said there was "no hidden agenda here" ...it probably would have been done even if Wal-Mart had not come under scrutiny. From scott@fybush.com Mon Aug 16 14:56:39 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon Aug 16 14:56:44 2004 Subject: Wal-Mart Funds NPR, PBS & Scholarships In-Reply-To: <200408161441.AA1403977832@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200408161441.AA1403977832@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <1147.24.93.17.17.1092682599.squirrel@24.93.17.17> > According to an article in the NY Times, Wal-mart has > funded the Tavis Smiley talk show on Public Television > in California and has become a (sic) sponsor on NPR. Their underwriting credit has been running on All Things Considered since at least June and possibly earlier. I don't speak for public broadcasting as a whole or even for my particular public broadcaster, but it seems to me that the underwriting credits are relatively neutral, their money's as green as anyone else's, and if they want to use public broadcasting underwriting to get their message out, well, they're hardly alone. (And I continue to hear reporting on NPR that's critical of the company, so I don't think the - relatively small - underwriting campaign is having any effect on the news department, which is as it should be.) s From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Aug 16 15:10:42 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon Aug 16 15:11:30 2004 Subject: Chuck Leonard? Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040816150522.02756608@pop.registeredsite.com> Did anybody see an obit on Chuck Leonard, formerly of WABC? I just saw a quick mention in R&R Online that he has passed away. These days, it seems a lot of the great old-time d.j.'s are dying-- Cleveland's Bill Randle died about a month ago, for example. I wonder if anybody has archived sound on some of these legends-- as we have seen in the past, too often, a person's history is just thrown out, and we are left with nothing to remember them by... And over on the TV side, I recently found a couple of old photos of the late great Major Mudd-- but I still would love to have video of him...ditto for Big Brother Bob Emery and so many others... From sven@gordsven.com Mon Aug 16 15:25:30 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Mon Aug 16 15:25:38 2004 Subject: Chuck Leonard? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040816150522.02756608@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 16 Aug 2004, Donna Halper wrote: > Did anybody see an obit on Chuck Leonard, formerly of WABC? I just saw a > quick mention in R&R Online that he has passed away. These days, it seems Donna, Go to http://www.musicradio77.com/wwwboard and see the discussion that took place. I believe an obit was also posted. -- steph. From sid@wrko.com Mon Aug 16 15:46:24 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Mon Aug 16 15:46:58 2004 Subject: Chuck Leonard? Message-ID: >>Did anybody see an obit on Chuck Leonard, formerly of WABC?<< Glenn Morgan, Rick Sklar's successor as PD of WABC, wrote an "official" obit, which is posted here: http://www.musicradio77.com/wwwboard/messages/240623.html Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Aug 16 16:01:57 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon Aug 16 16:02:08 2004 Subject: Wal-Mart Funds NPR, PBS & Scholarships Message-ID: <20040816200157.551B586AE9@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> >From: "Scott Fybush" >Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:56:39 -0400 (EDT) >To: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net >Subject: Re: Wal-Mart Funds NPR, PBS & Scholarships > I don't speak for public broadcasting as a whole or even for my particular > public broadcaster, but it seems to me that the underwriting credits are > relatively neutral, their money's as green as anyone else's, and if they > want to use public broadcasting underwriting to get their message out, > well, they're hardly alone. > > (And I continue to hear reporting on NPR that's critical of the company, > so I don't think the - relatively small - underwriting campaign is having > any effect on the news department, which is as it should be.) > > s I had a posting on the subject of Wal-Mart and Sam's Club in July. I mentioned that outright commercials for Sams Club could be heard on WBZ and WRKO; "feel-good" messages for Wal-Mart also could be heard on those outlets. I haven't noticed any particular favorable or unfavorable treatment of the Arkansas Ravagers on those ouutlets however. But my favorite juxaposition of berating W-M/SC one minute, and reading an NPR underwriting message occurred on "Wait, Wait Don't Tell Me." In fact, I think I hear a tinge of irony in Peter Segal's voice when he reads it! And from time to time, the Wal- Mart acknowledgement is played back-to-back with one from the Kresge Foundation: a holdover from the company that eventually became K-Mart. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From n1qgs@yahoo.com Mon Aug 16 20:34:47 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Mon Aug 16 20:34:51 2004 Subject: "JC Golden Oldies" Returns To The Airwaves.... In-Reply-To: <003401c4817c$1830ddc0$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <20040817003447.86507.qmail@web12503.mail.yahoo.com> > Valley radio legend "JC" (a/k/a Jim Camilli).... This will be JC's first radio music show since his last show on WLLH in 1990 (after 34 years there) Boy does the JC Golden Oldies bring back memories. In Nashua we used to purposely hang aroung the "south end" of town, so that we could get a clearer signal to listen to! The show was a staple during our teenage years in the mid-1970's! John Derry NH ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna From lawyer@attorneyross.com Tue Aug 17 00:40:57 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue Aug 17 00:40:29 2004 Subject: TV news tickers Message-ID: <41215419.29789.77BBB0@localhost> Last night a memory occurred to me, and I wonder if anyone (Donna, maybe?) can remember any more details. It seems to me that back when my parents bought our first TV set, in late 1949, we occasionally saw the news on television in the form of a moving ticker on the bottom of the screen (obviously, it was something mechanical, not the computer graphics of today), with background music playing and, probably, a visual ad on the rest of the screen. I think this was probably local, not a network thing. Of course, I couldn't read at the time, and I wasn't quite sure what "news" was, but I knew that it was something that was important to grownups, and I caught enough of their conversation to know that this was what the moving ticker was. Exactly why this popped into my head, after all these years, last night at bedtime, I don't know, but there it is. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From caustin@cox.net Tue Aug 17 01:40:39 2004 From: caustin@cox.net (Chip Austin) Date: Tue Aug 17 01:40:33 2004 Subject: TV news tickers Message-ID: <41219A57.6080409@cox.net> In the very early days of cable the cable system (where I grew up, anyway) had one channel where they showed a UPI (or AP) ticker while the local BM FM station was on the audio channel. They had another channel with a camera that scanned back and forth shooting weather dials with an ad placard at each end of each scan. >It seems to me that back when my parents bought our first TV set, in >late 1949, we >occasionally saw the news on television in the form of a moving ticker >on the bottom of the >screen... From raccoonradio@myway.com Tue Aug 17 04:05:04 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue Aug 17 04:05:13 2004 Subject: WKKK in Connecticut Message-ID: <20040817080504.9C8743975@mprdmxin.myway.com> Believe it or not, there's a cp for a station in Oakville, CT on AM 1590 with the calls WKKK. (orig. had the calls WWWN) And the owner, according to 100000watts.com, is the "Fair Communication Company". (Why not just call themselves the Funny Cookie Company? :) ) It almost seems like a hoax! Anyway, do the owners realize the controversial nature of those calls? One post on radio-info.com said that supposedly it stands for Konnecticut's Klassic Kountry but I don't know if that's to be believed. Not sure if these calls were "sequentially issued", or specifically asked for (and the FCC found no problem with them)... _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Aug 17 10:18:29 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue Aug 17 10:19:21 2004 Subject: WBIX Message-ID: <000a01c48465$285d8f40$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Scott reported a couple of weeks ago in NERW that--toward the end of August--WBIX would be on the air at night with its new nighttime signal operating under program-test authority. I've yet to notice in the FCC daily actions any application to augment the standard pattern. The FCC usually requires the augmentation data before it grants program-test authority. In this case, because the standard pattern is so much tighter than any real pattern could possibly be, and because of WBIX's relatively high night power, proximity to KYW, and the history of many previous owners being unable to adjust the array within specs, I'm sure that the FCC wants to know that the pattern meets specs and is stable. Of possibly greater importance is the fact that, this morning, I was unable to find any trace of the material that WBIX had posted at its Web site about its forthcoming full-time operation. (The photos of the construction at Sewell St that were first posted last fall are still there, though, tucked away in the photo archives.) Moreover, there is a new thread at Radio-Info.com suggesting that Chris Egan is paying Brad Bleidt $7 million for the station. Allegedly, Bleidt paid Alex Langer in excess of $10 million less than a year ago. (Actually, the $10 million price was kind of funny money because Bleidt actually paid only about $1 million; Langer financed the balance.) Still, if the price dropped by 30 to 40% in less than a year, a plausible explanation is that the night signal isn't going to make it onto the air--despite all of the high-priced construction and engineering work. My simple-minded and unscientific drive-around listening test while the night-signal testing was going on during the day certainly suggested that the array is working well, so is there any later word? Also, Scott, did you get your information from what you consider to be a normally reliable source? -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 From n1qgs@yahoo.com Tue Aug 17 11:18:39 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Tue Aug 17 11:18:43 2004 Subject: Charlie Sherman Lands at WGIR 610 AM Radio Message-ID: <20040817151839.33941.qmail@web12505.mail.yahoo.com> WGIR 610 AM Manchester NH is promoting the "return" of Charlie Sherman to the airwaves. He starts Monday at 5:30. They didn't say AM or PM, but I assume its morning drive. This raises the question as to what is happening with morning man Mike Ball, who, was not on this morning. Dan Pierce was filling in. For those who need a refresher, Charlie was the sports director a WMUR-TV channel 9 Manchester NH for many years until earlier this year. John Derry NH ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna From dwcole@comcast.net Tue Aug 17 13:17:15 2004 From: dwcole@comcast.net (Dan C) Date: Tue Aug 17 13:17:20 2004 Subject: Charlie Sherman Lands at WGIR 610 AM Radio References: <20040817151839.33941.qmail@web12505.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000301c4847e$0b713210$61f29318@HP310n> ----- Original Message ----- > WGIR 610 AM Manchester NH is promoting the "return" of Charlie Sherman to > the airwaves. He starts Monday at 5:30. They didn't say AM or PM, but I > assume its morning drive. > This raises the question as to what is happening with morning man Mike > Ball, who, was not on this morning. Dan Pierce was filling in. This was on the AP wire the other day. Charlie will be working the morning shift. Mike Ball, for whatever reason, was fired. Dan Cole From sid.whitaker@unh.edu Tue Aug 17 13:24:41 2004 From: sid.whitaker@unh.edu (Sid Whitaker) Date: Tue Aug 17 13:24:53 2004 Subject: Charlie Sherman Lands at WGIR 610 AM Radio In-Reply-To: <000301c4847e$0b713210$61f29318@HP310n> References: <20040817151839.33941.qmail@web12505.mail.yahoo.com> <000301c4847e$0b713210$61f29318@HP310n> Message-ID: <1092763481.41223f59f1a94@webmail.unh.edu> Interesting to note, too, that Dan Pierce left WGIR in 1998 or '99 for WMUR and returned to WGIR a year or so later. Sid Quoting Dan C : > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > WGIR 610 AM Manchester NH is promoting the "return" of Charlie Sherman to > > the airwaves. He starts Monday at 5:30. They didn't say AM or PM, but I > > assume its morning drive. > > This raises the question as to what is happening with morning man Mike > > Ball, who, was not on this morning. Dan Pierce was filling in. > > > This was on the AP wire the other day. Charlie will be working the morning > shift. Mike Ball, for whatever reason, was fired. > > Dan Cole > > From raccoonradio@myway.com Tue Aug 17 14:18:14 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue Aug 17 14:18:24 2004 Subject: Animal nicknames for radio stations Message-ID: <20040817181814.64FAF396E@mprdmxin.myway.com> I like to combine my interest sometimes. I'm into radio, "furry cartoons" (with intelligent, anthropomorphized animals), and advertising. So it's fun to check out websites, etc., of radio stations that have animal nicknames. You've seen 'em-- The Fox, the Eagle, Cat Country, Big Froggy, and so on. Often there will be a cartoon character of the animal in advertising, etc. http://www.wolf1490.net Tribute site to the legendary WOLF Syracuse, with some cartoon wolves featured on old flyers; a guy in a wolf "fur suit", etc. http://www.101thefox.com One of the many stations to use a fox theme. This one's a classic rocker in Vermont. http://www.wolf108.com A low power station in Eau Claire that is actually run by "furries" (fans of cartoons with intelligent animals) There was even "the Bunny"--when the rock band Phish played their farewell concerts in Vermont last week, they rented out WMOO-FM 92.1 (yes, those are the actual calls!) and re-dubbed it the Bunny. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From sven@gordsven.com Tue Aug 17 14:36:18 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Tue Aug 17 14:36:26 2004 Subject: Animal nicknames for radio stations In-Reply-To: <20040817181814.64FAF396E@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, Bob Nelson wrote: > There was even "the Bunny"--when the rock band Phish played their farewell > concerts in Vermont last week, they rented out WMOO-FM 92.1 (yes, those > are the actual calls!) and re-dubbed it the Bunny. Well..there is "94.5 FM The Hawk" from Trenton, NJ with Classic Rock music. It's owned by Nassau Broadcasting. I think the calls are WTHK. I'd love to see one go on the air as "The Sheep" with elevator music. Gonna put you to sleep Gonna put you to sleep We're The SHEEP We're The SHEEP And there's no Bo-Peep Bob, do Tom & Jerry toons count as "furry cartoons" ^__^ -- steph. From raccoonradio@myway.com Tue Aug 17 15:03:15 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue Aug 17 15:03:28 2004 Subject: Animal nicknames for radio stations Message-ID: <20040817190315.13350397B@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>Well..there is "94.5 FM The Hawk" from Trenton, NJ with Classic Rock music. It's owned by Nassau Broadcasting. I think the calls are WTHK. I'd love to see one go on the air as "The Sheep" with elevator music yup! >>Bob, do Tom & Jerry toons count as "furry cartoons" ^__^ yes, they certainly do! the animals don't have to necessarily talk... _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From lawrencemedia@yahoo.com Tue Aug 17 16:38:31 2004 From: lawrencemedia@yahoo.com (Roy Lawrence) Date: Tue Aug 17 16:38:40 2004 Subject: Animal nicknames for radio stations In-Reply-To: <20040817190315.13350397B@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <20040817203831.76997.qmail@web51303.mail.yahoo.com> Here in the Bay area we have - 95.7 "The Bear" (Country) owned by Bonneville Broadcasting, 104.1 "The Hawk" (Classic Rock) in Modesto owned by Citidel Communications, and in that same cluster 103.3 "Cat Country". We even have weather named stations too, "Sunny 102.3" and 104.5/97.7 K-FOG (Our WBOS of the West Coast). Back in my native state, Maine has 92.3 "The Moose" (CHR). Does anyone recall the television spot the old "FM-103" in Portland used days prior to their launch from the beautiful music format? It was when they announced "the end of boring radio in Portland" sporting a monkey with a banana dancing around on an office desk with the voice person saying "we are going to go banana's on Wednesday". It was an ad that stood out in any stop-set. The station climbed to the top of the ratings in short time. Me thinks "The Monkey", "The Chimp" or "The Banana" might be worked in as catchy phrases. ;-) Portland has "Frank-FM". WBLM could become "George of the Jungle". Roy Lawrence San Francisco, CA --- Bob Nelson wrote: > > >>Well..there is "94.5 FM The Hawk" from Trenton, NJ > with Classic Rock music. It's owned by Nassau > Broadcasting. I think the calls are WTHK. I'd love > to see one go on the air as "The Sheep" with > elevator music > > yup! > > >>Bob, do Tom & Jerry toons count as "furry > cartoons" ^__^ > > yes, they certainly do! the animals don't have to > necessarily talk... > > > _______________________________________________ > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > Make My Way your home on the Web - > http://www.myway.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Tue Aug 17 16:46:09 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Tue Aug 17 16:46:32 2004 Subject: Animal nicknames for radio stations References: <20040817203831.76997.qmail@web51303.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002501c4849b$3ba84fa0$1404fea9@xyz> There is a station in the South I hear on my teks down there (in Va?) called "The Possum!". They tease going to the stop-set by saying "12 more Possum tracks are coming up!" The billboard on the highway is the call letter/frequency...with possum footprints going across it. ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Lawrence" To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:38 PM Subject: Re: Animal nicknames for radio stations > Here in the Bay area we have - 95.7 "The Bear" > (Country) owned by Bonneville Broadcasting, 104.1 "The > Hawk" (Classic Rock) in Modesto owned by Citidel > Communications, and in that same cluster 103.3 "Cat > Country". We even have weather named stations too, > "Sunny 102.3" and 104.5/97.7 K-FOG (Our WBOS of the > West Coast). Back in my native state, Maine has 92.3 > "The Moose" (CHR). Does anyone recall the television > spot the old "FM-103" in Portland used days prior to > their launch from the beautiful music format? It was > when they announced "the end of boring radio in > Portland" sporting a monkey with a banana dancing > around on an office desk with the voice person saying > "we are going to go banana's on Wednesday". It was an > ad that stood out in any stop-set. The station climbed > to the top of the ratings in short time. Me thinks > "The Monkey", "The Chimp" or "The Banana" might be > worked in as catchy phrases. ;-) > > Portland has "Frank-FM". WBLM could become "George of > the Jungle". > > Roy Lawrence > San Francisco, CA > > > > > > --- Bob Nelson wrote: > > > > > >>Well..there is "94.5 FM The Hawk" from Trenton, NJ > > with Classic Rock music. It's owned by Nassau > > Broadcasting. I think the calls are WTHK. I'd love > > to see one go on the air as "The Sheep" with > > elevator music > > > > yup! > > > > >>Bob, do Tom & Jerry toons count as "furry > > cartoons" ^__^ > > > > yes, they certainly do! the animals don't have to > > necessarily talk... > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > > Make My Way your home on the Web - > > http://www.myway.com > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Aug 17 17:03:59 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue Aug 17 17:04:29 2004 Subject: Animal nicknames for radio stations References: <20040817203831.76997.qmail@web51303.mail.yahoo.com> <002501c4849b$3ba84fa0$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <002e01c4849d$c3b57ec0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Good to know that North America's only indigenous marsupial has a station named for it. I know of no stations named for other marsupials, but KGRU (kanguru) and WLBY (wallaby) come quickly to mind--along with slogans such as "You're hoppin' with the Kanguru." There must be "pocket" puns for these also, but all I can think of are giveaways of money to put in your, umm, pocket. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Pappalardo To: Roy Lawrence ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:46 PM Subject: Re: Animal nicknames for radio stations > There is a station in the South I hear on my teks down there (in Va?) called > "The Possum!". > > They tease going to the stop-set by saying "12 more Possum tracks are coming > up!" > > The billboard on the highway is the call letter/frequency...with possum > footprints going across it. ;-) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roy Lawrence" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:38 PM > Subject: Re: Animal nicknames for radio stations > > > > Here in the Bay area we have - 95.7 "The Bear" > > (Country) owned by Bonneville Broadcasting, 104.1 "The > > Hawk" (Classic Rock) in Modesto owned by Citidel > > Communications, and in that same cluster 103.3 "Cat > > Country". We even have weather named stations too, > > "Sunny 102.3" and 104.5/97.7 K-FOG (Our WBOS of the > > West Coast). Back in my native state, Maine has 92.3 > > "The Moose" (CHR). Does anyone recall the television > > spot the old "FM-103" in Portland used days prior to > > their launch from the beautiful music format? It was > > when they announced "the end of boring radio in > > Portland" sporting a monkey with a banana dancing > > around on an office desk with the voice person saying > > "we are going to go banana's on Wednesday". It was an > > ad that stood out in any stop-set. The station climbed > > to the top of the ratings in short time. Me thinks > > "The Monkey", "The Chimp" or "The Banana" might be > > worked in as catchy phrases. ;-) > > > > Portland has "Frank-FM". WBLM could become "George of > > the Jungle". > > > > Roy Lawrence > > San Francisco, CA > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Bob Nelson wrote: > > > > > > > > >>Well..there is "94.5 FM The Hawk" from Trenton, NJ > > > with Classic Rock music. It's owned by Nassau > > > Broadcasting. I think the calls are WTHK. I'd love > > > to see one go on the air as "The Sheep" with > > > elevator music > > > > > > yup! > > > > > > >>Bob, do Tom & Jerry toons count as "furry > > > cartoons" ^__^ > > > > > > yes, they certainly do! the animals don't have to > > > necessarily talk... > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > > > Make My Way your home on the Web - > > > http://www.myway.com > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Tue Aug 17 17:08:31 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue Aug 17 17:08:34 2004 Subject: Animal nicknames for radio stations In-Reply-To: <002e01c4849d$c3b57ec0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <20040817203831.76997.qmail@web51303.mail.yahoo.com> <002501c4849b$3ba84fa0$1404fea9@xyz> <002e01c4849d$c3b57ec0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <200408172108.i7HL8VJF044254@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> There's also (or at least was) the worm, WORM in Savanna(h), Tenn. (I believe at one time both AM and FM.) I wonder whether they are an a dry county.... -GAWollman From madprof@ix.netcom.com Tue Aug 17 17:27:39 2004 From: madprof@ix.netcom.com (Robert F. Sutherland) Date: Tue Aug 17 17:25:50 2004 Subject: Animal nicknames for radio stations References: <20040817181814.64FAF396E@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <010f01c484a1$064c95e0$c6cc9c04@p133> once upon a time (pre 1981 anyway) there was more of a mascot, not station ID: the WAAF giraffe. (Sid, sorry if I spoke before you had the chance) Bob Sutherland From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Tue Aug 17 17:32:06 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Tue Aug 17 17:32:51 2004 Subject: Fw: Spring 2004 Arbitron Ratings for 8/17/2004 from R&R TODAY Message-ID: <009e01c484a1$b5ae0be0$1404fea9@xyz> I know there are a lot of Mainers on the list. Thought you might be interested in Portland, Augusta and Lewiston #'s. These are simply 12+ #'s...that's why I didn't hesitate to post 'em. (Same as you can get in Billboard, R&R, etc.) ---------- August 17, 2004 Visit: RadioAndRecords.com For a complete list of Arbitron Ratings by Market. Portland, ME - #165 Station Fa'03 Sp'04 (Owner-Format) WFNK-FM 2.5 11.4 (Nassau-Classic Hits) WJBQ-FM 6.3 8.1 (Citadel-CHR/Pop) WPOR-FM 9.7 7.8 (Saga-Country) WBLM-FM 10.7 6.3 (Citadel-Classic Rock) WGAN-AM 6.0 5.7 (Saga-News/Talk) WYNZ-FM 6.0 5.7 (Saga-Oldies) WHOM-FM 4.4 5.1 (Citadel-AC) WMGX-FM 5.6 5.1 (Saga-Hot AC) WCYI/WCYY 8.8 3.6 (Citadel-Alternative) WBAE/WVAE 2.8 3.3 (Saga-Adult Standards) Augusta-Waterville, ME - #261 Station Fa'03 Sp'04 (Owner-Format) WABK-FM 9.2 9.2 (Clear Channel-Oldies) WEBB-FM 8.5 7.7 (Citadel-Country) WMME-FM 8.5 7.7 (Citadel-CHR/Pop) WTOS-FM 6.4 7.7 (Clear Channel-Rock) WBLM-FM 7.8 7.0 (Citadel-Classic Rock) WFNK-FM 0.7 5.6 (Nassau-Classic Hits) WJBQ-FM 2.8 4.2 (Citadel-CHR/Pop) WKCG-FM 5.7 4.2 (Clear Channel-Talk) WCYI/WCYY 2.8 2.8 (Citadel-Alternative) WQSS-FM 2.1 2.8 (Clear Channel-Classic Rock) Lewiston-Auburn, ME - #272 Station Fa'03 Sp'04 (Owner-Format) WFNK-FM 3.0 11.5 (Nassau-Classic Hits) WTHT-FM 18.2 10.1 (WMTW-Country) WJBQ-FM 11.4 8.6 (Citadel-CHR/Pop) WBLM-FM 7.6 7.9 (Citadel-Classic Rock) WCYI/WCYY 6.0 5.0 (Citadel-Alternative) WABK-FM 3.8 4.3 (Clear Channel-Oldies) WHOM-FM 6.8 4.3 (Citadel-AC) WPOR-FM 8.3 4.3 (Saga-Country) WTOS-FM 2.3 3.6 (Clear Channel-Rock) WLAM-AM 0.8 2.9 (Nassau-AC) WYNZ-FM 2.3 2.9 (Saga-Oldies) From n1qgs@yahoo.com Tue Aug 17 18:43:15 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Tue Aug 17 18:43:18 2004 Subject: Charlie Sherman Lands at WGIR 610 AM Radio In-Reply-To: <000301c4847e$0b713210$61f29318@HP310n> Message-ID: <20040817224315.19374.qmail@web12504.mail.yahoo.com> > This was on the AP wire the other day. Charlie will be working the > morning > shift. Mike Ball, for whatever reason, was fired. > > Dan Cole > > > I was a regular listener to Mike Ball's show. Two things that I noticed last week that were out of character during his show were: 1)A pseudo contest called the Dead Pool, or something like that. Caller would guest who would be the next celebrity to die. When Fay Ray died, he had a contestant who had picked King Kong's love interest. I thought the contest was out of character for the show and very distasteful. Having had my dad pass away still fresh in my mind made my fingers itch to write a complaint. 2) He wife started calling the show and put on the air with her opinion on various topics. It just seemed odd. Didn't Charlie Sherman do some radio at WTSN 1270 AM in Dover many years ago?? John Derry ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna From n1qgs@yahoo.com Tue Aug 17 18:45:12 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Tue Aug 17 18:45:25 2004 Subject: Former mayor of Manchester Bob Shaw killed in accident, was radio host Message-ID: <20040817224512.51495.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com> Bob Shaw hosted a radio show on WKBR and then WGIR in Manchester NH in the late 1980's and early 1990's. John Derry From dwcole@comcast.net Tue Aug 17 18:56:08 2004 From: dwcole@comcast.net (Dan C) Date: Tue Aug 17 18:56:16 2004 Subject: Charlie Sherman Lands at WGIR 610 AM Radio References: <20040817224315.19374.qmail@web12504.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000b01c484ad$629cd330$61f29318@HP310n> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bolduc" > > I was a regular listener to Mike Ball's show. Two things that I noticed > last week that were out of character during his show were: > > 1)A pseudo contest called the Dead Pool, or something like that. > Caller would guest who would be the next celebrity to die. When Fay Ray > died, he had a contestant who had picked King Kong's love interest. I > thought the contest was out of character for the show and very > distasteful. Having had my dad pass away still fresh in my mind made my > fingers itch to write a complaint. > > 2) He wife started calling the show and put on the air with her opinion on > various topics. It just seemed odd. > > > Didn't Charlie Sherman do some radio at WTSN 1270 AM in Dover many years > ago?? > Charlie did, among many other things, the morning sports after Jock MacKenzie eased off his schedule. The year that the Dover North Little League team made it to the LL World Series, Charlie and I covered it. Quite an experience, especially with the Sherm at the wheel. I had to remind him I didn't want my obit to read I died in Williamsport...so, please slow down! Dan C. From sid@wrko.com Tue Aug 17 19:21:18 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Tue Aug 17 19:21:47 2004 Subject: Animal nicknames for radio stations Message-ID: >>once upon a time (pre 1981 anyway) there was more of a mascot, not station ID: the WAAF giraffe. (Sid, sorry if I spoke before you had the chance)<< Good catch, Bob. I wouldn't have remembered that one...but I don't go as far back with WAAF as some other folk. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF-WEEI AM/FM-WQSX-WRKO-WVEI 20 Guest St /3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Tue Aug 17 19:41:33 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Tue Aug 17 19:39:30 2004 Subject: Animal nicknames for radio stations Message-ID: <200408171941.AA1713242252@mail.ttlc.net> "Bob Nelson" wrote: >http://www.wolf1490.net >Tribute site to the legendary WOLF Syracuse, Great pics of many DJ's - among them a very young Dale Dorman. Also interesting side-by-side of Dale & Bud Ballou all the way through WRKO/WMEX and on to WVBF. On one of the memorabilia pages, there are many names of former WOLF alumni. Among them: Gary Martin & Jerry Morgan. Any relation to the WRKO Jocks with the same names? From francini@mac.com Tue Aug 17 19:52:32 2004 From: francini@mac.com (John J. Francini) Date: Tue Aug 17 19:53:25 2004 Subject: Animal nicknames for radio stations In-Reply-To: <20040817181814.64FAF396E@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20040817181814.64FAF396E@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: There's WSMN 1590, Nashua -- "The Tiger"... John -- ---- John Francini +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | "I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is called a disgrace; | | that two are called a law firm; and that three or more become a Congress.| | And by God I have had _this_ Congress!" | | -- John Adams | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steveord@bit-net.com Tue Aug 17 21:50:07 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue Aug 17 21:50:57 2004 Subject: Animal nicknames for radio stations In-Reply-To: References: <20040817181814.64FAF396E@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040817214920.01b30698@pop3.bit-net.com> Didn't WVBF call itself "the buzzard" for a while in the mid 70s? From lawyer@attorneyross.com Tue Aug 17 23:23:56 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue Aug 17 23:23:24 2004 Subject: Animal nicknames for radio stations In-Reply-To: <20040817181814.64FAF396E@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <4122938C.17861.4C9EFA@localhost> On 17 Aug 2004 at 14:18, Bob Nelson wrote: > I like to combine my interest sometimes. I'm into radio, "furry cartoons" > (with intelligent, anthropomorphized animals), and advertising. So it's > fun to check out websites, etc., of radio stations that have animal > nicknames. You've seen 'em-- The Fox, the Eagle, Cat Country, Big Froggy, > and so on. Often there will be a cartoon character of the animal in > advertising, etc. Reminds me of a National Lampoon feature back in the 70s, of rejected Walt Disney characters, consisting of somewhat less commonplace animals. The only one that comes to mind is Timothy Tapeworm. I wonder if any radio station would be "The Tapeworm." -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Aug 18 09:13:22 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed Aug 18 09:27:40 2004 Subject: Animal nicknames for radio stations References: <4122938C.17861.4C9EFA@localhost> Message-ID: <001a01c48527$1cbd4000$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Not anymore... Now it would be the hard-drive worm. Dan Strassberg, Contributing Editor EDN Magazine | Reed Electronics Group | www.edn.com Fax 707-215-6367 | StrassbergEDN@att.net *** CONTACT ME BEFORE ATTEMPTING TO SEND ATTACHMENTS LARGER THAN 1 Mbyte *** ----- Original Message ----- From: A. Joseph Ross To: ; Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 11:23 PM Subject: Re: Animal nicknames for radio stations > On 17 Aug 2004 at 14:18, Bob Nelson wrote: > > > I like to combine my interest sometimes. I'm into radio, "furry cartoons" > > (with intelligent, anthropomorphized animals), and advertising. So it's > > fun to check out websites, etc., of radio stations that have animal > > nicknames. You've seen 'em-- The Fox, the Eagle, Cat Country, Big Froggy, > > and so on. Often there will be a cartoon character of the animal in > > advertising, etc. > > Reminds me of a National Lampoon feature back in the 70s, of rejected Walt Disney > characters, consisting of somewhat less commonplace animals. The only one that comes > to mind is Timothy Tapeworm. I wonder if any radio station would be "The Tapeworm." > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > From sven@gordsven.com Wed Aug 18 09:44:03 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Wed Aug 18 09:44:14 2004 Subject: Animal nicknames for radio stations In-Reply-To: <001a01c48527$1cbd4000$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: On Wed, 18 Aug 2004, Dan Strassberg wrote: > Not anymore... Now it would be the hard-drive worm. And those are far worse... ^__^ -- steph From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Aug 18 16:37:57 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed Aug 18 16:38:09 2004 Subject: No LTAR's For A While Message-ID: <20040818203757.E843CCA082@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Bob Bittner left a message at radio-info.com's Boston board that "Let's Talk About Radio" will be on hiatus for a while due to family health matters. When the time comes to resume LTAR, word will go forth at some time from this place. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From miscon@miscon.net Wed Aug 18 18:32:04 2004 From: miscon@miscon.net (Mission Control) Date: Wed Aug 18 18:32:49 2004 Subject: Animal nicknames for radio stations Message-ID: <200408181832.AA23068826@miscon.net> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: SteveOrdinetz Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 21:50:07 -0400 >Didn't WVBF call itself "the buzzard" for a while in the mid 70s? > Feather-y perhaps, as is WMMS in Cleveburg for as long as I can remember: http://www.wmms.com/main.html From caustin@cox.net Wed Aug 18 22:05:01 2004 From: caustin@cox.net (Chip Austin) Date: Wed Aug 18 22:04:50 2004 Subject: Animal nicknames for radio stations In-Reply-To: <20040817181814.64FAF396E@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20040817181814.64FAF396E@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <41240ACD.8090007@cox.net> My alam-mater: WAAL the Whale in Binghamton, NY (and sister station to WAAF many years ago). Also in Binghamton: WHWK the Hawk. Bob Nelson wrote: > I like to combine my interest sometimes. I'm into radio, "furry cartoons" (with intelligent, anthropomorphized animals), and advertising. So it's fun to check out websites, etc., of radio stations that have animal nicknames. You've seen 'em-- The Fox, the Eagle, Cat Country, Big Froggy, and so on. Often there will be a cartoon character of the animal in advertising, etc. From RBello@BelloAssoc.com Wed Aug 18 23:45:20 2004 From: RBello@BelloAssoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Wed Aug 18 23:45:37 2004 Subject: Animal nicknames for radio stations In-Reply-To: <200408181832.AA23068826@miscon.net> References: <200408181832.AA23068826@miscon.net> Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.0.20040818233849.020eaec0@pop.gis.net> At 06:32 PM 8/18/2004, Mission Control wrote: >Feather-y perhaps, as is WMMS in Cleveburg for as long as I can remember: >http://www.wmms.com/main.html Babe, Babe #2, Thong and Dirty Joke of the Day would not fly in Boston ! From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Aug 19 00:01:53 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu Aug 19 00:02:06 2004 Subject: Animal nicknames for radio stations In-Reply-To: <41240ACD.8090007@cox.net> References: <20040817181814.64FAF396E@mprdmxin.myway.com> <41240ACD.8090007@cox.net> Message-ID: >My alam-mater: WAAL the Whale in Binghamton, NY (and sister station >to WAAF many years ago). Also in Binghamton: WHWK the Hawk. Let us not forget Moose 92 in Maine. (Or has it already been mentioned? -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From oldradio@earthlink.net Thu Aug 19 06:01:35 2004 From: oldradio@earthlink.net (RBB) Date: Thu Aug 19 06:01:44 2004 Subject: Animal nicknames for radio stations References: <20040817181814.64FAF396E@mprdmxin.myway.com><41240ACD.8090007@cox.net> Message-ID: <015e01c485d3$840a07a0$6441bb3f@S0031698896> And..let's not forget WALE 990AM in Providence (Greenville, RI). A radio "Whale" that migrated from New Bedford, MA (The Whaling City) whose primary 50Kw signal-out-to-sea has become a bit of an "albatros" for it's owners over the years. Now it is "supermax990" - a Spanish broadcaster. =Russ Butler oldradio@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Weil" To: "Boston Radio" Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 9:01 PM Subject: Re: Animal nicknames for radio stations > >My alam-mater: WAAL the Whale in Binghamton, NY (and sister station > >to WAAF many years ago). Also in Binghamton: WHWK the Hawk. > > Let us not forget Moose 92 in Maine. (Or has it already been mentioned? > -- > Larry Weil > Lake Wobegone, NH > From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Aug 19 06:47:51 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu Aug 19 06:48:16 2004 Subject: Animal nicknames for radio stations References: <20040817181814.64FAF396E@mprdmxin.myway.com><41240ACD.8090007@cox.net> <015e01c485d3$840a07a0$6441bb3f@S0031698896> Message-ID: <002201c485da$03152a60$19eefea9@dstrassberg> And with a little imagination, you could imagine that the directional pattern of WALE 990 looked like a whale--albeit one headed for a deep (and, given the station's history, probably terminal) dive; the tail was pointed to the north. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: RBB To: Larry Weil ; Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 6:01 AM Subject: Re: Animal nicknames for radio stations > And..let's not forget WALE 990AM in Providence (Greenville, RI). A radio > "Whale" that migrated from New Bedford, MA (The Whaling City) whose primary > 50Kw signal-out-to-sea has become a bit of an "albatros" for it's owners > over the years. Now it is "supermax990" - a Spanish broadcaster. > > =Russ Butler oldradio@earthlink.net > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Weil" > To: "Boston Radio" > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 9:01 PM > Subject: Re: Animal nicknames for radio stations > > > > >My alam-mater: WAAL the Whale in Binghamton, NY (and sister station > > >to WAAF many years ago). Also in Binghamton: WHWK the Hawk. > > > > Let us not forget Moose 92 in Maine. (Or has it already been mentioned? > > -- > > Larry Weil > > Lake Wobegone, NH > > > > From oldradio@earthlink.net Thu Aug 19 06:57:52 2004 From: oldradio@earthlink.net (RBB) Date: Thu Aug 19 06:57:53 2004 Subject: Animal nicknames for radio stations References: <20040817181814.64FAF396E@mprdmxin.myway.com><41240ACD.8090007@cox.net> <015e01c485d3$840a07a0$6441bb3f@S0031698896> Message-ID: <01bc01c485db$60f8d9f0$6441bb3f@S0031698896> <<<> And..let's not forget WALE 990AM in Providence (Greenville, RI)>>> An interesting, historical sidenote as you all probably already know: 990AM was once the WBZ frequency (WEEI was as well, as stations changed dial positons in the early years of radio). "In 1928, listeners heard an exclusive broadcast of a reception for the legendary woman aviator Amelia Earhart. In 1929, WBZ listeners heard a broadcast that was received in Antarctica by Commander Byrd; messages and tributes were read to him and several distinguished speakers discussed the importance of Byrd's expedition. WBZ could be found at 990 kHz (303 m). At the start of the decade, WBZ's Boston studio was still called WBZA. However, in early March of 1931, that changed. In early March of 1931, WBZ exchanged call letters with WBZA---the Boston station became WBZ, while the Springfield station became WBZA (in The Hotel Kimball). WBZ/WBZA still could be found at 990 kc on your dial, operating in synchronism. But by the late summer of 1931, the Boston studios were moved to the Hotel Bradford; the transmitter was now in Millis. (It first operated at 15,000 Watts, then later in 1931 this was raised to 25,000; in 1933, it was increased to 50 kW.)" In 1941, WBZ moved to 1030AM for NARBA on March 29. WBZA in Springfield shuts down on July 17, 1962 (Thanks to Donna Halper for her WBZ history research contribution to the Boston Radio Archives at www.bostonradio.org ) From miscon@miscon.net Thu Aug 19 11:57:55 2004 From: miscon@miscon.net (Mission Control) Date: Thu Aug 19 12:00:43 2004 Subject: "JC Golden Oldies" Returns To The Airwaves.... Message-ID: <200408191157.AA22478920@miscon.net> Did anybody get a chance to listen in? I had the pleasure to watch Jimmy do his weekly show at the WLLH studios (on Broadway) back in the mid 80's. I (often along with Dan Nelson) would watch him from the production studio as he would Disk Jockey: actually flipping his 45's onto the turntables (the big 16" transcription type - they might have been Gates), cue them up, chat (well, it was kind of a "controlled rant," if you know what I mean), and then hit the post as the record spun. (Those records had some SEVERE cue-burn on them as I recall!) Anyway, for a newbie (mostly cart) radio DJ, it was as I imagined the jocks did it on WGAR, when I first became an avid radio listener in my pre-teens. I wonder how he's really doing thesedays... Mike ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: John Bolduc Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 17:34:47 -0700 (PDT) > > >> Valley radio legend "JC" (a/k/a Jim Camilli).... This will be JC's first >radio music show since his last show on WLLH in 1990 (after 34 years >there) > > >Boy does the JC Golden Oldies bring back memories. In Nashua we used to >purposely hang aroung the "south end" of town, so that we could get a >clearer signal to listen to! The show was a staple during our teenage >years in the mid-1970's! > > >John >Derry NH > > > >===== >New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna > From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Thu Aug 19 12:08:11 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu Aug 19 12:08:14 2004 Subject: Animal nicknames for radio stations In-Reply-To: <002201c485da$03152a60$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <20040817181814.64FAF396E@mprdmxin.myway.com> <41240ACD.8090007@cox.net> <015e01c485d3$840a07a0$6441bb3f@S0031698896> <002201c485da$03152a60$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <200408191608.i7JG8BXO067486@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > And with a little imagination, you could imagine that the directional > pattern of WALE 990 looked like a whale--albeit one headed for a deep (and, > given the station's history, probably terminal) dive; the tail was pointed > to the north. One wonders if that facility couldn't be improved by surrendering night authority and moving the tx to East Providence. -GAWollman From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Aug 19 16:57:54 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu Aug 19 16:58:21 2004 Subject: WBIX Message-ID: <000c01c4862f$3d30a6c0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I'm taking the liberty of cross-posting this from the Boston board at Radio-Info.com > "(the other) Big John" wrote: > > Well I just read on the FCC site that WBIX has finally been > granted Program Test Authority. Could tonight be the grand > opening of their 2.5kw night signal? > Hard for me to hear it down hear below the Mason-Dixon Line. > Someone please keep me posted! Thanks. I checked today's FCC applications and FCC actions. What I found relating to WBIX was not the grant of program test authority that you say you saw, but the FCC's acceptance for filing of an application for modification of the construction permit that authorized building night facilities at the WAMG 890 site on Sewell St in Ashland. (This is the array that was originally built in 1980 for 1060 when it was WGTR.) The requested modifications are the inevitable augmentations of the standard pattern described in the construction permit. Requests for augmentation are a normal part of the licensing process for new directional AM facilities because standard patterns usually specify radiation levels in the nulls that are lower than those attainable in practice (and are more severe than those required for protection of other stations). Sometimes, however, the FCC requires modifications to the requested modifications. In the case of co-located WAMG, the original CP specified 3.5 kW-N but the license was granted for 3.4 kW. The FCC can take a while to process applications to augment a standard pattern (and usually DOES take a while in the case of complex arrays on Class A channels), but when processing is complete, the application for modification of the CP and an application for a license to cover the modified CP are usually granted simultaneously. Before the grant of a license to cover, it is common for the FCC to grant an application for program test authority--usually with power lower than that specified in the CP. Frequently, the power authorized is half that specified in the CP, but WMET 1160 in Gaithersburg MD was initially granted program test authority at 1/4 of the 50 kW-D specified in its CP. WBIX filed an application for program test authority last December--for certain, before the array was tuned, and quite possibly before construction was complete. There were probably legal reasons for filing at that time, possibly related to the fact that the CP was tolled to extend its completion date beyond the normal expiration date as a result of circumstances beyond the control of the applicant. The FCC, as you might expect, rejected that application. Whether the FCC can now accept that application without the applicant resubmitting it, I don't know. Anyhow, I would expect to soon see notice that WBIX had applied for program test authority or that its previously submitted application for such authority had been granted. Fortunately, the modifcations to the standard pattern don't look as if they will cause material interference to KYW. Radiation is increased along and in the vicinity of six radials, however. The most severe modification lies at 330 degrees--to the north-northwest, where the augmented inverse-distance field at 1 km is specified as 60 mV/m. The crucial region to the west and southwest is substantially unaffected, however. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 From markwats@comcast.net Thu Aug 19 19:47:24 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Thu Aug 19 19:47:46 2004 Subject: "JC Golden Oldies" Returns To The Airwaves.... References: <200408191157.AA22478920@miscon.net> Message-ID: <007101c48646$e168a1e0$6f918318@Mark> Mission Control wrote: > Did anybody get a chance to listen in? I listened to some of both remotes that were a part of this 11 hour Elvis special. From 6 AM till Noon, he was broadcasting live at Honey Dew Donuts in Lowell. The Lowell remote was done over a dial-up, music played over the phone line. Sounded bad, IMHO. I made a quick visit to the Lowell shop to see first hand. JC was standing at a mic stand with a WMEX 900 mike flag, Chuck Wright was manning the remote set up consisting of 2 Technics SL-1200 MK 2 turntables and 2 70's vintage Tapecaster cart machines. All the music was on record, the carts were used for JC's jingles & bumpers. JC sent it back to the station for stop sets, weather, AP news on the hour and half hour. From 12 Noon to 1PM, pre-recorded material ran while they broke down and drove up to another Honey Dew Donuts in nashua for the 1to 5 PM remote, which sounded much better on a Marti. I think he had a blast playing music on the radio again, even if it ends up being a one time deal. Hopefully it won't be. I'm curious as to how this came about. > I had the pleasure to watch Jimmy do his weekly show at the WLLH studios (on Broadway) back in the mid 80's. I (often along with Dan Nelson) would watch him from the production studio as he would Disk Jockey: actually flipping his 45's onto the turntables (the big 16" transcription type - they might have been Gates), cue them up, chat (well, it was kind of a "controlled rant," if you know what I mean), and then hit the post as the record spun. (Those records had some SEVERE cue-burn on them as I recall!) I recall the first time I saw JC at work in the plush WLLH 4 Broadway studios, was on a Saturday night in April or May 1978, as I was helping then night jock Michael B. (now Michael Burns of WMJX and WKLB) with a Lowell High School dance, he had permission to use the WLLH van to take to the dance. He brought me in to see JC at work, he was still tossing those 45's like frisbees then too!! Always did his shows standing up, never sat down until the show was over. I believe they had those 16 inch Gates turntables until they left 4 Broadway in 1986 for 44 Church St. ( Note:WIRY in Plattsburgh NY still has a pair in use in their on-air studio. Check out the pics of their studios and transmitters too on their website www.wiry.com) > I wonder how he's really doing thesedays... He's doing great. He still packs in a decent crowd as he plays the oldies (and flips the 45's) on Friday and Saturday nights at Cappy's Copper Kettle in Lowell, just below the WCAP studios in fact. I believe the stage is under the control room/ former on-air studio in the music days. Hey, I wonder if Maurice Cohen ever considered running a long audio cable through the floor, or through the rumored to exist/had existed at one time "beer door in the floor" (Scott Fybush knows what I'm talking about) in the WCAP news booth and hook into JC's sound system. Cheap, instant programming to lead into "Music & Memories Overnight" 2 nights a week. Now back to reality, already in progress Mark Watson From brouder@juno.com Thu Aug 19 21:13:22 2004 From: brouder@juno.com (brouder@juno.com) Date: Thu Aug 19 21:15:21 2004 Subject: Maury Parent - R.I.P. Message-ID: <20040819.181403.25164.442201@webmail06.lax.untd.com> I understand Nashua radio icon Maury Parent died of a heart attack this afternoon while on his way to a WMEX remote. No other details at the moment.... Ed Brouder Man From Mars Productions http://www.manfrommars.com ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! From billo@shoreham.net Thu Aug 19 21:15:19 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu Aug 19 21:15:36 2004 Subject: "JC Golden Oldies" Returns To The Airwaves.... In-Reply-To: <007101c48646$e168a1e0$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <000201c48653$29998130$0300a8c0@boneill> > or through the rumored to exist/had existed at one time "beer > door in the > floor" (Scott Fybush knows what I'm talking about) in the > WCAP news booth > and hook into JC's sound system. Cheap, instant programming > to lead into > "Music & Memories Overnight" 2 nights a week. > > Now back to reality, already in progress > Mark Watson Although I can attest to the absence of any such door, I can't deny the existence of a fireman's pole in the lobby leading to the tap room. And back in the day, Kappy's had live (tacky cover) bands with the audio pounding up through the floor into the air studio. Bill O'Neill From markwats@comcast.net Thu Aug 19 22:17:42 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Thu Aug 19 22:17:51 2004 Subject: Maury Parent - R.I.P. References: <20040819.181403.25164.442201@webmail06.lax.untd.com> Message-ID: <00c501c4865b$e05e7850$6f918318@Mark> Ed Brouder wrote: > I understand Nashua radio icon Maury Parent died of a > heart attack this afternoon while on his way to a >WMEX remote. What a shock. I just heard a couple of minutes of his "French Program" on WSNH (900 Nashua) this past Sunday while scanning the dial. In fact, he did a spot for a pizza shop in English, unusual for the show because usually all the commercials are in French. He had been hosting the French Program in Nashua for what seems to have been forever. In fact, Maury may have been one of (if not the only) Nashua radio personality to have been on all the incarnations of 900 (WOTW, WMVU, WOTW again, WSNH, and he may have mentioned the WMEX calls even though it appears they ahven't applied for them yet). He was also GM at WSMN (1590) for several years, along with hosting the "Open Line" talk show and the French Program before he was let go and ended up back at 900. He also was a mobile DJ for weddings and parties for many years, in fact he was the DJ when my cousin married one of his nieces back in 1977. That was the first time I met him. I only met him a few times after that, but he was very well known in Nashua and the Merrimack Valley. He will be missed. Rest In Peace. Mark Watson From lawyer@attorneyross.com Fri Aug 20 00:54:37 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri Aug 20 00:53:49 2004 Subject: Groucho Marx Message-ID: <41254BCD.8370.5A77FF@localhost> Someone actually =did= take note of the anniversary of the death of Groucho Marx, on 19 August 1977. It was noted on the ticker at the bottom of the screen this morning on CNN Headline News. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From sid@wrko.com Fri Aug 20 07:31:21 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Fri Aug 20 07:32:47 2004 Subject: Groucho Marx Message-ID: >>Someone actually =did= take note of the anniversary of the death of Groucho Marx, on 19 August 1977. It was noted on the ticker at the bottom of the screen this morning on CNN Headline News.<< The only time in Groucho's life when he could be legitimately accused of bad timing. He died three days after Elvis, and almost no one noticed. And just to keep this thread on topic, Groucho had a long career in broadcasting. The radio show he did with his brother Chico, "Flywheel, Shyster and Flywheel" ran on NBC-Blue during the 1940's, and of course "You Bet Your Life" for a few seasons on CBS Radio and 11 years on NBC-TV. And, of course, there's this memorable exchange with Chico in "The Cocoanuts," the Marx Brothers' first film: GROUCHO: Radius...is there a remote possibility that you know what radius is? CHICO: It'sa WJZ. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From n1qgs@yahoo.com Fri Aug 20 12:03:17 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Fri Aug 20 12:03:20 2004 Subject: Maury Parent - R.I.P. In-Reply-To: <00c501c4865b$e05e7850$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <20040820160317.6080.qmail@web12507.mail.yahoo.com> I first met Maury Parent at the WOTW studios on Lund Road back around 1966 when I rode my Schwin Stingray down to the station on Lund Road to pick up some 45's I had won! Lousy records, but nice guy, I thought. John Derry NH ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Aug 21 00:34:58 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Aug 21 00:33:59 2004 Subject: Groucho Marx In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <412698B2.24353.492BA8@localhost> On 20 Aug 2004 at 7:31, Sid Schweiger wrote: > And just to keep this thread on topic, Groucho had a long career in > broadcasting. The radio show he did with his brother Chico, "Flywheel, > Shyster and Flywheel" ran on NBC-Blue during the 1940's, and of course > "You Bet Your Life" for a few seasons on CBS Radio and 11 years on NBC-TV. Actually, it had several seasons on ABC, then CBS, and then NBC radio and television. Groucho was on a number of other radio shows, none of which lasted very long. According to the story, Walgreen Drugs was doing an all-star special, with a storyline that had Bob Hope running a radio station in the middle of the Sahara Desert. About midway through, Groucho was supposed to show up as a salesman. The show was running late, and Groucho sat around cooling his heels and feeling sorry for himself. Finally, when it was time for him to go on, Bob Hope delivered the scripted line, "Groucho Marx, what are you doing in the Sahara Desert?" Groucho ad-libbed, "Desert hell, I've been standing in a drafty corridor for a half hour!" Then Bob Hope threw away the script, and the two of them kept up with hillarious ad-libs for the next ten minutes. This prompted producer John Guidel, who was in the audience, to conclude that the reason Groucho hadn't done well in radio was because he needed a vehicle that would allow him to ad-lib. The result was "You Bet Your Life." -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sat Aug 21 00:54:58 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Sat Aug 21 00:55:09 2004 Subject: Groucho Marx In-Reply-To: <412698B2.24353.492BA8@localhost> Message-ID: <200408210455.AAA28514@colossus.bilow.com> > Groucho was on a number of other radio shows, none of which > lasted very long. According to the story, Walgreen Drugs was > doing an all-star special, with a storyline that had Bob Hope > running a radio station in the middle of the Sahara Desert. > About midway through, Groucho was supposed to show up as a > salesman. The show was running late, and Groucho sat around > cooling his heels and feeling sorry for himself. > > Finally, when it was time for him to go on, Bob Hope > delivered the scripted line, "Groucho Marx, what are you > doing in the Sahara Desert?" > Groucho ad-libbed, "Desert hell, I've been standing in a > drafty corridor for a half hour!" Then Bob Hope threw away > the script, and the two of them kept up with hillarious > ad-libs for the next ten minutes. > Does anyone know if this show is available anywhere to hear? It sounds like it'd be a hoot. Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 +1-978-538-7575/Fax +1-978-538-7550 Sales: (800)231-8849/Sales Fax (800)329-2775 www.cssinc.com From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Aug 21 13:29:29 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Aug 21 13:29:37 2004 Subject: WAZN Nighttime Signal Message-ID: <20040821172929.C7C5286AE9@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> For the last week I've been staying at a house in Harwich Port on the Cape that I got at below-market rates (still too high-priced considering the days of rain, mist, and/or fog). On the whole I was a bit too busy (or blotto, lots of time to imbibe, and at Clancy's their drinks are H-U-G-E, I don't know how they get away with it) to indulge in radio geekery, except to note that the WOMR-FM antenna is atop a WATER TANK, and not a tower. But I got into true radio mode on the way home Friday night (to beat the Saturday AM traffic)...as I neared a close-in South Shore community, I checked out the nighttime signal of WAZN-AM 1470, COL Watertown, MA, transmitter location the WTTT towers in Lexington. First of all, I could hear a fairly strong signal from WLAM in Lewiston, ME that continued under WAZN all the way through Hingham, Weymmouth and Quincy. WAZN became fairly dominant right at the Entering Boston sign, but was tenuous right up to the tunnel. After I emerged from the tunnel at the Zakim Bridge, WAZN was quite strong for several miles until the Entering Stoneham sign, a few miles south of Rt. 128, and there it was almost completely gone. So it appears that Watertown was chosen as the COL because the best interference-free direction from Lexington is virtually due east. This is the night pattern remember (WAZN has a very odd day/night configuration: NW days, ENE nights); there's a fairly large Chinese cohort in Quincy I understand, but their signal is probably just so-so at night, and subject to splatter from WBET-AM 1460 in Brockton by day. It's interesting that WAZN, along with its sibling WLYN airs a number of English-language PSA's around station ID. There was also a message from management (in English" about advertsing on WLYN/WAZN. I'm not sure that even after all this work, AM 1470 provides a reliable full-time signal for their target audience. Laurence Glavin Back in Methuen again where it's just as wet) -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From billings@gwi.net Sat Aug 21 12:10:59 2004 From: billings@gwi.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat Aug 21 14:12:24 2004 Subject: Sports guys to news References: <000001c47827$20333120$98433c18@Sean> Message-ID: <05a501c48799$727f2de0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Jeff Peterson, one of the anchors on WMTW, was a sports guy at WGME. From billings@gwi.net Sat Aug 21 12:31:03 2004 From: billings@gwi.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat Aug 21 14:12:28 2004 Subject: Wal-Mart Funds NPR, PBS & Scholarships References: <200408161441.AA1403977832@mail.ttlc.net> <1147.24.93.17.17.1092682599.squirrel@24.93.17.17> Message-ID: <06cc01c4879c$40801400$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Maine Public Radio is now running underwriting announcements during their news broadcasts for Consumers for Affordable Healthcare, a leftwing group that promotes socialized medicine. The group is very active and often quoted on health care issues during Maine Things Considered. I agree that money is money, but it does sound strange to have an advocacy group sponsoring the news on public radio. I wonder if Maine Public Radio would run an underwriting announcement from Maine Right Life "Fighting for the unborn for 30 years." I doubt it. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Aug 22 00:35:29 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Aug 22 00:34:21 2004 Subject: Groucho Marx In-Reply-To: <200408210455.AAA28514@colossus.bilow.com> References: <412698B2.24353.492BA8@localhost> Message-ID: <4127EA51.2477.531428@localhost> On 21 Aug 2004 at 0:54, Brian Vita wrote: > Does anyone know if this show is available anywhere to hear? It sounds > like it'd be a hoot. I'm told that the routine between Groucho and Bob Hope, lasting about 10 minutes, is included in a recently-issued DVD of episodes of "You Bet Your Life." Since I don't have a DVD player yet, I haven't checked it out. I'd love to hear it myself. "You Bet Your Life" actually benefited from being on ABC, even though it was a smaller network. In the "Golden Age," the major radio networks were adamant about doing all shows live. Bing Crosby, who wanted to pre-record his show, left NBC for ABC because, to get a star of his stature, ABC was willing to let him pre-record his show. With that precedent established, "You Bet Your Life" had no trouble getting ABC to agree to let them pre-record. That gave them two benefits: They were able to record for about 45 minutes and edit down to an interesting half hour. Also, Groucho, who was supposed to say whatever came into his head, didn't want to have to worry about whether what he said was fit for broadcast. Originally, YBYL was pre-recorded by transcription. Then, when magnetic tape became available, Bing wanted to use it. ABC was concerned about the financial stability of Ampex, the company that had developed magnetic tape recording by reverse-engineering captured German equipment. So Bing wrote a check for $50,000 to Ampex. While obtaining magnetic tape equipment for Bing's show, ABC also bought a recorder for YBYL. By the time YBYL moved to CBS, it was already a hit show, and CBS wanted it enough to take it pre-recorded. When it went to television, it was always filmed, so that this system could be continued. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From billo@shoreham.net Sun Aug 22 18:03:14 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun Aug 22 18:03:32 2004 Subject: Twisted Tease...or, Wizard of Awes Message-ID: <000001c48893$d37ab1a0$0300a8c0@boneill> Can you believe this? The NWS triggered a tornado warning for downtown L.A. amidst sunny skies. Started around 8:40 a.m. PT and didn't get pulled until 9:15 a.m. Or was the whole story a hoax? Someone will be in line at the employment and training office in the morning. Bill (Auntie Em!) O'Neill From raccoonradio@myway.com Sun Aug 22 22:29:35 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun Aug 22 22:29:49 2004 Subject: Twisted Tease...or, Wizard of Awes Message-ID: <20040823022935.CCB483A3A@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>Can you believe this? The NWS triggered a tornado warning for downtown L.A. amidst sunny skies. Started around 8:40 a.m. PT and didn't get pulled until 9:15 a.m. Or was the whole story a hoax? Someone will be in line at the employment and training office in the morning You mean the blizzard warning for Dallas is wrong too? (Just kidding!) Maybe this falls under same category as what happened when AP (IIRC) was "testing" its computer system and word got out that Bob Hope had died...they later corrected the error. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From rjoc@webtv.net Mon Aug 23 07:59:59 2004 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Mon Aug 23 08:00:11 2004 Subject: Twisted Tease...or, Wizard of Awes In-Reply-To: "Bill O'Neill" 's message of Sun, 22 Aug 2004 18:03:14 -0400 Message-ID: <5095-4129DC3F-58@storefull-3274.bay.webtv.net> Equally strange; this past Friday the NWS in Gray, Maine issued a Tornado Warning for York County, in Southern Maine..and it was for real!!! A funnel cloud was observed near the Sanford Airport at 3:55PM on Friday. Although the funnel never touched the ground, it certainly gathered a lot of attention. There were several associated severe thunderstorms in the area that caused considerable damage in the Kennebunk area, including injuring a woman talking on her phone. I don't know what, if any, local stations in the Portsmouth/Sanford area generated their EAS alerts for this storm. I do know that Maine Public Radio, as the lead EAS station for the entire state, was issuing numerous alerts throughout the day for severe thunderstorms, although I did not hear the tornado warnig myself. Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine. From news@southstation.org Mon Aug 23 08:47:53 2004 From: news@southstation.org (Larry Lovering) Date: Mon Aug 23 08:48:18 2004 Subject: Twisted Tease...or, Wizard of Awes In-Reply-To: <000001c48893$d37ab1a0$0300a8c0@boneill> Message-ID: <20040823124759.ULML6588.lakermmtao02.cox.net@main> And NWS Taunton issued its report this morning, that confirmed that an F1 tornado was on the ground Saturday, in the Norfolk-Wrentham area, with a microsburst in Woonsocket. An F1 has winds of 90 miles an hour, and it did some damage to trees, but thankfully, no personal injuries in either storm. -Larry Lovering -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Bill O'Neill Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 6:03 PM To: Boston Radio Interest (E-mail) Subject: Twisted Tease...or, Wizard of Awes Can you believe this? The NWS triggered a tornado warning for downtown L.A. amidst sunny skies. Started around 8:40 a.m. PT and didn't get pulled until 9:15 a.m. Or was the whole story a hoax? Someone will be in line at the employment and training office in the morning. Bill (Auntie Em!) O'Neill From rjoc@webtv.net Mon Aug 23 09:22:22 2004 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Mon Aug 23 09:22:33 2004 Subject: Local WDEA-1370 off air Message-ID: <14723-4129EF8E-1490@storefull-3272.bay.webtv.net> Local Ellsworth station WDEA-1370 has been off the air for the past several days. At first I thought it may have been due to a lightning strike during this past weekend's severe T-storms that hit much of DownEast Maine (And rest of New England). When I didn't hear Rick Foster's local morning show this morning, I knew something must be wrong. I made a call to the Cumulus Offices in Brewer, and spoke to their receptionist, who advises that the station has had problems and will be off the air pending arrival of replacement equipment and parts. I actually miss the station, and especailly enjoy listening to the RedSox while outside and away from NESN.. ((and now that they're on a winning streak!!)) BTW.. WFEA-1370 Manchester is coming in surprisigly well with WDEA off air. Isn't WFEA directional to the north?? Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine From rjoc@webtv.net Mon Aug 23 09:30:17 2004 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Mon Aug 23 09:30:27 2004 Subject: Local WDEA-1370 off air Message-ID: <14716-4129F169-2481@storefull-3272.bay.webtv.net> Local Ellsworth station WDEA-1370 has been off the air for the past several days. At first I thought it may have been due to a lightning strike during this past weekend's severe T-storms that hit much of DownEast Maine (And rest of New England). When I didn't hear Rick Foster's local morning show this morning, I knew something must be wrong. I made a call to the Cumulus Offices in Brewer, and spoke to their receptionist, who advises that the station has had problems and will be off the air pending arrival of replacement equipment and parts. I actually miss the station, and especailly enjoy listening to the RedSox while outside and away from NESN.. ((and now that they're on a winning streak!!)) BTW.. WFEA-1370 Manchester is coming in surprisigly well with WDEA off air. Isn't WFEA directional to the north?? Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine ...Scott Sorry I sent this to your old address and it "bounced" back. Hope you get it oK this time. Cheers Rod From rac@gabrielmass.com Tue Aug 24 11:20:23 2004 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Tue Aug 24 11:18:33 2004 Subject: Proofreading the graphics Message-ID: <412B5CB7.3000405@gabrielmass.com> One night last week the late news on Channel 7 had a spate of misspelled graphics: one about the Olympic "ceremomies" (I guess that's kinda like Mothers' Day) and a weather diagram showing a storm in the "Carribean Sea". Ah, well. The Games are distracting so many of us from our usual tasks. --RC From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Aug 24 16:42:00 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Aug 24 16:42:15 2004 Subject: Heads UP: JFK On "Daily Show" Tonight Message-ID: <20040824204201.0EBA686AE9@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> I'm the #1 fan of Comedy Central's "Daily Show with Jon Stewart", home of some of the foremost practitioners of satire...cast, writers, producers, etc...operating today, except when Mort Sahl dines alone. Tonight (08/24), John Kerry is the announced guest on DSwJS, an appearance that should actually generate real news. This Swift Boats controversy has been bruited about endlessly the past couple of weeks, and the "legitimate" talking-head shows would kill, perhaps even removing ears, heads, genitals and limbs, to get the 2004 version of JFK on their shows, but H-less did it. Tonight it's must see TV; and to maneuver this to the subject of radio, cuts from the appearance should provide audio on numerous talk shows tomorrow. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From n1qgs@yahoo.com Tue Aug 24 20:07:39 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Tue Aug 24 20:07:42 2004 Subject: Proofreading the graphics In-Reply-To: <412B5CB7.3000405@gabrielmass.com> Message-ID: <20040825000739.94229.qmail@web12504.mail.yahoo.com> Channel 9 in Manchester is notorious for graphics mistakes, more often on weekends, but they had three mistakes in their 5-7AM broadcast the other day. The worst was the wrong graphic that labeled weatherman Chris Thomas as "Charged with Child Pornography" as he was giving the sunny forecast instead of the appropriate weather text. The one they have been getting wrong nintey percent of the time for years is the spelling of Wilmot NH. They usually spell it WilmoNt, even when a Wilmot Fire Truck on scene clearly shows the correct spelling. John Derry NH ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna From raccoonradio@myway.com Thu Aug 26 12:45:52 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu Aug 26 12:46:03 2004 Subject: Angry listener kicks Leykis in head Message-ID: <20040826164552.9F4D812D43@mprdmxin.myway.com> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1200074/posts {via KIRO} SEATTLE -- A man angry about on-air comments made by radio talk show host Tom Leykis spotted him outside a Seattle nightspot and kicked him in the head, police say. Leykis, based in Los Angeles, was treated at Swedish Medical Center and required 17 stitches for a cut above his eye. He also sustained a scraped knee and a black eye in the attack early Monday, a police report said. No arrests had been reported by early Thursday. "We are taking it very seriously," officer Scott Moss said. Leykis, 48, is known for blunt talk. He named the woman accusing Kobe Bryant of rape, as well as a woman who tried to commit suicide by jumping off a bridge in Seattle and the 13-year-old boy raped by teacher Mary Kay Letourneau. Leykis said he had never before been attacked by someone upset by his show. (Leykis had a spousal abuse incident in Boston: http://www.mediawatch.com/leykis.html) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From dwcole@comcast.net Thu Aug 26 14:28:41 2004 From: dwcole@comcast.net (Dan C) Date: Thu Aug 26 14:28:56 2004 Subject: Angry listener kicks Leykis in head References: <20040826164552.9F4D812D43@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <000301c48b9a$83ed54d0$61f29318@HP310n> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" > SEATTLE -- A man angry about on-air comments made by radio talk show host > Tom Leykis spotted him outside a Seattle nightspot and kicked him in the > head, police say. Thank God he wasn't kicked in a vital spot. ;] Dan From brian_vita@cssinc.com Thu Aug 26 15:04:34 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Thu Aug 26 15:04:41 2004 Subject: Angry listener kicks Leykis in head In-Reply-To: <20040826164552.9F4D812D43@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <001f01c48b9f$876aa270$c3ec33d1@alvin> > > > http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1200074/posts > > {via KIRO} > > SEATTLE -- A man angry about on-air comments made by radio > talk show host Tom Leykis spotted him outside a Seattle > nightspot and kicked him in the head, police say. > As much as I dislike this man and want to throw stuff at the radio when he's on, I can't condone kicking the ass in the head. Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA +1-978-538-7575 voice +1-978-538-7550 fax www.cssinc.com From sven@gordsven.com Thu Aug 26 15:52:37 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Thu Aug 26 15:52:44 2004 Subject: Angry listener kicks Leykis in head In-Reply-To: <001f01c48b9f$876aa270$c3ec33d1@alvin> Message-ID: On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Brian Vita wrote: > As much as I dislike this man and want to throw stuff at the radio when he's > on, I can't condone kicking the ass in the head. What if you used a log on him? ;) -- steph From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Aug 26 19:20:41 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Thu Aug 26 19:20:46 2004 Subject: Angry listener kicks Leykis in head References: <001f01c48b9f$876aa270$c3ec33d1@alvin> Message-ID: <005401c48bc3$4e23a920$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Wasn't that long ago that a talk show host was murdered by Nazis. Just because this happened to Leykis doesn't make it any less scary. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From billo@shoreham.net Thu Aug 26 19:32:23 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu Aug 26 19:32:35 2004 Subject: Angry listener kicks Leykis in head In-Reply-To: <000301c48b9a$83ed54d0$61f29318@HP310n> Message-ID: <002401c48bc4$f11e9260$0300a8c0@boneill> > Thank God he wasn't kicked in a vital spot. ;] > > Dan ...what, the in the headphones? That _would_ be a shame. Seriously, too bad about what happened to Tom. What next, a listener trying to shove him up a chimney? Bill O'Neill =============== No soap...radio. From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Aug 26 20:16:48 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu Aug 26 20:16:58 2004 Subject: Angry listener kicks Leykis in head In-Reply-To: <005401c48bc3$4e23a920$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <001f01c48b9f$876aa270$c3ec33d1@alvin> <005401c48bc3$4e23a920$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20040826201537.023436a0@mail.mac.com> At 07:20 PM 8/26/04 -0400, Daniel Billings wrote: >Wasn't that long ago that a talk show host was murdered by Nazis. I believe you are thinking of Alan Berg, who hosted, I think, a show in Denver. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From billings@suscom-maine.net Thu Aug 26 20:25:09 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Thu Aug 26 20:25:17 2004 Subject: Angry listener kicks Leykis in head References: <001f01c48b9f$876aa270$c3ec33d1@alvin> <005401c48bc3$4e23a920$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <6.1.2.0.2.20040826201537.023436a0@mail.mac.com> Message-ID: <006b01c48bcc$4f9e7330$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Weil" To: "Daniel Billings" ; Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 8:16 PM Subject: Re: Angry listener kicks Leykis in head > I believe you are thinking of Alan Berg, who hosted, I think, a show in Denver. That's right. I couldn't remember the name. I guess people think it's funny because it was Leykis, who is not someone that I am a fan of. But I still think it is scary that someone was assualted for what they said on the radio. It is not far from what happened to Leykis to what happened to Berg, IMHO. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Aug 26 20:41:38 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu Aug 26 20:42:19 2004 Subject: Angry listener kicks Leykis in head In-Reply-To: <006b01c48bcc$4f9e7330$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <001f01c48b9f$876aa270$c3ec33d1@alvin> <005401c48bc3$4e23a920$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <6.1.2.0.2.20040826201537.023436a0@mail.mac.com> <006b01c48bcc$4f9e7330$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20040826204041.02346700@mail.mac.com> At 08:25 PM 8/26/04 -0400, Daniel Billings wrote: >That's right. I couldn't remember the name. > >I guess people think it's funny because it was Leykis, who is not someone >that I am a fan of. But I still think it is scary that someone was >assualted for what they said on the radio. It is not far from what happened >to Leykis to what happened to Berg, IMHO. And this all is a bit too close to what happened in the movie "Network". Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Thu Aug 26 23:03:39 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu Aug 26 23:01:23 2004 Subject: A Boston First? Message-ID: <200408262303.AA3210936620@mail.ttlc.net> A trivia Newsletter I receive claimed (on this date): In 1986, WGBH-FM in Boston became the first radio station in the nation to broadcast in ultra-clear digital sound. \ True? From scott@fybush.com Thu Aug 26 23:36:36 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu Aug 26 23:36:38 2004 Subject: A Boston First? In-Reply-To: <200408262303.AA3210936620@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200408262303.AA3210936620@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <1745.24.93.17.17.1093577796.squirrel@24.93.17.17> > A trivia Newsletter I receive claimed (on this date): > > In 1986, WGBH-FM in Boston became the first radio station > in the nation to broadcast in ultra-clear digital sound. \ > > True? > > Well, the WGBH-FM 89.7 broadcast would certainly have been analog in 1986. And if they were using a digital audio source like a CD, that wouldn't have been a first of any sort in 1986, either. Could this have been when they tried using WGBX 44's video signal to carry the output of the old Sony PCM-501 digital converter? We used to use those at WBRS (circa 1990) to make digital recordings of our live music show, in that pre-CD burner era. We'd record them to a Beta (later a VHS) cassette, which could then be played back through the converter. Wonder if the station still has the tapes, or the converter? (Aaron?) s From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Fri Aug 27 01:46:00 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Fri Aug 27 01:48:32 2004 Subject: Angry listener kicks Leykis in head References: <20040826164552.9F4D812D43@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <016101c48bf9$779fdea0$1404fea9@xyz> > > SEATTLE -- A man angry about on-air comments made by radio talk show host Tom Leykis spotted him outside a Seattle nightspot and kicked him in the head, police say. Well, it coulda been worse....the listener coulda mistaken him for a "yule log". (credit to the Inside Track) JP From raccoonradio@myway.com Fri Aug 27 04:20:08 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Aug 27 04:20:17 2004 Subject: Angry listener kicks Leykis in head Message-ID: <20040827082008.2634A12D40@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>I believe you are thinking of Alan Berg, who hosted, I think, a show in Denver Berg's murder partly inspired two movies (both from 1988): Oliver Stone's "Talk Radio" and Costa-Gavras' "Betrayed" (have seen both). In the latter, an FBI agent goes undercover to investigate a white supremacist group suspected of gunning down a controversial Jewish-American radio talk host. Stone's film was co-scipted by (and stars) Woburn's Eric Bogosian as controversial talk host Barry Champlain. There was also a book about Berg's murder, "Talked to Death", which I have not yet read. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Fri Aug 27 04:25:04 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Aug 27 04:25:13 2004 Subject: Angry listener kicks Leykis in head Message-ID: <20040827082504.C57BE12D40@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>As much as I dislike this man and want to throw stuff at the radio when he's on, I can't condone kicking the ass in the head Agreed...I used to listen to him in the WRKO days and sometimes he wasn't all that bad (though his top-40-DJ-turned talkmaster voice was a bit too much to take at times). But as he headed west he became a Stern wanna be (heard some tapes of his national show). And it really got into the gutter. Leykis used to get a kick out of the fact that talk hosts were sometimes called "talkmasters" and he had a liner (run during Red Sox games; his show was rebroadcast after the games) saying, "SUBMIT TO THE TALKMASTER! After the game on WRKO." Years later, when the Leykis subject came up online, at least one person said, "Maybe his wife wouldn't 'submit to the talkmaster'..." _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From sven@gordsven.com Fri Aug 27 08:24:20 2004 From: sven@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Fri Aug 27 08:24:29 2004 Subject: Angry listener kicks Leykis in head In-Reply-To: <20040827082008.2634A12D40@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 27 Aug 2004, Bob Nelson wrote: > There was also a book about Berg's murder, "Talked to Death", which I > have not yet read. Excellent book. Unfortunately it's out of print, so you may have difficulty finding it. I got mine through Amazon many many years back. -- stephie From steveord@bit-net.com Fri Aug 27 08:32:29 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Aug 27 08:32:29 2004 Subject: A Boston First? In-Reply-To: <200408262303.AA3210936620@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200408262303.AA3210936620@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040827083024.01b5dec0@pop3.bit-net.com> At 11:03 PM 8/26/2004, rogerkirk wrote: >A trivia Newsletter I receive claimed (on this date): > >In 1986, WGBH-FM in Boston became the first radio station >in the nation to broadcast in ultra-clear digital sound. Could this mean some sort of audio-on-hard-drive system? I don't recall seeing any that early, but it could have been a prototype...didn't WBZ use Media Touch by the late 80s? From mamros@MIT.EDU Fri Aug 27 09:38:40 2004 From: mamros@MIT.EDU (Shawn Mamros) Date: Fri Aug 27 09:38:44 2004 Subject: A Boston First? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 26 Aug 2004 23:36:36 EDT." <1745.24.93.17.17.1093577796.squirrel@24.93.17.17> Message-ID: <200408271338.i7RDce8f021727@department-of-alchemy.mit.edu> >Well, the WGBH-FM 89.7 broadcast would certainly have been analog in 1986. >And if they were using a digital audio source like a CD, that wouldn't >have been a first of any sort in 1986, either. It might be remotely possible that they could've rigged up a fully digital signal path from a CD (or some other source) all the way to a D-to-A converter before the exciter. (Don't think anyone had an exciter back then that would take digital in, the way current ones can.) That would be as close as you could get to all-digital on analog FM in those days. Seems like an awful lot of trouble to get there, though, with what was available at the time. >Could this have been when they tried using WGBX 44's video signal to carry >the output of the old Sony PCM-501 digital converter? That sounds more likely. I remember hearing about them doing that on Channel 44. > We used to use those >at WBRS (circa 1990) to make digital recordings of our live music show, in >that pre-CD burner era. We'd record them to a Beta (later a VHS) cassette, >which could then be played back through the converter. Wonder if the >station still has the tapes, or the converter? (Aaron?) At WMBR, we also had a PCM-501, and we also used it to record our live music show. (I was still in school at the time, which would've made it 1989 or earlier.) Pretty sure we still have the tapes, at least; whether the converter's still around is a good question... -shawn From scott@fybush.com Fri Aug 27 09:43:02 2004 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri Aug 27 09:43:05 2004 Subject: A Boston First? In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20040827083024.01b5dec0@pop3.bit-net.com> References: <200408262303.AA3210936620@mail.ttlc.net> <6.0.3.0.0.20040827083024.01b5dec0@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <1080.24.93.17.17.1093614182.squirrel@24.93.17.17> > At 11:03 PM 8/26/2004, rogerkirk wrote: > Could this mean some sort of audio-on-hard-drive system? I don't recall > seeing any that early, but it could have been a prototype...didn't WBZ use > Media Touch by the late 80s? As an automation system, yes, but without any digital audio storage. Until we moved across the building in the fall of 1996, the Media Touch screens simply fired off audio from a bank of Instacart racks in master control. The digital audio didn't come in - and the carts go out - until '96. s From miscon@miscon.net Fri Aug 27 11:13:52 2004 From: miscon@miscon.net (Mission Control) Date: Fri Aug 27 11:14:10 2004 Subject: A Boston First? Message-ID: <200408271113.AA545456258@miscon.net> Wasn't that Jim Oliver's baby? Mike ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Scott Fybush" Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:43:02 -0400 (EDT) >> At 11:03 PM 8/26/2004, rogerkirk wrote: > >> Could this mean some sort of audio-on-hard-drive system? I don't recall >> seeing any that early, but it could have been a prototype...didn't WBZ use >> Media Touch by the late 80s? > >As an automation system, yes, but without any digital audio storage. Until >we moved across the building in the fall of 1996, the Media Touch screens >simply fired off audio from a bank of Instacart racks in master control. >The digital audio didn't come in - and the carts go out - until '96. > >s > From raccoonradio@myway.com Fri Aug 27 12:00:08 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Aug 27 12:00:19 2004 Subject: Angry listener kicks Leykis in head Message-ID: <20040827160008.3950D12D1B@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>Excellent book. Unfortunately it's out of print, so you may have difficulty finding it. I got mine through Amazon many many years back There's always used booksellers on the Web or my local public library (here on the North Shore we have N.O.B.L.E.Net for searching titles, authors, etc. amongst its member libraries) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Aug 27 13:49:50 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri Aug 27 13:50:39 2004 Subject: A Boston First? In-Reply-To: <1745.24.93.17.17.1093577796.squirrel@24.93.17.17> References: <200408262303.AA3210936620@mail.ttlc.net> <200408262303.AA3210936620@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040827133303.026f3688@pop.registeredsite.com> At 11:36 PM 8/26/2004 -0400, you wrote: > > A trivia Newsletter I receive claimed (on this date): > > > > In 1986, WGBH-FM in Boston became the first radio station > > in the nation to broadcast in ultra-clear digital sound. Well, the Globe doesn't give this claim much ink. It may have been a story they missed, or they may not have seen the significance of it, or maybe it didn't happen (what a shock!). But for what it's worth, here is the one mention I was able to find, from the Boston Globe, 29 August 1985, p. 62: WGBH-FM (89.7) is co-producing the Pittsburgh Symphony, under the direction of Lorin Maazel, live from the Salzburg Festival at 1:30 p.m. Saturday. It will mark the first American orchestra to be broadcast live as well as the first live digital transmission from the Austrian festival. The concert includes Benjamin Britten's "Sinfonia da Requiem," Igor Stravinsky's "Symphony in Three Movements" and Cesar Franck's Symphony in D Minor. According to Anita McFadden, WGBH Radio technical director, "After being digitally encoded in Austria, the program will be sent via international satellites directly to Boston, where the signal will be decoded and distributed over the National Public Radio domestic satellite system to the participating radio stat ions throughout the United States." And in more technology news, although about TV as well as radio signals, this is from the Boston Globe, 5 October 1987: ASK THE GLOBE Q. I've heard there is only one station in the United States which broadcasts a PCM (pulse code modulation) signal and that it is in Boston. What station is it? -- A.M., Brookline A. Lynn DuVal of WGBH tells us WGBX (Channel 44) is indeed the only station in the country to carry the signal and has been doing so since Aug. 1, 1986, under special license from the Federal Communications Commission. Ch. 44, she explains, takes a raw radio signal, feeds it through a pulse code modulator and encodes the signal into "square snow," or digital audio (stereo), which cannot be heard on regular receivers. The station then combines the stereo signal with a regular monaural radio signal. About 100 persons in the Ch. 44 broadcast area have pulse-code modulators. When they receive a visual signal on a videotape, to which they have connected their PCMs, they can decode the signal into clear, pure stereo audio, free from the usual hiss and other distractions, as it was originally fed into the Ch. 44 PCM. PCM broadcasts are aired weekdays from 11 p.m. to 11 a.m. and Saturdays and Sundays from 11 p.m. to 8 a.m. If the Massachusetts House is in session, PCM broadcasts end whenever Ch. 44 begins live coverage of House activities. From brouder@juno.com Fri Aug 27 14:30:32 2004 From: brouder@juno.com (brouder@juno.com) Date: Fri Aug 27 14:32:16 2004 Subject: WGIR's Dan Pierce will not be heard today because... Message-ID: <20040827.113130.22523.556595@webmail16.lax.untd.com> WGIR's Dan Pierce will not be heard today because... ...supposedly he stormed in to the Manchester radio station this morning and resigned, effective immediately. I don't know what will be on the air at WGIR/WGIP/WGIN/WTSL at 3PM. This was Dan's second run. He started at GIR in late 1993 as PD, hosting 10AM-noon (and rebroadcast 3-5AM). He left in May 2000 to join WMUR TV, but that only lasted until August 21st. For the rest of the fall he was involved with Gordon Humphrey's gubernatorial campaign, but returned to GIR after Humphrey's defeat. Ed Brouder Man From Mars Productions http://www.manfrommars.com ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! From radiotony@comcast.net Fri Aug 27 16:30:26 2004 From: radiotony@comcast.net (tony schinella) Date: Fri Aug 27 16:30:43 2004 Subject: WGIR's Dan Pierce will not be heard today because... References: <20040827.113130.22523.556595@webmail16.lax.untd.com> Message-ID: <000801c48c74$b0b7ff80$6400a8c0@tony> Very interesting. Where did you hear this? He isn't a bad guy to chat with but I found his show unlistenable. Best, Tony Schinella radiotony@comcast.net http://politizine.blogspot.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 2:30 PM Subject: WGIR's Dan Pierce will not be heard today because... > > WGIR's Dan Pierce will not be heard today > because... > > ...supposedly he stormed in to the Manchester > radio station this morning and resigned, > effective immediately. I don't know what will > be on the air at WGIR/WGIP/WGIN/WTSL at 3PM. > > This was Dan's second run. He started at GIR in > late 1993 as PD, hosting 10AM-noon (and > rebroadcast 3-5AM). He left in May 2000 to join > WMUR TV, but that only lasted until August 21st. > For the rest of the fall he was involved with > Gordon Humphrey's gubernatorial campaign, but > returned to GIR after Humphrey's defeat. > > Ed Brouder > Man From Mars Productions > http://www.manfrommars.com > > ________________________________________________________________ > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - > Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign > up today! From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Aug 27 16:55:52 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri Aug 27 16:56:05 2004 Subject: "Beat the Press" Returns Tonight (08/27) Message-ID: <20040827205552.C45D5C6129@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> The segment of WGBH-TV's "Greater Boston" called "Beat the Press" returns tonight (08/27) after a two-week sabbatical while channels 2 and 44 trawl for cash. The beg-a-thon continues in other dayparts, but "Greater Boston" has resumed. It will be on channel 2 at 7:00 and 10:30 pm tonight, Sunday morning at 8:30 am on channel 44. The focus of course is media in general, so it heavily skews toward TV and newspapers, but topics about radio crop up now and then. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Aug 27 17:47:13 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri Aug 27 17:48:03 2004 Subject: "Beat the Press" Returns Tonight (08/27) In-Reply-To: <20040827205552.C45D5C6129@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040827174602.027975a8@pop.registeredsite.com> At 03:55 PM 8/27/2004 -0500, you wrote: >The segment of WGBH-TV's "Greater Boston" called "Beat the Press" >returns tonight (08/27) after a two-week sabbatical while >channels 2 and 44 trawl for cash. It's one of the most intelligent shows on TV, said Donna, who watches it faithfully, especially when her favourite media critic Dan Kennedy is on... From paulranderson@charter.net Fri Aug 27 20:17:29 2004 From: paulranderson@charter.net (Paul Anderson) Date: Fri Aug 27 20:17:44 2004 Subject: WFSB will stay in Hartford Message-ID: Channel 3 in Hartford is moving out of Broadcast House at Constitution Plaza. They've been there since they signed on in 1957 I believe. Paul From ctnow.com -------------------- WFSB Will Stay In Hartford -------------------- Deal Saves Officials From Vow To Lie Down In Front Of Moving Vans By OSHRAT CARMIEL Courant Staff Writer August 27, 2004 Like most high-profile relationships, the possible breakup of this one began with a rumor. Hartford Mayor Eddie A. Perez heard that WFSB-TV, Channel 3, after nearly 50 years in the city, was considering leaving for the suburbs. He made a personal visit to the station to ask what he could do to make them stay. That question sparked a months-long discussion that was both diplomatic and desperate, with Hartford officials wooing the station with personal attention, key pieces of city real estate and, if all else failed, a vow to lie down in front of the moving vans. On Thursday city and station officials announced a less drastic resolution: WFSB will stay in the city, investing $20 million to build a modern broadcast facility on a prime piece of city-owned real estate at the edge of downtown. The city will help the station settle into its new home, by offering more than $1 million in tax abatements. "They made it clear that they wanted us to stay, and it's always nice to stay where you're wanted," said Elden A. Hale Jr, vice president and general manager of WFSB. The Hartford city council has called a special meeting Tuesday to receive a resolution authorizing the deal and begin the public process that would allow the mayor to sign a development agreement with WFSB and its parent company, Meredith Corp. Under the deal, the city would sell the station a vacant, 3.4-acre parcel along Main and Trumbull streets for $800,000. The station also agreed to transfer its current broadcast facility at 3 Constitution Plaza to the city once it leaves. The deal means the city holds on to a large taxpayer and also means the development of a vacant parcel that is a crucial connector of the central business district and the impoverished northernmost neighborhoods. WFSB's new building, to be completed in 2007, will be situated just north of I-84, and mark the first major commercial development north of the downtown corridor in decades. There's another plus for the city, officials point out. By taking control of the station's current Constitution Plaza property, city officials would have a stake in a prime piece of property that is just steps away from the hotel and convention center that is now rising at Adriaen's Landing. For WFSB, which was being wooed with tax breaks from Rocky Hill and other suburban towns, the Hartford deal comes with some financial incentives. As part of the deal announced Thursday, WFSB gets a seven-year tax fixing plan that would gradually phase in the amount of property taxes the station would pay. In its first year in the new building, the station would pay about $325,000 in property taxes, which is close to its current tax burden in the Constitution Plaza facility. The annual tax payment would increase gradually until the seventh year, when the station is expected to pay about $775,000 in property taxes, according to the city's initial estimates. This year, WFSB's tax bill in its current facility is about $417,500, which includes real estate taxes and personal property taxes, said Larry LaBarbera, the city's assessor. Though it is nothing new for Hartford to offer tax abatements to a business, the nature of this particular business - a media company that reports on the very officials who are now helping it financially - raises some ethical questions among media watchers. "They need to really state publicly that there is a firewall, and that what happens in the corporate office will not dictate what happens in the newsroom," said Rich Hanley, an assistant professor of journalism at Quinnipiac University. Thursday's announcement "creates a need for them to reinforce with a statement that this in no way means that WFSB is in thrall to the city of Hartford," Hanley said. Hale said that although the tax abatement was crucial to closing the deal, it was not the motivating factor. Staying in Hartford, a city that levies a 15 percent tax surcharge on commercial properties, was always the more costly option for the station, Hale said. Building in the suburbs is cheaper, taxes in the suburbs are less, and some towns even offered a full tax abatement, at least initially, to the station. In the end, Hale said, the station's decision had less to do with finances and more to do with a sense of civic duty. "My feeling is if you're from downtown Hartford you need to stay in downtown Hartford," he said. Hale broke the news to Rocky Hill officials Wednesday. Rocky Hill Mayor Todd Cusano said that while he is disappointed at the loss for his town, the station's decision is a noble one. "I respect WFSB's loyalty and dedication to Hartford by not bailing out and leaving," he said For a while during the negotiations Hartford officials weren't sure of the station's commitment to staying. Station officials said they wanted to stay in the city, and toured several properties in Hartford, yet continued to describe a need for a building that had more suburban dimensions: a vast single floor for all of its operations and ample parking space. "It was very difficult to read what their intentions were," said Matt Hennessy, Perez's chief of staff. "But the mayor wanted to be clear that he offered every opportunity." At one point, city council majority leader John V. Bazzano said that to keep the station from leaving Hartford, he would personally lie down in front of its moving vans. The tide turned four weeks ago, Hennessy said, when Hale requested a meeting with the mayor and gave a PowerPoint presentation that described the station's lengthy history with the city. Also included: a sketch drawing showing how WFSB could feasibly build a facility on the 3.4-acre parcel near the highway, the one that the city is now selling them. WFSB's decision to stay in Hartford means the ugly patch along I-84 known as "12B" will have an identity. It has been the subject of many grand plans (all aborted) in the past decade: a new city hall (1998); a minor league baseball stadium (2000); and a domed arena for the University of Connecticut men's basketball team (1995). Courant Staff Writers Ken Byron and Tom Puleo contributed to this story. Copyright 2004, Hartford Courant -------------------- Visit www.ctnow.com for Connecticut news updates, sports stories, entertainment listings and classifieds. From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Fri Aug 27 20:50:27 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri Aug 27 20:50:32 2004 Subject: WFSB will stay in Hartford In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200408280050.i7S0oRNg085013@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > Courant Staff Writers Ken Byron and Tom Puleo contributed to this story. > Copyright 2004, Hartford Courant Please post only your own words. -GAWollman From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Aug 27 21:44:03 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Fri Aug 27 21:44:06 2004 Subject: Bad radio on WVOM Message-ID: <003201c48ca0$7f7b9cc0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> I should have posted this earlier in the week but anyone who tuned into the morning talk show on Clear Channel's WVOM 103.3 Howland or WCME 96.7 Boothbay Harbor heard some of the worst sounding radio ever. Mike Violette left the show last week and starts at WGAN on Monday. CC brought back former host Leo this week. The problem is that they tried to do it with him in Bangor and his co-host Eric in Augusta, where the show has been based for the last two and a half years. The result was a technical disaster. Both hosts sounded horrible and when they could get callers on the air, they sounded even worse. I could not believe that they kept it up all week. When they couldn't fix the problem, I would have thought they would have told Leo to take the drive to Augusta. This was no way to try to keep listeners after a popular host leaves. Big time amateur hour by a huge corporation. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From lawyer@attorneyross.com Fri Aug 27 23:35:37 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri Aug 27 23:34:20 2004 Subject: Air America Message-ID: <412FC549.23192.577E90@localhost> I've been listening to Air America for the past couple of days, for the first time in a long time. One thing that bodes well for them as a business: They sure have a lot of commercials. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Aug 27 23:38:28 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Fri Aug 27 23:38:35 2004 Subject: Air America References: <412FC549.23192.577E90@localhost> Message-ID: <005301c48cb0$7bdf6ff0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 11:35 PM Subject: Air America > I've been listening to Air America for the past couple of days, for the first time in a long time. > One thing that bodes well for them as a business: They sure have a lot of commercials. It doesn't mean anything unless you know the rates that they are charging. Air America did nothing in Portland. It was tied for last in the market. From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Aug 27 23:43:52 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Fri Aug 27 23:43:56 2004 Subject: Air America References: <412FC549.23192.577E90@localhost> <005301c48cb0$7bdf6ff0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <006601c48cb1$3c8dea10$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Bob also reminds me that despite all the hype, Air America was beaten in the Portland market by little ole day-timer WJTO! From radiotony@comcast.net Sat Aug 28 00:10:19 2004 From: radiotony@comcast.net (tony schinella) Date: Sat Aug 28 00:10:31 2004 Subject: Air America References: <412FC549.23192.577E90@localhost><005301c48cb0$7bdf6ff0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <006601c48cb1$3c8dea10$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <001001c48cb4$ef28ffe0$6400a8c0@tony> I was wondering what he was talking about because in Portland, Oregon the network is doing extremely well ... Best, Tony Schinella radiotony@comcast.net http://politizine.blogspot.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Billings" To: Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 11:43 PM Subject: Re: Air America > Bob also reminds me that despite all the hype, > Air America was beaten in the > Portland market by little ole day-timer WJTO! > > > From billo@shoreham.net Sat Aug 28 07:08:14 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat Aug 28 07:08:32 2004 Subject: Bad radio on WVOM In-Reply-To: <003201c48ca0$7f7b9cc0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <000201c48cef$511acdc0$0300a8c0@boneill> Big time amateur hour > by a huge > corporation. > > -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine That seems to be a fine description of most of the dial. Bill O'Neill From markwats@comcast.net Sat Aug 28 10:15:38 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sat Aug 28 10:15:47 2004 Subject: WCAP vs WODS Message-ID: <007201c48d09$7f4be980$6f918318@Mark> On Friday, WCAP (980 Lowell) aired it's "Afternoon Live" show from Boarding House Park in downtown Lowell, where the 2nd annual "WCAP Wedding" was taking place live on the Boarding House Park stage, and on the air on WCAP at 6:15 PM, just before the "Best Of Beatlemania" concert scheduled for a 7:30 start. WCAP's world famous 1974 GMC Mobile Studio (with 23,107 original miles as of 5PM yesterday) was parked stage right, show hosts set up outside to meet and greet wedding guests, sponsors, and city officials. Around 5:30, entering and parking stage left, WODS (103.3 Boston) with it's blue Ford Oldies 103.3 van, mileage unknown. WCAP personnel saw the van pull in, much to their surprise. A few minutes later, the WODS van pulls away from it's visible stage left spot and hides in a far corner of an adjoining parking lot. The van reappeared after WCAP's broadcast ended at 6:45. WCAP is one of the season sponsors of the concert series, and has been for several years. WODS had been running spots for the "Best of Beatlemania" show in Lowell, I don't believe they've ever been a sponsor of the season series. Talking with Gary after the wedding reception (Gary stayed for the first act of the show), he said the WODS van just parked there, no one with it at the time he walked by just prior to the start of the concert. He doesn't believe anyone was giving out any WODS goodies at all. WODS may play oldies, but their van isn't a classic and no match for WCAP's rolling broadcast museum. The WCAP Mobile Studio's yellow may be faded in places, but it still wins for nostalgic value and is a real classic, IMHO. Mark Watson From markwats@comcast.net Sat Aug 28 10:34:30 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sat Aug 28 10:34:38 2004 Subject: WCAP vs WODS References: <007201c48d09$7f4be980$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <008a01c48d0c$2197b190$6f918318@Mark> Mark Watson wrote: > Talking with Gary after the wedding reception (Gary >stayed for the first act of the show), he said the WODS > van just parked there, no one with > it at the time he walked by just prior to the start of the >concert. To clarify: the Gary mentioned in my post is Gary Francis, WCAP's "Music & Memories Overnight" host, who was the on-site producer for yesterday's wedding remote and did some interesting technical stuff to get "Afternoon Live" and the wedding ceremony on the air glitch free. Mark Watson From rjoc@webtv.net Sat Aug 28 10:50:43 2004 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Sat Aug 28 10:50:53 2004 Subject: Bad radio on WVOM In-Reply-To: "Daniel Billings" 's message of Fri, 27 Aug 2004 21:44:03 -0400 Message-ID: <27780-41309BC3-669@storefull-3275.bay.webtv.net> Last weekend WVOM ran ads in the Bangor Daily News Help Wanted section looking for morning hosts to take over that slot. They were also running on-air ads for the position earlier this week during the Rush Limbaugh Show. It caught my ear when it was mentioned in the ads, that "experience preferred, but if you are opinionated, can make your point and can relate to the audience, we will consider you" ...or words to that effect. I guess they must be getting applications and doing on-air auditions!! Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine From markwats@comcast.net Sat Aug 28 10:55:40 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sat Aug 28 10:55:46 2004 Subject: Mobile Studios Message-ID: <009601c48d0f$169e3770$6f918318@Mark> WCAP's mobile studio still lives on 30 years later.I was thinking after my "WCAP vs WODS" post: how many other radio stations currently have mobile studios or had mobile studios over the years. Here is a listing of some of those I've seen over the years: GMC 70's vintage motor homes were popular as mobile broadcast facilities.WHDH (850 Boston) had a 70's GMC mobile studio. WLNG (92.1 Sag Harbor NY) had one that I took a photo of in the mid-90's parked outside their "Broadcast House" studios. They also have a early 80's GMC transit bus converted to a mobile studio pictured on their website (www.wlng.com) WGAN (560 Portland) had a Winnebago mobile studio that I saw in action twice in the early 80's. In 1980, I saw it at a park in Portland, Joe MacMillan was on the air that day. WBZ (1030 Boston) had their "Incredible Broadcast Machine" in the 70's and 80's which later gave way to the "Mobile Newsroom". Does WBZ still have the "Mobile Newsroom" ? WEIM (1280 Fitchburg) had a trailer, later a Chevy camper/conversion van used as mobile studios. The trailer was parked alongside their studios for ages, don't know if it's still there (haven't been out by their building in a while) or if it's still used. WZID (95.7 Manchester) has a trailer which is one of those giant "boom boxes" that I believe is still in use. Can anyone add to the list? Mark Watson From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Aug 28 11:05:14 2004 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat Aug 28 11:05:58 2004 Subject: Barron's: Is this the future of radio? Message-ID: <001401c48d10$83dcdf20$19eefea9@dstrassberg> So reads the large headline on the cover of the 8/30/04 issue of Barron's (weekly), sister publication of the Wall Street Journal. Beneath the headline and a very bearish deckhead on the dismal future of radio as an investment, is a picture of a 1930's-era classic table radio draped with cobwebs. You may feel that $4.00 is a high price to pay for Barron's very downbeat assessment of the medium's future (at least as an investment), but some radio geeks will surely join the financial elite for this one week. Most radio stocks are currently trading near the bottom of their 52-week price ranges and only a few are forecasting more than mediocre earnings growth in 2005. Nevertheless, pure-play radio companies continue to trade at substantially higher earnings multiples than those of more diversified media companies. The gist of the author's take is that, while radio's death has been forecast repeatedly during the medium's 80+-year history, this downturn might really presage the end of the line (or maybe not). -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 From rjoc@webtv.net Sat Aug 28 11:13:04 2004 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Sat Aug 28 11:13:12 2004 Subject: WLBZ Bangor 50th Anniversary. Message-ID: <27780-4130A100-681@storefull-3275.bay.webtv.net> Local NBC Affiliate WLBZ Channel 2 (Formerly WTWO) will be celebrating their 50th anniversary during September. Have seen several promos for their upcoming 50th Anniversary Show scheduled to air Wed. Sept. 1 at 8PM. (Tape will be fired-up if anybody wants a copy, email me off-list) There will be an open house and tours, on Wed. Sept 8th at their studios in Bangor. It's open to all, but they do ask you to sign up and RSVP on their website <> Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine From n1qgs@yahoo.com Sat Aug 28 12:50:58 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Sat Aug 28 12:51:13 2004 Subject: Rambling about WGIR's Dan Pierce will not be heard today because... In-Reply-To: <20040827.113130.22523.556595@webmail16.lax.untd.com> Message-ID: <20040828165058.57534.qmail@web12505.mail.yahoo.com> I am so unhappy with what has happened at WGIR 610AM over the last few weeks. Mike Ball's departure from the morning show got me upset. His show was always the one that was on my clock radio to wake me up in the morning. I've resorted to WBZ in the meantime as I find Charlie Sherman's show on WGIR too much of a departure what what I liked about Mike's show. No that was too kind, but good taste prevents me from typing in what I really think of Charlie Sherman's show. Woody Woodland on WKBR 1250 AM has long been one personality I have listened to, but his pace is much better for late morning, or afternoon, not wake up and get going time. Dan Pierce has been hinting on the air lately that things were not so rosy. His use of the term, I'll keep running the show/station this way until they fire me, was heard a number of times recently. He apparently fired himself. Hopefully Dan will be back on the air locally in the future, perhaps with a slightly less right-wing attitude. My apologies to all those fine morning shows on the FM dial, but I cut my teeth on AM radio and I'm what marketing people who call a laggard! John Derry ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Aug 28 12:56:14 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Aug 28 12:56:37 2004 Subject: Barron's: Is this the future of radio? Message-ID: <20040828165614.86BAFE5BC8@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> >From: "Dan Strassberg" >Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 11:05:14 -0400 >To: ,"S. M. Marathe, UTS" >Subject: Barron's: Is this the future of radio? > So reads the large headline on the cover of the 8/30/04 issue of Barron's > (weekly), sister publication of the Wall Street Journal. Beneath the > headline and a very bearish deckhead on the dismal future of radio as an > investment, is a picture of a 1930's-era classic table radio draped with > cobwebs. You may feel that $4.00 is a high price to pay for Barron's very > downbeat assessment of the medium's future (at least as an investment), but > some radio geeks will surely join the financial elite for this one week. > > -- > Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > eFax 707-215-6367 > Almost every medium-to-large-size city or town that has a public liberry that carries "Barron's". I will indeed check it out there (as I did the "Weekly Standard" magazine's story on NPR. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Aug 28 13:01:36 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Aug 28 13:01:43 2004 Subject: WFSB will stay in Hartford Message-ID: <20040828170136.5D366E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> >From: Garrett Wollman >Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 20:50:27 -0400 (EDT) >To: Paul Anderson >Subject: WFSB will stay in Hartford >Please post only your own words. >-GAWollman Prsyst dlat mogden bleerd zomolat guandingo. Zibblebut dray leero blom. Iggypoo zults! -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Aug 28 14:31:35 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Aug 28 14:31:43 2004 Subject: Set Your VCR/TIVO Now Message-ID: <20040828183135.8EA89E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> I was just checking the C-span I and II TV schedules, and I noticed something in the early-morning hour of 4:15 on Monday Aug 30th that might interest readers of this site: at that time, on C-Span II, yclept "Book TV on weekends thru Monday am, author David Weinstein will discuss his book "Forgotten Network", a tome about the late, lamented Dumont Television Network. The subtitle indicates the author believs it changed TV as it was then known. C-span's website says that it's about 45 minutes to an hour in length, and WARNING WARNING WARNING C-span's timings are approximate, a lot like PBS fundraisers! So I'd set it for 4:00 am Monday Aug 30th to conclude at about 5:15 or so. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From paulranderson@charter.net Sat Aug 28 14:58:37 2004 From: paulranderson@charter.net (Paul Anderson) Date: Sat Aug 28 14:58:51 2004 Subject: WFSB will stay in Hartford In-Reply-To: <20040828170136.5D366E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20040828170136.5D366E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <44E1FD1E-F924-11D8-B838-0050E4D0384A@charter.net> On Aug 28, 2004, at 1:01 PM, Laurence Glavin wrote: > Prsyst dlat mogden bleerd zomolat guandingo. Zibblebut dray leero > blom. Iggypoo zults! I couldn't have said it better mice elf! And please accept my apologies for posting copyrighted material to the list. A URL will do next time. Paul From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Sat Aug 28 15:09:48 2004 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Sat Aug 28 15:07:30 2004 Subject: Mobile Studios Message-ID: <200408281509.AA4192731200@mail.ttlc.net> "Mark Watson" scrivened: >WBZ (1030 Boston) had their "Incredible Broadcast Machine" in the >70's and 80's which later gave way to the "Mobile Newsroom". Does >WBZ still have the "Mobile Newsroom" ? IIRC, in the 60's, they had their "Sundeck Studios" Mobile unit - whatever that was. From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Aug 28 15:14:23 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat Aug 28 15:15:14 2004 Subject: Mobile Studios In-Reply-To: <200408281509.AA4192731200@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040828151209.0273f858@pop.registeredsite.com> >about WBZ Roger wrote-- > >IIRC, in the 60's, they had their "Sundeck Studios" Mobile unit - whatever >that was. It was a mobile studio and it used to park itself at Paragon Park for live broadcasts during the summer, usually featuring Bruce Bradley. I used to drive down to Nantasket just to watch those broadcasts... From kc1ih@mac.com Sat Aug 28 15:16:21 2004 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat Aug 28 15:16:28 2004 Subject: Mobile Studios In-Reply-To: <009601c48d0f$169e3770$6f918318@Mark> References: <009601c48d0f$169e3770$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20040828151522.024af110@mail.mac.com> At 10:55 AM 8/28/2004 -0400, Mark Watson wrote: > WZID (95.7 Manchester) has a trailer which is one of those giant "boom >boxes" that I believe is still in use. You can usually find it at the Deerfield Fair. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Aug 28 17:16:29 2004 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat Aug 28 17:17:22 2004 Subject: Barron's: Is this the future of radio? In-Reply-To: <001401c48d10$83dcdf20$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040828171403.027a0cf8@pop.registeredsite.com> At 11:05 AM 8/28/2004 -0400, Dan S. wrote: >So read the large headline on the cover of the 8/30/04 issue of Barron's >(weekly), sister publication of the Wall Street Journal. Beneath the >headline and a very bearish deckhead on the dismal future of radio as an >investment, is a picture of a 1930's-era classic table radio draped with >cobwebs. I subscribe and will be happy to send anyone who wants it a copy of the article in full-text. And yes, it IS depressing, as depressing as driving across the state of Massachusetts several days ago and hearing the same programs syndicated on station after station after station. Oh do I miss live, local radio... From brouder@juno.com Sat Aug 28 18:38:08 2004 From: brouder@juno.com (brouder@juno.com) Date: Sat Aug 28 18:39:13 2004 Subject: Mobile Studios Message-ID: <20040828.153848.2741.568856@webmail17.lax.untd.com> Mark Watson wrote: >WBZ (1030 Boston) had their "Incredible Broadcast Machine" in the >70's and 80's which later gave way to the "Mobile Newsroom". Or as Bruce Bradley used to call it, "WBZ's Incredible Blue Blunder Bus." Ed Brouder Man From Mars Productions http://www.manfrommars.com ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! From raccoonradio@myway.com Sat Aug 28 21:11:29 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat Aug 28 21:11:43 2004 Subject: Singer Laura Branigan dead at 47 Message-ID: <20040829011129.9B4AF12CFA@mprdmxin.myway.com> Singer Laura Branigan ("Gloria", "Self Control", "Solitaire"), best known for her pop hits in the 80s, has died at 47 of a brain aneurysm. Seen on Drudge Report and also at Branigan's website, http://www.laurabranigan.com _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From radiotony@comcast.net Sat Aug 28 21:26:45 2004 From: radiotony@comcast.net (tony schinella) Date: Sat Aug 28 21:26:54 2004 Subject: Rambling about WGIR's Dan Pierce will not be heard today because... References: <20040828165058.57534.qmail@web12505.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004801c48d67$3f722690$6400a8c0@tony> I agree about Woody Woodland. I used to love his late morning show but I almost never listen to the early morning show. He has a fun personality and is respectful of all kinds of people he talks to. Best, Tony Schinella radiotony@comcast.net http://politizine.blogspot.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bolduc" To: Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 12:50 PM Subject: Rambling about WGIR's Dan Pierce will not be heard today because... > > Woody Woodland on WKBR 1250 AM has long been one > personality I have > listened to, but his pace is much better for > late morning, or afternoon, > not wake up and get going time. From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Sun Aug 29 19:51:43 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sun Aug 29 19:51:46 2004 Subject: Barron's: Is this the future of radio? In-Reply-To: <001401c48d10$83dcdf20$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <001401c48d10$83dcdf20$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <200408292351.i7TNphh7003202@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > The gist of the author's take is that, while radio's death has been > forecast repeatedly during the medium's 80+-year history, this > downturn might really presage the end of the line (or maybe not). I can't find it in my heart to disagree, although I believe the end is not for another ten to twenty-five years, even in developed countries. -GAWollman From markwats@comcast.net Sun Aug 29 20:11:03 2004 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sun Aug 29 20:11:09 2004 Subject: Mobile Studios Message-ID: <004401c48e25$d70f3a10$6f918318@Mark> I received an e-mail from Bob Bittner (a/k/a "Jibguy") who has experienced problems trying to post to our list, with his additions to the topic: " WBET/WCAV (Brockton MA) had a huge Winnebago-type thing back in the 80's". He also mentioned CFCY's giant portable radio trailer, probably similar to the WZID unit, that was used as their mobile studio as well. Mark Watson From maine.radio@verizon.net Sun Aug 29 21:04:34 2004 From: maine.radio@verizon.net (Jason Roberts - WCTB/WHQO/WSKW) Date: Sun Aug 29 21:05:06 2004 Subject: Mobile Studios References: <004401c48e25$d70f3a10$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <001101c48e2d$5961f140$6f01010a@LAPTOP> Is Bob sure it was WBET? WMSX in Brockton had a very old Winnebago during their "Talk of Metro South" phase. I had been told it was one of WBZ's old units, I believe a Marathon Machine(?) It was in very bad shape and I always questioned its roadworthiness, but it looked pretty good. It was so old that the driver's side wall was attached at the top and back of the vehicle, but not completely along the front and bottom, so when I drove the wind caught it and I could see the road below through at least a foot-wide gap. That thing scared me, but it was a great moving advertisement. During my time as operations manager there I never let anyone else drive it. > WBET/WCAV (Brockton MA) had a huge Winnebago-type thing back in the From billo@shoreham.net Mon Aug 30 08:27:38 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon Aug 30 08:28:01 2004 Subject: Barron's: Is this the future of radio? In-Reply-To: <200408292351.i7TNphh7003202@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <000c01c48e8c$bd3f1490$0200a8c0@boneill> > I can't find it in my heart to disagree, although I believe the end is > not for another ten to twenty-five years, even in developed countries. > > -GAWollman If and when satellite radio becomes as common as AM/FM in cars then it could easily be Chicken Little time for terrestrial radio. Look at the success of syndicated radio (Rush, Imus, Stern) where New York has become, essentially, the radio "home town." This could be accelerated by a big radio name or two taking the big leap to satellite-only, as Stern had hype recently, as well as major market "local" options. Bill O'Neill From miscon@miscon.net Mon Aug 30 10:47:27 2004 From: miscon@miscon.net (Mission Control) Date: Mon Aug 30 10:47:34 2004 Subject: Mobile Studios Message-ID: <200408301047.AA91488582@miscon.net> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Mark Watson" Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 10:55:40 -0400 > WCAP's mobile studio still lives on 30 years later.I was thinking after >my "WCAP vs WODS" post: how many other radio stations currently have mobile >studios or had mobile studios over the years. > > >Can anyone add to the list? Well, I did some checking - and I don't know if this really fits into the catagory you're talking about - but there's the WGBH bus. It's a 1970 MCI (model 7?), formerly of Greyhound's Trans-Rockie route. Converted to a mobile broadcast/recording unit in 1984. Originally used to record the BSO. >From what I understand, it is currently held together with bailing wire, chewing gum, and crossed fingers. Not unexpectedly, as I'm sure this is all too familiar a case throughout all of radio. Mike btw, I asked about the digital broadcasting... from what I gathered, it *was* referencing the channel 44 broadcasts that someone on this list previously mentioned. From raccoonradio@myway.com Mon Aug 30 11:23:00 2004 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon Aug 30 11:23:09 2004 Subject: Mobile Studios Message-ID: <20040830152300.90CD6396F@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>how many other radio stations currently have mobile studios or had mobile studios over the years. WBMT (88.5/ Masconomet Reg. High, Boxford) has one, or used to have one, which would go to the Topsfield Fair for remotes. Someone told me, and I'm not sure if it's true, that someone owned the remote mobile studio trailer and "lent it to them" but the man died so WBMT got to keep it (not sure if it was a case of "he donated it to us in his will" or "well, nobody asked for us to return it, so...") But again, I'm not sure if that's true or not. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From billo@shoreham.net Mon Aug 30 15:30:33 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon Aug 30 15:30:39 2004 Subject: FCC...making sense? Message-ID: <001c01c48ec7$d30a4c00$0200a8c0@boneill> Michael Copps, an FCC commissioner who is a Democrat, writes in this op-ed in the NY Times http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/30/opinion/30copps.html?ei=5006&en=74d28cbcd2b0f3 d9&ex=1094529600&partner=ALTAVISTA1&pagewanted=print&position= Copps reminds the reader that "American citizens own the public airwaves, not TV executives." In his criticism of the dwindling coverage of public interest events like conventions. Copps goes on to opine that "The F.C.C. id doing nothing to help as the situation deteriorates." He argues against prevailing corporate-speak by reminding that over 35 million viewers don't have cable TV (don't have access to the cable channels who now fill the niche and void left by the terrestrial nets.) I doubt that any of this ranting will have much impact, but it's a good start. Bill O'Neill From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Aug 30 16:35:39 2004 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon Aug 30 16:35:58 2004 Subject: FCC...making sense? Message-ID: <20040830203539.80B4086AEA@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> >From: "Bill O'Neill" >Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 15:30:33 -0400 >To: "Boston Radio Interest (E-mail)" >Subject: FCC...making sense? > Michael Copps, an FCC commissioner who is a Democrat, writes in this op-ed in > the NY Times > > Copps reminds the reader that "American citizens own the public airwaves, not TV > executives." In his criticism of the dwindling coverage of public interest > events like conventions. Copps goes on to opine that "The F.C.C. id doing > nothing to help as the situation deteriorates." He argues against prevailing > corporate-speak by reminding that over 35 million viewers don't have cable TV > (don't have access to the cable channels who now fill the niche and void left by > the terrestrial nets.) > > I doubt that any of this ranting will have much impact, but it's a good start. > > Bill O'Neill > It was mentioned on WNYC-FM's "On the Media" (heard on NPR) that John Kerry if elected will make it a priority to do a makeover of the FCC and limit if not curtail and maybe even reverse media consolidation. 'W' has not weighed in on the subject. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From sid@wrko.com Mon Aug 30 17:22:53 2004 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Mon Aug 30 18:14:40 2004 Subject: FCC...making sense? Message-ID: >>It was mentioned on WNYC-FM's "On the Media" (heard on NPR) that John Kerry if elected will make it a priority to do a makeover of the FCC and limit if not curtail and maybe even reverse media consolidation.<< I'd love to see him try to reverse it. This is what happens when a political critter gloms onto a subject which seems to appeal to the public, without having the slightest knowledge of the subject. Attempting to reverse consolidation would probably result in court cases dragging on much longer than his presidency would last. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Aug 30 18:29:30 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Mon Aug 30 18:29:35 2004 Subject: FCC...making sense? References: <001c01c48ec7$d30a4c00$0200a8c0@boneill> Message-ID: <004101c48ee0$d15c6b90$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill O'Neill" To: "Boston Radio Interest (E-mail)" Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 3:30 PM Subject: FCC...making sense? > Copps reminds the reader that "American citizens own the public airwaves, not TV > executives." That's right and American citizens have shown through the ratings that they don't want more coverage of public affairs. What Copps is saying is "we know best" and the TV networks should force people to watch more public affairs because it is good for them. That's elitism at its worse. > He argues against prevailing >corporate-speak by reminding that over 35 million viewers don't have cable TV That means over 200 million Americans do have access to cable. Is he suggesting that the broadcasters should program for that small minority? I'm a politically active Republican and I will likely only watch the President's speech on Thursday. I can get anything important from the convention from the news. I'm glad it is not the good ole days when I would have had no choice but to watch the convention. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Aug 30 19:13:29 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Mon Aug 30 19:13:33 2004 Subject: FCC...making sense? References: Message-ID: <005701c48ee6$f6327260$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> PBS is broadcasting the convention during prime time and did the same for the Democrats. From billo@shoreham.net Mon Aug 30 20:04:47 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon Aug 30 20:04:52 2004 Subject: FCC...making sense? In-Reply-To: <004101c48ee0$d15c6b90$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <001c01c48eee$21a2e220$0200a8c0@boneill> Dan writes: > That's right and American citizens have shown through the > ratings that they > don't want more coverage of public affairs. I'm a free marketer, too, but I struggle with the chicken/egg. Ratings as a clear reflection of what the market wants? If you offer the customer three types of soup and then "rate" those three types, we can't then extrapolate those results to infer that the public has spoken. the TV networks should force people to watch > more public > affairs because it is good for them. That's elitism at its worse. The Fourth Estate has been weakening, particularly radio news -- those two words practically oxymoronic. Local newspapers are folding faster than three dollar suitcases. The "big three" have deferred meat and potatoes reporting to thirty minutes a day and whatever they can on cable holdings. Bill O'Neill From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Aug 30 20:09:09 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Mon Aug 30 20:09:11 2004 Subject: FCC...making sense? References: <001c01c48eee$21a2e220$0200a8c0@boneill> Message-ID: <006e01c48eee$bcf6d470$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill O'Neill" To: "'Daniel Billings'" ; "'Boston Radio Interest (E-mail)'" Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 8:04 PM Subject: RE: FCC...making sense? > I'm a free marketer, too, but I struggle with the chicken/egg. Ratings as a > clear reflection of what the market wants? If you offer the customer three types > of soup and then "rate" those three types, we can't then extrapolate those > results to infer that the public has spoken. If people really wanted public affairs, the ratings would spike on cable when cable shows something that is not available on the networks. It is there if people want it. Other than the few without cable, what is the excuse to force it on people? By the way -- PBS is broadcasting the convention each evening. Why does it need to be on everywhere? -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From steveord@bit-net.com Mon Aug 30 20:28:43 2004 From: steveord@bit-net.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Mon Aug 30 20:28:45 2004 Subject: FCC...making sense? In-Reply-To: <006e01c48eee$bcf6d470$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <001c01c48eee$21a2e220$0200a8c0@boneill> <006e01c48eee$bcf6d470$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20040830202539.01b18d88@pop3.bit-net.com> > > >By the way -- PBS is broadcasting the convention each evening. Why does it >need to be on everywhere? Agreed. Is this stuff of any interest to anyone who's not a political junkie? It's not like anything happens there that's not 100% scripted and focus-group tested. From billo@shoreham.net Mon Aug 30 20:39:00 2004 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon Aug 30 20:39:03 2004 Subject: FCC...making sense? In-Reply-To: <006e01c48eee$bcf6d470$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <002101c48ef2$e8c6f7c0$0200a8c0@boneill> > By the way -- PBS is broadcasting the convention each > evening. Why does it > need to be on everywhere? > > -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine NBC, CBS, and ABC still are the gold standards in news. They have the penetration and sustaining legitimacy amongst most Americans from the cultural elite to wage earners. National political conventions have become lengthy infomercials so it's not the best test case out there. Bill O'Neill From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Aug 30 20:42:56 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Mon Aug 30 20:42:59 2004 Subject: FCC...making sense? References: <002101c48ef2$e8c6f7c0$0200a8c0@boneill> Message-ID: <007901c48ef3$7534d3d0$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Hey, I just saw a bunch of my friends on TV as Maine cast its 21 votes for the President. Maybe I was wrong! ;-) From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Mon Aug 30 22:46:38 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon Aug 30 22:46:42 2004 Subject: FCC...making sense? In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20040830202539.01b18d88@pop3.bit-net.com> References: <001c01c48eee$21a2e220$0200a8c0@boneill> <006e01c48eee$bcf6d470$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <6.0.3.0.0.20040830202539.01b18d88@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <200408310246.i7V2kcNc016617@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > Agreed. Is this stuff of any interest to anyone who's not a political > junkie? Are the conventions of interest to anyone who *is* a political junkie? Face it, the people who are the most likely to watch are the people who have already made up their minds (and probably did so four years ago), and they're just watching to see their favored candidates make rousing speeches (or to see their disfavored candidates stumble and gaffe). There's no news value to the conventions. However, it is an error to conflate the natworks well-deserved reduction in convention coverage with their rather more discomforting reduction in news coverage generally. There are still stories that television can tell better than any other medium; pity it doesn't care to. -GAWollman From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Mon Aug 30 22:50:36 2004 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon Aug 30 22:50:39 2004 Subject: FCC...making sense? In-Reply-To: <002101c48ef2$e8c6f7c0$0200a8c0@boneill> References: <006e01c48eee$bcf6d470$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <002101c48ef2$e8c6f7c0$0200a8c0@boneill> Message-ID: <200408310250.i7V2oaEq016655@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > NBC, CBS, and ABC still are the gold standards in news. They have the > penetration and sustaining legitimacy amongst most Americans from the cultural > elite to wage earners. They do?! I can't remember when I last watched a "big three" network newscast. Hell, I can't remember the last time I was home from work early enough to see one! Even the magazine programs aren't what they used to be. (Well, OK, "Dateline" never was what it used to be....) -GAWollman From lawyer@attorneyross.com Tue Aug 31 00:15:07 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue Aug 31 00:13:58 2004 Subject: Barron's: Is this the future of radio? In-Reply-To: <000c01c48e8c$bd3f1490$0200a8c0@boneill> References: <200408292351.i7TNphh7003202@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4133C30B.13011.68F378@localhost> On 30 Aug 2004 at 8:27, Bill O'Neill wrote: > If and when satellite radio becomes as common as AM/FM in cars then it > could easily be Chicken Little time for terrestrial radio. Look at the > success of syndicated radio (Rush, Imus, Stern) where New York has become, > essentially, the radio "home town." This could be accelerated by a big > radio name or two taking the big leap to satellite-only, as Stern had hype > recently, as well as major market "local" options. Or, as terrestrial radio declines in listenership, and the sales value of stations drop, we could reach the point where Bob Bittner can afford to buy them all, and they'll become a hotbed of alternative-style programming. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Tue Aug 31 00:15:07 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue Aug 31 00:14:04 2004 Subject: FCC...making sense? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4133C30B.26841.68F403@localhost> On 30 Aug 2004 at 17:22, Sid Schweiger wrote: > Attempting to reverse consolidation would probably result in court cases > dragging on much longer than his presidency would last. Depends on what specific measures are adopted. I don't think consolidation can be reversed in the short term, but further consolidation can be curtailed. And the rules that the FCC put into effect in the 1960s to encourage diversity can be re-instituted in some fashion. Back in the 1960s, the FCC decided that the AM-FM-TV-newspaper combos were a bad thing. They didn't require any divestiture, but they prevented further acquisitions and required that when co-owned stations were sold, they had to be sold separately. I doubt that anything more drastic than that could be accomplished, short of a Democratic landslide of Roosevelt proportions, and I just don't see that happening any time soon, much as I'd like to see it. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Tue Aug 31 00:15:08 2004 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue Aug 31 00:14:11 2004 Subject: FCC...making sense? In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20040830202539.01b18d88@pop3.bit-net.com> References: <006e01c48eee$bcf6d470$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <4133C30C.3983.68F450@localhost> On 30 Aug 2004 at 20:28, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Agreed. Is this stuff of any interest to anyone who's not a political > junkie? It's not like anything happens there that's not 100% scripted and > focus-group tested. The political conventions these days no longer make any important decisions and should probably be scaled down. But then, there can always be a surprise some year. Like an inconclusive primary season, or the primary winner dies before the convention, or something. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Tue Aug 31 01:53:45 2004 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Tue Aug 31 01:54:13 2004 Subject: FCC...making sense? References: <001c01c48eee$21a2e220$0200a8c0@boneill><006e01c48eee$bcf6d470$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <6.0.3.0.0.20040830202539.01b18d88@pop3.bit-net.com> Message-ID: <007401c48f1e$e652e680$1404fea9@xyz> > >By the way -- PBS is broadcasting the convention each evening. Why does it > >need to be on everywhere? Everywhere? It's wasn't on any of the 4-5 major networks on Monday at all! CSPAN runs it without commentary. And the 3 news channels do political analysis (as they typically do), without carrying much of the podium. > Is this stuff of any interest to anyone who's not a political > junkie? It's not like anything happens there that's not 100% scripted and > focus-group tested. But it can be filled with some element of surprise as no one knew what tone the convention would take until last night. Both Guliani and McCain gave pretty good speeches. Did anyone see them? Thats the next question... From fox893@yahoo.com Tue Aug 31 06:53:07 2004 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Tue Aug 31 06:53:33 2004 Subject: Bad radio on WVOM In-Reply-To: <27780-41309BC3-669@storefull-3275.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <20040831105307.39825.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> I saw the ad on all access. Paper ads are probably primaryily to cover themselves EOE-wise. --- Rod O'Connor wrote: > Last weekend WVOM ran ads in the Bangor Daily News > Help Wanted section > looking for morning hosts to take over that slot. > They were also > running on-air ads for the position earlier this > week during the Rush > Limbaugh Show. It caught my ear when it was > mentioned in the ads, that > "experience preferred, but if you are opinionated, > can make your point > and can relate to the audience, we will consider > you" > ...or words to that effect. > > I guess they must be getting applications and doing > on-air auditions!! > > Rod O'Connor > Southwest Harbor, Maine > > _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com From fox893@yahoo.com Tue Aug 31 07:05:02 2004 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Tue Aug 31 07:05:10 2004 Subject: Mobile Studios In-Reply-To: <20040828.153848.2741.568856@webmail17.lax.untd.com> Message-ID: <20040831110502.17224.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> B97-1(WWBX, Bangor) has a minivan that they have pimped out. Purple(black??) lights on the underbody, LCDs all over the body, killer sound system, cellphone hookup and telescoping microwave tower. I had a chance to use it at the Bangor State Fair back in 2001. If it weren't for the background sound you never would have known we weren't in the studio. --- "brouder@juno.com" wrote: > > Mark Watson wrote: > > >WBZ (1030 Boston) had their "Incredible Broadcast > Machine" in the > >70's and 80's which later gave way to the "Mobile > Newsroom". > > Or as Bruce Bradley used to call it, "WBZ's > Incredible Blue Blunder Bus." > > Ed Brouder > Man From Mars Productions > http://www.manfrommars.com > > ________________________________________________________________ > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno > SpeedBand! > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up > today! > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From brian_vita@cssinc.com Tue Aug 31 09:14:55 2004 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Tue Aug 31 09:15:04 2004 Subject: Mobile Studios References: <20040831110502.17224.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <008201c48f5c$82c24730$6600a8c0@brianhome> > B97-1(WWBX, Bangor) has a minivan that they have > pimped out. Purple(black??) lights on the underbody, > LCDs all over the body, killer sound system, cellphone > hookup and telescoping microwave tower. I had a > chance to use it at the Bangor State Fair back in > 2001. If it weren't for the background sound you > never would have known we weren't in the studio. I know we're talking about radio but does anyone have any pix of these mobile studios? Brian From n1qgs@yahoo.com Tue Aug 31 15:26:06 2004 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Tue Aug 31 15:26:15 2004 Subject: Fill-ins for Dan Pierce, is he really gone from WGIR 610 AM Manchester Message-ID: <20040831192606.25880.qmail@web12503.mail.yahoo.com> I just heard a promo for the Dan Pierce Show this Tuesday at 3:24pm. Was the promo a mistake? Fill ins at WGIR for the departed Dan Pierce Monday 3pm-6pm Gardner Goldsmith, doing the "Dan Pierce Show" Pete Tarrier 3pm-6:30pm, doing an extened "Sports Soundoff Show" John Derry NH ===== New Hampshire Statewide Notification Assn (Fire Buffs) - Fire and Rescue Logs, audio clips, fire history, photos for New Hampshire and New England at: http://www.geocities.com/nhswna From billings@suscom-maine.net Tue Aug 31 19:17:34 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Tue Aug 31 19:17:40 2004 Subject: Bad radio on WVOM References: <20040831105307.39825.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004b01c48fb0$b2ee1520$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Brett Slater has been co-hosting with Eric this week. They sound like they are in the same studio and there were no audio problems. From billings@suscom-maine.net Tue Aug 31 19:21:54 2004 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Tue Aug 31 19:22:00 2004 Subject: Mobile Studios References: <20040831110502.17224.qmail@web61108.mail.yahoo.com> <008201c48f5c$82c24730$6600a8c0@brianhome> Message-ID: <000801c48fb1$4dcf2160$bee705cf@yourm3vezyx8af> When I first start in radio at AM 900 WKXA Brunswick twenty years ago, the station was mainly automated with a local morning show. They had a van that they used for remote broadcasts. At some point, the thing died and couldn't be driven so the station worked out a deal with a towing company and would have it towed to remote broadcasts. I am not making this up. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine