From me@billoneill.us Tue May 1 15:23:09 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 15:23:09 -0400 Subject: 92.1 Champlain Valley Message-ID: <4637939D.3010308@billoneill.us> Just flipped - "92.1 Your True Oldies Channel." Running Scott Shannon from the bird now. Formerly Kiss-FM. (Good riddance!) Bill O'Neill From me@billoneill.us Tue May 1 15:35:20 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 15:35:20 -0400 Subject: 92.1 Oldies Message-ID: <46379678.4000407@billoneill.us> Quick thought on this - Hall Comm. has new competition on it's oldies front (WKOL) as well as country (WTNN Bristol). The difference on the oldies side is it doesn't look like there'll be local presence and WKOL/Hall has a strong local presence and commitment. Jury is still out on WTNN. Bill O'Neill From me@billoneill.us Tue May 1 17:19:32 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 17:19:32 -0400 Subject: 1320 Randolph Message-ID: <4637AEE4.1090308@billoneill.us> "The Zone" WXZO (96.7 Plattsburg)//WEAV (960 Burlington) saying it has added WTSJ (1320 Randolph) to the simulcast. The Randolph 1kW had been simulcasting WTSL in the Upper Valley. Prior to that 1320 simulcast 1380 in Rutland. Listeners to the 1320 signal will lose the morning show but most of the remainder of the day is the same with WXZO (Glenn Beck, Rush) and will gain Hannity. 1320 does a decent job for a kW. The Greens in that neck of the woods are unforgiving to FM signals that lack any appreciable HAAT, but AMers like WDEV (550 Waterbury) and WTSJ (whose calls days are likely numbered) roll up and over "the gaps" with ease. I drive a LOT throughout Vermont and must say that AMers have bailed me out many a time when trying to keep up with a talker conversation, sporting event, etc. Bill O'Neill From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Wed May 2 10:08:11 2007 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 07:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: 92.1 Champlain Valley In-Reply-To: <4637939D.3010308@billoneill.us> Message-ID: <205392.6599.qm@web56810.mail.re3.yahoo.com> On Tue, 01 May 2007 15:23:09 Bill O'Neill wrote: > Just flipped - "92.1 Your True Oldies Channel." > Running Scott Shannon > from the bird now. Formerly Kiss-FM. (Good > riddance!) Wow, now maybe that signal will actually get some listeners! I never understood, and still don't understand why they didn't put Kiss-FM on 96.7, which is a much more centrally located signal for the market, and would've actually given that format at least a chance at surviving. I can't imagine that WXZO is doing that well ratingswise (how many FM talkers, in the big picture, do), and 92.1 is so far south that its inaudible anywhere north of Burlington itself (if its even strong in Burlington), and almost completely inaudible in Plattsbrugh. 92.1 was not exactly a frequency tailord to a CHR/Urban format, but with 50s-60s oldies I cans ee them actually getting some listeners. Matt Osborne Schenectady, NY __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed May 2 11:33:24 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 10:33:24 -0500 Subject: Herald: Finneran bombs in ratings Message-ID: <20070502153324.8A4D783985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> "He may have had a captive audience on Beacon Hill, but thousands of talk show listeners are fleeing as ratings show ex-House Speaker Tom Finneran bombing in his new radio career. With the disgraced pol behind the microphone, WRKO lost nearly one-third of its morning drive audience among the key category of 25- to 54-year-old adults this winter compared to the same time last year, according to Arbitron winter ratings figures obtained by the Herald." http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=197979 Not sure exactly how much Entercom paid for Finneran or how long the contract runs for, but not good news for The Talk/Sox Station. Howie Carr (beating Severin in the ratings) and "Big Papi Strikes Again!" might help make up for it. From scott@fybush.com Wed May 2 12:46:28 2007 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 12:46:28 -0400 Subject: The Jibguy's ratings Message-ID: <4638C064.8020802@fybush.com> Anyone else notice the 12+ numbers that just came out? Our good friend Mr. Bittner didn't just crack a 1-share...he apparently has more listeners 12+ than WFNX or WXRV, and is gaining on WBOS! I wonder if this isn't the most impressive ratings performance by a one-man station in history? s From me@billoneill.us Wed May 2 13:04:35 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 13:04:35 -0400 Subject: The Jibguy's ratings In-Reply-To: <4638C064.8020802@fybush.com> References: <4638C064.8020802@fybush.com> Message-ID: <4638C4A3.5000004@billoneill.us> Scott Fybush wrote: > I wonder if this isn't the most impressive ratings performance by a > one-man station in history? > > s It's clear that Bob needs to make his operation more bloated. Hire consultants. Golf with ad buyers. A big-boy liner voice. Call Dallas for a box of jingles. How about a performance sound stage? Bill O'Neill From francini@mac.com Wed May 2 13:48:46 2007 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 13:48:46 -0400 Subject: Herald: Finneran bombs in ratings In-Reply-To: <20070502153324.8A4D783985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070502153324.8A4D783985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <202E05E5-17DB-4C16-8B95-5A2F1ECF6B7E@mac.com> Unfortunately, the article doesn't say anything about where the 25- to-54 audience has gone *to*. Have they gone to WEEI, with "Fatty and the Forehead" holding down the morning court, or somewhere else? j On 2 May 2007, at 11:33, Bob Nelson wrote: > "He may have had a captive audience on Beacon Hill, but thousands > of talk show listeners are fleeing as ratings show ex-House Speaker > Tom Finneran bombing in his new radio career. With the disgraced > pol behind the microphone, WRKO lost nearly one-third of its > morning drive audience among the key category of 25- to 54-year-old > adults this winter compared to the same time last year, according > to Arbitron winter ratings figures obtained by the Herald." > > http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=197979 > > Not sure exactly how much Entercom paid for Finneran or how long > the contract runs for, but not good news for The Talk/Sox > Station. Howie Carr (beating Severin in the ratings) and "Big Papi > Strikes Again!" might help make up for it. > From lglavin@mail.com Wed May 2 14:10:11 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 13:10:11 -0500 Subject: The Jibguy's ratings Message-ID: <20070502181011.A4A601F50B2@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Scott Fybush" >To: BRI >Subject: The Jibguy's ratings >Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 12:46:28 -0400 >Anyone else notice the 12+ numbers that just came out? Our good >friend Mr. Bittner didn't just crack a 1-share...he apparently has >more listeners 12+ than WFNX or WXRV, and is gaining on WBOS! >I wonder if this isn't the most impressive ratings performance by a >one-man station in history? >s It was a good rating period for stations with a COL of Cambridge; Hahvud's W-H-RB also made an appearance, at least on radioandrecords.com. = Replace with Metal Find Contractors. View Photos. Talk to Experts and More. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=db4f3b791c73563c5f038274f856a1c4 From rickajho@rcn.com Wed May 2 14:45:47 2007 From: rickajho@rcn.com (Rick) Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 14:45:47 -0400 Subject: The Jibguy's ratings References: <4638C064.8020802@fybush.com> Message-ID: <4638DC5B.F02650A6@rcn.com> Scott Fybush wrote: > > Anyone else notice the 12+ numbers that just came out? Our good friend > Mr. Bittner didn't just crack a 1-share...he apparently has more > listeners 12+ than WFNX or WXRV, and is gaining on WBOS! > > I wonder if this isn't the most impressive ratings performance by a > one-man station in history? > > s I think it's great. 8-) Bob got all the money he was asking to keep the station format as-is, he got enough donations well in advance of his deadline, and it sounds like in his on air annoucement about it that that even surprised him. Apparently all the computer modeling and testing stations do to attempt to gain even a smidgen more in listener share don't always get it right. Hell, they use the same testing dynamics, and they all come out sounding the same. WJIB certainly stands out against all the other stuff that's out there. As an aside - or maybe not - I noticed over the last several weeks that WJIB is playing what seems to be a broader selection of music with a lot less repeats. I don't know if that's an accident of the problem he announced about one of his "music computers" being out for repair, or if he's actually been adding more songs into the selection mix. Things don't sound as stale as they used to. Rick From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed May 2 17:23:56 2007 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 17:23:56 -0400 Subject: The Jibguy's ratings In-Reply-To: <4638C064.8020802@fybush.com> References: <4638C064.8020802@fybush.com> Message-ID: <20070502212424.52AAF44CB3A@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> At 12:46 PM 5/2/2007, Scott Fybush wrote: >Anyone else notice the 12+ numbers that just came out? Our good >friend Mr. Bittner didn't just crack a 1-share...he apparently has >more listeners 12+ than WFNX or WXRV, and is gaining on WBOS! And did I miss the numbers of WKOX/WXKS? Didn't they do better with progressive talk than they are doing with Spanish? 8-) From m1bz@hotmail.com Wed May 2 17:39:23 2007 From: m1bz@hotmail.com (Michael E) Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 17:39:23 -0400 Subject: The Jibguy's ratings In-Reply-To: <20070502212424.52AAF44CB3A@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: From: Donna Halper >And did I miss the numbers of WKOX/WXKS? Didn't they do better with >progressive talk than they are doing with Spanish? 8-) > I think it's sound quality. Spanish-speaking listeners know how bad AM sounds, compared to FM. How long til a Boston FM is either bought by a Hispanic owner, or one of the conglomerates makes one of the stations Spanish full-time? _________________________________________________________________ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglineapril07 From nostaticatall@charter.net Wed May 2 19:00:50 2007 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 19:00:50 -0400 Subject: Herald: Finneran bombs in ratings In-Reply-To: <202E05E5-17DB-4C16-8B95-5A2F1ECF6B7E@mac.com> References: <20070502153324.8A4D783985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <202E05E5-17DB-4C16-8B95-5A2F1ECF6B7E@mac.com> Message-ID: Entercom can afford to wait it out. I'm sure they figured some of the older, ultra-conservative listeners would defect, and probably figured Dennis and Callahan at WEEI would be the landing spot for that demo. With WTKK's morning show in flux as well, they can give Finneran the time to find the younger, more centrist audience they were looking for in mornings. If anything, Finneran could wind up being the beneficiary of the Imus firing. The I-man tended to be a more moderate conservative, which is closer to Finneran's politics than say Michael Graham's or Jay Severin's. Those listeners may check out WRKO this book. Besides, you can't make a determination this early, especially in talk radio. Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On May 2, 2007, at 1:48 PM, John Francini wrote: > Unfortunately, the article doesn't say anything about where the > 25-to-54 audience has gone *to*. Have they gone to WEEI, with "Fatty > and the Forehead" holding down the morning court, or somewhere else? > > j > > On 2 May 2007, at 11:33, Bob Nelson wrote: > >> "He may have had a captive audience on Beacon Hill, but thousands of >> talk show listeners are fleeing as ratings show ex-House Speaker Tom >> Finneran bombing in his new radio career. With the disgraced pol >> behind the microphone, WRKO lost nearly one-third of its morning >> drive audience among the key category of 25- to 54-year-old adults >> this winter compared to the same time last year, according to >> Arbitron winter ratings figures obtained by the Herald." >> >> http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=197979 >> >> Not sure exactly how much Entercom paid for Finneran or how long the >> contract runs for, but not good news for The Talk/Sox >> Station. Howie Carr (beating Severin in the ratings) and "Big Papi >> Strikes Again!" might help make up for it. >> > From radiotony@comcast.net Wed May 2 19:19:24 2007 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 19:19:24 -0400 Subject: Herald: Finneran bombs in ratings In-Reply-To: References: <20070502153324.8A4D783985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <202E05E5-17DB-4C16-8B95-5A2F1ECF6B7E@mac.com> Message-ID: <002c01c78d10$53b40b90$fb1c22b0$@net> I've listened to the show twice, because I was down in Massachusetts and driving in my car, and I have to say that it's not very good. However, it does have potential. The first time I heard the show, Warren Tolman was guest co-hosting with Finneran and the show was a good political roundtable type of show and I listened to it the entire time I was in the car. It was like the old days. I like Warren, he is a good guy. And I also found it interesting that these former political foes would be able to do some pretty good, old-styled, talk radio. The other time I listened was on Earth Day, where Finneran was going off on some silly thing Sheryl Crow said about toilet paper use. He also went off on Hollywood liberals and it was just totally, totally lame, and that is being kind. It was struggling for things to say and going off on environmentalists not knowing what he was saying at all. It was pretty embarrassing. Best, Tony Schinella From rogerkola@aol.com Wed May 2 20:26:17 2007 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 21:26:17 -0300 Subject: Fw: [GEMOTO:1518] HD Radio (cheap!) Message-ID: <002601c78d19$aacfea80$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Last try... Not a recommendation or a solicitation...you see what I see... Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick J Zach To: gemoto@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 2:37 PM Subject: [GEMOTO:1518] HD Radio (cheap!) HD Radio (cheap!) http://www.radiosophy.com/products/hd100.html From radiotony@comcast.net Wed May 2 21:40:36 2007 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 21:40:36 -0400 Subject: [GEMOTO:1518] HD Radio (cheap!) In-Reply-To: <002601c78d19$aacfea80$0200a8c0@Tanguray> References: <002601c78d19$aacfea80$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <004e01c78d24$0cb31330$26193990$@net> Does anyone know if any of the stations broadcasting in HD in New Hampshire are doing anything interesting with the HD signals? Radio is so bad in N.H. right now, why bother? Best, Tony Schinella -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Roger Kolakowski Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 8:26 PM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Subject: Fw: [GEMOTO:1518] HD Radio (cheap!) Last try... Not a recommendation or a solicitation...you see what I see... Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick J Zach To: gemoto@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 2:37 PM Subject: [GEMOTO:1518] HD Radio (cheap!) HD Radio (cheap!) http://www.radiosophy.com/products/hd100.html From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Wed May 2 21:00:35 2007 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 21:00:35 -0400 Subject: Herald: Finneran bombs in ratings References: <20070502153324.8A4D783985@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <202E05E5-17DB-4C16-8B95-5A2F1ECF6B7E@mac.com> <002c01c78d10$53b40b90$fb1c22b0$@net> Message-ID: <001001c78d1e$770cc790$0201a8c0@Family> in general, it saddens me, and i'm sure others like me, that a major market morning show - what one might consider a professional goal - is filled with the flavor of the week. now, granted, i'm not a talk show host. like many, i have opinions and i can listen well, but i'm still having fun playing the hits and, once in a while, crackin' wise. but, there are those who have for years labored at a target format, and are more than likely quite capable to do better than swell with a bit of support and/or marketing, coupled with a management team possessed of the mindset that consistency builds ratings - that a new show or talent really needs more than 2 books to do well. i think of our colleague, Bill O. well read, quick of wit and pretty dang insightful. likewise Auntie Donna, who at one time programmed the mighty 680. now 6-8-Oh has become an on-air cesspool. i have no other way to put it. as talented as Howie is, he is filled with either an abundance of hatred or envy - i'm not sure which. if he were neither of the aforementioned things, he wouldn't have spent airtime talking with a "network audience" in such a negative manner about his co-workers. for lack of a better term, Rush and Finneran are that - co-workers. i could never, EVER imagine blowing up a station's overall positioning, on-air, in such a way. but yet, it happens every single day on that station. if wrko were considered a "family," they'd need some serious counselling. suggestion to the wrko team - slap howie up-side the head and take him down a peg. he ain't that good. and he's a radio carpet-bagger, as far as i'm concerned. he'll kiss off radio quicker than he can hit the "book" cash-register as soon as MSNBC or some other visual outlet gives him a shot. Howie is a great writer. probably a nice guy and a good dad. he is not a great broadcaster (my opinion). Rush is Rush - the station does well with his show, and from what i've never heard from Rush, he doesn't really acknowledge the programming on before or after his. Mr.Finneran is not a radio host. maybe some day. but, like the majority who came before him - go to a small market and get some experience. i am not, nor have i ever been, a fan of johnny-come-lately's to radio. not to say that some of the interlopers into what i consider a labor of love more than a means to an end are not qualified. and to those individuals, i will suffer the sin of personal envy. just my .02, adjusted for inflation - - Chuck From scott@fybush.com Wed May 2 22:33:58 2007 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 22:33:58 -0400 Subject: Wearing yet another of my many hats (Fybush on TV...again...) Message-ID: <46394A16.2090400@fybush.com> In addition to being a fill-in newsperson on WXXI public radio here in Rochester, I occasionally get dragged in front of the cameras at our sister station, WXXI-TV...and those of you within range of NH Public TV or Schenectady's WMHT can see one of those appearances tomorrow. This week, I was the fill-in anchor on Assignment: The World, a neat little 15-minute show that WXXI has produced for classroom use for 48 years (going back to the days before we even had a broadcast license, when the "Rochester Area Educational Television Association" produced programming that the two commercial stations in town carried.) It's a weekly show that uses current news events to educate students in elementary and middle school about geography and social studies, and I was happy to be a part of it, especially since I grew up watching the program way back when. You can see it Thursday afternoon at either 4 or 4:15 PM on NHPTV (I think they show last week's show first, then the new episode), Thursday at 12:30 PM on WMHT, and here's a list of other airings in North Dakota, Grand Rapids and other garden spots around our great nation: http://atwonline.org/broadcast.html You can even read a script of the show, if you have nothing better to do: http://atwonline.org/scripts/2006/050307.html s From scott@fybush.com Wed May 2 23:04:22 2007 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 23:04:22 -0400 Subject: Wearing yet another of my many hats (Fybush on TV...again...) In-Reply-To: <46394A16.2090400@fybush.com> References: <46394A16.2090400@fybush.com> Message-ID: <46395136.2040308@fybush.com> Scott Fybush wrote: > In addition to being a fill-in newsperson on WXXI public radio here in > Rochester, I occasionally get dragged in front of the cameras at our > sister station, WXXI-TV...and those of you within range of NH Public TV > or Schenectady's WMHT can see one of those appearances tomorrow. And now...this important correction: that would be 4-4:30 *AM* on Thursday on NHPTV...so set those VCRs/DVRs/kinescope recorders before you go to bed! s From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Wed May 2 23:38:33 2007 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 23:38:33 -0400 Subject: Fw: [GEMOTO:1518] HD Radio (cheap!) In-Reply-To: <002601c78d19$aacfea80$0200a8c0@Tanguray> References: <002601c78d19$aacfea80$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <46395939.80106@ttlc.net> Brings to mind the "Loft Radios" that were so popular in the 50's after WWII surplus hit the market as well as the Muntz TVs that sold so well in NY. Roger Kolakowski wrote: > Last try... > > Not a recommendation or a solicitation...you see what I see... > > Roger > WA1KAT > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rick J Zach > To: gemoto@googlegroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 2:37 PM > Subject: [GEMOTO:1518] HD Radio (cheap!) > > HD Radio (cheap!) > > http://www.radiosophy.com/products/hd100.html > > From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Wed May 2 23:51:08 2007 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 23:51:08 -0400 Subject: Fw: [GEMOTO:1518] HD Radio (cheap!) In-Reply-To: <002601c78d19$aacfea80$0200a8c0@Tanguray> References: <002601c78d19$aacfea80$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <46395C2C.6010600@ttlc.net> There's also a $40 rebate coupon on the site - bringing the total cost down to $59.95. Whatta Deal! http://www.hdradio.com/2007_HDRadio_Rebate.pdf Wonder if it actually works? Roger Kolakowski wrote: > Last try... > > Not a recommendation or a solicitation...you see what I see... > > Roger > WA1KAT > http://www.radiosophy.com/products/hd100.html > > From dave@skywaves.net Wed May 2 23:45:47 2007 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 23:45:47 -0400 Subject: Fw: [GEMOTO:1518] HD Radio (cheap!) References: <002601c78d19$aacfea80$0200a8c0@Tanguray> <46395939.80106@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <004f01c78d35$891b4f80$336ba8c0@skywaves.net> Mad Man Muntz. Now there's a memory! -Dave Doherty Skywaves, Inc. 97 Webster Street Worcester, MA 01603 508-425-7176 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Kirk" To: "Roger Kolakowski" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:38 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [GEMOTO:1518] HD Radio (cheap!) > Brings to mind the "Loft Radios" that were so popular in the 50's after > WWII surplus hit the market as well as the Muntz TVs that sold so well > in NY. > > > > Roger Kolakowski wrote: >> Last try... >> >> Not a recommendation or a solicitation...you see what I see... >> >> Roger >> WA1KAT >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Rick J Zach >> To: gemoto@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 2:37 PM >> Subject: [GEMOTO:1518] HD Radio (cheap!) >> >> HD Radio (cheap!) >> >> http://www.radiosophy.com/products/hd100.html >> >> > > > From joe@attorneyross.com Thu May 3 01:03:33 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 00:03:33 -0500 Subject: Fw: [GEMOTO:1518] HD Radio (cheap!) In-Reply-To: <46395939.80106@ttlc.net> References: <002601c78d19$aacfea80$0200a8c0@Tanguray>, <46395939.80106@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <463926D5.8895.6431C7@joe.attorneyross.com> On 2 May 2007 at 23:38, Roger Kirk wrote: > Brings to mind the "Loft Radios" that were so popular in the 50's > after WWII surplus hit the market as well as the Muntz TVs that sold > so well in NY. My parents got one in Boston! We got better reception on the built- in antenna (a wire across the top of the inside of the cabinet) than the neighbors got with a roof antenna. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From bradfordwood@comcast.net Thu May 3 07:14:27 2007 From: bradfordwood@comcast.net (Bradford Wood) Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 07:14:27 -0400 Subject: The Jibguy's ratings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4639C413.6000907@comcast.net> If it didn't happen with the move by CC into the Boston market with Rumba, it won't happen with any other FM'er. I actually subscribed to the possibility that Jam'n was going to go Spanish, but when it went to 1430/1200 - that didn't surprise me either. Still waiting for them to go HD to give Costa/Eagle a run for their money, but I digress. While there is a growing Hispanic population in the Boston market, it is not yet enough to garner the money that would be needed to support a full time FM'er in Boston. But when that happens - my money is on Jam'n and CC. The other problem is the Spanish format - there's not just one hardcore format. Its broken down into many various formats (tejano, bachatta, and reggaton just to name a few) - and from what I understand - you can't really mix one or more of them successfully. BW Michael E wrote: > From: Donna Halper > >> And did I miss the numbers of WKOX/WXKS? Didn't they do better with >> progressive talk than they are doing with Spanish? 8-) >> > > I think it's sound quality. > > Spanish-speaking listeners know how bad AM sounds, compared to FM. > How long til a Boston FM is either bought by a Hispanic owner, or one > of the conglomerates makes one of the stations Spanish full-time? > > _________________________________________________________________ > Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. > http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglineapril07 > > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu May 3 07:28:45 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 07:28:45 -0400 Subject: Fw: [GEMOTO:1518] HD Radio (cheap!) References: <002601c78d19$aacfea80$0200a8c0@Tanguray> <46395939.80106@ttlc.net> <004f01c78d35$891b4f80$336ba8c0@skywaves.net> Message-ID: <001e01c78d76$3b3784a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Brings up a fantastic old commercial/old radio/semi-classical music trivia question: What semi-classical piece was the basis for TWO 1940s-era singing commercials for two totally unrelated products and what were the products? (Different parts of the music selection, which had no vocal in its original incarnation, were used in the two different singing commercials from the same era.) Answer below Artists Life Waltz by Johann Strauss (I think the younger Johann Strauss--but someone will correct me if I'm wrong) The commercials were for La Boheme wine (which, in an incredibly declasse touch--appropriate, I guess, for a cheap sweet red wine that appealed mostly to winos--was pronounced La BoHEME not La Bo-emm, which is the correct French pronunciation) and Mad Man Muntz Car Dealership and Kaiser-Fraser automobiles. The lyrics went: "With La BoHEME, you can't go wrong/it's the wine that real-ly rates a song" and "Kai'-zer-Frai'-zer/yours at once/di-rect from Mad Man Muntz." -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Doherty" To: "Roger Kirk" ; "Roger Kolakowski" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:45 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [GEMOTO:1518] HD Radio (cheap!) > Mad Man Muntz. > > Now there's a memory! > > -Dave Doherty > Skywaves, Inc. > 97 Webster Street > Worcester, MA 01603 > 508-425-7176 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger Kirk" > To: "Roger Kolakowski" > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:38 PM > Subject: Re: Fw: [GEMOTO:1518] HD Radio (cheap!) > > > > Brings to mind the "Loft Radios" that were so popular in the 50's after > > WWII surplus hit the market as well as the Muntz TVs that sold so well > > in NY. > > > > > > > > Roger Kolakowski wrote: > >> Last try... > >> > >> Not a recommendation or a solicitation...you see what I see... > >> > >> Roger > >> WA1KAT > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Rick J Zach > >> To: gemoto@googlegroups.com > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 2:37 PM > >> Subject: [GEMOTO:1518] HD Radio (cheap!) > >> > >> HD Radio (cheap!) > >> > >> http://www.radiosophy.com/products/hd100.html > >> > >> > > > > > > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu May 3 07:33:16 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 07:33:16 -0400 Subject: The Jibguy's ratings References: <4639C413.6000907@comcast.net> Message-ID: <002801c78d76$db6f24a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> WXKS (AM) 1430 has been running HD since long before the switch to Rumba. WKOX will also run HD once the move to Newton is complete. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bradford Wood" To: "Michael E" Cc: Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 7:14 AM Subject: Re: The Jibguy's ratings > If it didn't happen with the move by CC into the Boston market with > Rumba, it won't happen with any other FM'er. I actually subscribed to > the possibility that Jam'n was going to go Spanish, but when it went to > 1430/1200 - that didn't surprise me either. Still waiting for them to > go HD to give Costa/Eagle a run for their money, but I digress. While > there is a growing Hispanic population in the Boston market, it is not > yet enough to garner the money that would be needed to support a full > time FM'er in Boston. But when that happens - my money is on Jam'n and CC. > > The other problem is the Spanish format - there's not just one hardcore > format. Its broken down into many various formats (tejano, bachatta, > and reggaton just to name a few) - and from what I understand - you > can't really mix one or more of them successfully. > > BW > > Michael E wrote: > > From: Donna Halper > > > >> And did I miss the numbers of WKOX/WXKS? Didn't they do better with > >> progressive talk than they are doing with Spanish? 8-) > >> > > > > I think it's sound quality. > > > > Spanish-speaking listeners know how bad AM sounds, compared to FM. > > How long til a Boston FM is either bought by a Hispanic owner, or one > > of the conglomerates makes one of the stations Spanish full-time? > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. > > http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglineapr il07 > > > > > > > From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Thu May 3 11:04:56 2007 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 08:04:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Call 442-7000.......... and you'll see Muntz TV! In-Reply-To: <463926D5.8895.6431C7@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <332758.68976.qm@web50812.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > On 2 May 2007 at 23:38, Roger Kirk wrote: > > > Brings to mind the "Loft Radios" that were so > popular in the 50's > > after WWII surplus hit the market as well as the > Muntz TVs that sold > > so well in NY. > > My parents got one in Boston! We got better > reception on the built- > in antenna (a wire across the top of the inside of > the cabinet) than > the neighbors got with a roof antenna. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. > 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax > 617.742.7581 > Boston, MA 02108-2503 > http://www.attorneyross.com > > > Ah, yes!!! Mad Man Muntz and his gutted TV's. Numb as all hell. I can still recall those radio commercials on WMEX..... "Call 442-7000 and you'll see Muntz TV-eeeeeee! Call 442-7000.... see Muntz TV today-yyyyyyy! God, you'd have to be within the visual sight of the transmitters to get a good picture. For all intents and purposes, Muntz TV's had virtually no front end. The color ones (yes, there WERE Muntz color TV sets) were even worse. (Yuck!) Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie1@yahoo.com radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From elipolo@earthlink.net Thu May 3 11:22:40 2007 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 11:22:40 -0400 Subject: The Jibguy's ratings Message-ID: > > From: "Michael E" > To: dlh@donnahalper.com, scott@fybush.com, > boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 17:39:23 -0400 > Subject: Re: The Jibguy's ratings > > From: Donna Halper > > >And did I miss the numbers of WKOX/WXKS? Didn't they do > >better with progressive talk than they are doing with > >Spanish? 8-) > > I think it's sound quality. Spanish-speaking listeners > know how bad AM sounds, compared to FM. That doesn't necessarily keep the audience from listening entirely, though. Note that in this same book, Spanish AM 800 WNNW Lawrence pulled a very respectable number for an AM signal that is weak in Boston by day, and is generally not listenable south of the 128/93 interchange at night. Perhaps almost all of their numbers may come from listeners in the Lawrence/Lowell/Merrimack Valley areas, but it beat many other low-tiered Boston based AM's in the Boston book while only covering a portion of the market. Meanwhile, WKOX/WXKS, which covers Boston's neighborhoods well by day via 1430, and also covers the lower North Shore 24/7 where there's some Spanish population as well, is still bubbling under the published threshold (0.4) somewhere. 800 WNNW got at least a (speculated) three times the numbers of WKOX/WXKS in the Boston book. Very strange. EP From stephanie@gordsven.com Thu May 3 12:37:30 2007 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 12:37:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: The Jibguy's ratings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48979.12.37.144.130.1178210250.squirrel@mail.gordsven.com> Belated congratulations to Bob. I'm still jonesing to babysit WJIB on weekends...just for bus fare to and back and maybe a sandwich. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY, USA From revdoug1@verizon.net Thu May 3 13:53:32 2007 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 13:53:32 -0400 Subject: Call 442-7000.......... and you'll see Muntz TV! References: <332758.68976.qm@web50812.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <14d201c78dab$f7d56570$6401a8c0@pastor2> Sounds like we've got a "pro" and a "con" on Muntz TVs here. I remember the ads, too. But I never knew anyone who had one of the sets. Is there anyone else out there knows about them first-hand? You guys have got me really curious now. And what about those do-it-yourself TV kits, with which a person (presumably one with some electronics knowhow) could build his own set? I can't remember the name of the company that offered those. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Q. George" To: "A. Joseph Ross" ; "Roger Kirk" Cc: Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 11:04 AM Subject: Call 442-7000.......... and you'll see Muntz TV! > > On 2 May 2007 at 23:38, Roger Kirk wrote: > > > > > Brings to mind the "Loft Radios" that were so > > popular in the 50's > > > after WWII surplus hit the market as well as the > > Muntz TVs that sold > > > so well in NY. > > > > My parents got one in Boston! We got better > > reception on the built- > > in antenna (a wire across the top of the inside of > > the cabinet) than > > the neighbors got with a roof antenna. > > > > -- > > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. > > 617.367.0468 > > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax > > 617.742.7581 > > Boston, MA 02108-2503 > > http://www.attorneyross.com > > > > > > > > Ah, yes!!! Mad Man Muntz and his gutted TV's. Numb as > all hell. I can still recall those radio commercials > on WMEX..... > > "Call 442-7000 and you'll see Muntz TV-eeeeeee! Call > 442-7000.... see Muntz TV today-yyyyyyy! > > God, you'd have to be within the visual sight of the > transmitters to get a good picture. For all intents > and purposes, Muntz TV's had virtually no front end. > The color ones (yes, there WERE Muntz color TV sets) > were even worse. (Yuck!) > > > Peter Q. George (K1XRB) > Whitman, Massachusetts > "Scanning the bands since 1967" > radiojunkie1@yahoo.com > radiojunkie3@yahoo.com > *********************************************************** > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com From RBello@BelloAssoc.com Thu May 3 13:31:24 2007 From: RBello@BelloAssoc.com (Ron Bello) Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 13:31:24 -0400 Subject: Call 442-7000.......... and you'll see Muntz TV! In-Reply-To: <14d201c78dab$f7d56570$6401a8c0@pastor2> References: <332758.68976.qm@web50812.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <14d201c78dab$f7d56570$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20070503132923.02665e00@BelloAssoc.com> Heathkit At 01:53 PM 5/3/2007, you wrote: >Sounds like we've got a "pro" and a "con" on Muntz TVs here. I remember the >ads, too. But I never knew anyone who had one of the sets. Is there anyone >else out there knows about them first-hand? You guys have got me really >curious now. And what about those do-it-yourself TV kits, with which a >person (presumably one with some electronics knowhow) could build his own >set? I can't remember the name of the company that offered those. > >-Doug > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Peter Q. George" >To: "A. Joseph Ross" ; "Roger Kirk" > >Cc: >Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 11:04 AM >Subject: Call 442-7000.......... and you'll see Muntz TV! > > > > > On 2 May 2007 at 23:38, Roger Kirk wrote: > > > > > > > Brings to mind the "Loft Radios" that were so > > > popular in the 50's > > > > after WWII surplus hit the market as well as the > > > Muntz TVs that sold > > > > so well in NY. > > > > > > My parents got one in Boston! We got better > > > reception on the built- > > > in antenna (a wire across the top of the inside of > > > the cabinet) than > > > the neighbors got with a roof antenna. > > > > > > -- > > > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. > > > 617.367.0468 > > > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax > > > 617.742.7581 > > > Boston, MA 02108-2503 > > > http://www.attorneyross.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah, yes!!! Mad Man Muntz and his gutted TV's. Numb as > > all hell. I can still recall those radio commercials > > on WMEX..... > > > > "Call 442-7000 and you'll see Muntz TV-eeeeeee! Call > > 442-7000.... see Muntz TV today-yyyyyyy! > > > > God, you'd have to be within the visual sight of the > > transmitters to get a good picture. For all intents > > and purposes, Muntz TV's had virtually no front end. > > The color ones (yes, there WERE Muntz color TV sets) > > were even worse. (Yuck!) > > > > > > Peter Q. George (K1XRB) > > Whitman, Massachusetts > > "Scanning the bands since 1967" > > radiojunkie1@yahoo.com > > radiojunkie3@yahoo.com > > *********************************************************** > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com From readaaron@friedbagels.com Thu May 3 12:30:13 2007 From: readaaron@friedbagels.com (Aaron Read) Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 12:30:13 -0400 Subject: The Jibguy's ratings Message-ID: <463A0E15.8040507@friedbagels.com> This begs a question I've often wondered? Is the WJIB "Model of Success" portable to another signal? For example, let's say (in a parallel universe) Peter Smyth looks at WJIB and looks at WBOS and decides that it's time for the "format of the month" to come to an end, and he wants to hire Bob to run WBOS *exactly* like WJIB. Not just the programming, but also the managerial freedom. Assuming, for a moment, that Bob would take the job...could you pick up WJIB's programming (lack of commercials and all), drop it on WBOS, and still have it work? Would the "ban" of commercials be too hindering to justify the rent on the Pru anymore? -- -------------------------- Aaron Read readaaron@friedbagels.com Boston, MA 02446-2204 Anyone else notice the 12+ numbers that just came out? Our good friend Mr. Bittner didn't just crack a 1-share...he apparently has more listeners 12+ than WFNX or WXRV, and is gaining on WBOS! I wonder if this isn't the most impressive ratings performance by a one-man station in history? s From francini@mac.com Thu May 3 13:50:04 2007 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 13:50:04 -0400 Subject: Call 442-7000.......... and you'll see Muntz TV! In-Reply-To: <14d201c78dab$f7d56570$6401a8c0@pastor2> References: <332758.68976.qm@web50812.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <14d201c78dab$f7d56570$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: As with most things, it would appear that the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Check out for a fairly sympathetic story about Muntz' skills as an engineer. j On 3 May 2007, at 13:53, Doug Drown wrote: > Sounds like we've got a "pro" and a "con" on Muntz TVs here. I > remember the > ads, too. But I never knew anyone who had one of the sets. Is > there anyone > else out there knows about them first-hand? You guys have got me > really > curious now. And what about those do-it-yourself TV kits, with > which a > person (presumably one with some electronics knowhow) could build > his own > set? I can't remember the name of the company that offered those. > > -Doug > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Q. George" > To: "A. Joseph Ross" ; "Roger Kirk" > > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 11:04 AM > Subject: Call 442-7000.......... and you'll see Muntz TV! > > >>> On 2 May 2007 at 23:38, Roger Kirk wrote: >>> >>>> Brings to mind the "Loft Radios" that were so >>> popular in the 50's >>>> after WWII surplus hit the market as well as the >>> Muntz TVs that sold >>>> so well in NY. >>> >>> My parents got one in Boston! We got better >>> reception on the built- >>> in antenna (a wire across the top of the inside of >>> the cabinet) than >>> the neighbors got with a roof antenna. >>> >>> -- >>> A. Joseph Ross, J.D. >>> 617.367.0468 >>> 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax >>> 617.742.7581 >>> Boston, MA 02108-2503 >>> http://www.attorneyross.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> Ah, yes!!! Mad Man Muntz and his gutted TV's. Numb as >> all hell. I can still recall those radio commercials >> on WMEX..... >> >> "Call 442-7000 and you'll see Muntz TV-eeeeeee! Call >> 442-7000.... see Muntz TV today-yyyyyyy! >> >> God, you'd have to be within the visual sight of the >> transmitters to get a good picture. For all intents >> and purposes, Muntz TV's had virtually no front end. >> The color ones (yes, there WERE Muntz color TV sets) >> were even worse. (Yuck!) >> >> >> Peter Q. George (K1XRB) >> Whitman, Massachusetts >> "Scanning the bands since 1967" >> radiojunkie1@yahoo.com >> radiojunkie3@yahoo.com >> *********************************************************** >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com > From kc1ih@mac.com Thu May 3 13:52:59 2007 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 13:52:59 -0400 Subject: Call 442-7000.......... and you'll see Muntz TV! In-Reply-To: <14d201c78dab$f7d56570$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <000601c78dab$e822d770$c7151bac@MasterExtra> > -----Original Message----- And what about those do-it-yourself TV kits, > with which a > person (presumably one with some electronics knowhow) could > build his own set? I can't remember the name of the company > that offered those. Heathkit TV's were popular for a while, made by Heath Company (now Heath-Zenith) of Benton Harbor, Michigan. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu May 3 13:55:54 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 13:55:54 -0400 Subject: The Jibguy's ratings References: <463A0E15.8040507@friedbagels.com> Message-ID: <002401c78dac$4f641980$19eefea9@dstrassberg> WJIB's automation system could handle commercials--if Bob wanted commercials, which he doesn't. The unanswered question is, if you added commercials to the mix, whether the audience would materially decrease. I think it would decrease, but whether the decrease would be significant is a different question. My guess is that the decrease would not be significant. HOWEVER, a breakdown of the audience demographics would probably show that, good numbers notwithstanding, this is not an audience that advertisers would pay to have hear their commercials. According to agency and sales force folklore, the people are too old, don't buy anything, and each has a minimum of one foot in the grave. Would a shift to FM increase the audience numbers more than enough to offset the loss from airing commercials? I think so. Would the demos improve? I bet yes on that one too. Would the demos improve enough to make the audience something a Greater Media sales force could sell to advertisers? No way! Remember, anyone GM would hire to sell WJIB believes the too old crap as much as the agencies do. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Read" To: Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 12:30 PM Subject: The Jibguy's ratings > This begs a question I've often wondered? Is the WJIB "Model of > Success" portable to another signal? > > For example, let's say (in a parallel universe) Peter Smyth looks at > WJIB and looks at WBOS and decides that it's time for the "format of the > month" to come to an end, and he wants to hire Bob to run WBOS *exactly* > like WJIB. Not just the programming, but also the managerial freedom. > > Assuming, for a moment, that Bob would take the job...could you pick up > WJIB's programming (lack of commercials and all), drop it on WBOS, and > still have it work? > > Would the "ban" of commercials be too hindering to justify the rent on > the Pru anymore? > > -- > > > -------------------------- > Aaron Read > readaaron@friedbagels.com > Boston, MA 02446-2204 > > > > Anyone else notice the 12+ numbers that just came out? Our good friend > Mr. Bittner didn't just crack a 1-share...he apparently has more > listeners 12+ than WFNX or WXRV, and is gaining on WBOS! > > I wonder if this isn't the most impressive ratings performance by a > one-man station in history? > > s > From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Thu May 3 14:45:15 2007 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 11:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Call 442-7000.......... and you'll see Muntz TV! In-Reply-To: <14d201c78dab$f7d56570$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <650968.96974.qm@web50805.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --- Doug Drown wrote: > Sounds like we've got a "pro" and a "con" on Muntz > TVs here. I remember the > ads, too. But I never knew anyone who had one of > the sets. Is there anyone > else out there knows about them first-hand? YES. I have seen these sets. And old girlfriend of mine had a backup 1964 Muntz Color set at her parents' house (circa 1975-76). The picture was pretty good, provided you had an outside aerial. With an inside rabbit ear antenna, outside 20 miles of Needham, it was like multi-colored confetti. UHF, forget it. NUMB! Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie1@yahoo.com radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Thu May 3 17:41:37 2007 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 17:41:37 -0400 Subject: Fw: [GEMOTO:1518] HD Radio (cheap!) In-Reply-To: <002701c78d7f$4bfccc10$680fa8c0@BrianVaio> References: <002601c78d19$aacfea80$0200a8c0@Tanguray> <46395939.80106@ttlc.net> <002701c78d7f$4bfccc10$680fa8c0@BrianVaio> Message-ID: <463A5711.8060009@ttlc.net> Brian Vita wrote: > OK, I'll bite. I'm a young-un. What's a Loft radio or a Muntz TV? > As told to me by a radio-tv repairman who started in 1928 (at the age of 13): Loft Radio: According to him, when WWII electronic surplus came on the market, entrepreneurs would hire engineers to design radios using whatever parts were available in large quantities, cheap! The designs were frequently, unusual, but they worked. Usually, they were assembled by inexpensive local labor (New York) in cheaply-rented space e.g. a loft. Hence the name. They were made in batches - the size of which was governed by the the number of parts available. Undocumented, sold locally under unusual names and almost never covered by Sams' Photofacts. Conformance with UL was, no doubt, a mystery. Problems arose when they malfunctioned and were brought to a repair shop. With no schematic to guide the technician and an unorthodox design, it was a real challenge to bring it back to life. Muntz TV: Alledgedly, MR. Muntz contracted with one or more engineers to design CHEAP televisions. According to lore, they would buy a brand-name TV (let's say RCA for example) and with schematics in hand, they would disconnect components one by one e.g. bypass caps, gain stages, etc. If it made little or no difference in the picture, it was noted and discarded. The final result was (usually) a TV that worked "decently" in a high signal strength area e.g. NY City. Stability and quality of picture on a distant signal was nil. BUT, it was cheap! Some people owned them and subsequently moved to a state like Maine where TV signals were few, distant and multi-path (ghosting) was a constant problem. The lack of picture quality was immediately apparent and TV repairmen had difficulty explaining to disbelieving customers that there really wasn't anything wrong with their TV, except it just wasn't very well designed. This is how it was told to me by one who had to repair them from time to time. Can anybody else corroborate? From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Thu May 3 17:47:55 2007 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 17:47:55 -0400 Subject: Call 442-7000.......... and you'll see Muntz TV! In-Reply-To: <14d201c78dab$f7d56570$6401a8c0@pastor2> References: <332758.68976.qm@web50812.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <14d201c78dab$f7d56570$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <463A588B.7090403@ttlc.net> Peter Q. George wrote: >> Ah, yes!!! Mad Man Muntz and his gutted TV's. Numb as >> all hell. I can still recall those radio commercials >> on WMEX..... >> >> "Call 442-7000 and you'll see Muntz TV-eeeeeee! Call >> 442-7000.... see Muntz TV today-yyyyyyy! >> >> God, you'd have to be within the visual sight of the >> transmitters to get a good picture. For all intents >> and purposes, Muntz TV's had virtually no front end. >> The color ones (yes, there WERE Muntz color TV sets) >> were even worse. (Yuck!) >> Here's the whole story: http://www.smecc.org/mad_man_muntz!.htm From kenwvt@gmail.com Thu May 3 12:09:04 2007 From: kenwvt@gmail.com (Ken VanTassell) Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 12:09:04 -0400 Subject: Fw: [GEMOTO:1518] HD Radio (cheap!) In-Reply-To: <001e01c78d76$3b3784a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <002601c78d19$aacfea80$0200a8c0@Tanguray> <46395939.80106@ttlc.net> <004f01c78d35$891b4f80$336ba8c0@skywaves.net> <001e01c78d76$3b3784a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <647737520705030909o4585bd0em2597d9604152a3a0@mail.gmail.com> There is very little HD Radio being transmitted in NH: The HDRadio.com website lists all the stations by city and state. Concord, NH 89.1 WEVO-HD1 FM Nws/Tlk/Inf New Hampshire Public Radio Concord, NH 88.3 WEVS-HD1 FM Nws/Tlk/Inf New Hampshire Public Radio Keene, NH 1220 WZBK-HD AM Music of Your Life Saga Manchester, NH 95.7 WZID-HD1 FM AC Saga -Ken On 5/3/07, Dan Strassberg wrote: > Brings up a fantastic old commercial/old radio/semi-classical music trivia > question: > > What semi-classical piece was the basis for TWO 1940s-era singing > commercials for two totally unrelated products and what were the products? > (Different parts of the music selection, which had no vocal in its original > incarnation, were used in the two different singing commercials from the > same era.) > > Answer below > > > > > > > > > > Artists Life Waltz by Johann Strauss (I think the younger Johann > Strauss--but someone will correct me if I'm wrong) > > The commercials were for La Boheme wine (which, in an incredibly declasse > touch--appropriate, I guess, for a cheap sweet red wine that appealed mostly > to winos--was pronounced La BoHEME not La Bo-emm, which is the correct > French pronunciation) and Mad Man Muntz Car Dealership and Kaiser-Fraser > automobiles. > > The lyrics went: "With La BoHEME, you can't go wrong/it's the wine that > real-ly rates a song" and "Kai'-zer-Frai'-zer/yours at once/di-rect from Mad > Man Muntz." > > > -- > Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > eFax 707-215-6367 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Doherty" > To: "Roger Kirk" ; "Roger Kolakowski" > > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:45 PM > Subject: Re: Fw: [GEMOTO:1518] HD Radio (cheap!) > > > > Mad Man Muntz. > > > > Now there's a memory! > > > > -Dave Doherty > > Skywaves, Inc. > > 97 Webster Street > > Worcester, MA 01603 > > 508-425-7176 > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Roger Kirk" > > To: "Roger Kolakowski" > > Cc: > > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:38 PM > > Subject: Re: Fw: [GEMOTO:1518] HD Radio (cheap!) > > > > > > > Brings to mind the "Loft Radios" that were so popular in the 50's after > > > WWII surplus hit the market as well as the Muntz TVs that sold so well > > > in NY. > > > > > > > > > > > > Roger Kolakowski wrote: > > >> Last try... > > >> > > >> Not a recommendation or a solicitation...you see what I see... > > >> > > >> Roger > > >> WA1KAT > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: Rick J Zach > > >> To: gemoto@googlegroups.com > > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 2:37 PM > > >> Subject: [GEMOTO:1518] HD Radio (cheap!) > > >> > > >> HD Radio (cheap!) > > >> > > >> http://www.radiosophy.com/products/hd100.html > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From rickajho@rcn.com Thu May 3 17:11:32 2007 From: rickajho@rcn.com (Rick) Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 17:11:32 -0400 Subject: The Jibguy's ratings References: <463A0E15.8040507@friedbagels.com> <002401c78dac$4f641980$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <463A5004.F69D7BA9@rcn.com> Dan Strassberg wrote: > > WJIB's automation system could handle commercials--if Bob wanted > commercials, which he doesn't. The unanswered question is, if you added > commercials to the mix, whether the audience would materially decrease. I > think it would decrease, but whether the decrease would be significant is a > different question. My guess is that the decrease would not be significant. > HOWEVER, a breakdown of the audience demographics would probably show that, > good numbers notwithstanding, this is not an audience that advertisers would > pay to have hear their commercials. According to agency and sales force > folklore, the people are too old, don't buy anything, and each has a minimum > of one foot in the grave. Would a shift to FM increase the audience numbers > more than enough to offset the loss from airing commercials? I think so. > Would the demos improve? I bet yes on that one too. Would the demos improve > enough to make the audience something a Greater Media sales force could sell > to advertisers? No way! Remember, anyone GM would hire to sell WJIB believes > the too old crap as much as the agencies do. > > -- > Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > eFax 707-215-6367 > Since we're only talking theoretically here... I don't necessarily agree. Surveys are already showing that the younger age groups who all this marketing is supposed to be targeted at aren't even listening to radio any more, getting their music from MP3 downloads and independent net broadcasting instead. And since the baby boom generation is statistically massive and won't be shrinking any time soon there certainly should be an audience for WJIB type music for those less inclined to diddle with MP3 players. Which may go to the point of why WJIB is doing better in the ratings than it is allegedly supposed to be doing. You might have 40 stations out there that all sound the same geared to a younger demographic. Doesn't mean the target audience is actually listening. As far as advertisers go, all I can say is they aren't targeting the plethora of erectile dysfunction ads on TeeVee at 20 year olds. Or pain medications ads, or pain medications masquerading as heart attack prevention, or life insurance policies, or health insurance supplement policies, or retirement and investment planning, or "prevention" vitamins, or power wheelchairs or... There's certainly enough product advertising to support *ONE* WJIB type music format station in a large metropolitan area, should a media giant owner and their marketing machine ever be able to put two and two together without running it through a computer marketing model that isn't as narrow minded as most of them are. Rick From elipolo@earthlink.net Thu May 3 20:09:25 2007 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 20:09:25 -0400 Subject: The Jibguy's ratings Message-ID: > > From: Aaron Read > To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 12:30:13 -0400 > Subject: The Jibguy's ratings > > For example, let's say (in a parallel universe) Peter Smyth > looks at WJIB and looks at WBOS and decides ... he wants to > hire Bob to run WBOS *exactly* like WJIB. Not just the > programming, but also the managerial freedom. > > Assuming, for a moment, that Bob would take the job...could > you pick up WJIB's programming (lack of commercials and all) > drop it on WBOS, and still have it work? > > Would the "ban" of commercials be too hindering to justify > the rent on the Pru anymore? You're asking if the WJIB programming could work on WBOS WITHOUT commercials? How would Greater Media make money from the station without commercials? Major commercial broadcasting companies like Greater Media are all about making money! I doubt they would ever want to conduct an on-air fund drive like Bob did, and they're not about providing a community service and just raising the funds to cover expenses without making a significant profit. Sure, Bob has proved, not only by his fundraising success, but also by his ratings, that his programming could likely get fairly decent numbers on such a signal, but a company like Greater Media would never adopt his fundraising model and run an (effectively) non-commercial station. EP From ewerme@comcast.net Thu May 3 20:37:53 2007 From: ewerme@comcast.net (Ric Werme) Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 20:37:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Heathkit: (was)Re: Call 442-7000.......... and you'll see Muntz TV! Message-ID: <20070504003753.4C90B10254@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> > Sounds like we've got a "pro" and a "con" on Muntz TVs here. I remember the > ads, too. But I never knew anyone who had one of the sets. Is there anyone > else out there knows about them first-hand? You guys have got me really > curious now. And what about those do-it-yourself TV kits, with which a > person (presumably one with some electronics knowhow) could build his own > set? I can't remember the name of the company that offered those. Heathkit. Generally very good stuff, and building a Color TV was kinda the pinnacle of the kits. I never built a TV, but always wanted to. One sort of frustration was that you could build the kit and not really learn much about the electronics. The manuals did have a good theory of operation section, but they tested the assembly instructions on newly hired secretaries. The products often had diagnostic stuff built in, I think the color TVs had a convergence generator. They were best known for audio equipment, but all my audio stuff has died. A digital multimeter works fine, an RS232 breakout box is good (a transistor or two per signal line, so it's not just LEDS). The most challenging kit I built was an Audio Spectrum Analyzer that works pretty well except for a noisy power supply for the electroluminescent display. That has half octave resolution with narrow band active filters for each. A lot of precision resistors laid out "cordwood style". Eventually they had to abandon kits, both because people stopped having time to build them and because automated assembly techniques and surface mount components made handmade circuit boards impractical. A friend who did build a Color TV called the rail freight company and asked how much shipping would be for the 100+ lb package shipped from Western Michigan. After a few more queries, Bill mentioned it was a Heathkit Color TV. The agent said, "Oh, why didn't you say so in the first place, it's $56.00." Or whatever rail freight was then. Bill wasn't at home when for the first delivery attempt and came home to a note with a phone number to call to arrange a new date. He called the next morning and the agent couldn't find the package, suggesting the delivery guy might have loaded it up again without waiting for the scheduled date. Bill figured he better stay home and sure enough, the delivery guy showed up and mentioned his cousin had built one and was so excited about it that he felt it was worth bringing it anyway. Always wanted to build one, though installing the picture tube was a very nervewracking experience. A lot of energy in that vacuum. :-) Never heard of someone breaking a picture tube though. Heathkit also produced a lot of ham radio gear, as you might imagine. I think a few hams are guardians of the remnants of the Heath spare parts business. -Ric Werme From radiotony@comcast.net Thu May 3 21:22:01 2007 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 21:22:01 -0400 Subject: Fw: [GEMOTO:1518] HD Radio (cheap!) In-Reply-To: <647737520705030909o4585bd0em2597d9604152a3a0@mail.gmail.com> References: <002601c78d19$aacfea80$0200a8c0@Tanguray> <46395939.80106@ttlc.net> <004f01c78d35$891b4f80$336ba8c0@skywaves.net> <001e01c78d76$3b3784a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <647737520705030909o4585bd0em2597d9604152a3a0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003c01c78dea$9e51e7a0$daf5b6e0$@net> Thanks Ken. That's pretty sad. Best, Tony Schinella -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Ken VanTassell Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 12:09 PM To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: Fw: [GEMOTO:1518] HD Radio (cheap!) There is very little HD Radio being transmitted in NH: The HDRadio.com website lists all the stations by city and state. Concord, NH 89.1 WEVO-HD1 FM Nws/Tlk/Inf New Hampshire Public Radio Concord, NH 88.3 WEVS-HD1 FM Nws/Tlk/Inf New Hampshire Public Radio Keene, NH 1220 WZBK-HD AM Music of Your Life Saga Manchester, NH 95.7 WZID-HD1 FM AC Saga -Ken From joe@attorneyross.com Fri May 4 00:37:54 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 23:37:54 -0500 Subject: Call 442-7000.......... and you'll see Muntz TV! In-Reply-To: <332758.68976.qm@web50812.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <463926D5.8895.6431C7@joe.attorneyross.com>, <332758.68976.qm@web50812.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <463A7252.18665.EF72D@joe.attorneyross.com> On 3 May 2007 at 8:04, Peter Q. George wrote: > God, you'd have to be within the visual sight of the transmitters > to get a good picture. For all intents and purposes, Muntz TV's had > virtually no front end. The color ones (yes, there WERE Muntz > color TV sets) were even worse. (Yuck!) Well, having lived with one of them, I don't think they were all that bad. My parents bought the Muntz TV in 1949, when we were living in Allston. We got both Boston stations (4 and 7) fine. In those days, Channel 4 transmitted from the tall tower on Soldiers Field Road that could be seen all over Allston until it was destroyed by Hurricane Carol in 1954. But channel 7 was somewhere around the Medford-Malden line. We got both stations fine on the built-in antenna (which, as I've said, was a length of wire that ran across the inside top of the cabinet. I still have that wire and use it today as an FM antenna). When WJAR-TV in Providence moved from channel 11 to channel 10, I tried it and got sound, but no picture. It did break down now and then, usually a tube. Eventually my father got a book called "Telefixit," which explained in lay terms how to do the adjustments and replace tubes yourself. For awhile in the 50s and 60s, every drugstore had a tube tester and a supply of the most common types of tubes for sale. As the on-line article notes, there was no fine-tuning control. I didn't understand why other TV sets needed them, since our TV was always tuned, at least until new stations came on. I also never saw our TV picture slip horizontally. When we moved to Albany in 1953, there was only one VHF station, WRGB in Schenectady, which was then on channel 4. The apartment building we were in had a building antenna, which we used. When WRGB moved from channel 4 to channel 6, we got lousy reception because the tuner needed adjustment. Apparently this was happening all over the area, and there was a long wait for a serviceman to adjust it. One day my father called me into the livingroom, and when I saw the clear, sharp picture on the TV, he was my hero for the next couple of days at least. I was 8 years old at the time. He had wrapped electric tape around a screwdriver and done the adjustment himself. The next year we moved to a suburban house, and the TV again got channel 6 fine on its built-in antenna. The picture-positioning adjustments, which consisted of some coils around the picture tube, tended to need adjustment after each move. When we moved to Bedford in 1957, we found that it got only channel 4, and sound on channel 2. My parents decided to get a new Philco TV, and I, at age 12, read Telefixit to figure out how to fix it up. Eventually, I replaced a tube in the tuner section, and it got channel 7 again, as well as channel 9 in Manchester. With a rabbit ears, it got both of them quite well. It also got a picture on channel 2. When Channel 5 came on in November 1957, I did the tuner adjustment myself. You had to remove the three front knobs and then remove a metal panel behind the knobs to get access to the screw adjustment. It really wasn't that difficult an adjustment. The set died around 1960, when suddenly the screen was dark. One of the tubes in the high voltage power section had gone, as I verified at a drugstore tube tester. But I didn't have the money to replace it, and my parents didn't want to spend any more money on that TV. By that time, we had two newer TVs. So we eventually gave the innards to the electronics lab at the VA Hospital, where my mother worked, and my father and I made a couple of bookcases from the cabinet. Anyway, that was my experience with a Muntz TV. It did manage to get Channel 9 in Manchester, from Bedford, MA. It didn't get the Providence stations, which did come in rather snowy on our other TVs. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Fri May 4 00:37:55 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 23:37:55 -0500 Subject: The Jibguy's ratings In-Reply-To: <463A0E15.8040507@friedbagels.com> References: <463A0E15.8040507@friedbagels.com> Message-ID: <463A7253.32221.EFA69@joe.attorneyross.com> On 3 May 2007 at 12:30, Aaron Read wrote: > This begs a question I've often wondered? Is the WJIB "Model of > Success" portable to another signal? > > For example, let's say (in a parallel universe) Peter Smyth looks at > WJIB and looks at WBOS and decides that it's time for the "format of > the month" to come to an end, and he wants to hire Bob to run WBOS > *exactly* like WJIB. Not just the programming, but also the > managerial freedom. > > Assuming, for a moment, that Bob would take the job...could you pick > up WJIB's programming (lack of commercials and all), drop it on WBOS, > and still have it work? > > Would the "ban" of commercials be too hindering to justify the rent on > the Pru anymore? well, how would the station make money? Lease a few hours on Sunday? Ask for listener contributions? I don't think the former would be enough to satisfy a corporate owner, and I don't think a corporate- owned station would command the kind of listener-loyalty that allowed Bob to get such a great response. And the higher cost would mean more money would have to be realized. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Fri May 4 00:37:54 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 23:37:54 -0500 Subject: The Jibguy's ratings In-Reply-To: <002401c78dac$4f641980$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <463A0E15.8040507@friedbagels.com>, <002401c78dac$4f641980$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <463A7252.17952.EF79A@joe.attorneyross.com> On 3 May 2007 at 13:55, Dan Strassberg wrote: > Would the demos improve enough to make the audience something a > Greater Media sales force could sell to advertisers? No way! > Remember, anyone GM would hire to sell WJIB believes the too old > crap as much as the agencies do. Well, if I were running a station and wanted to appeal to that demographic, I'd tell my sales force that it was up to them to get ads for that demographic, their jobs depended on being successful at it, and that bonuses would be paid to those who did it well. Good advertising people, given the mission, should be able to figure out how to do it. Those who start by deciding it's impossible should be encouraged to work somewhere else. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Fri May 4 00:50:46 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 23:50:46 -0500 Subject: Call 442-7000.......... and you'll see Muntz TV! In-Reply-To: <650968.96974.qm@web50805.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <14d201c78dab$f7d56570$6401a8c0@pastor2>, <650968.96974.qm@web50805.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <463A7556.19238.1AC025@joe.attorneyross.com> On 3 May 2007 at 11:45, Peter Q. George wrote: > YES. I have seen these sets. And old girlfriend of > mine had a backup 1964 Muntz Color set at her parents' > house (circa 1975-76). The picture was pretty good, > provided you had an outside aerial. With an inside > rabbit ear antenna, outside 20 miles of Needham, it > was like multi-colored confetti. UHF, forget it. > NUMB! Have you seen off-air color-TV reception in Brookline? Multi-colored ghosts as well as confetti! -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From kc1ih@mac.com Thu May 3 23:54:26 2007 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 23:54:26 -0400 Subject: Heathkit: (was)Re: Call 442-7000.......... and you'll see Muntz TV! In-Reply-To: <20070504003753.4C90B10254@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> References: <20070504003753.4C90B10254@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> Message-ID: At 8:37 PM -0400 5/3/07, Ric Werme wrote: >Heathkit. Generally very good stuff, and building a Color TV was kinda the >pinnacle of the kits. A.K.A. Griefkit. Generally clear instructions, but there always seemed to be one step in the mechanical assembly that was a trap. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From kc1ih@mac.com Thu May 3 23:57:49 2007 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 23:57:49 -0400 Subject: Fw: [GEMOTO:1518] HD Radio (cheap!) In-Reply-To: <003c01c78dea$9e51e7a0$daf5b6e0$@net> References: <002601c78d19$aacfea80$0200a8c0@Tanguray> <46395939.80106@ttlc.net> <004f01c78d35$891b4f80$336ba8c0@skywaves.net> <001e01c78d76$3b3784a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <647737520705030909o4585bd0em2597d9604152a3a0@mail.gmail.com> <003c01c78dea$9e51e7a0$daf5b6e0$@net> Message-ID: >There is very little HD Radio being transmitted in NH: > >The HDRadio.com website lists all the stations by city and state. > >Concord, NH 89.1 WEVO-HD1 FM Nws/Tlk/Inf New Hampshire Public Radio >Concord, NH 88.3 WEVS-HD1 FM Nws/Tlk/Inf New Hampshire Public Radio >Keene, NH 1220 WZBK-HD AM Music of Your Life Saga >Manchester, NH 95.7 WZID-HD1 FM AC Saga I spoke to someone from WZID at the Made in NH Expo, and he said his guess is that WFEA may eventually appear as WZID-HD2. I don't know if this was based on any actual knowledge. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri May 4 03:04:11 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 02:04:11 -0500 Subject: Herald: Another cancer surgery for Paul Sullivan Message-ID: <20070504070411.6194C49B6A8@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Mentioned on WBZ tonight...thoughts and prayers go out to Sully. http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=198482 "For the fourth time in less than three years, WBZ-AM talk radio host Paul Sullivan is set to undergo brain surgery today in his brave battle against cancer. Doctors at Massachusetts General Hospital plan to remove a hemorrhaging, cancerous tumor from his brain during a nearly five-hour procedure. Sullivan, 49, said doctors ?are revisiting one of the same areas they have had trouble stabilizing. This is just a bump in the road,? Sullivan said yesterday. From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Fri May 4 07:31:11 2007 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (chuckigo@maine.rr.com) Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 07:31:11 -0400 Subject: Mass.Broadcast Hall of Fame Message-ID: as noted on AllAccess dot com NetNews - The inaugural class for the MASSACHUSETTS BROADCASTERS HALL OF FAME is being honored in events on SATURDAY (5/5) in BROCKTON, MA and on MAY 16 at RANDOLPH, MA. The HALL has been formed by a group of present and former broadcasters in conjunction with MASSASOIT COMMUNITY COLLEGE. The Hall of Famers to be honored at the BROCKTON event include longtime WHDH-A/BOSTON morning man JESS CAIN, comedy legends BOB AND RAY (who started at WHDH), and children's TV host REX TRAILER. The MAY 16 honorees include longtime BOSTON media personality (and syndicated TV "BOZO THE CLOWN") FRANK AVRUCH, BOSTON radio (WEEI-A, WRKO-A, WHDH- A) and TV (WNAC-TV) talker PAUL BENZAQUIN, former WBZ-TV-AM personality (and now "DANCING WITH THE STARS"/"AMERICA'S FUNNIEST HOME VIDEOS" host) TOM BERGERON, former WHDH-A host FRED B. COLE, WBZ-AM & TV weatherman DON KENT, WBZ-TV entertainment reporter JOYCE KULHAWIK, station owner HAROLD SEGAL, WBZ-TV anchor-host LIZ WALKER, and BOSTON BRUINS voice BOB WILSON. kudos to all for some well-deserved recognition! - -chuck igo From rogerkola@aol.com Fri May 4 06:37:36 2007 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 07:37:36 -0300 Subject: The Jibguy's ratings References: <463A0E15.8040507@friedbagels.com>, <002401c78dac$4f641980$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <463A7252.17952.EF79A@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <000f01c78e38$3d32ca40$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Good Morning Joe etal... This is not a defensive rant, just early morning musings... As Dan mentioned, the agencies that cover their behinds by buying only ratings are the biggest problem for "good salespeople" and with Arbitron's 18-54 slant, "Adult Standards" (although that description must have slid some as I listen to WJIB)are not reflected well within these demos. Additionally, if your station is operating with a .5 rating, and "profitable" (barely) are you as Owner going to "buy" the ratings so your "good salesmen" can utilize them in their sales package? Without a book how do you set/justify your rates? If you resort to "dollar a holler" rates, how many accounts will that salesperson have to balance to earn a decent commission? I guess finally, how much can you compensate a "mature salesperson" or several and still remain profitable? Can you keep up with the Big Boys (or Girls)to keep these outstanding salespeople? Musing mode off, all these questions are of course rhetorical and have been tossed around forever. It takes a special market to solve these issues and I personally don't think Boston is it. BTW...I happened to find this page of actual ratings for a number of demos in my web travels: www.triplefm.com/arbitron_F03.HTM I wonder if this market was embargoed after these were posted? Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Dan Strassberg" Cc: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:37 AM Subject: Re: The Jibguy's ratings > On 3 May 2007 at 13:55, Dan Strassberg wrote: > > > Would the demos improve enough to make the audience something a > > Greater Media sales force could sell to advertisers? No way! > > Remember, anyone GM would hire to sell WJIB believes the too old > > crap as much as the agencies do. > > Well, if I were running a station and wanted to appeal to that > demographic, I'd tell my sales force that it was up to them to get > ads for that demographic, their jobs depended on being successful at > it, and that bonuses would be paid to those who did it well. Good > advertising people, given the mission, should be able to figure out > how to do it. Those who start by deciding it's impossible should be > encouraged to work somewhere else. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > From rogerkola@aol.com Fri May 4 06:38:33 2007 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 07:38:33 -0300 Subject: For those who don't know.... Message-ID: <001401c78e38$5d2ea800$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Arbitron Suspends eDiary Mike Boyle, Radio and Records APRIL 30, 2007 - Arbitron told clients Friday it is suspending its recently-launched eDiary beginning with the Spring ratings period. The eDiary was introduced during the Winter `07 survey to participants in diary-based markets, giving them the option to use an Internet-based, electronic diary in place of the standard paper-and-pencil diary. Arbitron begins releasing the Winter ratings Monday. "Our analysis of the Winter data confirmed our prior research which showed no significant differences between paper and eDiary recorded listening. However unlike the results from earlier studies, eDiary appeared to have a negative impact on return rate, that is, the percentage of diaries sent out that are completed, returned, and become in-tab. We identified this issue during the survey and placed additional sample in the last month to meet our quarterly sample target commitments," the company said in a client letter. Arbitron had high hopes for the eDiary and expected positive results. Regrettably, Arbitron said it won't be using the eDiary again until satisfied that it "will have no negative effect on diary return and response rates From rogerkola@aol.com Fri May 4 06:43:59 2007 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 07:43:59 -0300 Subject: Mass.Broadcast Hall of Fame References: Message-ID: <003d01c78e39$1fad9c60$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Was it Rex Trailer that used to promote cruises he would be on? Did anyone actually go on a cruise to be with him? "Inquiring Minds Want to Know" ;-) Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 8:31 AM Subject: Mass.Broadcast Hall of Fame > as noted on AllAccess dot com NetNews - > > The inaugural class for the MASSACHUSETTS BROADCASTERS HALL OF FAME is > being honored in events on SATURDAY (5/5) in BROCKTON, MA and on MAY > 16 at RANDOLPH, MA. The HALL has been formed by a group of present and > former broadcasters in conjunction with MASSASOIT COMMUNITY COLLEGE. > > The Hall of Famers to be honored at the BROCKTON event include > longtime WHDH-A/BOSTON morning man JESS CAIN, comedy legends BOB AND > RAY (who started at WHDH), and children's TV host REX TRAILER. The MAY > 16 honorees include longtime BOSTON media personality (and syndicated > TV "BOZO THE CLOWN") FRANK AVRUCH, BOSTON radio (WEEI-A, WRKO-A, WHDH- > A) and TV (WNAC-TV) talker PAUL BENZAQUIN, former WBZ-TV-AM > personality (and now "DANCING WITH THE STARS"/"AMERICA'S FUNNIEST HOME > VIDEOS" host) TOM BERGERON, former WHDH-A host FRED B. COLE, WBZ-AM & > TV weatherman DON KENT, WBZ-TV entertainment reporter JOYCE KULHAWIK, > station owner HAROLD SEGAL, WBZ-TV anchor-host LIZ WALKER, and BOSTON > BRUINS voice BOB WILSON. > > kudos to all for some well-deserved recognition! > > - -chuck igo > From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Fri May 4 07:52:51 2007 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (chuckigo@maine.rr.com) Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 07:52:51 -0400 Subject: Mass.Broadcast Hall of Fame In-Reply-To: <003d01c78e39$1fad9c60$0200a8c0@Tanguray> References: <003d01c78e39$1fad9c60$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: roger asked - > Was it Rex Trailer that used to promote cruises he would be on? > Did anyone > actually go on a cruise to be with him? > > "Inquiring Minds Want to Know" ;-) > roger - i don't know if Rex did a cruise thing, but he was in pretty tight with the gang from Crimson Travel. they did the trips to Disney (land and then World) with Pablo & Sgt.Billy. always wanted to tag along, but it was ever so slightly out of financial reach, what with me being an under-employed shoe shine kid, i could never quite make enough cash to make it happen. Dave Maynard (is he already in the Mass.Broadcast Hall?) on the other hand, did lots of cruises, iirc. - -Chuck Igo From brian_vita@cssinc.com Fri May 4 09:37:13 2007 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 09:37:13 -0400 Subject: The Jibguy's ratings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <463B3709.5030407@cssinc.com> Eli Polonsky wrote: >>> From: Aaron Read >>> >> For example, let's say (in a parallel universe) Peter Smyth >> looks at WJIB and looks at WBOS and decides ... he wants to >> hire Bob to run WBOS *exactly* like WJIB. Not just the >> programming, but also the managerial freedom. >> >> Assuming, for a moment, that Bob would take the job...could >> you pick up WJIB's programming (lack of commercials and all) >> drop it on WBOS, and still have it work? >> >> > > More importantly, why, in your hypothetical world, would GM want to run essentially a non-profit station that could potentially have a parasitical effect (ie. drawing listeners) from one of its other stations. This was essentially the unstated argument over why they blew up WSJZ (smooth jazz if you've forgotten). The theory was that it was targeting the same demo as Magic and, particularly in the evening, taking their listeners. Brian Vita From brian_vita@cssinc.com Fri May 4 09:40:22 2007 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 09:40:22 -0400 Subject: Mass.Broadcast Hall of Fame In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <463B37C6.9030503@cssinc.com> chuckigo@maine.rr.com wrote: > as noted on AllAccess dot com NetNews - > > The inaugural class for the MASSACHUSETTS BROADCASTERS HALL OF FAME is > being honored in events on SATURDAY (5/5) in BROCKTON, MA and on MAY > 16 at RANDOLPH, MA. The HALL has been formed by a group of present and > former broadcasters in conjunction with MASSASOIT COMMUNITY COLLEGE. > > The Hall of Famers to be honored at the BROCKTON event include > longtime WHDH-A/BOSTON morning man JESS CAIN, comedy legends BOB AND > RAY (who started at WHDH), and children's TV host REX TRAILER. The MAY > 16 honorees include longtime BOSTON media personality (and syndicated > TV "BOZO THE CLOWN") FRANK AVRUCH, BOSTON radio (WEEI-A, WRKO-A, WHDH- > A) and TV (WNAC-TV) talker PAUL BENZAQUIN, former WBZ-TV-AM > personality (and now "DANCING WITH THE STARS"/"AMERICA'S FUNNIEST HOME > VIDEOS" host) TOM BERGERON, former WHDH-A host FRED B. COLE, WBZ-AM & > TV weatherman DON KENT, WBZ-TV entertainment reporter JOYCE KULHAWIK, > station owner HAROLD SEGAL, WBZ-TV anchor-host LIZ WALKER, and BOSTON > BRUINS voice BOB WILSON. > > kudos to all for some well-deserved recognition! > > - -chuck igo > What? No recognition for us long-time DJ's at WMWM? Its a fix! Brian Vita From SonnyDaye1@aol.com Fri May 4 12:28:50 2007 From: SonnyDaye1@aol.com (SonnyDaye1@aol.com) Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 12:28:50 -0400 Subject: Call 442-7000.......... and you'll see Muntz TV! Message-ID: <3BB81EFB.00661CC9.0CE337EB@aol.com> I just called 442-7000. They tried to sell me a Muntz MP3 player -Sonny Daye P. S. Has anyone tried the new Heathkit DVD player? . ___________________________________________________________ Sent by ePrompter, the premier email notification software. Free download at http://www.ePrompter.com. From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri May 4 12:37:54 2007 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 12:37:54 -0400 Subject: Adventure Car Hop is the Place to Go In-Reply-To: <3BB81EFB.00661CC9.0CE337EB@aol.com> References: <3BB81EFB.00661CC9.0CE337EB@aol.com> Message-ID: <20070504163821.696E867BDAF@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> And since we are all singing jingles, anyone remember the jingle for Adventure Car Hop? Btw, what is out at route 1 in Saugus these days, where Adventure Car Hop used to be? I went there once as a kid-- any of you ever go get the "Ginsburger"? (I was just listening to Arnie's re-creation of his show, which he did for the "Cruisin'" series, and it all came back to me...) From rogerkola@aol.com Fri May 4 11:46:46 2007 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 12:46:46 -0300 Subject: Not quite a Jingle but... References: <3BB81EFB.00661CC9.0CE337EB@aol.com> <20070504163821.696E867BDAF@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <000e01c78e63$6c2f63a0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Here is someone's world (well almost)search for Jenny at 867-5309... http://www.danstheman.com/Jenny.htm Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:37 PM Subject: Adventure Car Hop is the Place to Go > And since we are all singing jingles, anyone remember the jingle for > Adventure Car Hop? Btw, what is out at route 1 in Saugus these days, > where Adventure Car Hop used to be? I went there once as a kid-- any > of you ever go get the "Ginsburger"? (I was just listening to > Arnie's re-creation of his show, which he did for the "Cruisin'" > series, and it all came back to me...) > > From aerie.ma@comcast.net Fri May 4 13:05:06 2007 From: aerie.ma@comcast.net (Jim) Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 13:05:06 -0400 Subject: Adventure Car Hop is the Place to Go In-Reply-To: <20070504163821.696E867BDAF@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> References: <3BB81EFB.00661CC9.0CE337EB@aol.com> <20070504163821.696E867BDAF@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <00e401c78e6e$5df284b0$128e3f81@MoeHoward> Oh Adventure Car Hop is the place to go, for food that's always right, Adventure food is always just so, you'll relish every bite, It's out on Route One in Saugus, come dressed just as you are, Adventure, where the service is tops, and you never gets out of your car! taken from http://www.bambinomusical.com/David/WMEX.html -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Donna Halper Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 12:38 PM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: Adventure Car Hop is the Place to Go And since we are all singing jingles, anyone remember the jingle for Adventure Car Hop? Btw, what is out at route 1 in Saugus these days, where Adventure Car Hop used to be? I went there once as a kid-- any of you ever go get the "Ginsburger"? (I was just listening to Arnie's re-creation of his show, which he did for the "Cruisin'" series, and it all came back to me...) From wollman@bostonradio.org Fri May 4 13:12:53 2007 From: wollman@bostonradio.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 13:12:53 -0400 Subject: For those who don't know.... In-Reply-To: <001401c78e38$5d2ea800$0200a8c0@Tanguray> References: <001401c78e38$5d2ea800$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <17979.27029.277497.816741@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Arbitron Suspends eDiary > Mike Boyle, Radio and Records Just a reminder that this is not a "rip and read" mailing-list. Contributors are expected to post their own words. -GAWollman From readaaron@friedbagels.com Fri May 4 12:05:13 2007 From: readaaron@friedbagels.com (Aaron Read) Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 12:05:13 -0400 Subject: The Jibguy's ratings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <463B59B9.1070509@friedbagels.com> Eli Polonsky wrote: > You're asking if the WJIB programming could work on WBOS > WITHOUT commercials? How would Greater Media make money > from the station without commercials? Major commercial > broadcasting companies like Greater Media are all about > making money! I doubt they would ever want to conduct an > on-air fund drive like Bob did, and they're not about > providing a community service and just raising the funds > to cover expenses without making a significant profit. > I probably shouldn't have said "WBOS" - too easy to focus on it. I was thinking in a more general sense...any owner of a medium to large FM signal. Obviously that doesn't really help much...WFNX and WXRV are NOT going to change to WJIB's format, nor will any of the NCE FM signals, and the rest of the FM's in the area are either more successful than WJIB is or could be, or are in the same boat as WBOS; there's more profitable ways to run a station besides WJIB. However, don't dismiss WJIB's fundraising method out of hand. Remember that WCRB 102.5 ran several highly-successful fundraisers over the years. And did quite well in the ratings, too. OTOH, I suppose that proves my point: didn't WCRB 102.5 have a bitch of a time getting decent ad dollars despite respectable ratings every quarter? Something about having a hard time "selling" a classical format, wasn't it? After a fashion, it would almost make sense for a station like WMBR or WZBC to put in an HD Radio rig and rebroadcast WJIB on an HD2 or HD3 signal. They wouldn't care so much about making money as just doing a "community service", which few could argue that WJIB doesn't provide! And it's getting the ratings to prove it! Anyways, take advantage of the listener base to increase fundraising potential; have some kind of revenue sharing deal with Bob or something like that. Probably wouldn't work just yet because the HD Radios themselves are a little pricey for WJIB's prime demo. But hell, Radiosophy has a $99 radio coming out and there's a $40 rebate program going on. They're getting cheaper every month... -------------------------- Aaron Read readaaron@friedbagels.com Boston, MA 02446-2204 From sid@wrko.com Fri May 4 13:27:06 2007 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 11:27:06 -0600 Subject: Adventure Car Hop is the Place to Go Message-ID: >> what is out at route 1 in Saugus these days, where Adventure Car Hop used to be?<< Caruso's Diplomat...a hall for hire. >> I went there once as a kid-- any of you ever go get the "Ginsburger"?<< Yep...still have "Beep Beep" by the Playmates, which was the "plate" for my Ginsburger. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From revdoug1@verizon.net Fri May 4 14:28:41 2007 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 14:28:41 -0400 Subject: A fun trivia question Message-ID: <157501c78e7a$0ae89f00$6401a8c0@pastor2> While we're on the subject of Muntz TVs and their reportedly awful color sets, here's a good question to pursue: What was the first time you ever saw a color telecast? In my case, I was about fifteen, I think, and it was a telecast of the weekday afternoon Merv Griffin Show that used to be on Channel 4 in the mid-'60s. The set was a brand-new RCA Victor color console that was in one of the waiting rooms of Henry Heywood Hospital in Gardner. Someone had donated it to the hospital. The thing had quite a number of knobs and buttons on it, including at least three or four by which one could adjust the color, but obviously no one on the hospital staff knew what to do with them. Poor Merv was as green as a Martian. -Doug From Joe@attorneyross.com Fri May 4 15:41:20 2007 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 14:41:20 -0500 Subject: Adventure Car Hop is the Place to Go In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <463B4610.8199.180D1A@Joe.attorneyross.com> On 4 May 2007 Sid Schweiger wrote: > Yep...still have "Beep Beep" by the Playmates, which was the "plate" > for my Ginsburger. Do you still have a phonograph that will play it? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From news@southstation.org Fri May 4 14:50:41 2007 From: news@southstation.org (Larry Lovering) Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 14:50:41 -0400 Subject: Adventure Car Hop is the Place to Go In-Reply-To: <20070504163821.696E867BDAF@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> References: <3BB81EFB.00661CC9.0CE337EB@aol.com> <20070504163821.696E867BDAF@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <002e01c78e7d$31dde3b0$6f02a8c0@main> Oh, yeah- the beginning of my 45 collection was a Chicken-In-A-Basket with a 45; "Ramblin' Rose" by Nat King Cole. I saw Arnie there once too; I lived in Stoneham and this was the only drive in restaurant in the area. I have a picture of the Adventure Car Hop on my DJ bio at www.solidhitsradio.com/oldies/larry.htm -Larry Lovering -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Donna Halper Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 12:38 PM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: Adventure Car Hop is the Place to Go And since we are all singing jingles, anyone remember the jingle for Adventure Car Hop? Btw, what is out at route 1 in Saugus these days, where Adventure Car Hop used to be? I went there once as a kid-- any of you ever go get the "Ginsburger"? (I was just listening to Arnie's re-creation of his show, which he did for the "Cruisin'" series, and it all came back to me...) From news@southstation.org Fri May 4 14:53:14 2007 From: news@southstation.org (Larry Lovering) Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 14:53:14 -0400 Subject: Adventure Car Hop is the Place to Go In-Reply-To: <20070504163821.696E867BDAF@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> References: <3BB81EFB.00661CC9.0CE337EB@aol.com> <20070504163821.696E867BDAF@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <002f01c78e7d$9343aa90$6f02a8c0@main> Sorry, that was www.solidhitsradio.com/oldies/about.htm -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Donna Halper Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 12:38 PM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: Adventure Car Hop is the Place to Go And since we are all singing jingles, anyone remember the jingle for Adventure Car Hop? Btw, what is out at route 1 in Saugus these days, where Adventure Car Hop used to be? I went there once as a kid-- any of you ever go get the "Ginsburger"? (I was just listening to Arnie's re-creation of his show, which he did for the "Cruisin'" series, and it all came back to me...) From lglavin@mail.com Fri May 4 13:39:29 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 12:39:29 -0500 Subject: The Jibguy's ratings Message-ID: <20070504173931.2082F16402E@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Aaron Read" >To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: The Jibguy's ratings >Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 12:05:13 -0400 >However, don't dismiss WJIB's fundraising method out of hand. >Remember that WCRB 102.5 ran several highly-successful fundraisers >over the years. And did quite well in the ratings, too. OTOH, I >suppose that proves my point: didn't WCRB 102.5 have a bitch of a >time getting decent ad dollars despite respectable ratings every >quarter? Something about having a hard time "selling" a classical >format, wasn't it? Just to clarify the issue: the fundraisers WCRB used to run before the dumbing-down process under Mario Mazza came on the scene were for the benefit of the Boston Symphony Orchestra, and not for the station itself. KING-FM in Seattle and WFMT in Chicago are hybrid stations that are non-profit but run commercials too, and from time to time run fundraisers to benefit each outlet. = Auto Transport Welcome to BT Express Auto Transport, owned by NASCAR driver Billy Turner. We offer worldwide auto transport, with hundreds of car carriers available to your every need. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=e43296c30cf0a0daa7970e22b731ab95 From w1mnk@tampabay.rr.com Fri May 4 15:08:40 2007 From: w1mnk@tampabay.rr.com (Jon Maguire) Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 15:08:40 -0400 Subject: Adventure Car Hop is the Place to Go In-Reply-To: <00e401c78e6e$5df284b0$128e3f81@MoeHoward> References: <3BB81EFB.00661CC9.0CE337EB@aol.com> <20070504163821.696E867BDAF@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> <00e401c78e6e$5df284b0$128e3f81@MoeHoward> Message-ID: <463B84B8.9010804@tampabay.rr.com> Ah, Jim, a Friday stroll down memory lane!! How I long for the days when I was working at the WMEX transmitter site and Mac would call screaming about a millisecond drop in audio or carrier!! '68 to '70, almost every Saturday and Sunday. Oh, how I miss the smell of ozone from the RCA BC-50A!! WOWO Jon in Brandon Florida Jim wrote: > Oh Adventure Car Hop is the place to go, for food that's always right, > Adventure food is always just so, you'll relish every bite, > It's out on Route One in Saugus, come dressed just as you are, > Adventure, where the service is tops, and you never gets out of your car! > > taken from http://www.bambinomusical.com/David/WMEX.html > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of > Donna Halper > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 12:38 PM > To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > Subject: Adventure Car Hop is the Place to Go > > And since we are all singing jingles, anyone remember the jingle for > Adventure Car Hop? Btw, what is out at route 1 in Saugus these days, > where Adventure Car Hop used to be? I went there once as a kid-- any > of you ever go get the "Ginsburger"? (I was just listening to > Arnie's re-creation of his show, which he did for the "Cruisin'" > series, and it all came back to me...) > > From sid@wrko.com Fri May 4 15:09:20 2007 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 13:09:20 -0600 Subject: Adventure Car Hop is the Place to Go Message-ID: >>Do you still have a phonograph that will play it?<< Yes, I do. In fact, it's getting a workout lately, transferring lots of records to CD that I've been unable to find in that format. From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Fri May 4 17:18:02 2007 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 17:18:02 -0400 Subject: Don Imus Sues CBS Message-ID: <463BA30A.6060001@ttlc.net> As reported on WBZ NewsRadio 1030 this morning, Don Imus is suing CBS claiming he was wrongfully fired. His defence: CBS had delay in place plus the ability to bleep/ censor him - yet didn't use it. Will that hold water? From lglavin@mail.com Fri May 4 17:09:18 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 16:09:18 -0500 Subject: WAMG-AM 890 Testing Nighttime CP Message-ID: <20070504210918.7378416402E@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> Earlier this week, I noticed that WAMG-AM 890 was coming in better than usual here in the Massachusetts segment of the Merrimack River Valley, with a signal at about the same strength as WGAM-AM 900 in Nashwah (when AM 900 was WMVU, its station ID jingle went "WMVU, Nashwah"). Since this would have had an impact on WGAM, I posted to the Northern New England Board of radio-info.com, and WAMG's CE Chris Hall replied that the station is doing daytime tests of its CP for changes to the nighttime pattern. Since the pattern and power increase seem to be resulting in more signal due north, I wonder how much will be directed towards Boston, or even Dedham, its City (actually town) of License? = St George Utah - Zion National Park Info Visitor guide for Zion National Park, St. George, Hurricane and Springdale, Utah, including golf, conventions, lodging, hiking, camping and mountain biking. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=3df4438f530aa8f281282291e262d15d From songbook2@comcast.net Fri May 4 18:33:31 2007 From: songbook2@comcast.net (Russ Butler) Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 15:33:31 -0700 Subject: Green martians Message-ID: <463BB4BB.7090909@comcast.net> << > > From: Aaron Read > To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 12:05:13 -0400 > Subject: Re: The Jibguy's ratings > > ... it would almost make sense for a station like WMBR or > WZBC to put in an HD Radio rig and rebroadcast WJIB on an > HD2 or HD3 signal. They wouldn't care so much about making > money as just doing a "community service", which few could > argue that WJIB doesn't provide!.. take advantage of the > listener base to increase fundraising potential; have some > kind of revenue sharing deal with Bob or something like that. Wouldn't be a bad idea for the future, except for that WMBR is not interested in pursuing ways to increase fundraising potential. They're comfortable with the amount they already make between their one annual fundraising week every autumn (annual average $75k) and an annual stipend from MIT ($15k). It's all they need to run the modest, completely volunteer operation that they are. Even paying MIT almost all of it in 2003 ($80k) to finally install air conditioning in the station didn't put them anywhere near financial trouble. I haven't been at WZBC in many years, but I hear that they feel the same way. Though I think they may have one paid managerial consultant, they don't appear to be concerned with pursuing increasing or maximizing their fundraising. EP From sid@wrko.com Fri May 4 19:05:38 2007 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 17:05:38 -0600 Subject: Don Imus Sues CBS Message-ID: >>His defence: CBS had delay in place plus the ability to bleep/ censor him - yet didn't use it.<< >From what I've read in the various news accounts of this lawsuit, there is considerably more to it than that. Allegedly his contract contained rather specific language on what sort of show he was to provide CBS...a satirical, pushing-the-envelope, edgy, biting type of show...IOW, exactly what he was doing. It also supposedly stated that he could not be fired without a formal warning, which his lawyer claims he didn't get. He's asking for $40 million. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From me@billoneill.us Fri May 4 20:25:36 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 20:25:36 -0400 Subject: A fun trivia question In-Reply-To: <157501c78e7a$0ae89f00$6401a8c0@pastor2> References: <157501c78e7a$0ae89f00$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <463BCF00.7010309@billoneill.us> Doug Drown wrote: > What was the first time you ever > saw a color telecast? We didn't go 'color' until 1974 or thereabouts. I was a teen by then but I am still reeling over the fact that lassie was not gray and white. And, in hindsight, monochrome would have served us all better as viewers of The Brady Bunch's kitchen. Bill ('Coppertone' beats an 'Avacado' kitchen everytime) O'Neill From nostaticatall@charter.net Fri May 4 22:21:13 2007 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 22:21:13 -0400 Subject: Don Imus Sues CBS In-Reply-To: <463BA30A.6060001@ttlc.net> References: <463BA30A.6060001@ttlc.net> Message-ID: That's not the only defense he has. According to some reports, his contract stated that CBS expected him to provide compelling, edgy, topical and controversial content. What he said is certainly covered by that clause. The deal also allegedly stipulated that if a major incident like this arose, he would be given one formal reprimand, but not lose his job. A second offense would result in termination. He never received that reprimand so CBS may have breached the deal right there. As far as the delay goes, what he said did not violate any FCC regulation which is why most stations use the delay. Still, it's an interesting argument. If any of this is close to accurate, I can't see how Imus doesn't win this case. I believe the two sides will settle and CBS will have to pony up most of the money owed to him. He'll lay low while this litigates and once he wins, he'll be back on the radio. A lot of people have said he'll go to Sirius with Mel Karmazin but I disagree. My guess is he'll be doing morning drive at either WABC or WOR and self syndicate his show to markets outside New York. Could Barnicle be a "placeholder" morning show on WTKK until Imus resurfaces? Time will tell. -Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On May 4, 2007, at 5:18 PM, Roger Kirk wrote: > As reported on WBZ NewsRadio 1030 this morning, Don Imus is suing CBS > claiming he was wrongfully fired. His defence: CBS had delay in > place plus the ability to bleep/ censor him - yet didn't use it. > > Will that hold water? > > From joe@attorneyross.com Sat May 5 01:51:05 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 00:51:05 -0500 Subject: A fun trivia question In-Reply-To: <157501c78e7a$0ae89f00$6401a8c0@pastor2> References: <157501c78e7a$0ae89f00$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <463BD4F9.22316.B989DD@joe.attorneyross.com> On 4 May 2007 at 14:28, Doug Drown wrote: > While we're on the subject of Muntz TVs and their reportedly awful > color sets, here's a good question to pursue: What was the first time > you ever saw a color telecast? Sometime in 1955 or 1956 at the Museum of Science. They had a lounge with a color TV, with a transparent cabinet, so that the innards were visible. I wasn't very impressed. The colors weren't very good for the most part, and I think they hadn't quite figured out how to do studio lighting for color, either. But the view of the NBC Peacock was awesome. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Sat May 5 01:51:06 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 00:51:06 -0500 Subject: Don Imus Sues CBS In-Reply-To: <463BA30A.6060001@ttlc.net> References: <463BA30A.6060001@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <463BD4FA.10870.B98A69@joe.attorneyross.com> On 4 May 2007 at 17:18, Roger Kirk wrote: > As reported on WBZ NewsRadio 1030 this morning, Don Imus is suing CBS > claiming he was wrongfully fired. His defence: CBS had delay in > place plus the ability to bleep/ censor him - yet didn't use it. > > Will that hold water? An awful lot depends on the terms of his contract. Apparently he claims that his contract called for him to be controversial. Well, we'll see what happens. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Sat May 5 01:51:06 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 00:51:06 -0500 Subject: Don Imus Sues CBS In-Reply-To: References: <463BA30A.6060001@ttlc.net>, Message-ID: <463BD4FA.1188.B98C3E@joe.attorneyross.com> On 4 May 2007 at 22:21, David Tomm wrote: > If any of this is close to accurate, I can't see how Imus doesn't win > this case. I believe the two sides will settle and CBS will have to > pony up most of the money owed to him. He'll lay low while this > litigates and once he wins, he'll be back on the radio. It depends on what the other eleventeen pages of his contract say. Of course, litigation could take years in any event. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@bimajority.org Sat May 5 11:30:58 2007 From: wollman@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 11:30:58 -0400 Subject: Don Imus Sues CBS In-Reply-To: <463BD4FA.1188.B98C3E@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <463BA30A.6060001@ttlc.net> <463BD4FA.1188.B98C3E@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <17980.41778.972163.675563@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> < said: > It depends on what the other eleventeen pages of his contract say. > Of course, litigation could take years in any event. Query: in litigation of this type, is it likely that the actual text of the contract will be made part of the public record? -GAWollman From SonnyDaye1@aol.com Sat May 5 12:50:51 2007 From: SonnyDaye1@aol.com (SonnyDaye1@aol.com) Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 12:50:51 -0400 Subject: A fun trivia question Message-ID: <0ED4FCF5.310DAF72.0CE337EB@aol.com> Doug Drown wrote: > What was the first time you ever > saw a color telecast? --------------------------------- The first time I ever HEARD a color broadcast was: 1957/58, "WMEX 1510, Color Radio". Remember that? Mac Richmond was always on top of the latest fad in popularity and took advantage of it and promoted it to the hilt. Why NOT color RADIO?!! -Sonny Daye . ___________________________________________________________ Sent by ePrompter, the premier email notification software. Free download at http://www.ePrompter.com. From radiojunkie3@yahoo.com Sat May 5 13:04:25 2007 From: radiojunkie3@yahoo.com (Peter Q. George) Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 10:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: First color, eh?????? Hmmmmmm..... In-Reply-To: <157501c78e7a$0ae89f00$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <189110.34333.qm@web50810.mail.re2.yahoo.com> My first introduction to color was in March, 1967 watching Channel 7 on a Magnavox console color set at a friends' house. Every afternoon at 4:00, WNAC-TV (Channel 7) used to run "Captain America" cartoons (the Marvel Comics with the "Hulk", "Captain America" and "Iron Man") with live local inserts with a guy dressed up as "Captain America" (complete with the vivid red, white and blue costume). The show was so popular, an 90 minute version was briefly aired on Saturday mornings at 10:30 AM. (WNAC was pre-empting the ABC cartoon lineup). But, it was eventually cancelled by May, 1967. It was one of Channel 7's FIRST full local color shows. (WNAC was always LAST in technical innovations, like local color.) Does anyone recall "Captain America" on Channel 7? If so, who was the local talent who played the Captain? Just curious...... And remember...... (Dahdahdahdahhhhh......)"Call 442-seven-thousand, and you'll see Muntz TV!!!! Call 442-seven-thousand, see Muntz TV todayyyyyyy!!!" Somehow the Muntz TV ads away were back-to-back with Tom Black Insurance spots on WMEX. Ah, yes..... "THE INSURANCE AGENCY THAT TAKES ALL RISKS......TOM BLACK!!!! (DAH, DAH, DAH.....DUHHHHHHH!) -Pete --- Doug Drown wrote: > While we're on the subject of Muntz TVs and their > reportedly awful color > sets, here's a good question to pursue: What was > the first time you ever > saw a color telecast? > > In my case, I was about fifteen, I think, and it was > a telecast of the > weekday afternoon Merv Griffin Show that used to be > on Channel 4 in the > mid-'60s. The set was a brand-new RCA Victor color > console that was in one > of the waiting rooms of Henry Heywood Hospital in > Gardner. Someone had > donated it to the hospital. The thing had quite a > number of knobs and > buttons on it, including at least three or four by > which one could adjust > the color, but obviously no one on the hospital > staff knew what to do with > them. Poor Merv was as green as a Martian. > > -Doug > > > > > > Peter Q. George (K1XRB) Whitman, Massachusetts "Scanning the bands since 1967" radiojunkie1@yahoo.com radiojunkie3@yahoo.com *********************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From me@billoneill.us Sat May 5 12:24:12 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 12:24:12 -0400 Subject: Don Imus Sues CBS In-Reply-To: References: <463BA30A.6060001@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <463CAFAC.8070105@billoneill.us> David Tomm wrote: > I believe the two sides will settle and CBS will have to pony up most > of the money owed to him. I think he's going for triple damages. That will enable a cushion in settlement so that Imus gets his full boat and his attorney gets to eat another day, as well. CBS blew this one big-time. Where Imus' star may have been drifting to nova, this event has clearly energized the franchise. Bill O'Neill From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat May 5 15:03:12 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 15:03:12 -0400 Subject: A fun trivia question References: <0ED4FCF5.310DAF72.0CE337EB@aol.com> Message-ID: <002501c78f48$0b4a8980$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Mac Richmond didn't invent the phrase "color radio" by a longshot. I went to college in New York's Capital District from September 1952 to May 1956. Around 1954, WTRY Troy was sold to a group from Providence RI that already owned WEAN there. WTRY promptly dropped the enormously popular and profitable CBS Radio affiliation for Albany-Schenectady-Troy and became an independent station. Even before then, they staged a BIG promotion "WTRY is now broadcasting in Color Radio." I think the only new equipment the station bought were some new cartridges for the turntables. (I guess they also had to buy kits to add the 45-RPM speed to the 33-1/3-78 RPM tables because the Color Eadio promotion more-or-less coincided with the record industry shift to 45 RPM.) As at WMEX some four years later, the Color Radio promotion was PURE unadulterated hype, but it was just as successful in the Capital District as it was here. Everybody was talking about it and the phones at the station rang off the hook with listeners calling to tell them how much they appreciated the station's great "new" sound. I also doubt whether WTRY was the first station to promote Color Radio. Randy English, the PD at WTRY, and Mac Richmond both read the trade publications assiduously and they knew a winning promotion when they heard about it. I wonder how many US and Canadian stations promoted Color Radio. I'd guess hundreds--maybe thousands. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 12:50 PM Subject: Re: A fun trivia question > Doug Drown wrote: > > What was the first time you ever > > saw a color telecast? > --------------------------------- > The first time I ever HEARD a color broadcast was: > 1957/58, "WMEX 1510, Color Radio". > Remember that? > Mac Richmond was always on top of the latest fad in popularity and took > advantage of it and promoted it to the hilt. Why NOT color RADIO?!! > -Sonny Daye > > . > > ___________________________________________________________ > Sent by ePrompter, the premier email notification software. > Free download at http://www.ePrompter.com. From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat May 5 14:03:36 2007 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Dan Billings) Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 14:03:36 -0400 Subject: Clear Channel sells Maine stations Message-ID: <157CA747434148A1A34F2CADDEFE5D1A@DanBillingsPC> WRKD, WMCM and WQSS to move offices back to Rockland All Clear Channel radio stations in Maine, including Rockland's WRKD and WMCM, Camden's WQSS and Boothbay Harbor's WCME, are being sold to a Florida-based communications company. Dean Goodman of GoodRadio.TV LLC confirmed Thursday that, pending FCC approval, his company will acquire the radio stations Clear Channel Communications Inc. owns statewide. http://www.mainecoastnow.com/articles/2007/05/05/courier_-_gazette/local_news/doc463cb629ad45d514993554.txt Does anyone know anything about the buyer? From gjspatola@wavecable.com Sat May 5 18:56:50 2007 From: gjspatola@wavecable.com (Glenn and Judy Spatola) Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 15:56:50 -0700 Subject: Mass.Broadcast Hall of Fame [Harold Segal] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DEF308EBA424491849104229CE1A63D@HomePC> Harold Segal was owner of WNEB in Worcester when I worked there 1979-81, but I know very little about him. Can anyone tell me what other stations he owned, and possibly share more background about him? Glenn Spatola > Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 07:43:59 -0300 > From: "Roger Kolakowski" > Subject: Re: Mass.Broadcast Hall of Fame > To: , > > Message-ID: <003d01c78e39$1fad9c60$0200a8c0@Tanguray> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Was it Rex Trailer that used to promote cruises he would be on? Did anyone > actually go on a cruise to be with him? > > "Inquiring Minds Want to Know" ;-) > > Roger > WA1KAT > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 8:31 AM > Subject: Mass.Broadcast Hall of Fame > > >> as noted on AllAccess dot com NetNews - >> >> The inaugural class for the MASSACHUSETTS BROADCASTERS HALL OF FAME is >> being honored in events on SATURDAY (5/5) in BROCKTON, MA and on MAY >> 16 at RANDOLPH, MA. The HALL has been formed by a group of present and >> former broadcasters in conjunction with MASSASOIT COMMUNITY COLLEGE. >> >> The Hall of Famers to be honored at the BROCKTON event include >> longtime WHDH-A/BOSTON morning man JESS CAIN, comedy legends BOB AND >> RAY (who started at WHDH), and children's TV host REX TRAILER. The MAY >> 16 honorees include longtime BOSTON media personality (and syndicated >> TV "BOZO THE CLOWN") FRANK AVRUCH, BOSTON radio (WEEI-A, WRKO-A, WHDH- >> A) and TV (WNAC-TV) talker PAUL BENZAQUIN, former WBZ-TV-AM >> personality (and now "DANCING WITH THE STARS"/"AMERICA'S FUNNIEST HOME >> VIDEOS" host) TOM BERGERON, former WHDH-A host FRED B. COLE, WBZ-AM & >> TV weatherman DON KENT, WBZ-TV entertainment reporter JOYCE KULHAWIK, >> station owner HAROLD SEGAL, WBZ-TV anchor-host LIZ WALKER, and BOSTON >> BRUINS voice BOB WILSON. >> >> kudos to all for some well-deserved recognition! >> >> - -chuck igo From hykker@wildblue.net Sat May 5 19:06:50 2007 From: hykker@wildblue.net (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 19:06:50 -0400 Subject: A fun trivia question In-Reply-To: <002501c78f48$0b4a8980$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <0ED4FCF5.310DAF72.0CE337EB@aol.com> <002501c78f48$0b4a8980$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <20070505230702.2489436D149@mail.wildblue.net> Dan Strassberg wrote: >i Even before then, they staged a BIG promotion "WTRY is >now broadcasting in Color Radio." I think the only new equipment the station >bought were some new cartridges for the turntables. (I guess they also had >to buy kits to add the 45-RPM speed to the 33-1/3-78 RPM tables because the >Color Eadio promotion more-or-less coincided with the record industry shift >to 45 RPM.) I once worked P/t at a station that had these big 16" Gates turntables that were designed to be 33 & 78. In order to play 45s you had to line up one of 2 holes in the platter with the motor shaft, and drop a small bushing onto it. It took 10-15 seconds to do...woe was you if you dropped the bushing into the turntable base. There was no smooth way to get out of it if you happened to start a record at the wrong speed. >I wonder how many US and >Canadian stations promoted Color Radio. I'd guess hundreds--maybe thousands. Thousands might be a stretch...other than WMEX I don't think I ever heard the phrase anywhere else, though by the time I got into radio it was the early 60s & the fad may have ended.by then. Just goes to show that copycat stations are nothing new. From paulconnors@earthlink.net Sat May 5 20:25:03 2007 From: paulconnors@earthlink.net (Paul Connors) Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 20:25:03 -0400 Subject: Mass.Broadcast Hall of Fame [Harold Segal] Message-ID: <380-220075060253829@earthlink.net> WNEB was my first commercial radio job. I was there as "Paul Stevens" from December 1976 until February 1979. Harold Segal bought the station around 1978, as I recall. He used to own another station as well. I think it was WKBK in Keene, NH. Harold served as General Manager and was also very involved with sales promotions and programming. He would often go on the air on Skip Qulillia's nightly talk show and take calls from listeners, especially when he was planning programming changes, to find out what folks thought of his ideas. > [Original Message] > From: Glenn and Judy Spatola > To: > Date: 5/5/2007 6:57:42 PM > Subject: Re: Mass.Broadcast Hall of Fame [Harold Segal] > > Harold Segal was owner of WNEB in Worcester when I worked there 1979-81, but > I know very little about him. Can anyone tell me what other stations he > owned, and possibly share more background about him? > > > Glenn Spatola From lglavin@mail.com Sat May 5 14:31:57 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 13:31:57 -0500 Subject: WLLH-AM Lawrence Facility To Remain Silent For A While Message-ID: <20070505183158.739761F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Just to remind readers who may not be aware of the WLLH-AM "synchronous" operation: the aforementioned station operates on 1400 khz with antennas in both Lowell and Lawrence, the former the actual licensed operation, the latter a 60-or-so-year-experiment. Recently both outlets were off the air briefly, then WLLH-AM Lowell only resumed transmitting. At this moment WLLH's Lawrence transmitter is still silent and apparently will be for a couple of weeks...partly due to a transmitter strike and ageing equipment. A complete summary by CE Chris Hall can be found at radio-info.com's Northern New England board under the heading "WAMG Doing Tranmitter Work? Its Effect on WGAM". = Gaint Inflatable Advertising Custom inflatables, promotion tours, product replicas and branded games. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=bff472ef0b2aa0b66c722dbf77bbc306 From wollman@bostonradio.org Sat May 5 21:24:37 2007 From: wollman@bostonradio.org (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 21:24:37 -0400 Subject: IBOC not entirely useless after all.... Message-ID: <17981.11861.497466.424102@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> This afternoon I went down to You Blew It! and picked up a Sangean HDT-1 to add to my home listening post. Some observations, using only the supplied antennas: 1) The HDT-1 does do RD(B)S, although this feature is not advertised. >From a distance, it's hard to tell the difference between HD PAD and RDS, except that there's no HD equivalent (yet) of "scrolling PS". 2) It thinks WSRS is KAAJ. The only other Worcester station to come in with decent signal quality is WAAF. 3) I was able to get most, but not all, of the VHF-HD signals I know about. MW reception, both analogue and digital, with the provided 3-inch plastic loop was very poor, and the receiver was not able to get a lock on WBZ's digital signal (