From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Thu Nov 1 01:48:05 2007 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 01:48:05 -0400 Subject: Carr's latest legal moves References: Message-ID: <00ce01c81c4b$895345c0$6401a8c0@default> >From joe@attorneyross.com >> Which is why whoever got the Legislature to pass a ban on noncompete clauses needs to get going again -- file an Amicus brief with the appellate courts in the Howie Carr case and, if that case doesn't go well, seek further legislation. << >From what I understand AFTRA got this thru the legislature. It appears that Howie is 'persona non grata' with AFTRA these days. He was constantly badmouthing the union, and was one of those involved in having AFTRA decertified from WRKO & WEEI. I don't think the union is going to do much for Howie. From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Nov 1 09:54:04 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 09:54:04 -0400 Subject: Carr's latest legal moves References: <00ce01c81c4b$895345c0$6401a8c0@default> Message-ID: <002301c81c8e$ad9d2570$49ada742@SatU205S5044> I always though Howie was a perfect example of someone who is "too clever by half." The more I hear about him, the more convinced I become that that assessment is correct. All I can say is that his travails couldn't be happening to a more deserving person. Way to go, Howie! Keep it up. I hope your shenanigans land you forever in radio oblivion. (I should be so lucky. He'll be back before we know it; I'm convinced.) ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don A" To: "A. Joseph Ross" ; "BRI" Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 1:48 AM Subject: Re: Carr's latest legal moves > >>From joe@attorneyross.com >>> > Which is why whoever got the Legislature to pass a ban on noncompete > clauses needs to get going again -- file an Amicus brief with the > appellate courts in the Howie Carr case and, if that case doesn't go > well, seek further legislation. > << > > >>From what I understand AFTRA got this thru the legislature. > > It appears that Howie is 'persona non grata' with AFTRA these days. > > He was constantly badmouthing the union, and was one of those > involved in having AFTRA decertified from WRKO & WEEI. > > I don't think the union is going to do much for Howie. From hmglaz@worldnet.att.net Thu Nov 1 13:03:31 2007 From: hmglaz@worldnet.att.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:03:31 -0500 Subject: WBZ website up-dates References: <20071101024402.A62F944C034@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <001701c81ca9$28c7e9a0$a6984c0c@oemcomputer> ----- Original Message ----- From: Donna Halper To: Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:43 PM Subject: WBZ website up-dates > As some of you know, I am working with Peter Casey and others at WBZ > to up-date the website's history--- will let you know when it's > completed, but I think you'll be pleased. I was curious about two > things. One, do any of you have old WBZ surveys or old promotional > materials that have some of the WBZ slogans the station used to use > in the 50s or 60s? I want to scan some of them-- like "the spirit of > New England" or "the Greatest Airshow on Earth," or "the Live > Five." I have some in my own collection, but would be interested to > know who else has some... mine are not all in the greatest shape. > > Secondly, as I mentioned, we want to do a tribute page-- with > profiles of past WBZ stars like Bruce Bradley or Dick Summer or Larry > Glick. Before we round up the usual suspects, do you have some > nominees for that page-- any former news or sports or air > personalities who deserve to be remembered? How about Ron Landry (RIP) and Robin Young (still with us, and on WBUR at noon Mon-Fri)? Howard From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Nov 1 12:13:48 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:13:48 -0400 Subject: WBZ website up-dates References: <20071101024402.A62F944C034@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com> <001701c81ca9$28c7e9a0$a6984c0c@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <001001c81ca2$31e610e0$f1ada742@SatU205S5044> AFAIK, all three that you mentioned (not just Robin Young) are still living, though Robin is, umm, the youngest of the three. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Glazer" To: "Donna Halper" ; Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 1:03 PM Subject: Re: WBZ website up-dates > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Donna Halper > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:43 PM > Subject: WBZ website up-dates > > >> As some of you know, I am working with Peter Casey and others at >> WBZ >> to up-date the website's history--- will let you know when it's >> completed, but I think you'll be pleased. I was curious about two >> things. One, do any of you have old WBZ surveys or old promotional >> materials that have some of the WBZ slogans the station used to use >> in the 50s or 60s? I want to scan some of them-- like "the spirit >> of >> New England" or "the Greatest Airshow on Earth," or "the Live >> Five." I have some in my own collection, but would be interested >> to >> know who else has some... mine are not all in the greatest shape. >> >> Secondly, as I mentioned, we want to do a tribute page-- with >> profiles of past WBZ stars like Bruce Bradley or Dick Summer or >> Larry >> Glick. Before we round up the usual suspects, do you have some >> nominees for that page-- any former news or sports or air >> personalities who deserve to be remembered? > > How about Ron Landry (RIP) and Robin Young (still with us, and on > WBUR at > noon Mon-Fri)? > > Howard > From kvahey@gmail.com Thu Nov 1 13:23:38 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:23:38 -0500 Subject: WBZ website up-dates In-Reply-To: <001001c81ca2$31e610e0$f1ada742@SatU205S5044> References: <20071101024402.A62F944C034@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com> <001701c81ca9$28c7e9a0$a6984c0c@oemcomputer> <001001c81ca2$31e610e0$f1ada742@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <4fc429770711011023q5bfaec70ob3e6afe1e9971c5d@mail.gmail.com> Jefferson Kaye would be another. I think he is still working for NFL Films in Philadelphia. http://www.buffalobroadcasters.com/hof_2002.asp From scott@fybush.com Thu Nov 1 15:18:01 2007 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:18:01 -0400 Subject: I despise the Globe at this particular moment... Message-ID: <472A2669.30005@fybush.com> ...if only because they're making it ridiculously expensive for me to get my hands on one of Monday's World Series commemorative papers. Actually, there are three of us up here in Rochester who'd like to have them. It used to be that you'd call up their back issues department, pay four or five bucks and they'd send the papers out to you. (It's still that way at most papers - the Worcester Telegram & Gazette, which is even OWNED by the Globe, for crying out loud, charged me all of $3.60 for a paper, which arrived in today's mail. The Patriot-Ledger, Enterprise and Lowell Sun were a little more, but not much.) The Globe itself, however, seems to have smelled profit in the air. It's now charging a ridiculous $11 and change for shipping ONE paper, plus the $4 charge for the paper itself. That comes to a whopping $25 for the three papers. (Which, by the way, they tried to charge to my credit card TWICE. Bastards.) They've got a litany of excuses for the shipping charges, including the particularly ridiculous "because of Homeland Security rules, we have to send them this way and can't send them First Class." This is patent nonsense: when the very same Boston Globe has failed to include all the supplements in the Sunday papers coming out my way, they've sent me the entire Sunday paper, ads and all...and they've sent it first class at a postage cost of about $5. So I've cancelled my order (which they've apparently not yet gotten around to even shipping, anyway, four days after it was placed)...but I still want the darned papers. Is there anyone who has reason to be around Morrissey Boulevard who'd be willing to pick some up (I'd like to see Tuesday's and Wednesday's papers, too) and ship them this way? I'll gladly pay a reasonable amount for shipping...just not the exorbitant amount the Globe wants to charge me. And, hey, maybe the folks over at WEEI (no fans of the Globe, they) would like to have some fun with this one, too...I know we have some Guest Street people on this list. s From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Thu Nov 1 18:33:08 2007 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:33:08 -0400 Subject: Official Imus Return. Message-ID: <001901c81cd7$2f64f130$0201a8c0@Family> according to a bulletin from RadioInk, quoting the Associated Press - Don Imus will return to the airwaves December 3 on WABC, replacing the current morning show. Charles McCord will also join Mr. Imus. no word yet on whether or not Bernard has been invited to the party. - -Chuck Igo disclaimer: I have, in the past, listened to and enjoyed Don Imus radio broadcasts. i have even provided morning show prep material for Mr.Imus during one of his Boston studio visits. i have watched and clapped for Mr.McCord's dog in the dog show. i have laughed at some of Bernard's material. i have heard of WABC. i have no direct connection to any of the above mentioned people or media entities. From scott@fybush.com Thu Nov 1 18:41:47 2007 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:41:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Official Imus Return. In-Reply-To: <001901c81cd7$2f64f130$0201a8c0@Family> References: <001901c81cd7$2f64f130$0201a8c0@Family> Message-ID: <38492.66.195.169.98.1193956907.squirrel@webmail7.pair.com> > disclaimer: I have, in the past, listened to and enjoyed Don Imus radio > broadcasts. i have even provided morning show prep material for Mr.Imus > during one of his Boston studio visits. i have watched and clapped for > Mr.McCord's dog in the dog show. i have laughed at some of Bernard's > material. i have heard of WABC. i have no direct connection to any of > the above mentioned people or media entities. Ah, but WABC is owned by Citadel, and you compete with Citadel stations in your home market, don't you now, Mr. Igo? ;-) s From billohno@gmail.com Thu Nov 1 19:30:03 2007 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:30:03 -0400 Subject: Official Imus Return. In-Reply-To: <001901c81cd7$2f64f130$0201a8c0@Family> References: <001901c81cd7$2f64f130$0201a8c0@Family> Message-ID: <472A617B.6080304@gmail.com> Chuck Igo wrote: > - -Chuck Igo > disclaimer: I have, in the past, listened to and enjoyed Don Imus radio broadcasts. i have even provided morning show prep material for Mr.Imus during one of his Boston studio visits. i have watched and clapped for Mr.McCord's dog in the dog show. i have laughed at some of Bernard's material. i have heard of WABC. i have no direct connection to any of the above mentioned people or media entities. > Ah, yes, but what Mr. Igo fails to disclose with all due diligence is that he has, indeed, mastered his A-B-Cs. That expert level of competency is akin to a holder of a Black Belt in martial arts speaking nicely of a Charlie Chan film without revealing said mastery. Mr. Igo also neglects to reveal in his post that he has been overheard exclaiming, "that S-O-B can't suck enough." And the occasional, "HAVE mercy!" And all of that in the context of reading posts that butt-kick his likeness clear onto Ilseboro without a boat. I'm just sayin'. Bill O'Neill -- I could tell my parents hated me. My bath toys were a toaster and radio. Rodney Dangerfield From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Nov 2 00:25:53 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:25:53 -0500 Subject: Carr's latest legal moves In-Reply-To: <00ce01c81c4b$895345c0$6401a8c0@default> References: , <00ce01c81c4b$895345c0$6401a8c0@default> Message-ID: <472A6081.9936.7F7D92@joe.attorneyross.com> On 1 Nov 2007 at 1:48, Don A wrote: > From what I understand AFTRA got this thru the legislature. > > It appears that Howie is 'persona non grata' with AFTRA these days. > > He was constantly badmouthing the union, and was one of those involved > in having AFTRA decertified from WRKO & WEEI. > > I don't think the union is going to do much for Howie. I guess you reap what you sow. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Fri Nov 2 03:54:40 2007 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (chuckigo@maine.rr.com) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 03:54:40 -0400 Subject: Official Imus Return. In-Reply-To: <472A617B.6080304@gmail.com> References: <001901c81cd7$2f64f130$0201a8c0@Family> <472A617B.6080304@gmail.com> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill O'Neill Date: Thursday, November 1, 2007 8:16 pm Subject: Re: Official Imus Return. > Ah, yes, but what Mr. Igo fails to disclose with all due diligence > is > that he has, indeed, mastered his A-B-Cs. That expert level of > competency is akin to a holder of a Black Belt in martial arts > speaking > nicely of a Charlie Chan film without revealing said mastery. Mr. > Igo > also neglects to reveal in his post that he has been overheard > exclaiming, "that S-O-B can't suck enough." And the occasional, > "HAVE > mercy!" And all of that in the context of reading posts that butt- > kick > his likeness clear onto Ilseboro without a boat. I'm just sayin'. > and i did fail to mention that i mentioned "The I-Man" in my novel, "Taken Identity." sorry about that omission. i've also been known to say "that'll be enough, Bernard," even to people who aren't named Bernard. - -Chuck Igo From hmglaz@worldnet.att.net Fri Nov 2 10:23:33 2007 From: hmglaz@worldnet.att.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:23:33 -0500 Subject: WBZ website up-dates References: <20071101024402.A62F944C034@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com> <001701c81ca9$28c7e9a0$a6984c0c@oemcomputer> <001001c81ca2$31e610e0$f1ada742@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <000401c81d5b$f41363c0$ef814c0c@oemcomputer> Ron Landry died a few years ago, IIRC. Also, my impression from Donna's original post is that the tribute page will be for ex-WBZers, living and dead. Larry Glick was mentioned; he's still alive, right? Howard ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan.Strassberg To: Howard Glazer ; Donna Halper ; Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:13 AM Subject: Re: WBZ website up-dates > AFAIK, all three that you mentioned (not just Robin Young) are still > living, though Robin is, umm, the youngest of the three. > > ----- > Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) > eFax 1-707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Howard Glazer" > To: "Donna Halper" ; > > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 1:03 PM > Subject: Re: WBZ website up-dates > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Donna Halper > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:43 PM > > Subject: WBZ website up-dates > > > > > >> As some of you know, I am working with Peter Casey and others at > >> WBZ > >> to up-date the website's history--- will let you know when it's > >> completed, but I think you'll be pleased. I was curious about two > >> things. One, do any of you have old WBZ surveys or old promotional > >> materials that have some of the WBZ slogans the station used to use > >> in the 50s or 60s? I want to scan some of them-- like "the spirit > >> of > >> New England" or "the Greatest Airshow on Earth," or "the Live > >> Five." I have some in my own collection, but would be interested > >> to > >> know who else has some... mine are not all in the greatest shape. > >> > >> Secondly, as I mentioned, we want to do a tribute page-- with > >> profiles of past WBZ stars like Bruce Bradley or Dick Summer or > >> Larry > >> Glick. Before we round up the usual suspects, do you have some > >> nominees for that page-- any former news or sports or air > >> personalities who deserve to be remembered? > > > > How about Ron Landry (RIP) and Robin Young (still with us, and on > > WBUR at > > noon Mon-Fri)? > > > > Howard > > > From gary@garysicecream.com Fri Nov 2 10:34:26 2007 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:34:26 -0500 Subject: WBZ website up-dates In-Reply-To: <000401c81d5b$f41363c0$ef814c0c@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <018c01c81d5d$78775670$0200a8c0@Office> Let me check! >insert whistle here< Howard wrote: Larry Glick was mentioned; he's still alive, right? From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Nov 2 09:41:46 2007 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:41:46 -0400 Subject: WBZ website up-dates In-Reply-To: <000401c81d5b$f41363c0$ef814c0c@oemcomputer> References: <20071101024402.A62F944C034@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com> <001701c81ca9$28c7e9a0$a6984c0c@oemcomputer> <001001c81ca2$31e610e0$f1ada742@SatU205S5044> <000401c81d5b$f41363c0$ef814c0c@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <20071102134212.A5E8644E3A9@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> At 10:23 AM 11/2/2007, Howard Glazer wrote: >Ron Landry died a few years ago, IIRC. Also, my impression from Donna's >original post is that the tribute page will be for ex-WBZers, living and >dead. Larry Glick was mentioned; he's still alive, right? Yes, we are talking two "pages" on the site. One location is a tribute to those who passed away (like David Brudnoy, Paul Sullivan, Carl DeSuze, Streeter Stuart, etc), and another is for those still alive. The common thread is that the people would have all worked for WBZ for a long enough period of time to be associated in people's minds with the station. From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Nov 2 09:52:03 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 08:52:03 -0500 Subject: WBZ website up-dates In-Reply-To: <20071102134212.A5E8644E3A9@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> References: <20071101024402.A62F944C034@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com> <001701c81ca9$28c7e9a0$a6984c0c@oemcomputer> <001001c81ca2$31e610e0$f1ada742@SatU205S5044> <000401c81d5b$f41363c0$ef814c0c@oemcomputer> <20071102134212.A5E8644E3A9@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770711020652w4b62a19od14549e4483489b4@mail.gmail.com> Larry is alive and well and is working as a greeter at Legal Seafoods in Boca Raton, Florida From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Fri Nov 2 11:44:22 2007 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:44:22 -0400 Subject: Daytimer sign-offs Message-ID: <006301c81d67$3ffe5a50$6401a8c0@default> I know some of you know this like the back of your hand...but what time do Daytimers in New England have to sign-off in Novermber? Thanks From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Nov 2 11:48:54 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:48:54 -0500 Subject: Thank goodness we not in Chicago Message-ID: <4fc429770711020848j13784dd5ye48eb60be1fc22b1@mail.gmail.com> CBS flipped WCKG this morning to Christmas music. This prompted Clear Channel's WLIT to do the same a week earlier than planned. It's NOVEMBER 2nd http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-071101wckg,0,1892233.story?coll=chi_tab01_layout From marklaurence@mac.com Fri Nov 2 11:59:05 2007 From: marklaurence@mac.com (marklaurence@mac.com) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 08:59:05 -0700 Subject: Daytimer sign-offs In-Reply-To: <006301c81d67$3ffe5a50$6401a8c0@default> References: <006301c81d67$3ffe5a50$6401a8c0@default> Message-ID: On Friday, November 02, 2007, at 11:49AM, "Don A" wrote: >I know some of you know this like the back of your hand...but what time do >Daytimers in New England have to sign-off in Novermber? It's not the same everywhere in New England. When I worked in Bangor it was 4:15, but I seem to remember the Boston stations got an extra 15 minutes. Mark From irw@well.com Fri Nov 2 12:23:55 2007 From: irw@well.com (Blaine Thompson) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Thank goodness we not in Chicago In-Reply-To: <4fc429770711020848j13784dd5ye48eb60be1fc22b1@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770711020848j13784dd5ye48eb60be1fc22b1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 93.1fm in Indianapolis changed formats to Christmas Music in anticipation of a format change in early 2008. Their format change happened 8 October, and it was at least 75 outside that day! - Blaine From nostaticatall@charter.net Fri Nov 2 12:24:54 2007 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:24:54 -0400 Subject: Daytimer sign-offs In-Reply-To: References: <006301c81d67$3ffe5a50$6401a8c0@default> Message-ID: And in Connecticut and other parts of Western New England it's fifteen minutes after that. The 4:15 time is Standard Time. We are still in Daylight Savings Time until Sunday morning, so until the time change Boston area daytimers (like WILD) have to shut it down at 5:15. Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Nov 2, 2007, at 11:59 AM, marklaurence@mac.com wrote: > On Friday, November 02, 2007, at 11:49AM, "Don A" > wrote: >> I know some of you know this like the back of your hand...but what >> time do >> Daytimers in New England have to sign-off in Novermber? > > It's not the same everywhere in New England. When I worked in Bangor > it was 4:15, but > I seem to remember the Boston stations got an extra 15 minutes. > > Mark > From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Nov 2 12:32:46 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:32:46 -0400 Subject: Daytimer sign-offs References: <006301c81d67$3ffe5a50$6401a8c0@default> Message-ID: <002301c81d6e$017063d0$56eda644@SatU205S5044> A bunch of different times. New England is WAY too geographically large for one sunrise time and one sunset time to work for the entire region. In the immediate Boston area, I think the times (STANDARD TIME) for sunrise and sunset are 6:45AM and 4:30PM Eastern. But if you checked (as you can easily do at the FCC Web site--the CDBS data for every AM that makes operational changes at sunrise and sunset contains a month-by-month table of sunrise/sunset times for that station), you could easily find that the times for different communities are different. Sometimes, the times are different for different stations licensed to the same community; the geographic coordinates can differ enough that the average sunrise or sunset times in a particular month rounded to the nearest quarter hour can work out to be different. After all, if the average sunset time somewhere is 4:37:29 (rounded to 4:30), you don't have to go very far to find a place where the corresponding time is 4:37:31 (rounded to 4:45). ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don A" To: "BRI" Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 11:44 AM Subject: Daytimer sign-offs >I know some of you know this like the back of your hand...but what >time do Daytimers in New England have to sign-off in Novermber? > > Thanks > > From raccoonradio@gmail.com Fri Nov 2 12:32:56 2007 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:32:56 -0400 Subject: Thank goodness we not in Chicago In-Reply-To: References: <4fc429770711020848j13784dd5ye48eb60be1fc22b1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0711020932r2a22755fhae695cc01afc48f1@mail.gmail.com> And of course the Christmas ads started before Halloween, too; TRN's Laura Ingraham show is playing Overstock.com ads with Santa and his elves singing "Ho ho ho! The big big big O! Overstock.com!" to the tune of Jingle Bells even though we still have leaves on the trees. On 11/2/07, Blaine Thompson wrote: > 93.1fm in Indianapolis changed formats to Christmas Music in anticipation > of a format change in early 2008. > > Their format change happened 8 October, and it was at least 75 outside > that day! > > - Blaine > > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Nov 2 12:37:26 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:37:26 -0400 Subject: Daytimer sign-offs References: <006301c81d67$3ffe5a50$6401a8c0@default> Message-ID: <002901c81d6e$a8e66a60$56eda644@SatU205S5044> Nope. WILD can stay at full (critical hours) power (somewhat less than 2 kW) until 5:30 DST tonight and tomorrow. But WILD gets another half hour (in most months) at reduced power, because the sun sets at WBAL roughly 1/2 hour after the sun sets in Boston. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Tomm" To: Cc: "BRI" ; "Don A" Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 12:24 PM Subject: Re: Daytimer sign-offs > And in Connecticut and other parts of Western New England it's > fifteen minutes after that. The 4:15 time is Standard Time. We are > still in Daylight Savings Time until Sunday morning, so until the > time change Boston area daytimers (like WILD) have to shut it down > at 5:15. > > Dave Tomm > "Mike Thomas" > > > On Nov 2, 2007, at 11:59 AM, marklaurence@mac.com wrote: > >> On Friday, November 02, 2007, at 11:49AM, "Don A" >> wrote: >>> I know some of you know this like the back of your hand...but what >>> time do >>> Daytimers in New England have to sign-off in Novermber? >> >> It's not the same everywhere in New England. When I worked in >> Bangor it was 4:15, but >> I seem to remember the Boston stations got an extra 15 minutes. >> >> Mark >> > From rac@gabrielmass.com Fri Nov 2 13:15:36 2007 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:15:36 -0400 Subject: Official Imus Return. In-Reply-To: References: <001901c81cd7$2f64f130$0201a8c0@Family> <472A617B.6080304@gmail.com> Message-ID: <472B5B38.1030909@gabrielmass.com> chuckigo@maine.rr.com wrote: > and i did fail to mention that i mentioned "The I-Man" in my > novel, "Taken Identity." sorry about that omission. > i've also been known to say "that'll be enough, Bernard," even to > people who aren't named Bernard. Mr. Igo failed to disclose that he shares an initial with Don Imus. Readers will want to take that into account when reading any discourse of his regarding the so-called "I-man". --RC From RBello@BelloAssoc.com Fri Nov 2 14:23:58 2007 From: RBello@BelloAssoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 14:23:58 -0400 Subject: Thank goodness we not in Chicago In-Reply-To: <4fc429770711020848j13784dd5ye48eb60be1fc22b1@mail.gmail.co m> References: <4fc429770711020848j13784dd5ye48eb60be1fc22b1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <119402783901@mx05.gis.net> Not looking forward to when WODS flips to Christmas also. Too bad that Oldies is not running HD yet as then there would be another listenable option. At 11:48 AM 11/2/2007, Kevin Vahey wrote: >CBS flipped WCKG this morning to Christmas music. This prompted Clear >Channel's WLIT to do the same a week earlier than planned. > >It's NOVEMBER 2nd > >http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-071101wckg,0,1892233.story?coll=chi_tab01_layout From paul@derrynh.net Fri Nov 2 14:32:40 2007 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:32:40 -0400 Subject: Daytimer sign-offs In-Reply-To: <002901c81d6e$a8e66a60$56eda644@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <006001c81d7e$c0f33bf0$af8de847@YOURF7ED5FB036> That would be in the Winter Only.... I believe in the Summer, even allowing for Baltimore being somewhat west of Boston, Boston has a later sunset due to the higher latitude.. -Paul Hopfgarten -Derry NH (Where 'BAL comes in stronger even in daytime if there's ANY skywave at all) -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@tsornin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Dan.Strassberg Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 12:37 PM To: David Tomm; Mark Laurence Cc: BRI; Don A Subject: Re: Daytimer sign-offs Nope. WILD can stay at full (critical hours) power (somewhat less than 2 kW) until 5:30 DST tonight and tomorrow. But WILD gets another half hour (in most months) at reduced power, because the sun sets at WBAL roughly 1/2 hour after the sun sets in Boston. ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Tomm" To: Cc: "BRI" ; "Don A" Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 12:24 PM Subject: Re: Daytimer sign-offs > And in Connecticut and other parts of Western New England it's > fifteen minutes after that. The 4:15 time is Standard Time. We are > still in Daylight Savings Time until Sunday morning, so until the > time change Boston area daytimers (like WILD) have to shut it down > at 5:15. > > Dave Tomm > "Mike Thomas" > > > On Nov 2, 2007, at 11:59 AM, marklaurence@mac.com wrote: > >> On Friday, November 02, 2007, at 11:49AM, "Don A" >> wrote: >>> I know some of you know this like the back of your hand...but what >>> time do >>> Daytimers in New England have to sign-off in Novermber? >> >> It's not the same everywhere in New England. When I worked in >> Bangor it was 4:15, but >> I seem to remember the Boston stations got an extra 15 minutes. >> >> Mark >> > From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Nov 2 14:57:46 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:57:46 -0400 Subject: Thank goodness we not in Chicago References: <4fc429770711020848j13784dd5ye48eb60be1fc22b1@mail.gmail.com> <119402783901@mx05.gis.net> Message-ID: <000b01c81d82$45911870$69efa644@SatU205S5044> Talking about obsessive personalities, there used to be a guy on this list who, year after year, would obsess about the Christmas music formats ad nauseum for months on end and then, shortly before New Year's, would follow up with long strngs wildly inaccurate predictions for the next year in Boston radio. At the moment, I (thankfully) can't recall his name but somebody will surely remind me. Anyhow, where is he when we absolutely don't need him? ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Bello" To: "Kevin Vahey" ; Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Thank goodness we not in Chicago > > Not looking forward to when WODS flips to Christmas also. > Too bad that Oldies is not running HD yet as then there > would be another listenable option. > > > At 11:48 AM 11/2/2007, Kevin Vahey wrote: >>CBS flipped WCKG this morning to Christmas music. This prompted >>Clear >>Channel's WLIT to do the same a week earlier than planned. >> >>It's NOVEMBER 2nd >> >>http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-071101wckg,0,1892233.story?coll=chi_tab01_layout From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Nov 2 15:21:57 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:21:57 -0500 Subject: Thank goodness we not in Chicago In-Reply-To: <000b01c81d82$45911870$69efa644@SatU205S5044> References: <4fc429770711020848j13784dd5ye48eb60be1fc22b1@mail.gmail.com> <119402783901@mx05.gis.net> <000b01c81d82$45911870$69efa644@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <4fc429770711021221y2626bf49p231898bd83f822c9@mail.gmail.com> Ah yes Joesph Gallent From billohno@gmail.com Fri Nov 2 14:32:24 2007 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 14:32:24 -0400 Subject: Official Imus Return. In-Reply-To: <472B5B38.1030909@gabrielmass.com> References: <001901c81cd7$2f64f130$0201a8c0@Family> <472A617B.6080304@gmail.com> <472B5B38.1030909@gabrielmass.com> Message-ID: <472B6D38.2090905@gmail.com> Richard Chonak wrote: > Mr. Igo failed to disclose that he shares an initial with Don Imus. > Readers will want to take that into account when reading any discourse > of his regarding the so-called "I-man". Oh, and here's another one on Mr. Igo while we pile-on -- His "Taken Identity" work (which is a wicked good read and I am still eager to turn pages each evening versus TV) is a book. Don Imus reads books. Imus should read Chuck's book. But then that would be a conflict-within-a-conflict (feedback loop) and Imus has been under enough scrutiny. Ab-so-freakin-lutely, Mr. President. Before I put a wrapper on this string, we need not remind that Igo breathes air. Imus breathes...oh never mind, no problem there. Bill O'Neill -- I could tell my parents hated me. My bath toys were a toaster and a radio. /Rodney Dangerfield/ From nostaticatall@charter.net Fri Nov 2 15:34:57 2007 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 15:34:57 -0400 Subject: Thank goodness we not in Chicago In-Reply-To: <4fc429770711021221y2626bf49p231898bd83f822c9@mail.gmail.com> References: <4fc429770711020848j13784dd5ye48eb60be1fc22b1@mail.gmail.com> <119402783901@mx05.gis.net> <000b01c81d82$45911870$69efa644@SatU205S5044> <4fc429770711021221y2626bf49p231898bd83f822c9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: He moved on to Radio-Info and racked up a staggering number of posts with them, and then disappeared from that forum as well. The difference now, and even Joe would get this...Christmas formats make money and attract listeners for stations that target adults the rest of the year. WODS gets a noticeable bounce in the Fall book every year and it lingers into the Spring. Without the Christmas music fueled revenue that station enjoys every year, chances are WODS would have flipped to some other format by now, or transitioned to Classic Hits. IMHO, oldies fans in Boston should be thankful for the 6 week diversion into Santa-land every year. Without it, oldies may very well be gone in this town. -Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Nov 2, 2007, at 3:21 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > Ah yes Joesph Gallent > From jjlehmann@comcast.net Fri Nov 2 15:38:20 2007 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 15:38:20 -0400 Subject: Thank goodness we not in Chicago In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <050d01c81d87$ecdc4c30$0201a8c0@DHPP0DB1> > He moved on to Radio-Info and racked up a staggering number of posts > with them, and then disappeared from that forum as well. He's still on radioinsight.com, started by the former owners of radio-info. There's not too many people posting over there though. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From billohno@gmail.com Fri Nov 2 15:43:00 2007 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:43:00 -0400 Subject: Thank goodness we not in Chicago In-Reply-To: <000b01c81d82$45911870$69efa644@SatU205S5044> References: <4fc429770711020848j13784dd5ye48eb60be1fc22b1@mail.gmail.com> <119402783901@mx05.gis.net> <000b01c81d82$45911870$69efa644@SatU205S5044> Message-ID: <472B7DC4.3090707@gmail.com> Dan.Strassberg wrote: > Anyhow, where is > he when we absolutely don't need him? Now, now, Daniel. ;-) -- I could tell my parents hated me. My bath toys were a toaster and a radio. /Rodney Dangerfield/ From w1mnk@tampabay.rr.com Fri Nov 2 16:20:06 2007 From: w1mnk@tampabay.rr.com (Jon Maguire) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:20:06 -0400 Subject: Broadcast Engineering Forums/Boards Message-ID: <472B8676.1060001@tampabay.rr.com> Are there any forums or boards devoted to broadcast engineering? I'd like to see what is going on with the new technology, and jobs etc. I'll retire from IT in the next 5 years, and would very much like to return to my broadcasting roots. There is something inherently beautiful in AM directional arrays, big FM sticks, etc. I can almost smell the ozone :-) Jon Maguire W1MNK Brandon, FL USA (ex WMEX, WCOP AM/FM, WVMT) From scott@fybush.com Fri Nov 2 16:26:27 2007 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:26:27 -0400 Subject: Broadcast Engineering Forums/Boards In-Reply-To: <472B8676.1060001@tampabay.rr.com> References: <472B8676.1060001@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <472B87F3.5070204@fybush.com> Jon Maguire wrote: > Are there any forums or boards devoted to broadcast engineering? I'd > like to see what is going on with the new technology, and jobs etc. I'll > retire from IT in the next 5 years, and would very much like to return > to my broadcasting roots. There is something inherently beautiful in AM > directional arrays, big FM sticks, etc. I can almost smell the ozone > :-) > Jon Maguire W1MNK Brandon, FL USA (ex WMEX, WCOP AM/FM, WVMT) > Absolutely! Barry Mishkind's Broadcast list at radiolists.net is one of the best. Also, radio-tech (radio-tech-request@broadcast.net) is very good. The engineering boards at radio-info.com and radioinsight.com aren't bad, either. s From w1mnk@tampabay.rr.com Fri Nov 2 16:38:19 2007 From: w1mnk@tampabay.rr.com (Jon Maguire) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:38:19 -0400 Subject: Broadcast Engineering Forums/Boards In-Reply-To: <472B87F3.5070204@fybush.com> References: <472B8676.1060001@tampabay.rr.com> <472B87F3.5070204@fybush.com> Message-ID: <472B8ABB.6090706@tampabay.rr.com> Hi Scott, many thanks for the pointers. I have this urge to get current with the latest AM and FM technology. Of course, antennas, phasors, transmission lines, AM and FM transmitter theory hasn't changed, just the implementation. HD and other new technologies look very interesting. I've used DRM in Ham radio, and it's pretty neat. Thanks again. Jon Maguire W1MNK Brandon, FL USA (ex WMEX, WCOP AM/FM, WVMT) Scott Fybush wrote: > Jon Maguire wrote: >> Are there any forums or boards devoted to broadcast engineering? I'd >> like to see what is going on with the new technology, and jobs etc. >> I'll retire from IT in the next 5 years, and would very much like to >> return to my broadcasting roots. There is something inherently >> beautiful in AM directional arrays, big FM sticks, etc. I can almost >> smell the ozone :-) Jon Maguire W1MNK Brandon, FL USA (ex WMEX, >> WCOP AM/FM, WVMT) >> > > Absolutely! Barry Mishkind's Broadcast list at radiolists.net is one > of the best. Also, radio-tech (radio-tech-request@broadcast.net) is > very good. The engineering boards at radio-info.com and > radioinsight.com aren't bad, either. > > s > From hmglaz@worldnet.att.net Fri Nov 2 18:44:19 2007 From: hmglaz@worldnet.att.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:44:19 -0500 Subject: WBZ website up-dates References: <20071101024402.A62F944C034@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com><001701c81ca9$28c7e9a0$a6984c0c@oemcomputer><001001c81ca2$31e610e0$f1ada742@SatU205S5044><000401c81d5b$f41363c0$ef814c0c@oemcomputer> <20071102134212.A5E8644E3A9@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <000801c81da1$e8b9f3e0$2d9c4c0c@oemcomputer> ----- Original Message ----- From: Donna Halper To: Howard Glazer ; Dan.Strassberg ; Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 8:41 AM Subject: Re: WBZ website up-dates > At 10:23 AM 11/2/2007, Howard Glazer wrote: > >Ron Landry died a few years ago, IIRC. Also, my impression from Donna's > >original post is that the tribute page will be for ex-WBZers, living and > >dead. Larry Glick was mentioned; he's still alive, right? > > Yes, we are talking two "pages" on the site. One location is a > tribute to those who passed away (like David Brudnoy, Paul Sullivan, > Carl DeSuze, Streeter Stuart, etc), and another is for those still > alive. The common thread is that the people would have all worked > for WBZ for a long enough period of time to be associated in people's > minds with the station. > I guess that leaves Landry (a couple of years in the mid-'60s, weekday afternoons) out. I think he was at WDRC Hartford longer than he was at WBZ. Young doesn't qualify for her radio work (a couple of years in the mid-'70s, 1-5 a.m. Sunday), but she was one of the original "Evening" hosts on WBZ-TV, so her name might still be associated with the call letters. Howard From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Nov 2 17:59:39 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:59:39 -0400 Subject: WBZ website up-dates In-Reply-To: <000801c81da1$e8b9f3e0$2d9c4c0c@oemcomputer> References: <20071101024402.A62F944C034@relay3.r3.iad.emailsrvr.com> <001701c81ca9$28c7e9a0$a6984c0c@oemcomputer> <001001c81ca2$31e610e0$f1ada742@SatU205S5044> <000401c81d5b$f41363c0$ef814c0c@oemcomputer> <20071102134212.A5E8644E3A9@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> <000801c81da1$e8b9f3e0$2d9c4c0c@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <4fc429770711021459j5a3933f5o7468937e3d072134@mail.gmail.com> Guy Manella has to be included. Gil Santos has been at BZ 41 years. On 11/2/07, Howard Glazer wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Donna Halper > To: Howard Glazer ; Dan.Strassberg > ; > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 8:41 AM > Subject: Re: WBZ website up-dates > > > > At 10:23 AM 11/2/2007, Howard Glazer wrote: > > >Ron Landry died a few years ago, IIRC. Also, my impression from Donna's > > >original post is that the tribute page will be for ex-WBZers, living and > > >dead. Larry Glick was mentioned; he's still alive, right? > > > > Yes, we are talking two "pages" on the site. One location is a > > tribute to those who passed away (like David Brudnoy, Paul Sullivan, > > Carl DeSuze, Streeter Stuart, etc), and another is for those still > > alive. The common thread is that the people would have all worked > > for WBZ for a long enough period of time to be associated in people's > > minds with the station. > > > > I guess that leaves Landry (a couple of years in the mid-'60s, weekday > afternoons) out. I think he was at WDRC Hartford longer than he was at WBZ. > Young doesn't qualify for her radio work (a couple of years in the mid-'70s, > 1-5 a.m. Sunday), but she was one of the original "Evening" hosts on WBZ-TV, > so her name might still be associated with the call letters. > > Howard > > > From m_carney@yahoo.com Fri Nov 2 18:20:53 2007 From: m_carney@yahoo.com (Maureen Carney) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 15:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Thank goodness we not in Chicago Message-ID: <942186.1111.qm@web52604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> And Santa arrived at the Burlington (MA) mall today. The Halloween candy isn't even gone yet. ----- Original Message ---- From: Kevin Vahey To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Sent: Friday, November 2, 2007 11:48:54 AM Subject: Thank goodness we not in Chicago CBS flipped WCKG this morning to Christmas music. This prompted Clear Channel's WLIT to do the same a week earlier than planned. It's NOVEMBER 2nd http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-071101wckg,0,1892233.story?coll=chi_tab01_layout __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From revdoug1@verizon.net Fri Nov 2 20:17:45 2007 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:17:45 -0500 Subject: Thank goodness we not in Chicago References: <4fc429770711020848j13784dd5ye48eb60be1fc22b1@mail.gmail.com> <119402783901@mx05.gis.net> <000b01c81d82$45911870$69efa644@SatU205S5044> <4fc429770711021221y2626bf49p231898bd83f822c9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <023a01c81dae$f5e045d0$6401a8c0@pastor2> David said: <> I'm incredulous. Astonished. Flummoxed. Amazed --- that this format actually draws good ratings. IMHO, Christmas pop music is so ubiquitous this time of year (people can hear the same thing when they go into Walmart or any other store) that after a short time it gets tiresome. Makes me wonder how many people actually LISTEN to music on the radio, or whether it's just background noise while they do something else. Curmudgeonly yours, Doug ---- Original Message ----- From: "David Tomm" To: "Kevin Vahey" Cc: ; "Dan.Strassberg" ; "Ron Bello" Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 2:34 PM Subject: Re: Thank goodness we not in Chicago > He moved on to Radio-Info and racked up a staggering number of posts > with them, and then disappeared from that forum as well. > > The difference now, and even Joe would get this...Christmas formats > make money and attract listeners for stations that target adults the > rest of the year. WODS gets a noticeable bounce in the Fall book every > year and it lingers into the Spring. Without the Christmas music > fueled revenue that station enjoys every year, chances are WODS would > have flipped to some other format by now, or transitioned to Classic > Hits. IMHO, oldies fans in Boston should be thankful for the 6 week > diversion into Santa-land every year. Without it, oldies may very well > be gone in this town. > > -Dave Tomm > "Mike Thomas" > > > On Nov 2, 2007, at 3:21 PM, Kevin Vahey wrote: > > > Ah yes Joesph Gallent > > > From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Nov 2 20:35:14 2007 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 20:35:14 -0400 Subject: Official Imus Return. In-Reply-To: <472B6D38.2090905@gmail.com> References: <001901c81cd7$2f64f130$0201a8c0@Family> <472A617B.6080304@gmail.com> <472B5B38.1030909@gabrielmass.com> <472B6D38.2090905@gmail.com> Message-ID: <973961DAD7074EDEA90E6B275F9D4841@DanBillingsPC> Chuck would be very lucky to get the I-man to talk about his book. From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Nov 2 22:54:01 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan.Strassberg) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 22:54:01 -0400 Subject: Thank goodness we not in Chicago References: <4fc429770711020848j13784dd5ye48eb60be1fc22b1@mail.gmail.com> <119402783901@mx05.gis.net><000b01c81d82$45911870$69efa644@SatU205S5044> <472B7DC4.3090707@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002901c81dc4$cbda3550$8eefa644@SatU205S5044> In all of the years that Gallant made annual predictions here, he probably racked up well over 100 prognostications. Of those, I suspect that one or two actually proved correct. After all, as they say, even a blind pig finds an acorn now and then. It probably is a tad mean to make fun of him; he was responsible for some of the best inadvertant humor we've enjoyed on this list. And until he tired of being the butt of so many jokes, he always seemed game to be the butt of still more. Just for the record and to suitably memorialize his presence here, can anybody recall a Gallant prediction that came true--and the year in which he promised us it would take place? Perhaps a virtual placque is in order. Anybody up for making a virtual contribution? (As the dollar sinks slowly into the sunset, the difference between virtual and real monetary contributions becomes increasingly indistinguishable;>(( ----- Dan Strassberg (dan.strassberg@att.net) eFax 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill O'Neill" To: "Dan.Strassberg" Cc: ; "Kevin Vahey" ; "Ron Bello" Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Re: Thank goodness we not in Chicago > Dan.Strassberg wrote: >> Anyhow, where is >> he when we absolutely don't need him? > Now, now, Daniel. ;-) > -- > I could tell my parents hated me. My bath toys were a toaster and a > radio. > /Rodney Dangerfield/ From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Sat Nov 3 01:50:44 2007 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 01:50:44 -0400 Subject: Official Imus Return. References: <001901c81cd7$2f64f130$0201a8c0@Family> <472A617B.6080304@gmail.com> <472B5B38.1030909@gabrielmass.com> <472B6D38.2090905@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00d201c81ddd$90defd50$6401a8c0@default> Well, he could put it all in one -BIG- sig line...and be done with it. ;-) d ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill O'Neill" To: "Richard Chonak" Cc: "(newsgroup) Boston-Radio-Interest" Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 2:32 PM Subject: Re: Official Imus Return. > Richard Chonak wrote: >> Mr. Igo failed to disclose that he shares an initial with Don Imus. >> Readers will want to take that into account when reading any discourse of >> his regarding the so-called "I-man". > > Oh, and here's another one on Mr. Igo while we pile-on -- His "Taken > Identity" work (which is a wicked good read and I am still eager to turn > pages each evening versus TV) is a book. Don Imus reads books. Imus > should read Chuck's book. But then that would be a > conflict-within-a-conflict (feedback loop) and Imus has been under enough > scrutiny. Ab-so-freakin-lutely, Mr. President. Before I put a wrapper on > this string, we need not remind that Igo breathes air. Imus breathes...oh > never mind, no problem there. > > Bill O'Neill > > -- From markwats@comcast.net Sat Nov 3 10:25:28 2007 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 10:25:28 -0400 Subject: Lowell Spinners Returning To WCAP As Transfer of Ownership Days Away Message-ID: <000d01c81e25$630b5750$738d764c@Mark> According to an article in today's (11/3) Lowell Sun, the Lowell Spinners radio broadcasts will be returning to WCAP next season. WCAP had been the radio home of the Spinners for a few years until last season, when WLLH acquired the games. The Sun article quoted Spinners' officials as saying the new owners of WCAP, Clark Smidt & Sam Poulten approached the team to discuss bring the broadcasts back to the station. Also, the article mentions that WCAP has expanded it's sports coverage by carrying some U Mass Lowell Hockey games, picking up the coverage from U Mass Lowell's WUML (91.5) with Bob Ellis on play by play. WCAP continues to carry Lowell Devils AHL Hockey. The article also mentions that the transfer of control of WCAP from Maurice Cohen to Clark Smidt & Sam Poulten is slated to take place in the coming week. Unfortunetly the Sun article is not on line as of now. However, here's a link to a press release on the Spinners' website announcing the team's return to WCAP: http://www.lowellspinners.com/news_returnWCAP.html Mark Watson Mark Watson From kvahey@gmail.com Sat Nov 3 11:14:36 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 10:14:36 -0500 Subject: Lowell Spinners Returning To WCAP As Transfer of Ownership Days Away In-Reply-To: <000d01c81e25$630b5750$738d764c@Mark> References: <000d01c81e25$630b5750$738d764c@Mark> Message-ID: <4fc429770711030814y41559babl857cfc9bb44c6a95@mail.gmail.com> Smart move by the Spinners. Who knows what kind of format WLLH will have next year. The days of ESPN 890 are numbered...Ordway even hinted yesterday that Felger will be back on the Big Show soon. The last ratings book was a disaster for WAMG as they are not even listed. They had been showing a small number until now which is something WWZN never did. On 11/3/07, Mark Watson wrote: > According to an article in today's (11/3) Lowell Sun, the Lowell Spinners > radio broadcasts will be returning to WCAP next season. WCAP had been the > radio home of the Spinners for a few years until last season, when WLLH > acquired the games. The Sun article quoted Spinners' officials as saying the > new owners of WCAP, Clark Smidt & Sam Poulten approached the team to discuss > bring the broadcasts back to the station. From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Sat Nov 3 11:15:02 2007 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 11:15:02 -0400 Subject: Lowell Spinners Returning To WCAP As Transfer of Ownership Days Away References: <000d01c81e25$630b5750$738d764c@Mark> Message-ID: <007601c81e2c$51401e50$6401a8c0@default> From: "Mark Watson" > The article also mentions that the transfer of control of WCAP from > Maurice Cohen to Clark Smidt & Sam Poulten is slated to take place in the > coming week. Hopefully the change of ownership will mean the end of Michael Savage's show..... From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Sat Nov 3 11:30:41 2007 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 08:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Lowell Spinners Returning To WCAP As Transfer of Ownership Days Away In-Reply-To: <4fc429770711030814y41559babl857cfc9bb44c6a95@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <17467.44453.qm@web58307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Kevin Vahey wrote: > Smart move by the Spinners. Who knows what kind of format WLLH will > have next year. The days of ESPN 890 are numbered...Ordway even > hinted > yesterday that Felger will be back on the Big Show soon. The last > ratings book was a disaster for WAMG as they are not even listed. > They > had been showing a small number until now which is something WWZN > never did. So when does the ESPN mothership come in and (officially) bail out the station? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From hmglaz@worldnet.att.net Sat Nov 3 13:25:38 2007 From: hmglaz@worldnet.att.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 12:25:38 -0500 Subject: Thank goodness we not in Chicago References: <4fc429770711020848j13784dd5ye48eb60be1fc22b1@mail.gmail.com><119402783901@mx05.gis.net> <000b01c81d82$45911870$69efa644@SatU205S5044><4fc429770711021221y2626bf49p231898bd83f822c9@mail.gmail.com> <023a01c81dae$f5e045d0$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <001f01c81e3e$8e136320$a5814c0c@oemcomputer> ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Drown To: David Tomm ; Kevin Vahey Cc: ; Ron Bello ; Dan.Strassberg Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 7:17 PM Subject: Re: Thank goodness we not in Chicago > David said: < stations that target adults the rest of the year.>> > > I'm incredulous. Astonished. Flummoxed. Amazed --- that this format > actually draws good ratings. IMHO, Christmas pop music is so ubiquitous this > time of year (people can hear the same thing when they go into Walmart or > any other store) that after a short time it gets tiresome. Makes me wonder > how many people actually LISTEN to music on the radio, or whether it's just > background noise while they do something else. > It's background noise for MOST of the audience, even a radio nut like me some of the time. I've got XM's '70s channel droning along in the background as I type this, and I can't tell you the last three songs played. Radio hasn't been a foreground medium since Truman's day. Howard From revdoug1@verizon.net Sat Nov 3 15:25:37 2007 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:25:37 -0500 Subject: Thank goodness we not in Chicago References: <4fc429770711020848j13784dd5ye48eb60be1fc22b1@mail.gmail.com><119402783901@mx05.gis.net> <000b01c81d82$45911870$69efa644@SatU205S5044><4fc429770711021221y2626bf49p231898bd83f822c9@mail.gmail.com> <023a01c81dae$f5e045d0$6401a8c0@pastor2> <001f01c81e3e$8e136320$a5814c0c@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <001301c81e4f$50cd4a60$6401a8c0@pastor2> <> By and large, 'tis so, alas. But we really do listen occasionally. My then-86-year-old mother was with me one day on the New Hampshire Turnpike. I was twiddling the dial as WODS was playing "Doo Wah Diddy" by Roy Orbison. I kept on twiddling, and she said, "HEY! DON'T SHUT THAT OFF!!" -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Glazer" To: "Doug Drown" ; "David Tomm" ; "Kevin Vahey" Cc: ; "Ron Bello" ; "Dan.Strassberg" Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:25 PM Subject: Re: Thank goodness we not in Chicago > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Doug Drown > To: David Tomm ; Kevin Vahey > Cc: ; Ron Bello > ; Dan.Strassberg > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 7:17 PM > Subject: Re: Thank goodness we not in Chicago > > > > David said: < > stations that target adults the rest of the year.>> > > > > I'm incredulous. Astonished. Flummoxed. Amazed --- that this format > > actually draws good ratings. IMHO, Christmas pop music is so ubiquitous > this > > time of year (people can hear the same thing when they go into Walmart or > > any other store) that after a short time it gets tiresome. Makes me > wonder > > how many people actually LISTEN to music on the radio, or whether it's > just > > background noise while they do something else. > > > > It's background noise for MOST of the audience, even a radio nut like me > some of the time. I've got XM's '70s channel droning along in the background > as I type this, and I can't tell you the last three songs played. Radio > hasn't been a foreground medium since Truman's day. > > Howard > > From kvahey@gmail.com Fri Nov 2 16:28:19 2007 From: kvahey@gmail.com (Kevin Vahey) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 15:28:19 -0500 Subject: Official Imus Return. In-Reply-To: <472B6D38.2090905@gmail.com> References: <001901c81cd7$2f64f130$0201a8c0@Family> <472A617B.6080304@gmail.com> <472B5B38.1030909@gabrielmass.com> <472B6D38.2090905@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4fc429770711021328hf9a4e78mb9b0cb05e4ea4d87@mail.gmail.com> My copy arrived from Amazon today Chuck is now ranked 1,596,789 in Books On 11/2/07, Bill O'Neill wrote: > > > Oh, and here's another one on Mr. Igo while we pile-on -- His "Taken > Identity" work (which is a wicked good read and I am still eager to turn > pages each evening versus TV) is a book.-- > From hmglaz@worldnet.att.net Sat Nov 3 20:41:46 2007 From: hmglaz@worldnet.att.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:41:46 -0500 Subject: Thank goodness we not in Chicago References: <4fc429770711020848j13784dd5ye48eb60be1fc22b1@mail.gmail.com><119402783901@mx05.gis.net><000b01c81d82$45911870$69efa644@SatU205S5044><4fc429770711021221y2626bf49p231898bd83f822c9@mail.gmail.com><023a01c81dae$f5e045d0$6401a8c0@pastor2><001f01c81e3e$8e136320$a5814c0c@oemcomputer> <001301c81e4f$50cd4a60$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <000401c81e7b$7bf7b0a0$6e8f4c0c@oemcomputer> You mean Manfred Mann? I can't imagine Orbison doing that song, or WODS playing his version. Howard ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Drown To: Howard Glazer ; David Tomm ; Kevin Vahey Cc: ; Ron Bello ; Dan.Strassberg Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 2:25 PM Subject: Re: Thank goodness we not in Chicago > <> > By and large, 'tis so, alas. But we really do listen occasionally. My > then-86-year-old mother was with me one day on the New Hampshire Turnpike. > I was twiddling the dial as WODS was playing "Doo Wah Diddy" by Roy Orbison. > I kept on twiddling, and she said, "HEY! DON'T SHUT THAT OFF!!" > > -Doug > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Howard Glazer" > To: "Doug Drown" ; "David Tomm" > ; "Kevin Vahey" > Cc: ; "Ron Bello" > ; "Dan.Strassberg" > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:25 PM > Subject: Re: Thank goodness we not in Chicago > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Doug Drown > > To: David Tomm ; Kevin Vahey > > Cc: ; Ron Bello > > ; Dan.Strassberg > > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 7:17 PM > > Subject: Re: Thank goodness we not in Chicago > > > > > > > David said: < > > stations that target adults the rest of the year.>> > > > > > > I'm incredulous. Astonished. Flummoxed. Amazed --- that this format > > > actually draws good ratings. IMHO, Christmas pop music is so ubiquitous > > this > > > time of year (people can hear the same thing when they go into Walmart > or > > > any other store) that after a short time it gets tiresome. Makes me > > wonder > > > how many people actually LISTEN to music on the radio, or whether it's > > just > > > background noise while they do something else. > > > > > > > It's background noise for MOST of the audience, even a radio nut like me > > some of the time. I've got XM's '70s channel droning along in the > background > > as I type this, and I can't tell you the last three songs played. Radio > > hasn't been a foreground medium since Truman's day. > > > > Howard > > > > > From revdoug1@verizon.net Sat Nov 3 20:54:42 2007 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:54:42 -0500 Subject: Thank goodness we not in Chicago References: <4fc429770711020848j13784dd5ye48eb60be1fc22b1@mail.gmail.com><119402783901@mx05.gis.net><000b01c81d82$45911870$69efa644@SatU205S5044><4fc429770711021221y2626bf49p231898bd83f822c9@mail.gmail.com><023a01c81dae$f5e045d0$6401a8c0@pastor2><001f01c81e3e$8e136320$a5814c0c@oemcomputer> <001301c81e4f$50cd4a60$6401a8c0@pastor2> <000401c81e7b$7bf7b0a0$6e8f4c0c@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <003401c81e7d$49d46260$6401a8c0@pastor2> My bad. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Glazer" To: "Doug Drown" ; "David Tomm" ; "Kevin Vahey" Cc: ; "Ron Bello" ; "Dan.Strassberg" Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 7:41 PM Subject: Re: Thank goodness we not in Chicago > You mean Manfred Mann? I can't imagine Orbison doing that song, or WODS > playing his version. > > Howard > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Doug Drown > To: Howard Glazer ; David Tomm > ; Kevin Vahey > Cc: ; Ron Bello > ; Dan.Strassberg > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 2:25 PM > Subject: Re: Thank goodness we not in Chicago > > > > <> > > By and large, 'tis so, alas. But we really do listen occasionally. My > > then-86-year-old mother was with me one day on the New Hampshire Turnpike. > > I was twiddling the dial as WODS was playing "Doo Wah Diddy" by Roy > Orbison. > > I kept on twiddling, and she said, "HEY! DON'T SHUT THAT OFF!!" > > > > -Doug > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Howard Glazer" > > To: "Doug Drown" ; "David Tomm" > > ; "Kevin Vahey" > > Cc: ; "Ron Bello" > > ; "Dan.Strassberg" > > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:25 PM > > Subject: Re: Thank goodness we not in Chicago > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Doug Drown > > > To: David Tomm ; Kevin Vahey > > > > Cc: ; Ron Bello > > > ; Dan.Strassberg > > > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 7:17 PM > > > Subject: Re: Thank goodness we not in Chicago > > > > > > > > > > David said: < > > > stations that target adults the rest of the year.>> > > > > > > > > I'm incredulous. Astonished. Flummoxed. Amazed --- that this format > > > > actually draws good ratings. IMHO, Christmas pop music is so > ubiquitous > > > this > > > > time of year (people can hear the same thing when they go into Walmart > > or > > > > any other store) that after a short time it gets tiresome. Makes me > > > wonder > > > > how many people actually LISTEN to music on the radio, or whether it's > > > just > > > > background noise while they do something else. > > > > > > > > > > It's background noise for MOST of the audience, even a radio nut like me > > > some of the time. I've got XM's '70s channel droning along in the > > background > > > as I type this, and I can't tell you the last three songs played. Radio > > > hasn't been a foreground medium since Truman's day. > > > > > > Howard > > > > > > > > > From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Nov 4 16:08:33 2007 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:08:33 -0500 Subject: Fwd: Asleep at the Wheel Live at the Regent Theatre, Arlington, Mass Wed Nov 14 Message-ID: <20071104210900.A5D511F3619@relay5.relay.sat.mlsrvr.com> Leland Stein wrote and asked me this, and alas, I don't know either Michael or Stu. If any of you do, perhaps you can contact Leland directly? His e-mail is Leland wrote-- >Sorry to bother you, but I found you folks in an online thread >discussing classic country and radio in the Boston area, so I >thought you might want to know about this concert (9-Time GRAMMY >winners Asleep at the Wheel) and also maybe suggest on how to get >the word out. I've been trying to call the "Sunday Morning Country >Oldies Show" all morning, but can't get through. Anyone know how to >reach Michael Burns and/or Stu Fink directly, by chance? > >Thanks a bunch, > >Leland Stein >Regent Theatre >www.regenttheatre.com/events > > From raccoonradio@mail.com Mon Nov 5 10:52:27 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:52:27 -0500 Subject: All Access "source": Howie back to WRKO Message-ID: <20071105155228.0E08383BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> http://www.savewrko.com reports that a "reliable source" has told All Access that Howie is giving up his attempt to go to WTKK and will return to WRKO soon. If so we'll see how Imus, etc. plays out. He fought the law, and you know the rest. From billohno@gmail.com Mon Nov 5 11:29:09 2007 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:29:09 -0500 Subject: All Access "source": Howie back to WRKO In-Reply-To: <20071105155228.0E08383BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20071105155228.0E08383BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <472F44D5.1070308@gmail.com> Bob Nelson wrote: > http://www.savewrko.com reports that a "reliable source" has told All Access that Howie is giving up his > attempt to go to WTKK and will return to WRKO soon. You know what they say, when you've got the eight hundred large, you've got the eight hundred large. No tears for Howie. Bill O'Neill -- I could tell my parents hated me. My bath toys were a toaster and a radio. /Rodney Dangerfield/ From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Nov 5 19:19:25 2007 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 19:19:25 -0500 Subject: Imus Message-ID: <9ECD5A4521A14214B3BE982E2530F7FD@DanBillingsPC> Before the blow-up, Imus was on Saga's 970 WZAN Portland. He had been on the station since shortly after it changed to talk in 1993. His new show will come from Citadel -- Saga's major competitor in Portland. Imus does not seem to fit on any of Citadel's Portland properties. WZAN would be a natural landing spot for him in Portland. Will Citadel want him on a competing station? Will Saga want to carry a Citadel property? From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Tue Nov 6 02:42:19 2007 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 02:42:19 -0500 Subject: 'NSH Message-ID: <00eb01c82048$945e95e0$6401a8c0@default> Does anyone know for sure if WNSH is finally up to their new power of 30KW? From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Nov 6 07:52:27 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (dan.strassberg@att.net) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:52:27 +0000 Subject: 'NSH Message-ID: <110620071252.24451.4730638A0008AF2600005F8322230706129B0A02D29B9B0EBF099D0A0D9C9C0E9D9B9CD2020E0B@att.net> Most unlikely--based not only on listening but also on the FCC's usual procedure. Because so many stations potentially receive normally prohibited interference from WNSH's new operation, the usual procedure is to require a complete proof-of-performance together with the tendering of an application for a license to cover. If the proofs look good, the FCC will accept the application for filing and then allow the station to operate with the facilities described in the CP. Until then, the usual custom is to allow the station to use 1/4 of the CP power, which results in a field stength of 1/2 that of the full power. WNSH's situation is also odd because of the very low antenna efficiency, which results from the abysmal soil conductivity at the Tx site together with ground radials that could not be installed in a manner compliant with FCC regulations. Quite possibly, the FCC wants measurements along more than the usual number of radials. Those measurements are, no doubt, complicate! d by th e need to make them at monitor points in Massachusetts Bay. With GPS, locating the points isn't the big deal it once would have been but it is an additional complication. I suspect that full power may still be months away. -- dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 -------------- Original message from "Don A" : -------------- > > Does anyone know for sure if WNSH is finally up to their new power of 30KW? > > > > > > From kwillcox@wnsh.com Tue Nov 6 13:55:15 2007 From: kwillcox@wnsh.com (Keating Willcox) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:55:15 -0500 Subject: WNSH In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200711061855.lA6ItVrS010456@tsornin.bostonradio.org> >WNSH is operating at full power. We have been heard during daytime >as far south as North Dartmouth and Needham, although our signal is >best in Essex County. We continue our all-women's talk format, and I >must admit Dr. Joy Browne is busy unscrambling all my personal >issues. You can hear her live weekdays 12-3. We operate 30 KW non-directional from Beverly MA during daylight hours and go down to...85 watts (think of a single lightbulb) at night We are having some growing pains with our new BE transmitter so there are and will be moments of lower power, and I was taken by surprise as the automation computer remembered the old DST. Otherwise we are open for business and selling both advertising and weekend hour blocks. If you need a smile in the AM, please don't miss Bob and Sheri from 6-9 weekdays. Sincerely, Keating Willcox ~/~ WNSH AM 1570 Beverly Women's Talk Radio By Women - For Women From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Nov 6 16:36:28 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (dan.strassberg@att.net) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:36:28 +0000 Subject: WNSH Message-ID: <110620072136.18563.4730DE5A000D27BC0000488322228869349B0A02D29B9B0EBF099D0A0D9C9C0E9D9B9CD2020E0B@att.net> I am dumbfounded. I knew that the new signal would not be a world-beater, but even with what I learned from your application about the low antenna efficiency, I am truly surprised at how awful the signal is! (I live in Arlington, near the Lexington line, just north of Route 2. I have a few decent AM radios including a Super Radio III. Based on loudness and background noise, I judge WNSH's signal here to be in the neighborhood of 1.5 mV/m.) The signal sounds roughly equivalent to WESX's 600 or so watts. (WESX's power is nominally 1 kW, but it is throttled back because of the very efficient half-wave antenna.) I find it hard to believe that WNSH's signal is equivalent to 15 kW from a normal minimally efficient Class D radiator. That power and efficiency would produce an RMS field of about 1080 mV/m @ 1 km. Are you SURE everything is working correctly? Are you modulating normally (125% on positive peaks, near 0% on negative peaks)? If everything really is working as intended, I could easily believe that WNSH has America's dead worst 30-kW AM signal! Sure, you are serving Essex county, but 30 kW--even from an antenna that is well below Class D minimum efficiency, should produce a much better signal than what I am hearing. -- dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 -------------- Original message from Keating Willcox : -------------- > > >WNSH is operating at full power. > > We operate 30 KW non-directional from Beverly MA during daylight > hours and go down to...85 watts (think of a single lightbulb) at night > From lglavin@mail.com Wed Nov 7 17:04:56 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 17:04:56 -0500 Subject: You Never Know What You'll Hear On WWZN-AM Message-ID: <20071107220456.9E6BC1CE5EE@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> When all-sports WWZN-AM 1510 in Boston was purchased by Blackstrap Broadcasting last spring, their announced intention was to continue an all-sports format with a greater focus on local programming. Cue the end-of-game buzzer: after casually observing the 1510 dial spot, it appears to me that anything BUT sports is likely to be the fare. Recently they added a midnight-to-dawn "religious" show by an Elmer Gantry soundalike, "Brother Stair". Since then, sports programming has been pre-empted in mid-morning by something called "Duke and the Doctor", offering "health and nutrition advice". And in the evening (I'm not sure when the show begins) the always reliable and respected personal advice guru, Roy Masters can be heard. I do believe the former Sporting News Radio outlet in northern New Jersey when this route. WWZN's website indicates they're still committed to broadcasting Harvard and Boston University sports play-by-play. (The website also indicates that WWZN is still the home of North Shore Spirit baseball; um, the "Spirit" gave up the ghost months ago.) I'll bet Harvard and B.U. are especially pleased to be associated with such increasingly bizarre fare! -- Want an e-mail address like mine? Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com! From gary@garysicecream.com Wed Nov 7 20:00:38 2007 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 20:00:38 -0500 Subject: Londonderry Faire Jingle Message-ID: <021001c821a2$c7305070$0200a8c0@Office> Hi All Does anyone have a copy of the Londonderry Faire jingle that WRKO and 98.5-WROR used in the 70's and 80's? I'd like to get a copy for a retrospective I'm working on. Gary Francis From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Nov 7 20:28:29 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 20:28:29 -0500 Subject: You Never Know What You'll Hear On WWZN-AM References: <20071107220456.9E6BC1CE5EE@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <000a01c821a6$b0cbe7a0$46eda644@dstrassberg> WSNR had gone brokered ethnic under Rose City (mostly Russian, I'm told) several years before Davidson bought it. And, of course, anyone who thinks Davidson's business plan consists of anything besides selling each hour or half-hour to the highest bidder who comes along is seriously deluding himself. Also, as we now have already seen, one would be well advised to look at any press release forthcoming from Davidson with a thoroughly jaundiced eye. Still, how else is he going to make money with that turkey? I think he's going to succeed. The question is, though, how many brokered-time AM signals can the market support? WEZE, WROL, WBIX, WESX, WJDA, WRCA, WLYN, WAZN, WWZN, WNTN, WUNR and an excellent chance of WAMG in very short order. That would make an even dozen unless I've missed one or more, which seems highly likely to me. And I'm not even trying to count the pirates, which are on FM as well as AM. Can you say price war? -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 5:04 PM Subject: You Never Know What You'll Hear On WWZN-AM When all-sports WWZN-AM 1510 in Boston was purchased by Blackstrap Broadcasting last spring, their announced intention was to continue an all-sports format with a greater focus on local programming. Cue the end-of-game buzzer: after casually observing the 1510 dial spot, it appears to me that anything BUT sports is likely to be the fare. Recently they added a midnight-to-dawn "religious" show by an Elmer Gantry soundalike, "Brother Stair". Since then, sports programming has been pre-empted in mid-morning by something called "Duke and the Doctor", offering "health and nutrition advice". And in the evening (I'm not sure when the show begins) the always reliable and respected personal advice guru, Roy Masters can be heard. I do believe the former Sporting News Radio outlet in northern New Jersey when this route. WWZN's website indicates they're still committed to broadcasting Harvard and Boston University sports play-by-play. (The website also indicates that WWZN is still the home of North Shore Spirit baseball; um, the "Spirit" gave up the ghost months ago.) I'll bet Harvard and B.U. are especially pleased to be associated with such increasingly bizarre fare! -- Want an e-mail address like mine? Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com! From billohno@gmail.com Wed Nov 7 20:31:39 2007 From: billohno@gmail.com (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:31:39 -0500 Subject: You Never Know What You'll Hear On WWZN-AM In-Reply-To: <000a01c821a6$b0cbe7a0$46eda644@dstrassberg> References: <20071107220456.9E6BC1CE5EE@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> <000a01c821a6$b0cbe7a0$46eda644@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <473266FB.5070605@gmail.com> Dan Strassberg wrote: > Can you say price war? The Russians are coming. Bill O'Neill From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Nov 8 07:24:36 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 07:24:36 -0500 Subject: More Boston-area brokered-time AMs Message-ID: <001901c82202$5f6e4400$a1efa644@dstrassberg> In yesterday's post I mentioned 11 local AMs that currently boker a substantial portion of their air time and a twelfth that is likely to start doing so soon. I also said that I would be surprised if I had not omitted some stations. Here are two more: WSRO and WBNW. So the market already has a baker's dozen of brokered-time AMs with the stong possibility of soon having 14. I haven't tried to figure out what percentage that is of the AM signals that reach at least a portion of the market, but it has to represent more than 1/4 and my guess is that it's a lot more than 1/4. As for Mr Glavin's suggestion (on another list) that 1330 is a good candidate for a format flip from brokered time to something else, I think the suggestion is absurd (though I would hesitate to say impossible). We have a tendency to equate running bokered time with failing stations. In fact, though, brokered time can be VERY lucrative; although brokered-time stations rarely have revenues among the top tier of stations in a market, the percentage of revenues they bring to the bottom line can be extremely high because so many of the costs that "regular" stations incur are not paid by brokered-time stations; those costs are incurred, instead, by the independent producers who lease the time for their programs. I'm not sure of this, but I believe that WRCA has only ONE full time employee on its payroll--GM Stu Fink. The same is likely true of WNTN, where station owner and GM Rob Rudnick is probably the only full-time employee. BTW, today's Tom Taylor on Radio column says that Salem, heretofore an agressive acquirer, especially of AMs, is now willing to discuss spinning off properties to qualified buyers. I doubt that ultra-right-wing Salem would knowingly sell any station to a group interested in flipping it to Progressive talk, but WTTT appears to be to be a station that could do pretty well with a Progressive talk format. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Nov 8 11:50:46 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 11:50:46 -0500 Subject: More Boston-area brokered-time AMs Message-ID: <20071108165046.0FC7783985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> >> WTTT appears to be to be a station that could do pretty well with a Progressive talk format. Prog. talk fans would be welcome to get any station here at this point, but there are night signal issues (and the day signal probably isn't all that much either, depending on where one is). WROL 950 would be a much better target, if that were to be sold instead. From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Nov 8 12:46:40 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 12:46:40 -0500 Subject: More Boston-area brokered-time AMs References: <20071108165046.0FC7783985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <000b01c8222f$593df8a0$cfeca644@dstrassberg> WROL has a phenomenal daytime signal for 5000W but it is a daytimer. When WROL uses its licensed facilities at night, it doesn't cover much of the market. Nevertheless, I suspect that Salem considers WROL a keeper because it makes money, I'm sure, and because Salem owns the transmitter site outright and does not have to pay rent on it. WTTT may not lose money, but I doubt whether it makes much. Yes there are signal issues--particularly on the North Shore at night--but it is a 5 kW full-time signal and it covers a lot of the market day and night. The WTTT/WAZN site is owned by American Tower Systems. The rent may not be exhorbitant but it is not zero. Salem loves to COLLECT rent from stations that diplex from its AM sites, but the company hates paying rent on sites it doesn't own even more than it loves collecting rent on those that it does own. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: "Dan Strassberg" ; "Boston Radio Interest" ; "Donna Halper" Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 11:50 AM Subject: Re: More Boston-area brokered-time AMs >> WTTT appears to be to be a station that could do pretty well with a Progressive talk format. Prog. talk fans would be welcome to get any station here at this point, but there are night signal issues (and the day signal probably isn't all that much either, depending on where one is). WROL 950 would be a much better target, if that were to be sold instead. From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Thu Nov 8 14:20:00 2007 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 14:20:00 -0500 Subject: WNSH Message-ID: <013d01c8223c$86627240$6401a8c0@default> I had the opportunity earlier this week to drive from northern Vermont into Boston and used it as a chance to check out the new daytime signal for WNSH. (It's always interesting to see how a 'proposed' facility upgrade actually turns out!) I started to pick up the signal just south on Manchester at Rts 93/293. The signal strength increased as I got closer to the Mass/NH border...but when I entered Massachusetts, I was surprised at how bad the signal was. Judging from this map: http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WNSH&service=AM&status=C&hours=D ...WNSH should have been a reliable signal once I crossed the border. ANd while the signal was "there"....I could hear some station in the background fighting it out with them. (Whats the next nearest station I would pick up on 1570AM during the day? I don't have my database with me.) Once I crossed over 128/95 the signal was very usable and very reliable (as the map indicates it should be), and stayed that way until I got into downtown Boston traffic. While it appears the intended directional pattern is going where it out to be, I am surprised the signal wasn't as reliable and useful in the areas just outside it's primary contours. Someone on the list said there is an issue with ground/soil conuctivity? I hope there are more conversations with the consulting engineers before this is considered a "done deal". While this no doubt gives WNSH a stronger signal in their hometown/COL....and a stronger signal coverage to the north (Gloucester, etc.)...it doesn't appear to have given them the added area that I imagined from reading the documentation. I think some field test readings should be on the to-do list. From nostaticatall@charter.net Thu Nov 8 15:37:19 2007 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 15:37:19 -0500 Subject: More Boston-area brokered-time AMs In-Reply-To: <20071108165046.0FC7783985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20071108165046.0FC7783985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <70f6aeedcd6447895ffcacc4227996fd@charter.net> There was an interesting item in Tom Taylor's newsletter from Radio-Info this morning. He talks about Salem being interested in selling off some stations in certain markets, while in others exploring the possibility of putting on a Spanish/Christian teaching format. With the traditional Christian talk format on 590 and the conservatalk on 1150, would they toy with the idea of switching WROL to Spanish/Christian? Or, would they sell it off altogether? Even groups like Salem are looking to slim down their station numbers, and I could see them dumping WROL if they got the right price for it and didn't want to air a Spanish language religious format. -Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Nov 8, 2007, at 11:50 AM, Bob Nelson wrote: >>> WTTT appears to be to be a station that could do > pretty well with a Progressive talk format. > > Prog. talk fans would be welcome to get any station here at this > point, but > there are night signal issues (and the day signal probably isn't all > that much either, depending on where one is). WROL 950 would > be a much better target, if that were to be sold instead. > From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Nov 8 15:56:23 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 15:56:23 -0500 Subject: WNSH References: <013d01c8223c$86627240$6401a8c0@default> Message-ID: <001d01c82249$db2bd8e0$cfeca644@dstrassberg> Don: WNSH is nondirectional (day and night). What looks like a directional pattern at radio-locator.com is simply the result of the wldly different ground conductivities that exist side by side here in southeastern New England. Within feet of each other, we have rock, which is about as poor a conductor as can be found in nature (I guess outer space is worse) and salt water, which is very good--not as good as solid copper, but you don't find solid copper in nature; you find ore, which is nowhere near as good a conductor. WNSH originally applied to increase to 50 kW-D DA with a pattern aimed north over Essex County, but Keating had had such rotten luck with directional arrays that he wasn't anxious to go through the experience again and didn't want to spend the money, so he applied to reduce the proposed power to 30 kW-D ND and that's what he built. He says it's on the air now at the full 30 kW. The signal where I live (Arlington Heights near the Lexington line just north of Route 2) is wretched--at least for that kind of power at that distance with a bit of the path either over or nearby salt water. Based on loudness and background noise, I estimate the signal strength to be in the neighborhood of 1.5 mV/m, which is listenable on a good radio but not very strong. For comparison, WCRN's signal here is about 2.1 mV/m by day and a little stronger at night. It's not a good signal either. There is no real chance that a knowledgeable buyer would buy either station for its coverage of Boston. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don A" To: "BRI" ; "Dan Strassberg" Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 2:20 PM Subject: WNSH > I had the opportunity earlier this week to drive from northern Vermont into > Boston and used it as a chance to check out the new daytime signal for WNSH. > (It's always interesting to see how a 'proposed' facility upgrade actually > turns out!) > > I started to pick up the signal just south on Manchester at Rts 93/293. > > The signal strength increased as I got closer to the Mass/NH border...but > when I entered Massachusetts, I was surprised at how bad the signal was. > > Judging from this map: > > http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WNSH&service=AM&status=C&hours=D > > ...WNSH should have been a reliable signal once I crossed the border. > ANd while the signal was "there"....I could hear some station in the > background fighting it out with them. (Whats the next nearest station I > would pick up on 1570AM during the day? I don't have my database with me.) > > Once I crossed over 128/95 the signal was very usable and very reliable (as > the map indicates it should be), and stayed that way until I got into > downtown Boston traffic. > > While it appears the intended directional pattern is going where it out to > be, I am surprised the signal wasn't as reliable and useful in the areas > just outside it's primary contours. > > Someone on the list said there is an issue with ground/soil conuctivity? > > I hope there are more conversations with the consulting engineers before > this is considered a "done deal". > > While this no doubt gives WNSH a stronger signal in their > hometown/COL....and a stronger signal coverage to the north (Gloucester, > etc.)...it doesn't appear to have given them the added area that I imagined > from reading the documentation. > > I think some field test readings should be on the to-do list. > > > > From lglavin@mail.com Thu Nov 8 16:06:21 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 16:06:21 -0500 Subject: WNSH Message-ID: <20071108210621.7281016427E@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Don A" >To: BRI , "Dan Strassberg" >Subject: WNSH >Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 14:20:00 -0500 >I started to pick up the signal just south on Manchester at Rts 93/293. >The signal strength increased as I got closer to the Mass/NH >border...but when I entered Massachusetts, I was surprised at how >bad the signal was. I mentioned a few days ago that WNNW-AM 800's first-octave signal at 1600 has its own IBOC hash that, although milder than on the "home" frequency, still bleeds a little bit up and down the dial. I imagine if WNSH were an X-band station at 1630, the same thing would occur. -- Want an e-mail address like mine? Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com! From jjlehmann@comcast.net Thu Nov 8 20:45:14 2007 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (jjlehmann@comcast.net) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 01:45:14 +0000 Subject: WNSH Message-ID: <110920070145.8239.4733BBAA0008F99A0000202F220073747802020E03080A040606@comcast.net> I can say that WNSH's signal has improved greatly on the south shore, just as the radio-locator map indicates. I used to hear WPEP when they were on the air, but now WNSH is stronger than they ever were. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Don A" > I had the opportunity earlier this week to drive from northern Vermont into > Boston and used it as a chance to check out the new daytime signal for WNSH. > (It's always interesting to see how a 'proposed' facility upgrade actually > turns out!) > > I started to pick up the signal just south on Manchester at Rts 93/293. > > The signal strength increased as I got closer to the Mass/NH border...but > when I entered Massachusetts, I was surprised at how bad the signal was. > > Judging from this map: > > http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WNSH&service=AM&status=C&hours=D > > ...WNSH should have been a reliable signal once I crossed the border. > ANd while the signal was "there"....I could hear some station in the > background fighting it out with them. (Whats the next nearest station I > would pick up on 1570AM during the day? I don't have my database with me.) > > Once I crossed over 128/95 the signal was very usable and very reliable (as > the map indicates it should be), and stayed that way until I got into > downtown Boston traffic. > > While it appears the intended directional pattern is going where it out to > be, I am surprised the signal wasn't as reliable and useful in the areas > just outside it's primary contours. > > Someone on the list said there is an issue with ground/soil conuctivity? > > I hope there are more conversations with the consulting engineers before > this is considered a "done deal". > > While this no doubt gives WNSH a stronger signal in their > hometown/COL....and a stronger signal coverage to the north (Gloucester, > etc.)...it doesn't appear to have given them the added area that I imagined > from reading the documentation. > > I think some field test readings should be on the to-do list. > > > > From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Nov 8 22:45:30 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 22:45:30 -0500 Subject: More Boston-area brokered-time AMs In-Reply-To: <20071108165046.0FC7783985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20071108165046.0FC7783985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <4733918A.12988.3E4037@joe.attorneyross.com> On 8 Nov 2007 at 11:50, Bob Nelson wrote: > >> WTTT appears to be to be a station that could do > pretty well with a Progressive talk format. > > Prog. talk fans would be welcome to get any station here at this > point, but there are night signal issues (and the day signal probably > isn't all that much either, depending on where one is). WROL 950 would > be a much better target, if that were to be sold instead. Does WROL, which used to be a daytimer, have a better night signal than WTTT? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Nov 9 01:20:54 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 01:20:54 -0500 Subject: More Boston-area brokered-time AMs References: <20071108165046.0FC7783985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <4733918A.12988.3E4037@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <002d01c82298$b5ac4b00$46eca644@dstrassberg> Despite being allowed to stay on the air 24/7, WROL is officially STILL a daytimer. It's a Class D AM that (ostenisibly) runs 90W at night and receives no protection from nighttime interference from other stations. With an NIF value of ~37 mV/m. WROL--when it uses its licensed facilities--does not provide an interference-free nighttime signal to any of the City of Boston or to any appreciable portion of the market. Nevertheless, because of its excellent transmitter location, WROL's 5 kW daytime signal is the market's second-best 5-kW daytime AM signal. (The best 5-kW AM signal DAY and NIGHT is that of co-owned WEZE 590. Thanks to its low dial position and good Tx location, WEZE's signal is competitive with those of two of Boston's 50 kW AMs--WRKO and WEEI and is superior to that of WWZN.) WTTT is a full-timer, legally running 5 kW day and night (DA-2). It has an NIF value of 5. mV/m, which is quite low (with NIF, lower is better), and covers much of the market at night. WTTT does have signal problems in some parts of the market at night--particularly on the North Shore. However, despite having a signal that is much maligned by people who mostly don't know what they are talking about, WTTT covers the market fairly well day and night. As I stated in a prior post, if Salem were to divest one of its Boston properties, I believe it would likely be WTTT and not WROL. There are two reasons for this: I'm pretty sure that WROL makes considerably more money than WTTT does (a consequence of WROL's outstanding daytime coverage and bokered-time format, which is popular and easier to make money with). Also Salem owns outright the WROL Tx site in Saugus. The WTTT/WAZN site in Lexington is leased, and though Salem is enamored of charging rent to the many AMs nationwide that diplex from AM sites that it owns, the company hates to pay rent to others for use of sites such as WTTT's, which it does not own. Salem had applied to construct a three-tower nighttime DA for WROL at the Saugus site and to operate with 5 kW-U DA-N. To protect stations to the north, west, and southwest, this rather bizarre proposal would not have sent enough signal over Boston to have delivered an NIF signal to any of the city (not even S Boston or Charlestown, IIRC). Perhaps because the Saugus site may lie in an area designated as a wetland--a place where no construction would be allowed--Salem withdrew its application after it had languished at the FCC for several years. WROL's night signal could, in theory, be upgraded to cover much more of the market at night by changing the Col to, say, Belmont, and moving the nighttime operation to the (leased) site of co-owned WTTT in Lexington. Because the WTTT site already hosts two AMs, the upgrade would be very expensive and because the WTTT site is already shared with WAZN, adding a third station would require new construction--not of towers, but of buildings. In tony, NIMBY Lexington, approvals for such construction could prove impossible to obtain (residences would be OK, but buildings that LOOK like residences from the outside but actually house broadcast equipment would not be), and at the very least would be likely to be tied up in court for most of a decade. And if Salem ultimately prevailed, it would have to pay even more rent to American Tower Systems, which owns the Lexington site. As I stated earlier in this posting, Salem finds making such payments repugnant. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Bob Nelson" Cc: Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 10:45 PM Subject: Re: More Boston-area brokered-time AMs > On 8 Nov 2007 at 11:50, Bob Nelson wrote: > > > >> WTTT appears to be to be a station that could do > > pretty well with a Progressive talk format. > > > > Prog. talk fans would be welcome to get any station here at this > > point, but there are night signal issues (and the day signal probably > > isn't all that much either, depending on where one is). WROL 950 would > > be a much better target, if that were to be sold instead. > > Does WROL, which used to be a daytimer, have a better night signal > than WTTT? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 92 State Street, Suite 700 Fax 617.507.7856 > Boston, MA 02109-2004 http://www.attorneyross.com > > From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Fri Nov 9 01:43:13 2007 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 01:43:13 -0500 Subject: More Boston-area brokered-time AMs Message-ID: <00b601c8229b$ea634a30$6401a8c0@default> > Even groups > like Salem are looking to slim down their station numbers, and I could see > them dumping WROL if they got the right price for it... >From what I understand there have been no takers for WILD 1090AM...which is a somewhat similar signal...and both daytimers. I don't think there is much interest in daytimers anymore.... From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Fri Nov 9 01:52:59 2007 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 01:52:59 -0500 Subject: More Boston-area brokered-time AMs References: <20071108165046.0FC7783985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com><4733918A.12988.3E4037@joe.attorneyross.com> <002d01c82298$b5ac4b00$46eca644@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <00cb01c8229d$82160470$6401a8c0@default> > However, despite having a signal that is much maligned by people who > mostly don't know what they are talking about, WTTT covers the market > fairly > well day and night. Dan, The WTTT signal appears to be pretty reliable both day and night within rt 128. However, in years past, when I spent more time listening in Downtown Boston, I remember hearing some other station at night behind WTTT battling it out. This was within the COL...all over Boston proper. Since WTTT was running a talk format, it was easy to hear during the pauses some other station in the background. Could/would this be CKOC? From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Fri Nov 9 01:57:09 2007 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 01:57:09 -0500 Subject: WNSH References: <110920070145.8239.4733BBAA0008F99A0000202F220073747802020E03080A040606@comcast.net> Message-ID: <00cc01c8229d$c0e14de0$6401a8c0@default> >I can say that WNSH's signal has improved greatly on the south shore, just >as the radio-locator map indicates. I used to hear WPEP when they were on >the air, but now WNSH is stronger than they ever were.< Just curious, what station(s) does WNSH have to protect at night? In Northern New England we can pick up 1570AM out of Montreal both day and night....but they are lower power than they were as CKLM. In Mexico, XERF is (again) listed as 250KW....but non-directional. Is there anyone else needing protection at night on 1570? From wollman@bimajority.org Fri Nov 9 02:25:39 2007 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 02:25:39 -0500 Subject: More Boston-area brokered-time AMs In-Reply-To: <002d01c82298$b5ac4b00$46eca644@dstrassberg> References: <20071108165046.0FC7783985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <4733918A.12988.3E4037@joe.attorneyross.com> <002d01c82298$b5ac4b00$46eca644@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <18228.2931.772861.223072@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > However, despite having a signal that is much maligned by people who > mostly don't know what they are talking about, WTTT covers the > market fairly well day and night. Not the part of the market I live in. In fact, none of the Boston 5-kWers make it here at night usefully. Neither do the 50-kWers, for that matter, with the obvious exception of WBZ. (My best in-market nighttime AM signals are 1200, 1060, 1030, and 830 in that order. 890 has bad, bad off-axis phasing -- hardly surprising given the pattern -- and the problems of 680 and 850 are well-known. For in-market NIF coverage area, 830 is probably third-best overall. WCRN's official 10.289 mV/m NIF is greatly overstated now that CFJR is gone; it should be no more than 6.386 including all remaining contributors.) -GAWollman From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri Nov 9 02:34:06 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 02:34:06 -0500 Subject: WNSH Message-ID: <20071109073406.D10DB83985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Wasn't there a pirate in the Merrimack Valley area at 1570? "Alleged" calls of WKNM? (Note: checked the following site (low power stations) and it lists WKNM 1570 as being from Lowell, "Radio Comercial" but it says "off the air" http://members.aol.com/baconti/bostonLP.htm A search for the calls turned up a page as well listing shows produced by "Boston Catholic Radio" circa 2004, and it lists one show as airing on "WKNM 1570" as if it were a legit station. >> I could hear some station in the background fighting it out with them. (Whats the next nearest station I would pick up on 1570AM during the day? I don't have my database with me.) From wollman@bimajority.org Fri Nov 9 02:35:36 2007 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 02:35:36 -0500 Subject: WNSH In-Reply-To: <00cc01c8229d$c0e14de0$6401a8c0@default> References: <110920070145.8239.4733BBAA0008F99A0000202F220073747802020E03080A040606@comcast.net> <00cc01c8229d$c0e14de0$6401a8c0@default> Message-ID: <18228.3528.374384.453627@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Just curious, what station(s) does WNSH have to protect at night? You can look it up in the exhibit 14 of WNSH's most recent application. In short, the most severe limiting factor is WQEW (which, as a class-A, is protected from skywave interference to its groundwave service area from non-class-A stations). Laval is not a serious limiting factor (although it would be for a directional operation, and XERF does not come into it. -GAWollman From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Nov 9 09:03:02 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:03:02 -0500 Subject: More Boston-area brokered-time AMs References: <20071108165046.0FC7783985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com><4733918A.12988.3E4037@joe.attorneyross.com> <002d01c82298$b5ac4b00$46eca644@dstrassberg> <00cb01c8229d$82160470$6401a8c0@default> Message-ID: <000a01c822d9$480cb8a0$b1eca644@dstrassberg> Conceivably. When CKOC is operating per its license (I have no information that it fails to change patterns at sunset, but this is a common problem with Canadians, of which 1150 used to have many) CKOC allegedly interferes with WTTT (or whatever its calls were when you heard the interference), mostly in areas north of Boston. Some other nearby Canadians on 1150 were in Ottawa, the Gaspe region of QC, and St Johns NS. St Johns moved to 700 decades ago and recently moved to FM. Nevertheless, like nearly all now-dark Canadian AM allocations, 1150 in St Johns remains internationally notified and hence must be protected by US 1150s. However, as long as those allocations remain dark (presumably for eternity, though one never knows), they don't cause interference. When what was then WCOP moved to Lexington around 1940, US AMs were supposed to deliver 25 mV/m to the "central business district" of their CoL. That nebulous term was later redefined as the main Post Office. In Boston, I believe that's the South Postal Annex near South Station. Sometime in the 80s, I think, the requirement was relaxed to 5 mV/m by day over the entire CoL and, by night, the greater of 5 mV/m or the NIF contour over the residences of at least 80% of the population of the CoL. WCOP and its successors never met the 25 mV/m rule. The signal at the South Postal Annex is ~15 mV/m. WCOP received a waiver of this requirement. I believe, however, that WTTT does meet the current 5 mV/m/NIF requirement. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don A" To: "Dan Strassberg" ; "A. Joseph Ross" ; "Bob Nelson" Cc: Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:52 AM Subject: Re: More Boston-area brokered-time AMs > > > However, despite having a signal that is much maligned by people who > > mostly don't know what they are talking about, WTTT covers the market > > fairly > > well day and night. > > Dan, > > The WTTT signal appears to be pretty reliable both day and night within rt > 128. > > However, in years past, when I spent more time listening in Downtown Boston, > I remember hearing some other station at night behind WTTT battling it out. > This was within the COL...all over Boston proper. > > Since WTTT was running a talk format, it was easy to hear during the pauses > some other station in the background. > > Could/would this be CKOC? > From rogerkola@aol.com Fri Nov 9 09:29:18 2007 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:29:18 -0500 Subject: More Boston-area brokered-time AMs References: <20071108165046.0FC7783985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com><4733918A.12988.3E4037@joe.attorneyross.com><002d01c82298$b5ac4b00$46eca644@dstrassberg><00cb01c8229d$82160470$6401a8c0@default> <000a01c822d9$480cb8a0$b1eca644@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <001201c822dc$e9958960$0200a8c0@Tanguray> With the recently reported passing of Otto Miller, has anyone heard the fates of his two brokered stations, WESX and WJDA? The attempted move of WESX to the WLYN tower with a requested change of COL to Saugus (including a waiver from COL coverage) doesn't seem to have taken place and WESX is sounding just as well as it always had (abiet audio deficiencies during some of the "feeds") I was told Marblehead withdrew it's request for funds during town meeting which would have been used to develop the Naugus Head space as a town park. As for recent discussion about it's coverage in relationship to WNSH, I actually observed the "unearthing" and repair of WESX's Ground system 6 months prior to the sale and can report that it has been returned to original specifications after it was discovered lightning and corrosion had opened up the leads to the copper base straps surving as the origin of the radials. Give the tower a paintjob and a lightbulb and it would be Scott could feature it on a cover. Roger WA1KAT From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Nov 9 09:28:18 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:28:18 -0500 Subject: More Boston-area brokered-time AMs References: <20071108165046.0FC7783985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com><4733918A.12988.3E4037@joe.attorneyross.com><002d01c82298$b5ac4b00$46eca644@dstrassberg> <18228.2931.772861.223072@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <001401c822dc$cc2fe6e0$b1eca644@dstrassberg> I said MOST of the market for a reason. MetroWest is an obvious exception not just for 1150 but for ALL Boston AMs except WBZ. And as you noted, that means not just the lower-powered stations but also all of the local 50-kW Class B AMs. You will soon lose WKOX at night. As for WCRN, although CFJR is gone, it (like nearly all now-dark Canadian AMs) remains internationally notified. Although as long as it remains dark, it causes no interference to WCRN, no US AM 830 can apply for a recalculated NIF as long as the international notification remains on the books. As for 890, the phasing to which you referred should have been considerably ameliorated in many locations by the change in the night pattern that accompanied the nighttime power increase to 6 kW. You may live in or near the deep minimum at 14 degrees. I would expect bad phasing there. But there is now a minor lobe between about 12 degrees and 325 degrees. The phasing should be noticeably less in that narrow arc. Prior to the advent of the new night pattern, that area (pretty much due north of the Ashland site, which is just east of Route 126) was in an area of severely suppressed radiation. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" To: "Dan Strassberg" Cc: Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 2:25 AM Subject: Re: More Boston-area brokered-time AMs > < said: > > > However, despite having a signal that is much maligned by people who > > mostly don't know what they are talking about, WTTT covers the > > market fairly well day and night. > > Not the part of the market I live in. In fact, none of the Boston > 5-kWers make it here at night usefully. Neither do the 50-kWers, for > that matter, with the obvious exception of WBZ. (My best in-market > nighttime AM signals are 1200, 1060, 1030, and 830 in that order. 890 > has bad, bad off-axis phasing -- hardly surprising given the pattern > -- and the problems of 680 and 850 are well-known. For in-market NIF > coverage area, 830 is probably third-best overall. WCRN's official > 10.289 mV/m NIF is greatly overstated now that CFJR is gone; it should > be no more than 6.386 including all remaining contributors.) > > -GAWollman > From scott@fybush.com Fri Nov 9 09:49:07 2007 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 09:49:07 -0500 Subject: More Boston-area brokered-time AMs In-Reply-To: <000a01c822d9$480cb8a0$b1eca644@dstrassberg> References: <20071108165046.0FC7783985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com><4733918A.12988.3E4037@joe.attorneyross.com> <002d01c82298$b5ac4b00$46eca644@dstrassberg> <00cb01c8229d$82160470$6401a8c0@default> <000a01c822d9$480cb8a0$b1eca644@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <47347363.2070308@fybush.com> Dan Strassberg wrote: > Conceivably. When CKOC is operating per its license (I have no information > that it fails to change patterns at sunset, but this is a common problem > with Canadians, of which 1150 used to have many) CKOC allegedly interferes > with WTTT (or whatever its calls were when you heard the interference), > mostly in areas north of Boston. Some other nearby Canadians on 1150 were in > Ottawa, the Gaspe region of QC, and St Johns NS. St Johns moved to 700 > decades ago and recently moved to FM. Nevertheless, like nearly all now-dark > Canadian AM allocations, 1150 in St Johns remains internationally notified > and hence must be protected by US 1150s. However, as long as those > allocations remain dark (presumably for eternity, though one never knows), > they don't cause interference. If Dan's entitled to a bit of glee in catching me out in an error, the least I can do is to return a nitpick...the city in New Brunswick (not Nova Scotia!) is "Saint John," always spelled out in full and never with a possessive. The idea, though it obviously doesn't work so well south of the border, is to alleviate confusion with St. John's, Newfoundland, which is always abbreviated and which always does carry the possessive. Dan's basic points are, of course, solid: while WTTT has to protect the defunct Canadians, it's at least not receiving any real-world interference from them. As for CKOC, it sounds from here (100 miles or so away) as though it makes the switch at sunset. s From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Nov 9 10:07:22 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:07:22 -0500 Subject: More Boston-area brokered-time AMs References: <20071108165046.0FC7783985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com><4733918A.12988.3E4037@joe.attorneyross.com><002d01c82298$b5ac4b00$46eca644@dstrassberg><00cb01c8229d$82160470$6401a8c0@default><000a01c822d9$480cb8a0$b1eca644@dstrassberg> <001201c822dc$e9958960$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <002601c822e2$46a79440$b1eca644@dstrassberg> II have my doubts about whether the FCC will OK a WESX move to the WLYN stick. Such a move would put the entire Nahant peninsula in an area of prohibited overlap of 25 mV/m contours between WESX and WMKI. The applicant's claim that this area should be disregarded because it is not within WMKI's contiguous service area seems bogus to me. >From what I've heard, Otto Miller's company (Principal Radio LLC--or something like that) has survived his death and has apparently not lost a step. I don't know the name of the new CEO, but I read somewhere that he is in place at the company. If I'm not mistaken, he is, as was Miller, an alumnus of Arthur Liu's Multicultural Radio Broadcasting Inc (WLYN and WAZN locally). Moreover, I believe that Principal (or is it Principle?) recently closed on its $14M acquisition of a HUGE suburban New York signal, WLIE 540 Islip LI, which the company had been LMAing for its brokered Spanish religious format. Four or five years ago, shortly after WLIE increased to 2500W days, I picked it up clearly on the New York Thruway's Mass Turnpike Connector east of Albany--well over 100 miles north of Islip. The station was also near-local on the Jersey Turnpike just outside of Trenton NJ. I've also picked up WLIE weakly, while parked near Marlborough. Phenomenal daytime signal AND WLIE holds a CP for a further daytime power increase to 4500W. That would require moving a tower and returning to Class D status. Not sure it's a great idea. As for WNSH, if WESX is staying put in Marblehead, WNSH should move to the WESX site. Equal coverage with a 75% reduction in the power bill. Of course, there would be a rental fee for use of the tower, so maybe the 75% reduction overstates the savings. It should not be a big deal to skirt the top of the WESX tower to electrically shorten it to ~190 degrees at 1570 (WESX, though nominally 1 kW, actually runs only about 600W, so it could increase its power to compensate for the modest loss in efficiency.) The result would be that WNSH, running less than 7500W could equal the coverage it gets from 30-kW at Endicott College and might be able to significantly increase its night power--maybe to something close to the 227W that WPEP used to run. With the huge increase in antenna efficiency, the increase in night coverage ought to be be quite noticeable. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Kolakowski" To: Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:29 AM Subject: Re: More Boston-area brokered-time AMs > With the recently reported passing of Otto Miller, has anyone heard the > fates of his two brokered stations, WESX and WJDA? > > The attempted move of WESX to the WLYN tower with a requested change of COL > to Saugus (including a waiver from COL coverage) doesn't seem to have taken > place and WESX is sounding just as well as it always had (abiet audio > deficiencies during some of the "feeds") > > I was told Marblehead withdrew it's request for funds during town meeting > which would have been used to develop the Naugus Head space as a town park. > > As for recent discussion about it's coverage in relationship to WNSH, I > actually observed the "unearthing" and repair of WESX's Ground system 6 > months prior to the sale and can report that it has been returned to > original specifications after it was discovered lightning and corrosion had > opened up the leads to the copper base straps surving as the origin of the > radials. > > Give the tower a paintjob and a lightbulb and it would be Scott could > feature it on a cover. > > Roger > WA1KAT > From wollman@bimajority.org Fri Nov 9 11:41:30 2007 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 11:41:30 -0500 Subject: WCRN In-Reply-To: <001401c822dc$cc2fe6e0$b1eca644@dstrassberg> References: <20071108165046.0FC7783985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <4733918A.12988.3E4037@joe.attorneyross.com> <002d01c82298$b5ac4b00$46eca644@dstrassberg> <18228.2931.772861.223072@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <001401c822dc$cc2fe6e0$b1eca644@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <18228.36282.975413.12411@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > notified. Although as long as it remains dark, it causes no interference to > WCRN, no US AM 830 can apply for a recalculated NIF as long as the > international notification remains on the books. Is WCRN actually better off with CFJR gone but still officially notified than it would be with CFJR off the books? -GAWollman From dan.strassberg@att.net Fri Nov 9 12:00:18 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 12:00:18 -0500 Subject: WCRN References: <20071108165046.0FC7783985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com><4733918A.12988.3E4037@joe.attorneyross.com><002d01c82298$b5ac4b00$46eca644@dstrassberg><18228.2931.772861.223072@hergotha.csail.mit.edu><001401c822dc$cc2fe6e0$b1eca644@dstrassberg> <18228.36282.975413.12411@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <002701c822f2$091bb560$39ada742@dstrassberg> As I see it, the advantage that WCRN would derive from recalculation, if it were permitted in this case, is that it would prevent upgrades by other stations from increasing WCRN's NIF to more than the lower figure that you calculated. Suppose WNYC wanted a night power increase. (I'm sure they want one but that's another thread.) Because first-adjacents now figure into NIF calculations, a meaningful increase might not be possible with the lower NIF but might be possiible with the 10.289 mV/m NIF. Obviously, the absence of CFJR benefits WCRN (and probably WEEU). But the inability to make the benefit official reduces the value of the benefit--especially if the owner wanted to "monetize" the benefit by selling the station. Ed note: I have absolutely no indication that the Carberry's have any interest in selling WCRN. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" To: "Dan Strassberg" Cc: Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 11:41 AM Subject: Re: WCRN > < said: > > > notified. Although as long as it remains dark, it causes no interference to > > WCRN, no US AM 830 can apply for a recalculated NIF as long as the > > international notification remains on the books. > > Is WCRN actually better off with CFJR gone but still officially > notified than it would be with CFJR off the books? > > -GAWollman From lglavin@mail.com Fri Nov 9 13:26:57 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:26:57 -0500 Subject: More Boston-area brokered-time AMs Message-ID: <20071109182657.BF03B1CE5EE@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Don A" >To: "Dan Strassberg" , "A. Joseph Ross" , "Bob Nelson" >Subject: Re: More Boston-area brokered-time AMs >Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 01:52:59 -0500 > However, despite having a signal that is much maligned by people who > mostly don't know what they are talking about, WTTT covers the market fairly > well day and night. >Dan, >The WTTT signal appears to be pretty reliable both day and night >within rt 128. >However, in years past, when I spent more time listening in >Downtown Boston, I remember hearing some other station at night >behind WTTT battling it out. This was within the COL...all over >Boston proper. >Since WTTT was running a talk format, it was easy to hear during the pauses some other station in the background. >Could/would this be CKOC? On those occasions when I've been driving in Boston's downtown area with my radio tuned to 1150 AM, I've gotten equal doses of WTTT and WBZ! (Time to get a better radio?) One other source of 1150 interference I've noticed outside of Boston proper is WRUN-AM, rebroadcasting Albany's WAMC-FM. -- Want an e-mail address like mine? Get a free e-mail account today at www.mail.com! From donald_astelle@yahoo.com Sun Nov 11 03:20:53 2007 From: donald_astelle@yahoo.com (Don A) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:20:53 -0500 Subject: WMEX Collectors item..... Message-ID: <025501c8243c$58aed670$6401a8c0@default> This was on the radio-info board....if anyone's interested... Title: WMEX Collectors item.... Post on November 11, 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There is something on Ebay that radio buffs and Bostonians might be interested in. There was a time when Top 40 and oldies radio station would put together a compilation collectors LP. WMEX are legendary call letters in New England and elsewhere for the station that brought rock and roll to Boston. This collectors item is called: "the WMEX radio "Cruisin' Collection" Oldies Compilation LP" http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=330186083730&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=014 (A long URL...you might have to cut/paste if it doesn't click thru...or enter the Item # below.) Item number: 330186083730 There is a greeting on the back from the WMEX program director. The disk is in great condition. There are some great jingles included on the album as well. Take a look...or pass it along to someone you think might be interested. From hykker@wildblue.net Sun Nov 11 07:36:24 2007 From: hykker@wildblue.net (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:36:24 -0500 Subject: WMEX Collectors item..... In-Reply-To: <025501c8243c$58aed670$6401a8c0@default> References: <025501c8243c$58aed670$6401a8c0@default> Message-ID: <20071111123621.411615643DD@mail3.wildblue.net> At 03:20 AM 11/11/2007, Don A wrote: >This was on the radio-info board....if anyone's interested... > > >This collectors item is called: > >"the WMEX radio "Cruisin' Collection" Oldies Compilation LP" I have this album. This was not from the original WMEX, but from the short-lived 1150 reincarnation, circa 1985. From radiotest@cox.net Sun Nov 11 08:28:50 2007 From: radiotest@cox.net (Dale H. Cook) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:28:50 -0500 Subject: WMEX Collectors item..... In-Reply-To: <20071111123621.411615643DD@mail3.wildblue.net> References: <025501c8243c$58aed670$6401a8c0@default> <20071111123621.411615643DD@mail3.wildblue.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071111081208.026c8c50@cox.net> At 07:36 AM 11/11/2007, SteveOrdinetz wrote: >I have this album. This was not from the original WMEX, but from >the short-lived 1150 reincarnation, circa 1985. There was also a set of Cruisin' albums released in the early '70s, from which this appears to have ripped off its title. These were not released by the stations, but by Increase Records (LPs distributed by Chess). There was one for each year from 1955 to 1970 and each recreated the sound of one Top 40 station in that year. Each had music of that year along with a top DJ, complete with the jingles, spots and other elements heard on his station in that year. The albums were newly created in the studio (not air checks) but included original elements such as tapes of original spots. See: http://leemichaelwithers.tripod.com/cruisin.htm Cruisin' 1961 starred Arnie Ginsburg, who showed up at the recording studio with a suitcase full of the noisemakers that he still had, and that he had used on Night Train. One of the highlights was Arnie's Adventure Car Hop spot. I highly recommend this disk for WMEX fans. The Cruisin' LPs were re-issued on CD in the '90s. The album on eBay is not the Cruisin' 1961 LP, but is, as Steve noted, from the later incarnation of the station. Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZI / WZZU / WLNI / WLEQ http://members.cox.net/dalehcook/starcity.shtml From markwa1ion@aol.com Mon Nov 12 12:50:53 2007 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (markwa1ion@aol.com) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:50:53 -0500 Subject: WNSH Message-ID: <8C9F36BB44DD75B-6A0-1675@mblk-d25.sysops.aol.com> I was at a get-together in Yarmouth on the Cape last Saturday and noted WNSH-1570 with an absolutely huge signal, much stronger than any other metro-Boston station above 1030 kHz, even 50 kW WWZN. I think that only 590, 680, 950, and 1030 were stronger. 1360 was the only higher end of the dial station in a somewhat-similar signal class, not including Cape / nominal Cape stations 1170, 1240, and 1390. 1230's fairly strong too, but messed up by 1240 IBOC. Mark Connelly - Billerica, MA Dan Strassberg wrote: I am dumbfounded. I knew that the new signal would not be a world-beater, but even with what I learned from your application about the low antenna efficiency, I am truly surprised at how awful the signal is! (I live in Arlington, near the Lexington line, just north of Route 2. I have a few decent AM radios including a Super Radio III. Based on loudness and background noise, I judge WNSH's signal here to be in the neighborhood of 1.5 mV/m.) The signal sounds roughly equivalent to WESX's 600 or so watts. (WESX's power is nominally 1 kW, but it is throttled back because of the very efficient half-wave antenna.) ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com From raccoonradio@mail.com Mon Nov 12 13:41:20 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:41:20 -0500 Subject: WNSH Message-ID: <20071112184121.0B69C83