From brian_vita@cssinc.com Thu Mar 1 00:51:26 2007 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:51:26 -0500 Subject: A Broadcast TV License May Be Worth Something After All In-Reply-To: <000f01c75ab7$a339fcf0$6701a8c0@DAS8200> References: <20070227184232.BD02E55936@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> <000f01c75ab7$a339fcf0$6701a8c0@DAS8200> Message-ID: <002701c75bc5$a728eab0$690fa8c0@BrianVaio> Sure. Without the HD pix, the overall quality isn't worth buying the more expensive set. I'm just waiting for Comcast to expand the offerrings. Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 +1-978-538-7575 +1-978-538-7550 Fax www.cssinc.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Lou [mailto:lspin@comcast.net] > Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 4:39 PM > To: 'Ric Werme'; 'Brian Vita' > Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > Subject: RE: A Broadcast TV License May Be Worth Something After All > > I was watching/recording the Chronicle Show from SDTV and saw > the weird block-pixelation, too. But I didn't think it was > all that distracting from the program content. > > I've just purchased my first HDTV this week (the Sony 40" > 720p LCD), and was planning to sign up for Comcast HD. > Should I assume from the comments here that it's still worth > the sign-up and monthly charge? > > Thanks, > -Lou > > > -----Original Message----- > Interesting, I saw exactly the same pixelation and echoing > sound early into the program. I tried stopping the DVR > recording, because I think the settop box frequently gets > overloaded and really fouls up the live rewind/fast forward > functions. (It doesn't lose them, it just takes 15 seconds to process > each.) Never heard that echoing (repeating 100+/- msec > chunks of audio content for a few seconds) before. > > I have Comcast in Boscawen NH. Either a Comcast issue or > perhaps WCVB was sending bad signal. Did any HD viewers > _not_ see the problem? > > -Ric Werme > > > From joe@attorneyross.com Thu Mar 1 00:53:27 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:53:27 -0500 Subject: AM Radio Coverage In-Reply-To: <380-22007232822147311@M2W021.mail2web.com> References: <380-22007232822147311@M2W021.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <45E62407.22994.536330@joe.attorneyross.com> On 28 Feb 2007 at 17:14, w1mnk@tampabay.rr.com wrote: > I remember that when we lived in Portugal, in the mid to late 1950's, > my Dad would listen to WABC during the evening. He wanted to listen to > WBZ, but couldn't because of the cardiod (sp?) pattern of BZ which > sent most of the signal west. Are my recollections faulty? So if they can get US stations in Europe, howcome we don't get European stations in the US (on medium wave, that is)? I do remember hearing Trans World Radio, on Bonaire Island now and then in the Netherlands Antilles (off the coast of Venezuela) at 800 kHz. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From elipolo@earthlink.net Thu Mar 1 03:03:33 2007 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 03:03:33 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: FM pirates Message-ID: <16721557.1172736213181.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > From: "Jeff Lehmann" > To: , > > Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:37:48 -0500 > Subject: RE: FM pirates > > The middle eastern 88.5 is actually not Cambridge. I found it on > on Sunday, it's not far from Fox 25's studios in Dedham. That sounds about right. I could tell that the Middle Eastern one is transmitting from somewhere west (or southwest) of Boston because it came in when I was in Newton, but I lose it going into Brighton heading toward Boston. It also transmits in mono. > 91.3 Bel Mizik FM has a super signal, although suffering interference > from 91.5 WMFO Medford along I-93 from the deck to Roosevelt > Circle, the signal reaches as far north as Andover/Tewksbury on I-93 Actually, Bel Mizik has been causing interference to WMFO in much of the area where their signal can normally be heard, albeit weakly such as Cambridge, Allston/Brighton, parts of Boston, and even where I live on the south facing side of a hill in Somerville (facing toward Boston, away from Medford). I've notified WMFO personnel to tell them that they should file a complaint with the FCC. > 88.5 is a pirate graveyard with the Boston Caribbean/Haitian station, > Middle Eastern (presumed R.Free Cambridge), and "Off-Coast" rock > all heard this week It's "Off-Coast" which is the decendent of "Radio Free Cambridge", not the Middle Eastern one described above. "Radio Free Cambridge" used to transmit from the Zeitgeist Gallery in Inman Square which, along with the pirate station broadcasting from there, shut down about a year ago. I've heard that one of the people involved had brought the radio equipment home, and is broadcasting as "Off-Coast Radio" from somewhere in the Somerville/Cambridge area. Eli Polonsky From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Mar 1 05:21:29 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 05:21:29 -0500 Subject: AM Radio Coverage Message-ID: <20070301102130.5F09C83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> >>So if they can get US stations in Europe, howcome we don't get European stations in the US (on medium wave, that is)? I used to pick up the BBC at what sounded like 640 kHz sometimes late on a Sunday night...on a clock radio with an analog dial btw Europe has 9 kHz spacing doesn't it? You might have something like "1248 kHz". A Walkman I recently got allowed you to set it to the 9 kHz spacing (and at one point I accidentally set it that way but after I took the battery out and tried again, it was back to 10 kHz spacing: 530, 540 et al) From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Mar 1 05:30:10 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 05:30:10 -0500 Subject: Mystery Top Loaded, Low Frequency tower, in Hamilton, Mass Message-ID: <20070301103010.1B91683BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Yes, the Hamilton building in question is 227 Willow St., I believe. I used to do an all Kinks show briefly (Sunday nights at 11 pm) on WNSH around 1992 or so. Willow St. was parallel to Rt 1-A. The WNSH studios were on the second floor of a hardware warehouse. Prior to that they were indeed at Pickering Wharf (next to the Chase House). After Hamilton, they moved to one Endicott College building (on the left side of the access road) then later moved to the college union building (right side of access road, a bit further up). After that, Keating's barn I believe (just off Rt 1-A in Hamilton) and I think he has moved the studio yet again! Scott said: >>>I do believe this was where WNSH went after it lost its original Danvers site, near the mall. The studios first went to a wharf in Salem (I think it was Salem), and for a while the studios and transmitter were in that building in Hamilton. I think the studios were up on the second floor. Keating Willcox surely can take the story from there, as I believe he was the one who then moved WNSH to Endicott College, where its transmitter now sits. s From markwa1ion@aol.com Thu Mar 1 10:47:38 2007 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (markwa1ion@aol.com) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:47:38 -0500 Subject: AM Radio Coverage Message-ID: <8C92A3012AF5D4E-7BC-3CFC@FWM-D31.sysops.aol.com> WBZ does better the farther north you go in Europe. In southern Europe, 1030 is more apt to be dominated by stations from Argentina and Brazil (and splatter from Spain on 1026 and Portugal on 1035). I heard WBZ OK just before local dawn in western Ireland in 1977 on a cheap Realistic 12-655 portable, but it was not as good as Boston's 850 and 1510 and maybe just comparable to 680 and 1260. Since 1510 went fulltime 50 kW, they have often been the best US station heard in western Europe. New York City 50 kW'ers sited on island (660, 880) or salt-marsh sites also do well there. Local dawn in Europe, with interference from the east fading, is the best time to hear US and Canada stations. You can most certainly receive European stations in the US, but any kind of consistent reception requires several "ducks" being lined up: * Favorable ionospheric propagation (low geomagnetic activity / A & K indices). * Good timing: local sunset here is often best and Euro-dawn (around midnight here) can also be good. * Directive receiving antenna, ideally a system forming a cardioid nulling west or southwest (see the Flag antenna info at "http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx/antenna/loop/flag/index.html" for examples). A loop and whip combination with a phasing unit has been used successfully for a cardioid-producing set-up that can be operated on top of a stationary vehicle at optimum receiving sites (an activity known as "DXpeditioning"). * Communications-type receiver with several narrow IF bandwidths from 1.8 to 4 kHz - examples: Drake R8B, AOR 7030+, Icom R75, WinRadio G313i * Good location: seashore is best, a hilltop or an open marshy area can do reasonably well inland; a sufficient separation from transmitters, power lines, other potential interference sources is advised. Some hill or building blockage in directions you DON'T want to hear (e.g. west) can also help in reducing interference. * A bit of knowledge on what the targets are helps. The European-African Medium Wave Guide ("http://go.to/emwg") is pretty much the "bible" on the subject and the World Radio-TV Handbook, available in most bookshops, is also very useful. Membership in a club like the National Radio Club ("http://www.nrcdxas.org/") is just the thing for folks who take this aspect of radio seriously. A local group, the Boston Area DXers, meets in Stoneham once a month; see "http://www.naswa.net/badx/index.htm". The group's interests include AM, FM, shortwave listening, and ham radio. One must remember that European stations transmit on channels that are a multiple of 9 kHz, rather than 10 kHz. In some cases the separation is only 1 kHz (like UK on 1089 vs. WBAL on 1090), hence the need for tight filters in receivers. Occasionally a transatlantic signal will get strong enough to overwhelm a domestic on a simple radio. More than a few times on the car radio I've heard Algeria - 549 taking out the 550's and Saudi Arabia - 1521 destroying WIZZ/WWKB-1520 when going down Wharf Road onto Granite Pier in Rockport around sundown. For sample reports showing the typical European, African, and Middle Eastern signals that have been received in this area, see "http://home.comcast.net/~dx_lab/dx_clams_2005.htm" and "http://www.naswa.net/badx/dxclams.htm". Some audio clips are available from links at "http://home.comcast.net/~markwa1ion/dx_audio.htm". You might be surprised at how loud some of the transatlantic AM's come in here in Massachusetts, even at inland sites such as Sudbury. Mark Connelly, WA1ION - Billerica, MA << From: joe@attorneyross.com To: w1mnk@tampabay.rr.com Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: AM Radio Coverage Date: On 28 Feb 2007 at 17:14, w1mnk@tampabay.rr.com wrote: > I remember that when we lived in Portugal, in the mid to late 1950's, > my Dad would listen to WABC during the evening. He wanted to listen to > WBZ, but couldn't because of the cardiod (sp?) pattern of BZ which > sent most of the signal west. Are my recollections faulty? So if they can get US stations in Europe, howcome we don't get European stations in the US (on medium wave, that is)? >> ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. From readaaron@friedbagels.com Thu Mar 1 11:20:07 2007 From: readaaron@friedbagels.com (Aaron Read) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:20:07 -0500 Subject: AM Stereo? Message-ID: <45E6FD37.8010609@friedbagels.com> Does anyone know who, besides WJIB 740, still broadcasts in AM Stereo in the Boston area? -- -------------------------- Aaron Read readaaron@friedbagels.com Boston, MA 02446-2204 From revdoug1@verizon.net Thu Mar 1 13:38:45 2007 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:38:45 -0500 Subject: AM Stereo? References: <45E6FD37.8010609@friedbagels.com> Message-ID: <001b01c75c30$d9c35030$6501a8c0@pastor2> Doesn't WBZ? -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Read" To: Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: AM Stereo? > Does anyone know who, besides WJIB 740, still broadcasts in AM Stereo in > the Boston area? > > -- > > > -------------------------- > Aaron Read > readaaron@friedbagels.com > Boston, MA 02446-2204 > > > > From wollman@csail.mit.edu Thu Mar 1 14:49:20 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:49:20 -0500 Subject: AM Stereo? In-Reply-To: <001b01c75c30$d9c35030$6501a8c0@pastor2> References: <45E6FD37.8010609@friedbagels.com> <001b01c75c30$d9c35030$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <17895.11840.986809.792479@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > Doesn't WBZ? Not since they went IBOC -- the two are incompatible. The nearest station other than WJIB that I know for certain still runs AM stereo (at least as of last Christmas) is WICC. -GAWollman From mailinglists2005@hotmail.com Thu Mar 1 15:07:28 2007 From: mailinglists2005@hotmail.com (Mike Malone) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:07:28 -0500 Subject: AM Radio Coverage In-Reply-To: <20070301102130.5F09C83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: I was in Germany last over Christmas and can confirm the BBC broadcasts at 648 kHz. As a side note years ago (circa 1985) when I was a newscaster on WTAG, I seem to remember the station getting a reception report along with an air check of the station being received somewhere in the UK. -Mike >From: "Bob Nelson" >To: "A. Joseph Ross" , "BostonRadio Mailing >List" >Subject: Re: AM Radio Coverage >Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 05:21:29 -0500 > > >>So if they can get US stations in Europe, howcome we don't get >European stations in the US (on medium wave, that is)? > >I used to pick up the BBC at what sounded like 640 kHz sometimes late >on a Sunday night...on a clock radio with an analog dial > >btw Europe has 9 kHz spacing doesn't it? You might have something like >"1248 kHz". A Walkman I recently got allowed you to set it to the >9 kHz spacing (and at one point I accidentally set it that way >but after I took the battery out and tried again, it was back >to 10 kHz spacing: 530, 540 et al) > > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t miss your chance to WIN 10 hours of private jet travel from Microsoft? Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0540002499mrt/direct/01/ From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Mar 1 16:08:15 2007 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:08:15 -0500 Subject: AM Radio Coverage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000d01c75c45$c014b5b0$7f151bac@WHDHXP237> -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Mike Malone Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 3:07 PM To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Subject: Re: AM Radio Coverage I was in Germany last over Christmas and can confirm the BBC broadcasts at 648 kHz. I believe they broadcast on that frequency (and others) from multiple transmitter sites which are synchronous. I wonder how that effects reception at long distances? From wollman@csail.mit.edu Thu Mar 1 16:32:08 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:32:08 -0500 Subject: AM Radio Coverage In-Reply-To: References: <20070301102130.5F09C83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <17895.18008.685739.871164@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I was in Germany last over Christmas and can confirm the BBC broadcasts at > 648 kHz. The World Service for Central Europe is on 648, yes. It's a five-tower in-line array (unusual for the UK) in Ordfordness, Suffolk. The site is shared with the Dutch station Radio Nationaal on 1296 (which has an even-more-unusual six-tower array). Historically, if my old WRTHes are to be believed, the World Service used both transmitters: 648 during the day and 1296 at night. (It seems not impossible that the same towers might have been used for both.) -GAWollman From readaaron@friedbagels.com Thu Mar 1 15:48:00 2007 From: readaaron@friedbagels.com (Aaron Read) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:48:00 -0500 Subject: AM Stereo? In-Reply-To: <001b01c75c30$d9c35030$6501a8c0@pastor2> References: <45E6FD37.8010609@friedbagels.com> <001b01c75c30$d9c35030$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <45E73C00.7060005@friedbagels.com> Nope. You can't broadcast AM Stereo *and* IBOC at the same time. The physics of the iBiquity system don't allow for it.*** I remember asking Mark Manuelian about this a while ago...not long after they'd installed IBOC on the main. He said they had three transmitters: a main and backup in Hull, and a third in Allston. At one time both the Hull xmitters could do AM Stereo, but after IBOC was installed only the backup Hull xmitter still could. The Allston xmitter doesn't have AM stereo at all. So if you hear AM Stereo on WBZ, it means they're running on the backup xmitter from Hull. Speaking of IBOC...I just got a receiver finally, and listening IBOC on WMKI, WXKS and WBZ...I swear WBZ's IBOC audio doesn't sound as good; the compression artifacts seem more noticeable. I wonder if that's a limitation of voice audio (instead of music) through the HDR codec, or a reflection of how WBZ's IBOC was one of the first out of the gate and it hasn't been updated? Or maybe I'm just imagining it. - Aaron *** Which should prove interesting for expanded band stations that try to upgrade to IBOC, since technically the rules (still) state that they must broadcast in AM Stereo. However, that rule is oft-ignored, I'm told. Much like the rule that EX-AM stations are supposed to take their old signals dark after five years...grumble grumble... -------------------------- Aaron Read readaaron@friedbagels.com Boston, MA 02446-2204 Doug Drown wrote: > Doesn't WBZ? > > -Doug > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Aaron Read" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:20 AM > Subject: AM Stereo? > > >> Does anyone know who, besides WJIB 740, still broadcasts in AM Stereo in >> the Boston area? >> >> -- >> >> >> -------------------------- >> Aaron Read >> readaaron@friedbagels.com >> Boston, MA 02446-2204 >> >> >> >> > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Mar 1 17:11:31 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:11:31 -0500 Subject: AM Stereo? References: <45E6FD37.8010609@friedbagels.com><001b01c75c30$d9c35030$6501a8c0@pastor2> <45E73C00.7060005@friedbagels.com> Message-ID: <002601c75c4f$0a47d500$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I've heard from at least one person that the CODEC used for the AM version of HD sounds much better with music than with speech. I suspect that that comment was based on listening experiences like yours. If 1430 were still running talk or if WILD were still running HD (or should that now read just "still running"? I haven't checked today to see if WILD is still on) you'd have one or two meaningful data points, but Rumba is mostly music, so 1430 doesn't provide much of a data point. After I send this message, I'll check to see if 1090 is still on. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Read" To: "Doug Drown" Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 3:48 PM Subject: Re: AM Stereo? > Nope. You can't broadcast AM Stereo *and* IBOC at the same time. The > physics of the iBiquity system don't allow for it.*** > > I remember asking Mark Manuelian about this a while ago...not long after > they'd installed IBOC on the main. He said they had three transmitters: > a main and backup in Hull, and a third in Allston. At one time both the > Hull xmitters could do AM Stereo, but after IBOC was installed only the > backup Hull xmitter still could. The Allston xmitter doesn't have AM > stereo at all. So if you hear AM Stereo on WBZ, it means they're > running on the backup xmitter from Hull. > > Speaking of IBOC...I just got a receiver finally, and listening IBOC on > WMKI, WXKS and WBZ...I swear WBZ's IBOC audio doesn't sound as good; the > compression artifacts seem more noticeable. I wonder if that's a > limitation of voice audio (instead of music) through the HDR codec, or a > reflection of how WBZ's IBOC was one of the first out of the gate and it > hasn't been updated? Or maybe I'm just imagining it. > > - Aaron > > *** Which should prove interesting for expanded band stations that try > to upgrade to IBOC, since technically the rules (still) state that they > must broadcast in AM Stereo. However, that rule is oft-ignored, I'm > told. Much like the rule that EX-AM stations are supposed to take their > old signals dark after five years...grumble grumble... > > -------------------------- > Aaron Read > readaaron@friedbagels.com > Boston, MA 02446-2204 > > > > > > Doug Drown wrote: > > Doesn't WBZ? > > > > -Doug > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Aaron Read" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:20 AM > > Subject: AM Stereo? > > > > > >> Does anyone know who, besides WJIB 740, still broadcasts in AM Stereo in > >> the Boston area? > >> > >> -- > >> > >> > >> -------------------------- > >> Aaron Read > >> readaaron@friedbagels.com > >> Boston, MA 02446-2204 > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > From brscomm@charter.net Thu Mar 1 18:50:44 2007 From: brscomm@charter.net (Bill Smith) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:50:44 -0600 Subject: AM Radio Coverage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001601c75c5c$6db69f60$6701a8c0@wesels> This would be the site. It's used by the BBC World Service. http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/orfordness.asp Bill > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio- > interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Mike Malone > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 2:07 PM > To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > Subject: Re: AM Radio Coverage > > I was in Germany last over Christmas and can confirm the BBC broadcasts at > 648 kHz. > > As a side note years ago (circa 1985) when I was a newscaster on WTAG, I > seem to remember the station getting a reception report along with an air > check of the station being received somewhere in the UK. > > -Mike > > > >From: "Bob Nelson" > >To: "A. Joseph Ross" , "BostonRadio Mailing > >List" > >Subject: Re: AM Radio Coverage > >Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 05:21:29 -0500 > > > > >>So if they can get US stations in Europe, howcome we don't get > >European stations in the US (on medium wave, that is)? > > > >I used to pick up the BBC at what sounded like 640 kHz sometimes late > >on a Sunday night...on a clock radio with an analog dial > > > >btw Europe has 9 kHz spacing doesn't it? You might have something like > >"1248 kHz". A Walkman I recently got allowed you to set it to the > >9 kHz spacing (and at one point I accidentally set it that way > >but after I took the battery out and tried again, it was back > >to 10 kHz spacing: 530, 540 et al) > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don't miss your chance to WIN 10 hours of private jet travel from MicrosoftR > Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0540002499mrt/direct/01/ From revdoug1@verizon.net Fri Mar 2 10:03:39 2007 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:03:39 -0500 Subject: "Whatever Became of . . .?" Dep't. Message-ID: <00c201c75cdb$f6a992d0$6501a8c0@pastor2> I've been hearing Rod Fritz's welcome voice of late on Fox Radio newscasts, and am wondering what has become of Paul Tuthill, also part of the recent WRKO fallout. I heard Paul for years on WTAG before he moved over to 'RKO. Is he still in the area? -Doug From mailinglists2005@hotmail.com Fri Mar 2 11:27:29 2007 From: mailinglists2005@hotmail.com (Mike Malone) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 11:27:29 -0500 Subject: "Whatever Became of . . .?" Dep't. In-Reply-To: <00c201c75cdb$f6a992d0$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: I heard Paul on WAMC last week. Don't know whether it was just stringing or if he is on the staff out there now. -Mike >From: "Doug Drown" >Reply-To: Doug Drown >To: "Boston Radio Interest >Board" >Subject: "Whatever Became of . . .?" Dep't. >Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:03:39 -0500 > >I've been hearing Rod Fritz's welcome voice of late on Fox Radio newscasts, >and am wondering what has become of Paul Tuthill, also part of the recent >WRKO fallout. I heard Paul for years on WTAG before he moved over to 'RKO. >Is he still in the area? > >-Doug > _________________________________________________________________ Find what you need at prices you?ll love. Compare products and save at MSN? Shopping. http://shopping.msn.com/default/shp/?ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24102&tcode=T001MSN20A0701 From dbradio@yahoo.com Fri Mar 2 11:48:40 2007 From: dbradio@yahoo.com (Dan Bourret) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:48:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: A Broadcast TV License May Be Worth Something After All Message-ID: <763800.37191.qm@web60614.mail.yahoo.com> I recorded both the Standard Def and HD broadcast and the HD did indeed have the pixellation that others were referring to. I did record both versions onto a single DVD. If anyone is interested in a copy of the DVD, please email me (off list) and you can compare the Standard broadcast vs the HD one (so long as I am not breaking any copyright infringement laws buy providing a DVD recording at no charge??). Thanks, Dan ----- Original Message ---- From: Stephanie Weil To: John Mullaney Cc: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:01:56 AM Subject: RE: A Broadcast TV License May Be Worth Something After All On Wed, February 28, 2007 07:03, John Mullaney wrote: > > I sometimes get pixellation and choppy sound on a regular show on analog Probably because whatever the feed to the cable company is digital. Or the source that the shows are recorded on. This kind of thing never happened when the whole air-chain (or cable-chain in this case) was analog. The worst I remember seeing was sometimes a crinkled videotape showing lines on screen. But it wasn't as bad as the picture stuttering to a halt and then the sound continuing for a bit more before the video caught up. steph ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather From Joe@attorneyross.com Fri Mar 2 12:30:42 2007 From: Joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 12:30:42 -0500 Subject: A Broadcast TV License May Be Worth Something After All In-Reply-To: <763800.37191.qm@web60614.mail.yahoo.com> References: <763800.37191.qm@web60614.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <45E818F2.3656.2DB6E4@Joe.attorneyross.com> On 2 Mar 2007 Dan Bourret wrote: > I recorded both the Standard Def and HD broadcast and the HD did > indeed have the pixellation that others were referring to. I did > record both versions onto a single DVD. If anyone is interested in a > copy of the DVD, please email me (off list) and you can compare the > Standard broadcast vs the HD one (so long as I am not breaking any > copyright infringement laws buy providing a DVD recording at no > charge??). Hey, remember when "standard broadcast" meant the AM broadcast band? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax: 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From markwa1ion@aol.com Fri Mar 2 13:00:33 2007 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (markwa1ion@aol.com) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:00:33 -0500 Subject: AM Radio Coverage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C92B0BCEE8DCA4-B7C-7E28@WEBMAIL-RE17.sysops.aol.com> There is a chance that you may have heard the BBC broadcast via CBN, St. John's, Newfoundland, on 640. It is one of the CBC network stations that, for several years now, has been running broadcasts from overseas providers late at night. These include BBC as well as English-language programming from the Deutsche Welle, Radio Netherlands, and others. While the 648 Orfordness UK BBC rig has been heard in the US, it's not one of the more common catches since it beams away from us. Spain and even Saudi Arabia on 648 are comparable, or better than, UK's signal on that channel heading this way. In 1978 most European channels moved up 1 kHz in order to be exact multiples of 9. Before then, the BBC World Service rig was on 647 kHz and sited in Daventry. The pattern out of that one must have been wider, since it had a much stronger signal here in the States than present-day 648. If your receptions were before the '80s, most likely it was Daventry that you heard. I have an audio clip of this (recorded from an R-390A military receiver at Sudbury, MA in 1975) accessible from a link at "http://home.comcast.net/~markwa1ion/dx_audio.htm". Best-heard UK stations in the US now include BBC on 693, 882, and 909; TalkSport on 1053 and 1089; and Virgin Radio on 1215. The major Boston and New York stations, as well as anything from the Canadian Maritimes, are what come in the best on their side of the "pond". There are live receivers around the world you can access via the Internet ("http://www.dxtuners.com") for a fee. One night I used a receiver at a west-facing coastal site (Ilfracombe) in the UK and heard WWZN-1510 about as well as I can here in Billerica ! WBZ and WEEI were also coming in there, but weaker. WBBR-1130 NYC was almost as good as 1510. A "lowly" 5 kW station that had a knock-your-socks-off signal was WDEA-1370 Ellsworth, ME. Needless to say, the Newfies (VOCM-590 and CJYQ-930 from St. John's) were standouts. Occasionally the Brits will get good openings to the Great Lakes area and other parts of the upper midwest. When you go up to far northern Scotland, over-the-Arctic reception of stations from the Rockies and Pacific Northwest can occur. To find out about the many US and Canadian stations heard throughout Europe, the UK-based Medium Wave Circle club is undoubtedly your best source of information. See "http://www.mwcircle.org" for more detail. Mark Connelly, WA1ION - Billerica, MA << This would be the site. It's used by the BBC World Service. http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/orfordness.asp Bill > I was in Germany last over Christmas and can confirm the BBC broadcasts at > 648 kHz. > > As a side note years ago (circa 1985) when I was a newscaster on WTAG, I > seem to remember the station getting a reception report along with an air > check of the station being received somewhere in the UK. > > -Mike > > > >From: "Bob Nelson" > > >>So if they can get US stations in Europe, howcome we don't get > >European stations in the US (on medium wave, that is)? > > > >I used to pick up the BBC at what sounded like 640 kHz sometimes late > >on a Sunday night...on a clock radio with an analog dial >> ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. From elipolo@earthlink.net Fri Mar 2 13:54:27 2007 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:54:27 -0500 Subject: AM Stereo? Message-ID: > > From: Aaron Read > To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:20:07 -0500 > Subject: AM Stereo? > > Does anyone know who, besides WJIB 740, still broadcasts > in AM Stereo in the Boston area? There are no other stations still broadcasting in analog AM stereo in the area besides WJIB. The last time I was out in Worcester with an AM stereo well over a year ago, WVEI 1440 in Worcester still had their AM stereo carrier and pilot on, though a straight rebroadcast of a mono parent station (WEEI). I haven't had a chance to check more recently if that's still the case out there. > From: "Dan Strassberg" > To: "Aaron Read" , > "Boston Radio Interest" > > Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:11:31 -0500 > Subject: Re: AM Stereo? > > ... If 1430 were still running talk or if WILD were still > running HD (or should that now read just "still running"? > I haven't checked today to see if WILD is still on)... WILD is still on the air right now, but they shut off their IBOC a couple of months ago. AM HD in this area is now just WBZ, WMKI, and WXKS-AM. WBZ and WXKS-AM are in stereo on HD. I'm not sure, but I think WMKI may be running a mono feed on their HD. I'll have to listen more closely to check on that. EP From lglavin@mail.com Fri Mar 2 13:51:05 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:51:05 -0500 Subject: WTTT On Nighttime Pattern All Day Message-ID: <20070302185105.D71321F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Sometimes when there's a winter storm with sleet and heavy rains along with the snow, a radio station or two (usually AM) may wind up transmitting a weaker or even non-existent signal. So earlier in the day today (Friday 03/02) I scanned the AM dial with my radio that displays relative signal strength, and voila (a little French lingo in honor of the former Radiodiffusion Francais show once heard on WJIB) I observed that WTTT-AM 1150 registered a tiny 2.5 rather than the 3.5 that is displayed at midday. Remember this readout is relative and doesn't actually mean a 4.0 is TWICE as strong as a 2.0...in fact WTT's 2.5 this morning through 1:00 pm provides an barely listenable audio, while 3.0 is pretty strong. A quck sample of an AM station just about the same distance away and also in the same middle of the dial, WESX-AM 1230 transmitting from Marblehead with 1,000 watts output gave a reading of 3.0, so WTTT's nighttime pattern seems to direct much less than 1,000 watts NNE. The thought crossed my mind that moisture may have gotten into the phasors or something, so I checked the station that shares the transmitter building, WAZN-AM 1470, and it was at normal strength (and stronger than WTTT). I also checked an AM that transmits from nearly the same geographical area, WWZN, a short distance away in Waltham, and it was at full power. Could it be that WTTT engineers were fiddling with the equipment to make sure they were ready for the Daylight Savings time switch in 9 days? = Secure Your Data + Multi Point Video Own/Host Our Solution & Enable Real Time Video, Demos & Collaboration. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=262637aa67bf26bc8a397c9a7bc850e5 From lglavin@mail.com Fri Mar 2 14:05:59 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 14:05:59 -0500 Subject: AM Radio Coverage Message-ID: <20070302190607.B82261BF23B@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mike Malone" >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: AM Radio Coverage >Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:07:28 -0500 >As a side note years ago (circa 1985) when I was a newscaster on >WTAG, I seem to remember the station getting a reception report >along with an air check of the station being received somewhere in >the UK. >-Mike That's really remarkable considering the weak signal WTAG sends east. One day, when the 590 frequency in Boston belonged to WEEI then owned by CBS and all-news, I was driving south on the Central Artery when WEEI went off-the-air for just about 10 minutes. Instead of switching to another station like a normal person, I tuned to 580 to observe how well WTAG was coming in in Boston, and during that time the signal was barely audible at all. I'm assuming its nighttime pattern protects 590 in Boston to the same extent, so if someone in the UK can hear it at all, he or she has a REALLY super radio. = Arizona's "Homes Illustrated" Magazine Arizona real estate Web site. Search local Homes in Tucson, agents and brokers. Find new home builders, mortgage companies and more. Get your free copy of "Homes Illustrated" magazine. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=da979786268a39336387ea104cf9a98e From jjlehmann@comcast.net Fri Mar 2 15:27:21 2007 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:27:21 -0500 Subject: AM Stereo? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001501c75d09$30efcfe0$0201a8c0@DHPP0DB1> > WBZ and WXKS-AM are in stereo on HD. I'm not sure, but I > think WMKI may be running a mono feed on their HD. I'll > have to listen more closely to check on that. WMKI is in stereo, but the signal level has to be at least 4 bars to receive it in stereo on the Sangean. It usually doesn't hold steady down here in Hanson. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From revdoug1@verizon.net Fri Mar 2 16:22:18 2007 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 16:22:18 -0500 Subject: AM Radio Coverage References: <20070302190607.B82261BF23B@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <010001c75d10$dc3306e0$6501a8c0@pastor2> WTAG can't be heard much east of the 495 belt, but it certainly blankets all of Worcester, Franklin, Hillsborough, and Cheshire Counties. The signal can be heard well into New Hampshire and Vermont, as well as into the upper Pioneer Valley and a good deal of north/northeastern Connecticut. During my years as a child and young adult in the Fitchburg-Gardner-Athol area, WTAG came in as though it were next door, both day and night. Despite its null to the east and its having only 5 kw of power, WTAG covers the area it serves as effectively as any 50-kw station possibly could. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: "Mike Malone" ; Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 2:05 PM Subject: Re: AM Radio Coverage > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Mike Malone" > >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org > >Subject: Re: AM Radio Coverage > >Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:07:28 -0500 > > >As a side note years ago (circa 1985) when I was a newscaster on > >WTAG, I seem to remember the station getting a reception report > >along with an air check of the station being received somewhere in > >the UK. > >-Mike > > That's really remarkable considering the weak signal WTAG sends > east. One day, when the 590 frequency in Boston belonged > to WEEI then owned by CBS and all-news, I was driving south on the > Central Artery when WEEI went off-the-air for just about 10 minutes. > Instead of switching to another station like a normal person, I > tuned to 580 to observe how well WTAG was coming in in Boston, > and during that time the signal was barely audible at all. > I'm assuming its nighttime pattern protects 590 in Boston to > the same extent, so if someone in the UK can hear it at all, > he or she has a REALLY super radio. > > > = > Arizona's "Homes Illustrated" Magazine > Arizona real estate Web site. Search local Homes in Tucson, agents and brokers. Find new home builders, mortgage companies and more. Get your free copy of "Homes Illustrated" magazine. > http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=da979786268a39336387ea104cf9a98e > > From elipolo@earthlink.net Fri Mar 2 16:30:27 2007 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 16:30:27 -0500 Subject: AM Stereo? Message-ID: --- Jeff Lehmann wrote: > > WBZ and WXKS-AM are in stereo on HD. I'm not sure, but I > > think WMKI may be running a mono feed on their HD. I'll > > have to listen more closely to check on that. > > WMKI is in stereo, but the signal level has to be at least > 4 bars to receive it in stereo on the Sangean. It usually > doesn't hold steady down here in Hanson. I just checked on headphones. WMKI HD is actually in stereo. I'm a little bummed that the unadvertised analog C-Quam AM stereo feature on the Sangean is not wideband. It gets full stereo separation on WJIB, but with the muddy, narrowband fidelity of conventional AM mono receivers. I have to go back to my mid-1980's Sony STR-AV490 to hear WJIB in full wideband C-Quam AM stereo glory. EP From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Mar 3 11:54:46 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 11:54:46 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station Message-ID: <20070303165446.EAE2F49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Hey kids! Innovative music here from Greater Media and you'll help us program it! Only trouble is you'll need one of those expensive HD receivers to hear it. (Wouldn't think of putting it on broadcast) >>But now the Braintree-based broadcaster is looking to lure the often-neglected 18-to-24-year-old audience by asking young adults to help craft a new HD-2 station...about 90 percent of the programming would be music. The kind of music ?commercial radio won?t even touch,? she said. http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=186088 One type of music is something called "shoegaze", a "British-inspired" music where the singers like to look down at their shoes as they perform. No, that isn't an early April Fools joke. No word on whether or not GM plans to hand out $200 to each prospective listeners so they can buy the radio that will actually pick it up. From radiotony@comcast.net Sat Mar 3 11:59:40 2007 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 11:59:40 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station In-Reply-To: <20070303165446.EAE2F49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070303165446.EAE2F49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <003301c75db5$55935090$6500a8c0@tony> Hey now, I still listen to Britpop and shoegazer bands like Ride and others and I'm almost 42! At RAB2007, I attended one of the seminars which talked about the fact that radio stations were starting to do this with HD and Webcast. Anyone interested can go to my blog and read the three entries about RAB: http://politizine.blogspot.com Best, Tony Schinella -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Bob Nelson Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 11:55 AM To: BostonRadio Mailing List Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station Hey kids! Innovative music here from Greater Media and you'll help us program it! Only trouble is you'll need one of those expensive HD receivers to hear it. (Wouldn't think of putting it on broadcast) >>But now the Braintree-based broadcaster is looking to lure the often-neglected 18-to-24-year-old audience by asking young adults to help craft a new HD-2 station...about 90 percent of the programming would be music. The kind of music "commercial radio won't even touch," she said. http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=186088 One type of music is something called "shoegaze", a "British-inspired" music where the singers like to look down at their shoes as they perform. No, that isn't an early April Fools joke. No word on whether or not GM plans to hand out $200 to each prospective listeners so they can buy the radio that will actually pick it up. From scott@fybush.com Sat Mar 3 12:10:46 2007 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 12:10:46 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station In-Reply-To: <20070303165446.EAE2F49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> clamav-milter version 0.88.7 on rolinin.bostonradio.org autolearn=failed version=3.1.7 rolinin.bostonradio.org References: <20070303165446.EAE2F49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> clamav-milter version 0.88.7 on rolinin.bostonradio.org autolearn=failed version=3.1.7 rolinin.bostonradio.org Message-ID: <45E9AC16.7000200@fybush.com> Bob Nelson wrote: > Hey kids! Innovative music here from Greater Media and you'll help us > program it! Only trouble is you'll need one of those expensive HD > receivers to hear it. (Wouldn't think of putting it on broadcast) Any more than they were putting it on AM in 1968. Anybody have figures on market penetration of FM receivers in the mid-sixties? Or on what a typical FM radio would have cost, adjusted for inflation? It seems to me there's a contradiction going on here - critics of HD Radio (of which I am one, occasionally) want to argue that there's no interesting content on the new medium to drive receiver sales, then they want to turn around and criticize stations for trying to put new content on there, because nobody has a receiver. That chicken/egg thing has to get cracked somehow, and I for one give Greater a fair amount of credit for making at least some effort to do so by trying something different in its HD2 programming. I know, that's not as much fun as throwing rocks... s From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Mar 3 12:39:27 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 12:39:27 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station Message-ID: <20070303173927.9CEAB49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> >>Hey now, I still listen to Britpop and shoegazer bands like Ride and others and I'm almost 42! I'm 45 and never heard of "shoegazer" till I read that article. Feel a bit older now; I wonder if Lawrence Welk will be on NHPTV tonight? :) (I do know tonight I'm going to a folk coffeehouse up in Essex and the last one I went to, last month, had me as one of the _youngest_ guys in the audience...hoo boy) >>At RAB2007, I attended one of the seminars which talked about the fact that radio stations were starting to do this with HD and Webcast. Anyone interested can go to my blog and read the three entries about RAB: http://politizine.blogspot.com Great that they're trying something innovative, I guess. An idea for the folks at Greater Media: have an hour long show on the weekend playing some of this stuff and tell people they can hear more by getting an HD radio and tuning to the new station etc. (I wonder if they mention on their Sun morning country oldies show that WKLB's HD2 station does classic country, for those who want to hear it at other times...) From radiotony@comcast.net Sat Mar 3 12:45:25 2007 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 12:45:25 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station In-Reply-To: <20070303173927.9CEAB49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070303173927.9CEAB49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <004501c75dbb$b960e0f0$6500a8c0@tony> That's actually a good idea although I wonder if it would drive listeners away from the main channel ... Which would defeat the entire purpose. Radio is trying to build new audiences; not drive them away from main channels to secondary channels. Best, Tony Schinella -----Original Message----- From: Bob Nelson [mailto:raccoonradio@mail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 12:39 PM To: radiotony; BostonRadio Mailing List Subject: RE: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station Great that they're trying something innovative, I guess. An idea for the folks at Greater Media: have an hour long show on the weekend playing some of this stuff and tell people they can hear more by getting an HD radio and tuning to the new station etc. (I wonder if they mention on their Sun morning country oldies show that WKLB's HD2 station does classic country, for those who want to hear it at other times...) From paul@derrynh.net Sat Mar 3 14:11:39 2007 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:11:39 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station In-Reply-To: <003301c75db5$55935090$6500a8c0@tony> Message-ID: <004901c75dc7$c5ea7320$0302a8c0@YOURF7ED5FB036> How come you don't put it on 'KXL? ;-) Paul Hopfgarten Derry, New Hampshire -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of radiotony Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 12:00 PM To: 'BostonRadio Mailing List' Subject: RE: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station Hey now, I still listen to Britpop and shoegazer bands like Ride and others and I'm almost 42! At RAB2007, I attended one of the seminars which talked about the fact that radio stations were starting to do this with HD and Webcast. Anyone interested can go to my blog and read the three entries about RAB: http://politizine.blogspot.com Best, Tony Schinella -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Bob Nelson Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 11:55 AM To: BostonRadio Mailing List Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station Hey kids! Innovative music here from Greater Media and you'll help us program it! Only trouble is you'll need one of those expensive HD receivers to hear it. (Wouldn't think of putting it on broadcast) >>But now the Braintree-based broadcaster is looking to lure the often-neglected 18-to-24-year-old audience by asking young adults to help craft a new HD-2 station...about 90 percent of the programming would be music. The kind of music "commercial radio won't even touch," she said. http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=186088 One type of music is something called "shoegaze", a "British-inspired" music where the singers like to look down at their shoes as they perform. No, that isn't an early April Fools joke. No word on whether or not GM plans to hand out $200 to each prospective listeners so they can buy the radio that will actually pick it up. From radiotony@comcast.net Sat Mar 3 14:16:44 2007 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:16:44 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station In-Reply-To: <004901c75dc7$c5ea7320$0302a8c0@YOURF7ED5FB036> References: <003301c75db5$55935090$6500a8c0@tony> <004901c75dc7$c5ea7320$0302a8c0@YOURF7ED5FB036> Message-ID: <004b01c75dc8$7b11e080$6500a8c0@tony> Well, I don't own WKXL. I also won't be working much longer there either since my employment is being terminated, effective the end of March. However, if I did own an FM signal, I would consider what they are doing with the second HD signal. But as I was saying to Bob off the list, I don't think HD Radio is the future. I think wi-fi Internet radio sets are the future. Best, Tony Schinella -----Original Message----- From: Paul Hopfgarten [mailto:paul@derrynh.net] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 2:12 PM To: 'radiotony'; 'BostonRadio Mailing List' Subject: RE: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station How come you don't put it on 'KXL? ;-) Paul Hopfgarten Derry, New Hampshire -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of radiotony Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 12:00 PM To: 'BostonRadio Mailing List' Subject: RE: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station Hey now, I still listen to Britpop and shoegazer bands like Ride and others and I'm almost 42! At RAB2007, I attended one of the seminars which talked about the fact that radio stations were starting to do this with HD and Webcast. Anyone interested can go to my blog and read the three entries about RAB: http://politizine.blogspot.com Best, Tony Schinella -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Bob Nelson Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 11:55 AM To: BostonRadio Mailing List Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station Hey kids! Innovative music here from Greater Media and you'll help us program it! Only trouble is you'll need one of those expensive HD receivers to hear it. (Wouldn't think of putting it on broadcast) >>But now the Braintree-based broadcaster is looking to lure the often-neglected 18-to-24-year-old audience by asking young adults to help craft a new HD-2 station...about 90 percent of the programming would be music. The kind of music "commercial radio won't even touch," she said. http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=186088 One type of music is something called "shoegaze", a "British-inspired" music where the singers like to look down at their shoes as they perform. No, that isn't an early April Fools joke. No word on whether or not GM plans to hand out $200 to each prospective listeners so they can buy the radio that will actually pick it up. From rogerkola@aol.com Sat Mar 3 14:49:35 2007 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:49:35 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station References: <003301c75db5$55935090$6500a8c0@tony><004901c75dc7$c5ea7320$0302a8c0@YOURF7ED5FB036> <004b01c75dc8$7b11e080$6500a8c0@tony> Message-ID: <006001c75dcd$13fd6180$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Actually that would be a great promotion for the "new channel" Tony, simulcast it on the internet along with the broadcast, the listeners can get it at home on their computers and then in their car on the new IBOC compatible radios which have become the next logical step in the process. The growth of early FM was mentioned, and the automakers became the impetus that actually moved people to that band. I just can't imagine how many knobs, buttons, presets, sliders etc. will be on the next generation of auto radios (guess we'll have to call them receivers?) and how any driver will figure out which MW,VHF,Sat Band 1, Sat Band 2,Stereo, Mono, Digital signal they want to listen to (ala 57 channels and nothings on...) Anyone notice how many words in the above note are almost out of normal use? Now to get my 60's Radio Shack FM car adaptor out to put in the glove compartment of my 67 Mustang. ;-) Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "radiotony" To: "'BostonRadio Mailing List'" Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 2:16 PM Subject: RE: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station > > Well, I don't own WKXL. I also won't be working much longer there either > since my employment is being terminated, effective the end of March. > > However, if I did own an FM signal, I would consider what they are doing > with the second HD signal. > > But as I was saying to Bob off the list, I don't think HD Radio is the > future. I think wi-fi Internet radio sets are the future. > > Best, > Tony Schinella > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Hopfgarten [mailto:paul@derrynh.net] > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 2:12 PM > To: 'radiotony'; 'BostonRadio Mailing List' > Subject: RE: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station > > How come you don't put it on 'KXL? > ;-) > > Paul Hopfgarten > Derry, New Hampshire > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of > radiotony > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 12:00 PM > To: 'BostonRadio Mailing List' > Subject: RE: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station > > > Hey now, I still listen to Britpop and shoegazer bands like Ride and others > and I'm almost 42! > At RAB2007, I attended one of the seminars which talked about the fact that > radio stations were starting to do this with HD and Webcast. > Anyone interested can go to my blog and read the three entries about RAB: > http://politizine.blogspot.com > > Best, > Tony Schinella > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of > Bob Nelson > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 11:55 AM > To: BostonRadio Mailing List > Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station > > Hey kids! Innovative music here from Greater Media and you'll help us > program it! Only trouble is you'll need one of those expensive HD receivers > to hear it. (Wouldn't think of putting it on broadcast) > > >>But now the Braintree-based broadcaster is looking to lure the > often-neglected 18-to-24-year-old audience by asking young adults to help > craft a new HD-2 station...about 90 percent of the programming would be > music. The kind of music "commercial radio won't even touch," she said. > > http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=186088 > > One type of music is something called "shoegaze", a "British-inspired" music > where the singers like to look down at their shoes as they perform. No, that > isn't an early April Fools joke. > > No word on whether or not GM plans to hand out $200 to each prospective > listeners so they can buy the radio that will actually pick it up. > > > > > > From radiotony@comcast.net Sat Mar 3 14:53:22 2007 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:53:22 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station In-Reply-To: <006001c75dcd$13fd6180$0200a8c0@Tanguray> References: <003301c75db5$55935090$6500a8c0@tony><004901c75dc7$c5ea7320$0302a8c0@YOURF7ED5FB036> <004b01c75dc8$7b11e080$6500a8c0@tony> <006001c75dcd$13fd6180$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <004d01c75dcd$993ed860$6500a8c0@tony> When a family member of mine bought an old hot rod, he took out the CB and gave it to me, because he knew I wanted to have one in the car [at the time I was commuting from NH to Mass. daily]. However, if I wanted to use it, I had to unplug the radar detector! The CB still sits in a bag in my basement, yearning for the day when it can come out again ... :-( Best, Tony Schinella -----Original Message----- From: Roger Kolakowski [mailto:rogerkola@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 2:50 PM To: radiotony; 'BostonRadio Mailing List' Subject: Re: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station Actually that would be a great promotion for the "new channel" Tony, simulcast it on the internet along with the broadcast, the listeners can get it at home on their computers and then in their car on the new IBOC compatible radios which have become the next logical step in the process. The growth of early FM was mentioned, and the automakers became the impetus that actually moved people to that band. I just can't imagine how many knobs, buttons, presets, sliders etc. will be on the next generation of auto radios (guess we'll have to call them receivers?) and how any driver will figure out which MW,VHF,Sat Band 1, Sat Band 2,Stereo, Mono, Digital signal they want to listen to (ala 57 channels and nothings on...) Anyone notice how many words in the above note are almost out of normal use? Now to get my 60's Radio Shack FM car adaptor out to put in the glove compartment of my 67 Mustang. ;-) Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "radiotony" To: "'BostonRadio Mailing List'" Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 2:16 PM Subject: RE: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station > > Well, I don't own WKXL. I also won't be working much longer there either > since my employment is being terminated, effective the end of March. > > However, if I did own an FM signal, I would consider what they are doing > with the second HD signal. > > But as I was saying to Bob off the list, I don't think HD Radio is the > future. I think wi-fi Internet radio sets are the future. > > Best, > Tony Schinella > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Hopfgarten [mailto:paul@derrynh.net] > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 2:12 PM > To: 'radiotony'; 'BostonRadio Mailing List' > Subject: RE: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station > > How come you don't put it on 'KXL? > ;-) > > Paul Hopfgarten > Derry, New Hampshire > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of > radiotony > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 12:00 PM > To: 'BostonRadio Mailing List' > Subject: RE: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station > > > Hey now, I still listen to Britpop and shoegazer bands like Ride and others > and I'm almost 42! > At RAB2007, I attended one of the seminars which talked about the fact that > radio stations were starting to do this with HD and Webcast. > Anyone interested can go to my blog and read the three entries about RAB: > http://politizine.blogspot.com > > Best, > Tony Schinella > > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of > Bob Nelson > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 11:55 AM > To: BostonRadio Mailing List > Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station > > Hey kids! Innovative music here from Greater Media and you'll help us > program it! Only trouble is you'll need one of those expensive HD receivers > to hear it. (Wouldn't think of putting it on broadcast) > > >>But now the Braintree-based broadcaster is looking to lure the > often-neglected 18-to-24-year-old audience by asking young adults to help > craft a new HD-2 station...about 90 percent of the programming would be > music. The kind of music "commercial radio won't even touch," she said. > > http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=186088 > > One type of music is something called "shoegaze", a "British-inspired" music > where the singers like to look down at their shoes as they perform. No, that > isn't an early April Fools joke. > > No word on whether or not GM plans to hand out $200 to each prospective > listeners so they can buy the radio that will actually pick it up. > > > > > > From lglavin@mail.com Sat Mar 3 15:35:39 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 15:35:39 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station Message-ID: <20070303203539.D8374478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Roger Kolakowski" >To: radiotony , "'BostonRadio Mailing List'" >Subject: Re: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station >Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:49:35 -050 >Anyone notice how many words in the above note are almost out of normal use? >Now to get my 60's Radio Shack FM car adaptor out to put in the glove >compartment of my 67 Mustang. ;-) Speaking of references to bygone technolgies, there was a humorous segment on today's (03/03) "Weekend Edition/Saturday" on NPR. From time to time they read listeners' e-mail, and they intro this segment with a musical piece featuring clickety-clack sounds behind the instrumental. A listener wrote : "what is the PERCUSSION instrument in the background of that jingle?" The host replied...that isn't a percussion instrument, it's a good old-fashioned TYPEWRITER. I surmise the questioner was under 30. = OWA Teen Adventure Camp Adventure camps for teens since 1979. Small group adventure specialty camps and expeditions in Colorado, Mexico and Bolivia. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=0abd9f4660b73b9c4049a488c69e6546 From paul@derrynh.net Sat Mar 3 16:02:16 2007 From: paul@derrynh.net (Paul Hopfgarten) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 16:02:16 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station In-Reply-To: <004b01c75dc8$7b11e080$6500a8c0@tony> Message-ID: <002101c75dd7$39ff4150$0302a8c0@YOURF7ED5FB036> Tony, I was just joking around....Sorry to hear you're losing your position. WKXL is actually a pretty good "community" station.. Paul Hopfgarten Derry, New Hampshire -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of radiotony Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 2:17 PM To: 'BostonRadio Mailing List' Subject: RE: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station Well, I don't own WKXL. I also won't be working much longer there either since my employment is being terminated, effective the end of March. However, if I did own an FM signal, I would consider what they are doing with the second HD signal. But as I was saying to Bob off the list, I don't think HD Radio is the future. I think wi-fi Internet radio sets are the future. Best, Tony Schinella -----Original Message----- From: Paul Hopfgarten [mailto:paul@derrynh.net] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 2:12 PM To: 'radiotony'; 'BostonRadio Mailing List' Subject: RE: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station How come you don't put it on 'KXL? ;-) Paul Hopfgarten Derry, New Hampshire -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of radiotony Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 12:00 PM To: 'BostonRadio Mailing List' Subject: RE: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station Hey now, I still listen to Britpop and shoegazer bands like Ride and others and I'm almost 42! At RAB2007, I attended one of the seminars which talked about the fact that radio stations were starting to do this with HD and Webcast. Anyone interested can go to my blog and read the three entries about RAB: http://politizine.blogspot.com Best, Tony Schinella -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Bob Nelson Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 11:55 AM To: BostonRadio Mailing List Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station Hey kids! Innovative music here from Greater Media and you'll help us program it! Only trouble is you'll need one of those expensive HD receivers to hear it. (Wouldn't think of putting it on broadcast) >>But now the Braintree-based broadcaster is looking to lure the often-neglected 18-to-24-year-old audience by asking young adults to help craft a new HD-2 station...about 90 percent of the programming would be music. The kind of music "commercial radio won't even touch," she said. http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=186088 One type of music is something called "shoegaze", a "British-inspired" music where the singers like to look down at their shoes as they perform. No, that isn't an early April Fools joke. No word on whether or not GM plans to hand out $200 to each prospective listeners so they can buy the radio that will actually pick it up. From kc1ih@mac.com Sat Mar 3 16:08:15 2007 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 16:08:15 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station In-Reply-To: <004501c75dbb$b960e0f0$6500a8c0@tony> References: <20070303173927.9CEAB49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> <004501c75dbb$b960e0f0$6500a8c0@tony> Message-ID: <200703032108.l23L8Il7014546@mac.com> At 12:45 PM 3/3/2007, radiotony wrote: > >That's actually a good idea although I wonder if it would drive listeners >away from the main channel ... Which would defeat the entire purpose. >Radio is trying to build new audiences; not drive them away from main >channels to secondary channels. I think they would rather have you listening to the secondary channels part of the time than having you buy satellite radio and never listen to the main channel. I think the broadcast stations will do just about anything to keep people away from satellite, that is their biggest fear. That being said I'll be getting to listen to the secondary channels myself next week, my Sangean tuner is scheduled to be delivered on Monday. If anyone's interested, Ambient Weather has them for $199.00 with free shipping http://www.ambientweather.com/sasrhdt1.html, last week when I placed my order it was on sale for $179.10 but I had to pay $10.48 for shipping, it was still a bit cheaper than getting one at You Blew It and paying sales tax. The VHF-UHF Digest (Worldwide TV-FM DX Assn.) had an excellent review if this tuner, the reviewer said the selectivity is noticeably better than a Carver TX-11, which happens to be what I'm replacing with the Sangean. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From marklaurence@mac.com Sat Mar 3 19:16:10 2007 From: marklaurence@mac.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 19:16:10 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station In-Reply-To: <20070303173927.9CEAB49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070303173927.9CEAB49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <874109EE-8DF7-493F-9B92-AA5F4634848B@mac.com> On Mar 3, 2007, at 12:39 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: >>> Hey now, I still listen to Britpop and shoegazer bands like Ride >>> and others > and I'm almost 42! > > I'm 45 and never heard of "shoegazer" till I read that article. Feel > a bit older now; I wonder if Lawrence Welk will be on NHPTV > tonight? :) This might make you feel even older...I first heard of the term "shoegazer" soon after I got my first computer with Internet connections. The group My Bloody Valentine was one of the best-known shoegazer bands. That was sometime around 1993, and I was behind the cutting-edge curve by a few years, having waited that long to learn about them. By then their CDs were pretty much available only in used CD stores (do they still have those?). The music was extremely loud and full of distortion, but slow-paced and melodic at the same time. I don't think there's ever been a real hit in that style, but I'm glad it's still around. From radiotony@comcast.net Sat Mar 3 20:07:11 2007 From: radiotony@comcast.net (radiotony) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:07:11 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station In-Reply-To: <874109EE-8DF7-493F-9B92-AA5F4634848B@mac.com> References: <20070303173927.9CEAB49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com> <874109EE-8DF7-493F-9B92-AA5F4634848B@mac.com> Message-ID: <008201c75df9$705cac70$6500a8c0@tony> Yeah, My Bloody Valentine were one of the best. "Only Shallow" and "Soon" are two of my favorite songs. I can't think of any shoegazer "hits," for lack of a better word. It was big on WFNX in the late 1980s to early 1990s. Lush had a couple of radio staples: "Sweetness and Light" and "Nothing Natural." Ride had "Vapour Trail" and "Leave Them All Behind" which were both pretty big. The "movement," if you will, was followed by Britpop - Blur, Oasis, that kinda stuff - which was a bit safer and sold a lot more records. Best, Tony Schinella -----Original Message----- From: Mark Laurence [mailto:marklaurence@mac.com] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 7:16 PM To: Bob Nelson Cc: radiotony; BostonRadio Mailing List Subject: Re: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station On Mar 3, 2007, at 12:39 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: >>> Hey now, I still listen to Britpop and shoegazer bands like Ride and >>> others > and I'm almost 42! > > I'm 45 and never heard of "shoegazer" till I read that article. Feel a > bit older now; I wonder if Lawrence Welk will be on NHPTV tonight? :) This might make you feel even older...I first heard of the term "shoegazer" soon after I got my first computer with Internet connections. The group My Bloody Valentine was one of the best-known shoegazer bands. That was sometime around 1993, and I was behind the cutting-edge curve by a few years, having waited that long to learn about them. By then their CDs were pretty much available only in used CD stores (do they still have those?). The music was extremely loud and full of distortion, but slow-paced and melodic at the same time. I don't think there's ever been a real hit in that style, but I'm glad it's still around. From hmglaz@worldnet.att.net Sat Mar 3 22:45:59 2007 From: hmglaz@worldnet.att.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 22:45:59 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station References: <20070303173927.9CEAB49B6BE@ws1-3a.us4.outblaze.com><004501c75dbb$b960e0f0$6500a8c0@tony> <200703032108.l23L8Il7014546@mac.com> Message-ID: <007101c75e0f$a008cc40$62984c0c@oemcomputer> ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Weil To: 'BostonRadio Mailing List' Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 4:08 PM Subject: RE: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station > At 12:45 PM 3/3/2007, radiotony wrote: > > > >That's actually a good idea although I wonder if it would drive listeners > >away from the main channel ... Which would defeat the entire purpose. > >Radio is trying to build new audiences; not drive them away from main > >channels to secondary channels. > > I think they would rather have you listening to the secondary > channels part of the time than having you buy satellite radio and > never listen to the main channel. I think the broadcast stations > will do just about anything to keep people away from satellite, that > is their biggest fear. > I'm listening to WDRC-FM HD-2 (Hartford) right now. The last two songs played have been Big Bopper's "Big Bopper's Wedding" and the Dixie Cups' "People Say," neither of which would ever get played on the main signal. DRC-FM has a liner they play every hour advising listeners to "check us out on HD Radio ... find out more at drcfm.com!" When you go to the Web site, you find out that you can receive something called "Big D on HD," but the rest of the blurb gives you no idea what you'll hear. And the liner played on the main signal merely tells you that you'll hear "your favorite good time rock 'n' roll like you've never heard it before" -- i.e., better audio quality -- on HD. I'm baffled. Here's a channel that actually goes DEEPER than either satellite service's '60s channel and DRC would rather promote a way to hear "Jet Airliner" and "Incense and Peppermints" and all the other oldies on DRC's daily playlist in higher-quality audio. Why? Are that many FM listeners dissatisfied with the audio quality that they're dying to plunk down $200 for a radio that promises improvements? Howard From raccoonradio@mail.com Sat Mar 3 23:02:05 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2007 23:02:05 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station Message-ID: <20070304040206.3486483BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> From: radiotony To: "'Mark Laurence'" , "'Bob Nelson'" >>Yeah, My Bloody Valentine were one of the best Yes have heard of that band and some of the others you mentioned... From rogerkola@aol.com Sun Mar 4 00:13:53 2007 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 00:13:53 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station References: <003301c75db5$55935090$6500a8c0@tony><004901c75dc7$c5ea7320$0302a8c0@YOURF7ED5FB036><004b01c75dc8$7b11e080$6500a8c0@tony> <006001c75dcd$13fd6180$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <000c01c75e1b$e74a90a0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Tony noted: But as I was saying to Bob off the list, I don't think HD Radio is the > future. I think wi-fi Internet radio sets are the future. IMHO...The future all depends on where people listen to the radio...in their homes or just in their cars while traveling. In a previous life I had the fortune to work for a local AM station with demographics of 35 - eternity. I knew the listeners were at home and could market the service as such. But with younger demos, the majority must work and have little input into their "MUSAK" during those hours. Internet "radio sets" are a marketable possibility for the "at home" demos, but if listenership has really degenerated to time in vehicle, I believe that digital on air broadcasts are the next step to the salvation of "listenership." A pity though, I'll just have to keep Part 15 rebroadcasting to feed the 25 or so tube radios in my collection ;-( Roger WA1KAT From rac@gabrielmass.com Sun Mar 4 12:52:09 2007 From: rac@gabrielmass.com (Richard Chonak) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 12:52:09 -0500 Subject: Greater Media tries to reach youth...with HD station In-Reply-To: <000c01c75e1b$e74a90a0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> References: <003301c75db5$55935090$6500a8c0@tony><004901c75dc7$c5ea7320$0302a8c0@YOURF7ED5FB036><004b01c75dc8$7b11e080$6500a8c0@tony> <006001c75dcd$13fd6180$0200a8c0@Tanguray> <000c01c75e1b$e74a90a0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <45EB0749.1050802@gabrielmass.com> > Tony noted: > > But as I was saying to Bob off the list, I don't think HD Radio is the >> future. I think wi-fi Internet radio sets are the future. They're available now for short-range (home/office) use: http://www.trustedreviews.com/multimedia/review/2006/06/03/Acoustic-Energy-Wi-Fi-Internet-Radio/p1 When WiMax rolls out and makes city-sized wi-fi hotspots available, those radios can move into cars: http://radio.about.com/od/opinionpieces/a/aa082206a.htm --RC From rogerkola@aol.com Mon Mar 5 10:17:01 2007 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:17:01 -0500 Subject: Fw: [sarex] WBZ Space Station Interview Message-ID: <001c01c75f39$53c14c60$0200a8c0@Tanguray> May be of interest to some, WBZ talks to the space Station...recorded link Roger WA1KAT SUBMITTED BY ARTHUR N1ORC - AMSAT A/C 31468 WBZ Space Station Interview: to listen to the audio portion go to: http://wbz.com/pages/8662.php? >From Boston to space WBZ's Laurie Kirby speaks exclusively with the crew of the International Space Station. During their chat, Commander Sunita Williams of Needham got a surprise call from her mother, Bonnie Pandya. In an unusual interview on WBZ radio, reporter Laurie Kirby spoke with two astronauts aboard the International Space Station. Flight Engineer Sunita Williams and Commander Michael Lopez-Alegria took a break from their science experiments to talk with WBZ. During Wednesday?s interview, the astronauts talked about various topics such as the Red Sox and space walks. During the long distance phone call Williams, a Needham native, got a chance to talk with her mother, Bonnie Pandya of Cape Cod. ?This is a little bit of a surprise but I am absolutely psyched to hear your voice.? Williams said. Williams also talked about the record number of space walks she has done. ?I believe there is a generation of explorers behind me that are going to shatter my record.? About her latest space walk she said, ?It was just amazing to be outside?watching the world go by and watching the beautiful view of our planet.? About her experience, Williams said, ?life is wonderful up here.? Also after listening to the above go to the Jordan Rich site and listen to some of his recent audio contacts ---- Originally Sent via sarex@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/sarex From rogerkola@aol.com Mon Mar 5 10:40:01 2007 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:40:01 -0500 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend Message-ID: <000b01c75f3c$8a342c60$0200a8c0@Tanguray> This should be an interesting weekend or week for the radio and TV engineers. As DST is coming early this year, and many of the electronic products not to mention Windows based computers have an automatic DST change built in for a different change-over date, technicians should be running around all week making sure they don't end up with a lost hour assuming their "network" feeds move ahead an hour Sunday morning. It could be an interesting Sunday, then again, it could be Y2K all over again... "much ado about nothing." Don't forget your TIVO, computers and VCR's at home though! Roger WA1KAT From wollman@csail.mit.edu Mon Mar 5 10:53:45 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:53:45 -0500 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend In-Reply-To: <000b01c75f3c$8a342c60$0200a8c0@Tanguray> References: <000b01c75f3c$8a342c60$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <17900.15625.482808.406977@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > This should be an interesting weekend or week for the radio and TV > engineers. As DST is coming early this year, and many of the electronic > products not to mention Windows based computers have an automatic DST change > built in for a different change-over date [...] Well, if they're correctly designed they have a *rule* for the change-over rather than a specific date (which would have to be fiddled every year). To add to the confusion, there's one county in Indiana that moved from Eastern to Central last year and is moving back to Eastern this weekend, which they will accomplish by not changing the clocks at all. (I pity the poor Windows users there....) -GAWollman From raccoonradio@mail.com Mon Mar 5 11:22:04 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 11:22:04 -0500 Subject: WTWK Burlington VT (area) moves to women's talk Message-ID: <20070305162208.0A54A83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> WTWK AM 1070 Plattsburg NY, serving the Burlington VT area as well, has shifted to the female talk network Greenstone Media that was launched by Gloria Steinem and Jane Fonda (it had been Air America/Jones progressive talk shows). Not sure if it will be lifestyle talk or political. (Here in Beverly WNSH has been running it but I haven't tuned in to see what it's like--er, not part of their demo...--though WNSH does run Laura Ingraham from Talk Radio network as well. I hear her on WTKK...) The station is now imaged as Eve 1070. Hosts include Lisa Birnbach, Rolanda (had done a TV talk show), Radio Ritas, and Women Aloud. Daytimer... http://www.wtwk1070.com From me@billoneill.us Mon Mar 5 11:38:10 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 11:38:10 -0500 Subject: WTWK Burlington VT (area) moves to women's talk In-Reply-To: <20070305162208.0A54A83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070305162208.0A54A83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <45EC4772.6000206@billoneill.us> Bob Nelson wrote: > The station is now imaged as Eve 1070. Eve? Okay, I'll skip over to my second joke. A DAYtimer called Eve? Who knew? Bill O'Neill (I'm just sayin'...) From raccoonradio@gmail.com Mon Mar 5 11:58:15 2007 From: raccoonradio@gmail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 11:58:15 -0500 Subject: WTWK Burlington VT (area) moves to women's talk In-Reply-To: <45EC4772.6000206@billoneill.us> References: <20070305162208.0A54A83BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> <45EC4772.6000206@billoneill.us> Message-ID: <1fbbbced0703050858t78e70588qa94e0fdc80b840d9@mail.gmail.com> Maybe they can do a romantic radio drama called... The Bridges of Addison County (couldn't resist! I _think_ their signal reaches Middlebury...) From eric@ericaiese.com Mon Mar 5 12:50:06 2007 From: eric@ericaiese.com (Eric Aiese) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 12:50:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend In-Reply-To: <17900.15625.482808.406977@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <17900.15625.482808.406977@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <4886.24.161.16.92.1173117006.squirrel@webmail2.pair.com> > Well, if they're correctly designed they have a *rule* for the > change-over rather than a specific date (which would have to be > fiddled every year). The problem this year is that the rule has changed -- Congress moved the changeover from April to the second week of March, so any existing formulas would derive the wrong day. On the bright side, this was announced several years ago, iirc, so recent software should be aware of it. I guess I'll be up late Saturday night to make sure we stay on the air. Eric From wollman@csail.mit.edu Mon Mar 5 13:05:41 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:05:41 -0500 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend In-Reply-To: <4886.24.161.16.92.1173117006.squirrel@webmail2.pair.com> References: <17900.15625.482808.406977@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <4886.24.161.16.92.1173117006.squirrel@webmail2.pair.com> Message-ID: <17900.23541.798740.957433@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > The problem this year is that the rule has changed -- Congress moved the > changeover from April to the second week of March, so any existing > formulas would derive the wrong day. I'm on the timezone mailing-list, so I have known about this for some time. > On the bright side, this was announced several years ago, iirc, so recent > software should be aware of it. Energy Policy Act of 2005. -GAWollman From wollman@csail.mit.edu Mon Mar 5 13:21:10 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 13:21:10 -0500 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend In-Reply-To: <17900.23541.798740.957433@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <17900.15625.482808.406977@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <4886.24.161.16.92.1173117006.squirrel@webmail2.pair.com> <17900.23541.798740.957433@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <17900.24470.242003.599376@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < Energy Policy Act of 2005. For what it's worth, this has been much more of an issue for countries outside the U.S. that have in recent times followed the U.S. rules, since each country had to decide whether or not to adopt the new dates. Some did, some didn't, and some will probably not decide until Monday. Canada is a particularly difficult case as under Canadian constitutional conventions, standard time is a provincial responsibility -- so there is separate legislation for each of the ten provinces and three territories; Nunavut was the last Canadian jurisdiction to adopt the new rules. Why Congress couldn't have adopted the EU rules I do not know. Perhaps it would have made too much sense. -GAWollman From lglavin@mail.com Mon Mar 5 13:29:32 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 13:29:32 -0500 Subject: WTWK Burlington VT (area) moves to women's talk Message-ID: <20070305182942.2D7F31CE305@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bob Nelson" >To: "Bill O'Neill" , boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: WTWK Burlington VT (area) moves to women's talk >Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 11:58:15 -0500 >Maybe they can do a romantic radio drama called... >The Bridges of Addison County >(couldn't resist! I _think_ their signal reaches Middlebury...) (With apologies to Hank Williams, Sr): their theme song could be "Your Chittendon heart will tell on you..." = HIPAA Security Services We offer custom compliance programs and solutions to acquirers, merchants and service providers to help meet the Payment Card Industry Data Security Standard. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=f1c1a07c5fabf78c9eb8fa16c51323a8 From wollman@csail.mit.edu Mon Mar 5 17:50:38 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:50:38 -0500 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend In-Reply-To: <475911.58351.qm@web58303.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <17900.24470.242003.599376@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <475911.58351.qm@web58303.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <17900.40638.787691.759798@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > ObRadio: Besides the obvious switching of power-up/power-down times, > will this affect DXing in any way, e.g. the extra hour of daylight > allows for different-than-normal catches at this time of the year? There is no "extra hour of daylight", so no. Now, if it's your habit to get up at a fixed time every day, and if that time happens to be before sunrise, you might have more time to DX. -GAWollman From lglavin@mail.com Mon Mar 5 16:14:09 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:14:09 -0500 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend Message-ID: <20070305211410.1BD8A1BF297@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Roger Kolakowski" >To: "BostonRadio Mailing List" >Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend >Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:40:01 -0500 >This should be an interesting weekend or week for the radio and TV >engineers. As DST is coming early this year, and many of the electronic >products not to mention Windows based computers have an automatic DST change >built in for a different change-over date, technicians should be running >around all week making sure they don't end up with a lost hour assuming >their "network" feeds move ahead an hour Sunday morning. >It could be an interesting Sunday, then again, it could be Y2K all over >again... >"much ado about nothing." >Don't forget your TIVO, computers and VCR's at home though! >Roger >WA1KAT Oh, and another thing: FCC Public Notice DA 07-938 announces significant changes in "daytime" AM stations' pre-sunrise and post-sunset power measurements. (These rules apparently apply to strict daytimers like Boston's WILD-AM 1090, and full-timers with flea-power at night like WJIB-AM 740 in Cambridge) Information about these changes has already appeared at radio-info.com's Boston, Northern New England and Engineering boards, but so far not here at the website of record. The FCC's URL for determining the authorized powers for affected stations as of the start of Daylight Savings Time is: http://svartifoss2.fcc.gov.prod/cdbs/pubacc/prod/sta_search.htm (Enter station call letters at top...AM Radio is the default choice; scroll down to 'Submit'; over at right of screen select 'Details'; at bottom of screen click on 'View correspondence'.) >From some of the comments on radio-info's Engineering board, news about these changes caught many unawares, with just days to make the requisite changes. I can hardly wait for Sunday night. = Beam Dynamics Engraving Laser Beam Dynamics a leading manufacturer of advanced laser machining solutions. Contact us online for an interactive tour of our laser systems and software, or for service in your area. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=7ab6a7f70d63d3b50ce3e1a11977f264 From wollman@csail.mit.edu Mon Mar 5 18:01:40 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:01:40 -0500 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend In-Reply-To: <20070305211410.1BD8A1BF297@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070305211410.1BD8A1BF297@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <17900.41300.853528.307085@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > (These rules apparently apply to strict daytimers like Boston's WILD-AM 1090, > and full-timers with flea-power at night like WJIB-AM 740 in Cambridge) Looks like a big win for Bob, anyway. WJIB gets to remain at full power until two hours after sunset, and WJTO can run at half power likewise. -GAWollman From scott@fybush.com Mon Mar 5 18:08:35 2007 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 18:08:35 -0500 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend In-Reply-To: <20070305211410.1BD8A1BF297@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> clamav-milter version 0.88.7 on rolinin.bostonradio.org autolearn=failed version=3.1.7 rolinin.bostonradio.org References: <20070305211410.1BD8A1BF297@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> clamav-milter version 0.88.7 on rolinin.bostonradio.org autolearn=failed version=3.1.7 rolinin.bostonradio.org Message-ID: <45ECA2F3.2020600@fybush.com> Laurence Glavin wrote: > Oh, and another thing: FCC Public Notice DA 07-938 announces significant > changes in "daytime" AM stations' pre-sunrise and post-sunset power measurements. > (These rules apparently apply to strict daytimers like Boston's WILD-AM 1090, > and full-timers with flea-power at night like WJIB-AM 740 in Cambridge) > Information about these changes has already appeared at radio-info.com's > Boston, Northern New England and Engineering boards, but so far not here > at the website of record. The FCC's URL for determining the authorized > powers for affected stations as of the start of Daylight Savings Time is: > > http://svartifoss2.fcc.gov.prod/cdbs/pubacc/prod/sta_search.htm > > (Enter station call letters at top...AM Radio is the default choice; > scroll down to 'Submit'; over at right of screen select 'Details'; > at bottom of screen click on 'View correspondence'.) > > >>From some of the comments on radio-info's Engineering board, news about > these changes caught many unawares, with just days to make the requisite > changes. I can hardly wait for Sunday night. It is significantly worse than that. The FCC apparently did something wrong when it was recalculating PSRAs and PSSAs, so most of those "new" power levels are incorrect, and the Commission's now pedaling furiously to get everything fixed before the weekend. Between the likelihood of broken automation and the simple confusion of these new power levels, it seems distinctly possible that there will be a number of stations operating at, shall we say, "unusual" powers or antenna patterns come next Sunday. I may drag myself out of bed before sunrise to hear what happens... s From sid@wrko.com Mon Mar 5 18:15:47 2007 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:15:47 -0700 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend Message-ID: >>Oh, and another thing: FCC Public Notice DA 07-938 announces significant changes in "daytime" AM stations' pre-sunrise and post-sunset power measurements. (These rules apparently apply to strict daytimers like Boston's WILD-AM 1090, and full-timers with flea-power at night like WJIB-AM 740 in Cambridge) Information about these changes has already appeared at radio-info.com's Boston, Northern New England and Engineering boards, but so far not here at the website of record. The FCC's URL for determining the authorized powers for affected stations as of the start of Daylight Savings Time is: http://svartifoss2.fcc.gov.prod/cdbs/pubacc/prod/sta_search.htm (Enter station call letters at top...AM Radio is the default choice; scroll down to 'Submit'; over at right of screen select 'Details'; at bottom of screen click on 'View correspondence'.)<< ...and they admitted this morning that most, if not all, new PSRA and PSSA authorizations were wrong. They're doing another computer run and hope to have the final figures by this weekend. If they don't get it done, they have promised some "guidance" for daytime and CH stations on their web site. What apparently tipped them off was a slew of complaints from stations which had their PSRA and/or PSSA power levels scaled back to lower levels than what they had previously, during the time period of the old DST rule. From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Mon Mar 5 17:18:05 2007 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:18:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend In-Reply-To: <17900.24470.242003.599376@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <475911.58351.qm@web58303.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Garrett Wollman wrote: > Why Congress couldn't have adopted the EU rules I do not know. > Perhaps it would have made too much sense. ObRadio: Besides the obvious switching of power-up/power-down times, will this affect DXing in any way, e.g. the extra hour of daylight allows for different-than-normal catches at this time of the year? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html From sean.smyth@yahoo.com Mon Mar 5 17:57:58 2007 From: sean.smyth@yahoo.com (Sean Smyth) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:57:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend In-Reply-To: <17900.40638.787691.759798@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <911951.34966.qm@web58309.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Garrett Wollman wrote: > There is no "extra hour of daylight", so no. What I should've said is "a time adjustment that will see many people awake more during sunlight hours." Or something along those lines. (Brain cells aren't firing up like usual.) > Now, if it's your habit > to get up at a fixed time every day, and if that time happens to be > before sunrise, you might have more time to DX. DXing also has to do with atmospheric conditions, from what I understand. I was curious as to what the conditions for DXing are like in mid-March as opposed to, say, early April, when the springing ahead occurred previously. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Mon Mar 5 21:29:39 2007 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 21:29:39 -0500 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend In-Reply-To: <000b01c75f3c$8a342c60$0200a8c0@Tanguray> References: <000b01c75f3c$8a342c60$0200a8c0@Tanguray> Message-ID: <45ECD213.8050808@ttlc.net> > Don't forget your TIVO, computers and VCR's at home though! > I called TiVo and they claim no user interaction is required. Current Software should handle the time change automatically. I anybody has info to the contrary, please advise! I don't want to lose any shows. Thanks From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Mar 6 00:58:56 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 00:58:56 -0500 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend In-Reply-To: <17900.24470.242003.599376@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <17900.15625.482808.406977@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu>, <17900.23541.798740.957433@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu>, <17900.24470.242003.599376@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <45ECBCD0.21942.812ADA@joe.attorneyross.com> On 5 Mar 2007 at 13:21, Garrett Wollman wrote: > Why Congress couldn't have adopted the EU rules I do not know. > Perhaps it would have made too much sense. What are the EU rules? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Tue Mar 6 00:58:56 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 00:58:56 -0500 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend In-Reply-To: <17900.15625.482808.406977@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <000b01c75f3c$8a342c60$0200a8c0@Tanguray>, <17900.15625.482808.406977@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <45ECBCD0.677.812B68@joe.attorneyross.com> On 5 Mar 2007 at 10:53, Garrett Wollman wrote: > Well, if they're correctly designed they have a *rule* for the > change-over rather than a specific date (which would have to be > fiddled every year). I don't know about later versions of Windows, but in Windows 98SE, if you go to the Control Panel and click on "Date/Time," you get to a screen which contains an option to automatically adjust for DST. You can uncheck that option, so as to prevent the software from trying to adjust the time on the old dates. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From wollman@csail.mit.edu Tue Mar 6 01:32:57 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 01:32:57 -0500 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend In-Reply-To: <45ECBCD0.21942.812ADA@joe.attorneyross.com> References: <17900.15625.482808.406977@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <17900.23541.798740.957433@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <17900.24470.242003.599376@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <45ECBCD0.21942.812ADA@joe.attorneyross.com> Message-ID: <17901.2841.703838.683221@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > What are the EU rules? In the rather terse description of the timezone database: # Rule NAME FROM TO TYPE IN ON AT SAVE LETTER/S Rule EU 1981 max - Mar lastSun 1:00u 1:00 S Rule EU 1996 max - Oct lastSun 1:00u 0 - This means that, starting in 1981 and running through the heat-death of the universe, EU countries will switch to DST on the last Sunday in March at 0100 UTC, and likewise from 1996 on they switch back to standard time on the last Sunday in October at 0100 UTC. The switch times are specified in UTC so that everyone switches throughout the whole EU at the same time (unlike here, where the switch happens an hour later in each time zone as you go west). As an attorney, you may be interested in Joseph S. Myers's essay "History of legal time in Britain", . The US and the EU have never agreed on the starting date, to my knowledge, which causes no end of confusion in the period between the two. (ObRadio: although the BBC World Service runs on "GMT" all the time, they typically do schedule changes at the same time as the time change. So the program that Eli introduces next Saturday morning at 1:30 will not be on at that time two Saturdays from now -- but if history is any guide, it will be back three Saturdays from now when the BBC schedule is rejiggered.) -GAWollman From raccoonradio@mail.com Tue Mar 6 03:35:46 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 03:35:46 -0500 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend Message-ID: <20070306083546.B0D6583BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> >>There is no "extra hour of daylight", so no. Now, if it's your habit to get up at a fixed time every day, and if that time happens to be before sunrise, you might have more time to DX. One year I remember WBCN doing a bit where they proclaimed a great new development, "the 25th hour" (obtained in fall when clocks are turned back). "Another BCN-ovation..." My VCR (I still have one, for now) gives the option of Manual or Automatic clock settings AND it also allows you to either have it adjust for daylight saving time automatically or you can disable it (which is just what I did). The VCR is probably about 10 years old by now, and someday when I get a DVD-recorder I may just take the remainder of my videotapes and transfer them. (Among them: a box set of the entire Twin Peaks series and some highlights from previous cartoon-fan conventions; in later years, these highlights were put out on DVD rather than VHS but they never got around to putting out DVD versions of the previous years...) From radio88@radio88.net Tue Mar 6 03:37:49 2007 From: radio88@radio88.net (Todd Glickman) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 03:37:49 -0500 Subject: Daylight SAVING Time Message-ID: It's neither plural, nor possessive. Leave off the last "s" for SAVING: Daylight SAVING Time. But as others have mentioned, daylight is not saved... perhaps it should be called "Daylight Shifted Time"! -- Todd Glickman Associate Director, Office of Corporate Relations Massachusetts Institute of Technology, E38-400 292 Main Street, 4th Floor Cambridge, MA 02139 Email: glickman@mit.edu Phone: (617) 452-2457 Certified Broadcast Meteorologist WCBS Newsradio-880 New York City, NY Email: radio88@radio88.net From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Tue Mar 6 05:25:13 2007 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (chuckigo@maine.rr.com) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 05:25:13 -0500 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend In-Reply-To: <20070306083546.B0D6583BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070306083546.B0D6583BE2@ws1-1a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Nelson Date: Tuesday, March 6, 2007 3:44 am Subject: Re: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend > > One year I remember WBCN doing a bit where they proclaimed > a great new development, "the 25th hour" (obtained in fall > when clocks are turned back). "Another BCN-ovation..." > not having to do with "time" management, but back in the 70's, didn't WVBF present the "25th hour" every night at midnight? or at least weeknights? - - Chuck Igo From ewerme@comcast.net Tue Mar 6 10:14:01 2007 From: ewerme@comcast.net (Ric Werme) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 10:14:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend Message-ID: <20070306151401.EFD9F43B48@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> A. Joseph Ross wrote: >On 5 Mar 2007 at 10:53, Garrett Wollman wrote: >> Well, if they're correctly designed they have a *rule* for the >> change-over rather than a specific date (which would have to be >> fiddled every year). >I don't know about later versions of Windows, but in Windows 98SE, if >you go to the Control Panel and click on "Date/Time," you get to a >screen which contains an option to automatically adjust for DST. You >can uncheck that option, so as to prevent the software from trying to >adjust the time on the old dates. The good news is that http://www.sharpebusinesssolutions.com/dst2007.htm offers Windows patches for the new savings time regime for Windows versions no longer support by Microsoft.. The bad news is that they are only for the NT line, the Windows 95, 98, ME do not have patches. I don't know where the Windows keeps rules, Unix/Linux has an extensive rule set with a complete history so it can propoerly display past time stamps. The many comments include references to sites like http://www.mccsc.edu/time.html for an unofficial but extensive description of Indiana and a stale link that should be http://www.lib.az.us/links/daylight.cfm that describes Arizona's rules. The Indiana page is a real hoot. There must be something in the air at the state capital, see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Pi_Bill which apparently would not have legislated a value of pi as is commonly understood. Perhaps it's "time" to make sure my wind-up clocks still work. -Ric Werme \ From wollman@csail.mit.edu Tue Mar 6 11:08:37 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 11:08:37 -0500 Subject: Ownership research Message-ID: <17901.37381.619792.322650@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> I've been doing some research into the ownership of major station groups. Those of you who have visited the Archives recently will have noted that the Entercom stations now identify Joseph M. Field; like many formerly-private firms, Mr. Field structured his company so as to retain a majority vote for himself while selling the majority *economic* stake to the public. Conveniently for me, the FCC requires biennial reports on who actually does own and control every licensee. What about other station groups in the area? As is well known, CBS is controlled by Sumner Redstone through his company National Amusements. Rose City Radio (WWZN) is Paul Allen, and Beasley Broadcast Group (WRCA) is ultimately controlled by George G. Beasley. Multicultural (WLYN) is 51% owned by Arthur Liu -- the remaining 49% is owned by his wife Yvonne; similarly, ownership of Champion is split 51/49 between Herbert Hoffman and his son (?) Matthew. Salem belongs to the Atsinger-Epperson family (Mr. Atsinger is married to Mr. Epperson's sister, or vice versa, I forget which). An odd case is Greater Media. According to the most recent ownership reports, Greater is still owned by the Estate of Peter A. Bordes, several years his decease. Surely one would expect the estate to be settled by now? (It probably doesn't matter, since his executors are his widow, Lee Bordes, and his brother, John Bordes.) Another interesting one (moving now into the TV world) is Fox. Fox is only 81% owned by News Corp.; the remainder is owned by Rupert personally, through an unusual income trust structure. News Corp. itself is no longer controlled by Murdoch; thanks to his deal with Liberty Media he only has 31.2%; Liberty has another 19.1%. Entravision is another company which can be controlled by two people, when they choose to cooperate: Walter F. Ulloa (34.1%) and Philip C. Wilkinson (same). A third partner, Paul Zevnick, has only 14%. Univision has a large economic interest in Entravision, but has no voting rights for market-cap reasons. -GAWollman From sid@wrko.com Tue Mar 6 11:35:13 2007 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 09:35:13 -0700 Subject: Daylight Savings time Patches for this weekend Message-ID: >>The bad news is that they are only for the NT line, the Windows 95, 98, ME do not have patches. I don't know where the Windows keeps rules,<< Not bad news at all. The NT version of TZEDIT will work with *any* 32-bit version of Windows. Through all the versions from 95 through Vista, one thing that hasn't changed is the location of the registry keys which set the DST parameters. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From dave@skywaves.net Wed Mar 7 12:33:53 2007 From: dave@skywaves.net (Dave Doherty) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 12:33:53 -0500 Subject: FCC Rescinds New PSSAs and PSRAs Message-ID: <1ca001c760de$c6b25290$49a600d8@skywaves.net> Hi, all- Apparently, there were so many problems with the program the FCC used to calculate the new PSRA and PSSA authorizations that they have to rework it. All authorizations issued last week are being rescinded. You can continue to use your current authorizations, excep that there may be something in the final release about using the April authorizations in March. -Dave Doherty Skywaves, Inc. 97 Webster Street Worcester, MA 01603 508-425-7176 From lglavin@mail.com Wed Mar 7 17:07:34 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:07:34 -0500 Subject: Emily Litella Lives Message-ID: <20070307220736.BDFFF1BF297@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Emily Litella lives (although sadly her creator does not); Charles Miller of the FCC has alerted everybody about, you know, those PSSA/PSRA changes on Sunday? NEVER MIND! Everybody just do what you would have done had E.S.T ended in April as in days of yore. No daytime power for WJIB-AM for two hours after sunset. = Jotto Desks & Laptop Stands Laptop stands & car desks for any vehicle, great pricing and service. Free shipping and fast service. No drill and universal stands to fit your vehicle. 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(That is, until mid-November; which is what, October 46th or something like that?) -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 5:07 PM Subject: Emily Litella Lives > Emily Litella lives (although sadly her creator does not); Charles > Miller of the FCC has alerted everybody about, you know, those > PSSA/PSRA changes on Sunday? NEVER MIND! Everybody just do what > you would have done had E.S.T ended in April as in days of yore. > No daytime power for WJIB-AM for two hours after sunset. > > = > Jotto Desks & Laptop Stands > Laptop stands & car desks for any vehicle, great pricing and service. Free shipping and fast service. No drill and universal stands to fit your vehicle. Right product at the right price. > http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=32b514ab03dc10a1608df363 bb9a57b4 > > From sid@wrko.com Wed Mar 7 19:35:14 2007 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:35:14 -0700 Subject: FCC Rescinds New PSSAs and PSRAs Message-ID: >>Apparently, there were so many problems with the program the FCC used to calculate the new PSRA and PSSA authorizations that they have to rework it. All authorizations issued last week are being rescinded. You can continue to use your current authorizations, excep that there may be something in the final release about using the April authorizations in March.<< The final release: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-07-1076A1.pdf Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Wed Mar 7 20:32:41 2007 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:32:41 -0500 Subject: Herald: Ch 4 going back to "WBZ" brand In-Reply-To: <17764.44547.4804.410357@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> References: <17764.44547.4804.410357@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <45EF67B9.1070700@ttlc.net> Garrett Wollman wrote: > ObBroadcasting: There's one traffic reporter working for MetroShadow > in Boston who says "donton" (downtown) like a Pittsburgher. More than > one of his colleagues says "eat" instead of "eight", which is > apparently the mark of a Philadelphian. > From time to time the Canadian heritage of one or more of the Traffic Reporters comes "oot" when saying "out" Also, Karen Perrier seems to call route 495 "4 'n' 95" The 'n' is subdued, but definitely there. From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Wed Mar 7 20:38:48 2007 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:38:48 -0500 Subject: WBZ News Promo Message-ID: <45EF6928.2080206@ttlc.net> I've noticed that WBZ is touting (frequently) that Ed Walsh is "Exclusively On WBZ NewsRadio 1030" Is this just empty marketing hype? Are there Major Market anchors that work for multiple stations? Are they emphasizing the fact that he does not appear on WBZ Channel 4? From wollman@csail.mit.edu Wed Mar 7 21:00:21 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 21:00:21 -0500 Subject: WBZ News Promo In-Reply-To: <45EF6928.2080206@ttlc.net> References: <45EF6928.2080206@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <17903.28213.720786.432469@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: > I've noticed that WBZ is touting (frequently) that Ed Walsh is > "Exclusively On WBZ NewsRadio 1030" > Are they emphasizing the fact that he does not appear on WBZ Channel 4? They may be emphasizing the fact that he doesn't work for Metro. -GAWollman From m1bz@hotmail.com Wed Mar 7 22:27:24 2007 From: m1bz@hotmail.com (Michael E) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 22:27:24 -0500 Subject: WBZ News Promo In-Reply-To: <45EF6928.2080206@ttlc.net> Message-ID: Perhaps they're saying that WBZ is the only radio station where you'll find Ed Walsh. I don't think TV has anything to do with it. >From: Roger Kirk >To: bri@bostonradio.org >Subject: WBZ News Promo >Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 20:38:48 -0500 > >I've noticed that WBZ is touting (frequently) that Ed Walsh is "Exclusively >On WBZ NewsRadio 1030" > >Is this just empty marketing hype? Are there Major Market anchors that >work for multiple stations? > >Are they emphasizing the fact that he does not appear on WBZ Channel 4? > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Win a Zune??make MSN? your homepage for your chance to win! http://homepage.msn.com/zune?icid=hmetagline From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Thu Mar 8 07:41:25 2007 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 07:41:25 -0500 Subject: WBZ News Promo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45F00475.8030103@ttlc.net> Michael E wrote: > Perhaps they're saying that WBZ is the only radio station where you'll > find Ed Walsh. I don't think TV has anything to do with it. Perhaps, but they don't say the same about Kendall Buell, Gregg Jensen, Carl Stevens, Laurie Kirby, Don Huff, Anthony Silva, et al. From m1bz@hotmail.com Thu Mar 8 08:54:42 2007 From: m1bz@hotmail.com (Michael E) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 08:54:42 -0500 Subject: WBZ News Promo In-Reply-To: <45F00475.8030103@ttlc.net> Message-ID: I think it's meant to spotlight Ed Walsh, who's anchoring the news in the morning, the most important daypart. The promo is probably also trying o generate a bit of buzz about Ed, who's in Gary LaPierre's old slot. >From: Roger Kirk >To: Michael E >CC: bri@bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: WBZ News Promo >Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 07:41:25 -0500 > >Michael E wrote: >>Perhaps they're saying that WBZ is the only radio station where you'll >>find Ed Walsh. I don't think TV has anything to do with it. > >Perhaps, but they don't say the same about Kendall Buell, Gregg Jensen, >Carl Stevens, Laurie Kirby, Don Huff, Anthony Silva, et al. > > _________________________________________________________________ Don?t miss your chance to WIN 10 hours of private jet travel from Microsoft? Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0540002499mrt/direct/01/ From ewerme@comcast.net Thu Mar 8 12:14:03 2007 From: ewerme@comcast.net (Ric Werme) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:14:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: FCC Rescinds New PSSAs and PSRAs Message-ID: <20070308171403.688A843B7D@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> >Apparently, there were so many problems with the program the FCC used to >calculate the new PSRA and PSSA authorizations that they have to rework it. >All authorizations issued last week are being rescinded. You can continue to >use your current authorizations, excep that there may be something in the >final release about using the April authorizations in March. If I had a heart, I'd feel sorry for all you poor guys using Windows systems to wrestle with the FCC and your clocks. http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=307&tag=nl.e589 excerpts: Microsoft's online DST chat room - which Microsoft is currently keeping open from 6 a.m. PST to 9 p.m. PST to handle customers' questions - is full of customers who can't get their DST patches to work. Microsoft support phone lines are jammed with users with DST problems. "I was requested to call Microsoft support because of my particular problem," Marsh said. "I called Microsoft support. I was 117th in the queue and was informed the wait was 3 hours. I waited 4 hrs and 45 minutes but no one ever picked up. If I hear Microsoft hold music again I think I'll go mad. The bottom line is 'Hello Microsoft! There is a problem!' and we have something like 42 hours to figure this out." Jeez, it almost sounds worthwhile staying up until 0700 UTC or whatever it is Sunday AM. Or watching C-Span when the Congressional hearings happen. Or start an office pool as to when standard time returns this year. Wouldn't it just be icing on the cake if WHDH-TV loses the feed to WLVI-TV then too? -Ric Werme From rogerkola@aol.com Thu Mar 8 12:42:46 2007 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:42:46 -0500 Subject: FCC Rescinds New PSSAs and PSRAs References: <20070308171403.688A843B7D@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> Message-ID: <000801c761a9$2f025dc0$0200a8c0@Tanguray> For all you luddites out there like me ;-) Microsoft actually included a time zone editor on the Operating system CD's or Floppies (remember them? I still have a full distribution of WIN 95 on Floppies) In case you can't find your setup CD or want to save some time...try the link below www.softshape.com/cham/manual/tzedit.htm I used it to check another patch to see if it had done anything and it displayed my changes as correct (until the government gets involved again) If using an unknown patch makes you nervous you can google TZEDIT and microsoft and you will come up with a page that looks similar to this and will give you an instant headache: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/886775 Looks like the patches work from Win95 to Win2000, but your mileage will vary, of course... What is hard to believe is that Microsoft has the answer but won't give it out because the products are unsupported. Then again I can't buy leaded gas for my Edsel ;-( Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ric Werme" To: "Microsoft's online DST chat room - which Microsoft is currently keeping open > from 6 a.m. PST to 9 p.m. PST to handle customers' questions - is full of > customers who can't get their DST patches to work. Microsoft support phone > lines are jammed with users with DST problems. > > "I was requested to call Microsoft support because of my particular > problem," Marsh said. "I called Microsoft support. I was 117th in the queue > and was informed the wait was 3 hours. I waited 4 hrs and 45 minutes but no > one ever picked up. If I hear Microsoft hold music again I think I'll go > mad. The bottom line is 'Hello Microsoft! There is a problem!' and we have > something like 42 hours to figure this out." > > Jeez, it almost sounds worthwhile staying up until 0700 UTC or whatever it > is Sunday AM. Or watching C-Span when the Congressional hearings happen. > Or start an office pool as to when standard time returns this year. > Wouldn't it just be icing on the cake if WHDH-TV loses the feed to WLVI-TV > then too? > > -Ric Werme > From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Mar 8 12:58:57 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 12:58:57 -0500 Subject: WRKO: Howie who? Message-ID: <20070308175859.B8E6883986@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Those on the WRKO mailing list are getting messages from PD Jason Wolfe apologizing for the fact that Red Sox exhibition games are pre-empting Rush Limbaugh on weekdays. He assures listeners that it was part of the contract with the Sox that 'RKO (and not 'EEI) carry the exhibition games, and once the season starts all weekday afternoon games will be on WEEI except for "the two opening days" (opening day at KC and then Fenway opening day) which will be on WRKO. He fails to mention Howie Carr's name--and Howie is losing at least one hour of his show due to these games. However the email does mention a live broadcast of Howie's show from the Harp tomorrow. Howie fans have had to resort to live streaming (unless they can pick up WGAN in Portland). Last Monday the Finneran/Carr feud was front page news in the Herald but those who wanted to hear Howie talk about it on WRKO found the Sox instead, and when they went to RKO's site to get the streamcast they found...Fox Sports Radio instead. From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Mar 8 13:22:26 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 13:22:26 -0500 Subject: Howie who? References: <20070308175859.B8E6883986@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <000901c761ae$bde73b00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I'm sure the Finneran-Carr feud is attracting listeners, but can't you imagine Jason Wolfe calling his two stars into his office (together, or if necessary, separately) and saying to them, "I want you boys to go after each other on the air. I hired Tom so you could do it, Howie. Boston radio hasn't had anything like this in as long as I can remember. It'll send ratings through the roof. Now, get behind those microphones and earn your money!" It's good radio and Carr may really not like Finneran, but the whole thing is basically just a staged publicity stunt. Does anybody not understand that? -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: "BostonRadio Mailing List" Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 12:58 PM Subject: WRKO: Howie who? > Those on the WRKO mailing list are getting messages from PD > Jason Wolfe apologizing for the fact that Red Sox exhibition games are pre-empting Rush Limbaugh on weekdays. He assures listeners > that it was part of the contract with the Sox that 'RKO (and not > 'EEI) carry the exhibition games, and once the season starts all > weekday afternoon games will be on WEEI except for "the two > opening days" (opening day at KC and then Fenway opening day) > which will be on WRKO. > > He fails to mention Howie Carr's name--and Howie is losing at least one hour of his show due to these games. However the email does > mention a live broadcast of Howie's show from the Harp tomorrow. > Howie fans have had to resort to live streaming (unless they can pick up WGAN in Portland). Last Monday the Finneran/Carr feud > was front page news in the Herald but those who wanted to hear > Howie talk about it on WRKO found the Sox instead, and when they > went to RKO's site to get the streamcast they found...Fox Sports > Radio instead. > From me@billoneill.us Thu Mar 8 13:25:01 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:25:01 -0500 Subject: WRKO: Howie who? In-Reply-To: <20070308175859.B8E6883986@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070308175859.B8E6883986@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <45F054FD.7080907@billoneill.us> Bob Nelson wrote: > and when they > went to RKO's site to get the streamcast they found...Fox Sports > Radio instead. > Brilliant. Why didn't they also offer a live stream of Howie? Since Carr was pulled from WVMT (620 Burlington), he was replaced with the unremarkable Jerry Doyle Show. Bill O'Neill From me@billoneill.us Thu Mar 8 13:27:27 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:27:27 -0500 Subject: Howie who? In-Reply-To: <000901c761ae$bde73b00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <20070308175859.B8E6883986@ws1-2a.us4.outblaze.com> <000901c761ae$bde73b00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <45F0558F.7070002@billoneill.us> Dan Strassberg wrote: > It's good radio and Carr may really not like Finneran, but the whole > thing is basically just a staged publicity stunt. Does anybody not > understand that? That might be giving station management a bit too much credit. I would imagine that management is more concerned about the jock lounge coffee contract. Bill O'Neill From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Mar 8 13:31:32 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:31:32 -0500 Subject: Howie who? Message-ID: <20070308183134.6359D1CE303@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> Dan wrote: >>It's good radio and Carr may really not like Finneran, but the whole thing is basically just a staged publicity stunt. Does anybody not understand that? Oh sure, I do and have said as much. But it was kinda odd to see Jason's email to "WRKO insiders" in which he apologizes to Rush's fans (who admittedly can still hear him on stations from Providence, Worcester, and N.H.) but he fails to mention Howie and his fans. (With WCRN also carrying the Sox, over the air listeners had to try to strain to pick up WGAN from Portland or maybe WXTK from the Cape--unless they too had the Sox--and the biggest blunder was the WRKO webstream set to Fox Sports Radio on the day when the Herald front cover may have attracted some listeners!) I went on WRKO's messageboard and said Howie is to WRKO what David "Big Papi" Ortiz is to the Sox; this is how you treat your franchise player? :) = Laptop Screen Replacments : 15" $389 Parts & Labor. Backlight, Inverter, Hinges, Pwr. Jack $198. Houston. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=335014f07d31f96808c1443a746558dc From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Mar 8 13:35:37 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:35:37 -0500 Subject: WRKO: Howie who? Message-ID: <20070308183538.97D771CE303@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> Bill wrote: >>Bri