From hykker@grolen.com Mon Jan 1 10:03:21 2007 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 10:03:21 -0500 Subject: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ In-Reply-To: <20070101001511.9411E44C00C@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> References: <7142932.2157901167599409043.JavaMail.root@vms246> <20070101001511.9411E44C00C@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20070101100125.019d0ce0@grolen.com> Donna Halper wrote: > And what about the old Yankee Network-- I have their > sounder: "News while it IS news, the Yankee Network is on the > air," and I think a few old newscasts are out there somewhere... I'm sure this has been asked (and answered) before, but when did the Yankee network close up shop? The last I recall hearing them was late '66/early '67 though it may have lasted longer. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/598 - Release Date: 12/22/2006 From revdoug1@verizon.net Mon Jan 1 11:33:06 2007 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 11:33:06 -0500 Subject: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ References: <7142932.2157901167599409043.JavaMail.root@vms246> <20070101001511.9411E44C00C@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> <7.0.1.0.0.20070101100125.019d0ce0@grolen.com> Message-ID: <00f301c72dc2$8456e0e0$6501a8c0@pastor2> WNAC became WRKO in March 1967. It was RKO General's decision to close down the Yankee Network at the time of the format/call change, probably because its programming was incompatible with what the management had in mind for WRKO. (Do you remember the days when it was rare for Top 40 stations to be CBS affiliates? Same thing.) -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "SteveOrdinetz" To: Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: Re: Re: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ > Donna Halper wrote: > > And what about the old Yankee Network-- I have their > > sounder: "News while it IS news, the Yankee Network is on the > > air," and I think a few old newscasts are out there somewhere... > > I'm sure this has been asked (and answered) before, but when did the > Yankee network close up shop? The last I recall hearing them was > late '66/early '67 though it may have lasted longer. > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/598 - Release Date: 12/22/2006 > > From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Jan 1 12:19:33 2007 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 12:19:33 -0500 Subject: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ In-Reply-To: <000a01c72dbb$88c514a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <7142932.2157901167599409043.JavaMail.root@vms246> <20070101001511.9411E44C00C@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> <7.0.1.0.0.20070101100125.019d0ce0@grolen.com> <000a01c72dbb$88c514a0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <20070101171734.3077644C007@relay1.r1.iad.emailsrvr.com> At 10:43 AM 1/1/2007, Dan Strassberg wrote: >Did the Yankee Network close up shop when WNAC flipped calls to WRKO? The Yankee Network quietly closed up shop on 26 February 1967. The call letters changed from WNAC to WRKO the week of 6 March, and On Monday, 13 March, 1967 WRKO changed format to top 40. All information is according to various Boston newspapers, by the way. This question did come up a few months ago... From wollman@csail.mit.edu Mon Jan 1 12:30:09 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 12:30:09 -0500 Subject: WLVI refugees find homes Message-ID: <17817.17697.978339.662258@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> I saw ex-WLVI chief meterologist Mike Wankum doing fill-in work Sunday night on WCVB. On the final 56 show, he hinted that he already had another job lined up in the Boston market. He's not listed on 'CVB's Web site, though. Any word on any of other ex-56 staff coming back from the beach? -GAWollman From markwats@comcast.net Mon Jan 1 13:59:21 2007 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 13:59:21 -0500 Subject: WLVI refugees find homes References: <17817.17697.978339.662258@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <004001c72dd6$f3632200$9447da18@Mark> Garrett Wollman wrote: >I saw ex-WLVI chief meterologist Mike Wankum doing fill-in work Sunday > night on WCVB. On the final 56 show, he hinted that he already had > another job lined up in the Boston market. He's not listed on 'CVB's > Web site, though. I read in an article in the Boston Herald a couple of days after the final WLVI- produced news aired that mentioned Mike Wankum would be doing some freelance fill in work on WCVB. Garrett also wrote: > Any word on any of other ex-56 staff coming back from the beach? According to the same Herald article, former weekend meteorologist Joe Venuti is now at WCVB as a weather producer. The article also stated a couple of reporters landed jobs outside the market. Lauren Jiggetts went to one of the Chicago TV stations, while Adam Chonak (sp?) I believe found a job at one of Denver's TV stations. I haven't seen or read anything about any of the other ex-WLVI news staffers finding new jobs as of yet. Mark Watson From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Mon Jan 1 14:51:04 2007 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 14:51:04 -0500 Subject: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ References: <008301c72b87$25798a10$9447da18@Mark><39118.66.195.169.98.1167425700.squirrel@webmail10.pair.com><4597CD8C.9010901@billoneill.us><002c01c72cf7$96cc63b0$123f434b@DG07P241><4597F609.6080904@fybush.com> <20061231175955.1AC6744C082@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <04d501c72dde$62cc6320$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > I have a question about Jay McQuaide-- I gather they didn't renew his > contract at WBZ. I know he got another job, but my understanding is > that he is out of radio? Here's more rumblings... Jay was at WBZ doing middays....and waiting for the day when Gary retired...hoping to grab the morning anchor slot...and at least some of the "Gary Money" as well. Since he was filling in for Gary as needed, he thought he would be WBZ's logical choice to replace Gary. He and WBZ started contract negotiations, and they offerred him a deal. >From what I understand, he wanted a much larger increase that the standard COL....again, thinking they valued him as Gary's replacement. Jay became disenfranchised with WBZ's management, the newsroom cuts, their (non) negotiating with him, etc. Jay's friend and former WBZ colleague Peter Meade was working over at Blue Cross-Blue Chield and knew Jay was a bright guy....and offerred him a "good job at a good wage" (to quote Gov Dukakis). Which included normal hours, an office, support staff, generous vacation, etc. I believe having young kids and his read of WBZ/CBS at the time, he made a decision of what holds the brighter future...and would be best for his family. So, from what I heard, he WAS offerred another contract...but not for the amount he was seeking. If he was still there, would he have taken over the morning slot? He was, after all, Lappiere's replacement. Would WBZ still have searched and found Ed Walsh outside the market if McQuade was still there? ??? Again, this is all hearsay. From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Mon Jan 1 14:55:19 2007 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 14:55:19 -0500 Subject: Gary LaPierre Wraps Up 42 Years At WBZ References: <008301c72b87$25798a10$9447da18@Mark><39118.66.195.169.98.1167425700.squirrel@webmail10.pair.com><4597CD8C.9010901@billoneill.us><002c01c72cf7$96cc63b0$123f434b@DG07P241><4597F609.6080904@fybush.com> <20061231175955.1AC6744C082@relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <050b01c72ddf$237e86c0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > Ditto for Flo Jonic, as I recall-- she did > some story that the government didn't like (and she turned out to > have been 100% accurate) but she was fired or something? >From what I understand she was not fired for the report/story (which the station had delayed airing for multiple concerns). But was fired for insubordination. She was not happy with the stations decision to "hold" the story...and wrote a company-wide (or at least newsroom-wide) email and spoke to the press complaining about the company's decision. From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Jan 1 18:35:37 2007 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 15:35:37 -0800 Subject: WLVI refugees find homes In-Reply-To: <004001c72dd6$f3632200$9447da18@Mark> References: <17817.17697.978339.662258@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> <004001c72dd6$f3632200$9447da18@Mark> Message-ID: <083A2BDA-010F-1000-D969-840075B66706-Webmail-10010@mac.com> On Monday, January 01, 2007, at 02:33PM, "Mark Watson" wrote: >> Any word on any of other ex-56 staff coming back from the beach? > Several members of their engineering staff are now working here at Channel 7, as are most of their sales department. I think it's the news people who got hit the hardest. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From m1bz@hotmail.com Mon Jan 1 20:07:34 2007 From: m1bz@hotmail.com (Michael E) Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 20:07:34 -0500 Subject: WLVI refugees find homes In-Reply-To: <083A2BDA-010F-1000-D969-840075B66706-Webmail-10010@mac.com> Message-ID: I know of a number of WLVI newsroom staffers who are frantically searching for work. People always talk about the faces we see and the voices we hear, never about the people who make them look and/or sound good. They're hurting too. >From: Larry Weil >To: bri@bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: WLVI refugees find homes >Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 15:35:37 -0800 > > >On Monday, January 01, 2007, at 02:33PM, "Mark Watson" > wrote: > > >> Any word on any of other ex-56 staff coming back from the beach? > > > >Several members of their engineering staff are now working here at Channel >7, as are most of their sales department. I think it's the news people who >got hit the hardest. > >Larry Weil >Lake Wobegone, NH _________________________________________________________________ >From photos to predictions, The MSN Entertainment Guide to Golden Globes has it all. http://tv.msn.com/tv/globes2007/ From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Jan 1 22:23:59 2007 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 22:23:59 -0500 Subject: WLVI refugees find homes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 8:07 PM -0500 1/1/07, Michael E wrote: >I know of a number of WLVI newsroom staffers who are frantically >searching for work. > >People always talk about the faces we see and the voices we hear, >never about the people who make them look and/or sound good. >They're hurting too. When I said "news people", I meant that to be inclusive of the news department, not just the on-air talent. > >>From: Larry Weil >>To: bri@bostonradio.org >>Subject: Re: WLVI refugees find homes >>Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 15:35:37 -0800 >> >> >>On Monday, January 01, 2007, at 02:33PM, "Mark Watson" >> wrote: >> >>>> Any word on any of other ex-56 staff coming back from the beach? >>> >> >>Several members of their engineering staff are now working here at >>Channel 7, as are most of their sales department. I think it's the >>news people who got hit the hardest. >> >>Larry Weil >>Lake Wobegone, NH > >_________________________________________________________________ >From photos to predictions, The MSN Entertainment Guide to Golden >Globes has it all. http://tv.msn.com/tv/globes2007/ -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Tue Jan 2 10:13:56 2007 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 07:13:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: So many pots, switches, buttons, knobs..what 'dis do? In-Reply-To: <000201c72aec$699ffe90$e7c105cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <20070102151356.38951.qmail@web56814.mail.re3.yahoo.com> On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 20:55:22 Daniel Billings wrote: > It is not just the big guys that have these > problems. JJ Jeffrey's Big Jab > sports station is broadcast on three stations, > including AM 900 out of > Brunswick. 95.5 and AM 1440 are the main stations > and the Brunswick feed is > an after thought. From time to time, the station is > unlistenable. I'm not > sure how they feed the audio to the station but > something happens that makes > the whole station sound like you have slightly tuned > out of the station. > One time it went on for days. I sent an e-mail. It > was fixed the next day. > I also have a story to contribute here. The actual station involved as well as the person involved in this matter will remain nameless. Back in 2000, this station used to carry the 2-hour version of the syndicated rock show "Flashback" on automation. A particular board operator was assigned to run a countdown show on a much larger sister station during the same timeslot. This board operator was the only person in the building at the time, and was also expected to "keep an eye" on all the other stations to make sure they remained on the air and operating correctly. Soon after taking over this shift, in between running the countdown, they noticed that the same second hour of Flashback had run for 3 weeks in a row. They notified engineering and programming, who inititally just blew them off (engineering also showed the board operator how they changed the Flashback program CDs in the jukebox automation system they used to ensure that the show was being properly updated). The following week the same thing happened again, at which point the board operator started to ride engineering about this a bit more persistently. Although they didn't let on to the board op initially, it appeared that they finally listened to the station during Flashback and also noticed that something was indeed wrong. After a couple more weeks of wrangling, all parties involved were a bit surprised to find out that a previous engineer, while trying to cover up a mistake they made while programming the automation system, had slipped a Flashback Hour Two CD someplace else in the jukebox, and put a hack in the automation system scheduler to always run that second hour instead of the correct Hour Two CD. Further, engineering realized that this situation had been going on for quite some time BEFORE this board operator had noticed it (although they would not admit how long, the board op figured it was likely going on for a couple years). They told the board op that they were the first person in all that time to actually notice that something was wrong, meaning that nobody ever really paid attention to, or even listened to the station in question. So this is not at all an uncommon situation, and a final note from me on this story - this particular situation occurred in a much larger market than most people might think. Matt Osborne Schenectady, NY __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rogerkirk@ttlc.net Tue Jan 2 22:12:49 2007 From: rogerkirk@ttlc.net (Roger Kirk) Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 22:12:49 -0500 Subject: So many pots, switches, buttons, knobs..what 'dis do? In-Reply-To: <20070102151356.38951.qmail@web56814.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <20070102151356.38951.qmail@web56814.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <459B1F31.5010709@ttlc.net> Matthew Osborne wrote: > So this is not at all an uncommon situation, and a > final note from me on this story - this particular > situation occurred in a much larger market than most > people might think. While working for WRKO, I noticed "South Street", by the Orlons, skipped. And it was on cart. I brought it to the attention of the Music Director who had it re-carted. So, apparently nobody heard the skip before me. Not the person who carted it, not the Jock and not the tech on duty for the air console. To be fair, when a Jock finished introing the song, both he and the tech turned their air monitors down to converse via intercom about the next break. By the time the next break was all laid out, the skip had come and gone. However, since it was carted, no listener ever called to complain, no other tech had heard it, no newsman had heard it, no PD had heard it, no MD had heard it, no "hitline" person had heard it, no other personnel in the station had heard it. From me@billoneill.us Tue Jan 2 22:48:26 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 22:48:26 -0500 Subject: So many pots, switches, buttons, knobs..what 'dis do? In-Reply-To: <459B1F31.5010709@ttlc.net> References: <20070102151356.38951.qmail@web56814.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <459B1F31.5010709@ttlc.net> Message-ID: <459B278A.5070200@billoneill.us> Roger Kirk wrote: > no listener ever called to complain, no other tech had heard > it, no newsman had heard it, no PD had heard it, no MD had > heard it, no "hitline" person had heard it, no other > personnel in the station had heard it. File under: If a record skips in the woods.... Bill O'Neill From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed Jan 3 01:57:37 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 01:57:37 -0500 Subject: WRKO: Savage, then Doyle at night? Message-ID: <20070103065737.9B47C1CE30D@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> For a few days it seems that WRKO was moving Michael Savage to 7 pm due to 10 pm Celtics games. But tonight Savage aired at 7 and no Celts game was scheduled! Apparently a new time slot? After him came Jerry Doyle, another Talk Radio Network show (ironically enough, the competition at 10 pm includes TRN's Ingraham on 'TKK). 'RKO has run him on Saturday nights but now I guess they're adding his daily show. At least I think they are--no change to website yet. Was this just for tonight? Probably not... as for Feinburg, maybe it's he who got the 9-noon slot that had been DePetro's. I would have thought they'd go for Glenn Beck from Premiere, but Beck's show originally airs at 9 am ET, while Doyle I believe is at 3 pm--so while either show would have been delayed, Doyle's is merely delayed by 7 hours, not 13. (I remember when 'RKO dumped Hannity for Savage; one reason they gave is they wanted a show that would be "live" and more timely (at that time Savage's feed was 7-10 pm, IIRC; now it's 6-9 pm) I think the TRN networks are barter--pick up the show as long as you run the ads. If this lineup stays, Red Sox games will most likely lead into Doyle rather than the acerbic Savage... -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed Jan 3 02:13:44 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 02:13:44 -0500 Subject: Herald: WTKK lineup changes Message-ID: <20070103071344.222FB1BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/messengerBlog/?p=174 Soon to be announced: 6-9 am Imus (loses last hour) 9-10 am Barnicle 10 am-noon Michael Graham 12-3 pm Eagan and Braude 3-7 pm Severin 7-9 pm O'Reilly (not sure what will air at 9 pm) "Meanwhile, Herald columnist Margery Eagan and NECN host Jim Braude are getting two hours tacked on their show. The small island of liberalism in WTKK?s line-up is going from a one-hour program to three hours, and will air between 12 p.m. and 3 p.m., sources said." Hmm! I hope they keep running Ingraham--maybe moved back to 9 pm? Note the tripling of E&B's show, "small island of liberalism" (wonder why they did that, eh?) -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed Jan 3 02:15:45 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 02:15:45 -0500 Subject: Herald: WTKK lineup changes Message-ID: <20070103071545.CDBC81BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> oops--rest of their lineup, via BostonRadio blog: >>9PM-Midnight Laura Ingraham Midnight-1AM Mike Barnicle (rebroadcast) 1-5AM John and Jeff -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From Kaimbridge@gmail.com Wed Jan 3 10:39:53 2007 From: Kaimbridge@gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 15:39:53 +0000 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes Message-ID: <459BCE49.3020304@Gmail.com> The radio "bandit" wrote, > >>9PM-Midnight Laura Ingraham > Midnight-1AM Mike Barnicle (rebroadcast) > 1-5AM John and Jeff Maybe they can pick up "Dr. Dean Edel" for 12-1am (I don't think 'RKO still actively carries him)? Personally, I'd rather hear "Lionel" from 10pm-1am! P=) ~Kaimbidge~ ----- Wikipedia?Contributor Home Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaimbridge ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed Jan 3 11:25:42 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 11:25:42 -0500 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes Message-ID: <20070103162544.139A21158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> "Kaimbridge M. GoldChild" wrote: >>Maybe they can pick up "Dr. Dean Edel" for 12-1am (I don't think 'RKO still actively carries him)? Personally, I'd rather hear "Lionel" from 10pm-1am! P=) There's an effort to bring prog talk back to Boston, but I wonder if some fans of libtalk tried to contact WRKO or WTKK to pitch the idea of carrying one or two shows, even if tape delayed; Steph Miller or Ed Schultz from Jones, or Thom Hartmann from AAR. 'RKO could have put one of them on tape delay at 7 pm (when no sports) or 10 pm or even Miller live at 9 am. Same for 'TKK, though it appears there was no room in the lineup to do changes other than curbing the hours of three shows to make room for expanded Eagan and Braude, etc. Given the state of local radio currently, you have to wonder if AAR/prog. talk would be back within the next couple months, later in the year, or not till next year on a station fully committed to the format. If these options are low then trying to at least get one show on a WRKO or a WTKK would be better than nothing. -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From lglavin@mail.com Wed Jan 3 11:30:14 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 11:30:14 -0500 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes Message-ID: <20070103163014.F1DE61024B@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kaimbridge M. GoldChild" >To: Boston-Radio-Interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes >Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 15:39:53 +0000 >The radio "bandit" wrote, > >>9PM-Midnight Laura Ingraham > Midnight-1AM Mike Barnicle (rebroadcast) > 1-5AM John and Jeff >Maybe they can pick up "Dr. Dean Edel" for 12-1am (I don't think >'RKO still actively carries him)? >Personally, I'd rather hear "Lionel" from 10pm-1am! P=) If you care to, you can hear Lionel on WWKB-AM 1520 if you live more than one-mille from the WWZN transmitter. I guess he's also on WOR-AM, but 'KB really blasts...and WCAP-AM 980 Loal carries a tape-delayed version on weekends. -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed Jan 3 12:05:16 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 12:05:16 -0500 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes Message-ID: <20070103170519.E7ACD1F50B3@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Laurence Glavin wrote: >>You are undoubtedly a brilliant man because these were EXACTLY my thoughts when I read about the changes at 'RKO and 969 FM Talk. It gives you an idea of how bankrupt the, um, "brain trussed" at WRKO are by their act of putting a third-rate right-wing clone on instead of grabbing a chance to put a tape-delayed "Stephanie Miller" on at 10:00 pm before somebody else grabs her (figureatively speaking). Right. Usually I don't listen to Savage except maybe in short doses... (Only potential drawback to putting Miller on at 10 would be the same thing that would happen if they put tape delayed Beck on at that hour: talk that's 13 hours old. Something important could have broken in the news since then, and either delayed-Miller or delayed-Beck would be talking about "old news".) By the way, the Globe mentions the WTKK lineup changes and has a quote from their Phil Redo about the importance of local shows in a talk lineup for "terrestrial radio". Number of weekday local shows that aired on 1200 & 1430 during the just over 2 years of the prog talk format? Zero. (also WTTT has no local shows though IIRC they had Don Feder on mornings briefly) http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2007/01/03/tkk_changes_shows_times_and_lengths/ As for 'RKO their main focus, if the constantly run promos are any indication, is: "IT'S GONE! BIG PAPI STRIKES AGAIN!" Whatever talk shows are to air on the nights when there isn't baseball (or hoops) is not as important to them, I'd guess... -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From lglavin@mail.com Wed Jan 3 11:46:02 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 11:46:02 -0500 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes Message-ID: <20070103164605.1ADBD1CE308@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bob Nelson" >To: "Kaimbridge M. GoldChild" , "BostonRadio Mailing List" >Subject: Re: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes >Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 11:25:42 -0500 "Kaimbridge M. GoldChild" wrote: >> Maybe they can pick up "Dr. Dean Edel" for 12-1am (I don't think 'RKO still actively carries him)? Personally, I'd rather hear "Lionel" from 10pm-1am! P=) >There's an effort to bring prog talk back to Boston, but I wonder if >some fans of libtalk tried to contact WRKO or WTKK to pitch the idea of >carrying one or two shows, even if tape delayed; Steph Miller or >Ed Schultz from Jones, or Thom Hartmann from AAR. 'RKO could have >put one of them on tape delay at 7 pm (when no sports) or 10 pm >or even Miller live at 9 am. You are undoubtedly a brilliant man because these were EXACTLY my thoughts when I read about the changes at 'RKO and 969 FM Talk. It gives you an idea of how bankrupt the, um, "brain trussed" at WRKO are by their act of putting a third-rate right-wing clone on instead of grabbing a chance to put a tape-delayed "Stephanie Miller" on at 10:00 pm before somebody else grabs her (figureatively speaking). -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Jan 4 03:31:16 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 03:31:16 -0500 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes Message-ID: <20070104083117.3729216427A@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=175210 The Herald talks about the expanded Eagan and Braude show; it says the hosts are "among the few liberal yakkers" in town and that new Gov. Deval Patrick has agreed to do regular gigs with them. Also one reason is given for Barnicle's show being chopped in half: low ratings. Kudos to WRKO, WTKK, and WBZ for their commitment to local talk shows. Seems (except for WBZ) that most shows at night will be syndicated, but I'm sure it's that way in many other cities across the nation--and on many stations, sports winds up pre-empting these syndie shows often. (When I'd heard that WPHT in Phil. was getting that short-lived Severin show, which aired at 7 pm, I thought: Why are they bothering? He'll be pre-empted so often by Phillies games that he won't really be able to get much of a following...) -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From fox893@yahoo.com Thu Jan 4 07:21:05 2007 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 04:21:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Mike Gallgher Message-ID: <546305.50129.qm@web39101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> When does Mike Gallgher air live? I listen between noon and 3 on WLOB and it seems really choppy. Especially around callers. Is this post live editing, or does he consistantly hit the dump button? ***Looking for a DJ for your club/bar, event, or wedding? Visit me on the web! http://www.myspace.com/graniteproductionsdjcooperfox ***Commercial Production Demo at: http://cooperfox.voice123.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From revdoug1@verizon.net Thu Jan 4 08:55:12 2007 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 08:55:12 -0500 Subject: Mike Gallgher References: <546305.50129.qm@web39101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005401c73007$f5184020$6501a8c0@pastor2> This brings up a pet peeve of mine. Why do radio stations do delayed broadcasts of talk shows? This makes no sense to me, given that the point of a talk show is interaction between the host and his/her listeners. (Unless you just want to sit and listen to the host yak. It goes without saying that some hosts revel in their pontificating.) -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cooper Fox" To: Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 7:21 AM Subject: Mike Gallgher > When does Mike Gallgher air live? I listen between > noon and 3 on WLOB and it seems really choppy. > Especially around callers. Is this post live editing, > or does he consistantly hit the dump button? > > ***Looking for a DJ for your club/bar, event, or wedding? Visit me on the web! > http://www.myspace.com/graniteproductionsdjcooperfox > > ***Commercial Production Demo at: > http://cooperfox.voice123.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com From lglavin@mail.com Thu Jan 4 10:48:48 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 10:48:48 -0500 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes Message-ID: <20070104154849.2A5871024B@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bob Nelson" >To: "BostonRadio Mailing List" >Subject: Re: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes >Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 03:31:16 -0500 >http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=175210 The natural question is: if Eagan and Braude got such high ratings while phone-it-in-Barnicle did the opposite, why didn't they ****can Barnicle long ago and run E&B then? -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Jan 4 10:56:12 2007 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 10:56:12 -0500 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes In-Reply-To: <20070104083117.3729216427A@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070104083117.3729216427A@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: At 3:31 AM -0500 1/4/07, Bob Nelson wrote: >http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=175210 > >The Herald talks about the expanded Eagan and Braude show It should be noted that Eagan and Braude was originally a three hour show, it was chopped to one hour when O'Reilly started airing on the station. So this just restores the show to it's former length. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Jan 4 10:54:52 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 10:54:52 -0500 Subject: Mike Gallgher References: <546305.50129.qm@web39101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003301c73018$af93dd00$19eefea9@satpro4600> My impression is that Gallagher airs live from 9:00AM to noon Eastern. I think WTTT carries that part of Salem's lineup live. Bennet 6-9, Gallagher 9-12, Prager 12-3, Hewitt 3-6. Dunno who follows Hewitt or whether or not WTTT carries that show live. Somewhere in the mix is Laura Schlessinger who may or may not even be on WTTT. I'm pretty sure she's on WROL at night. I'm continually amused by the fact that, if WROL ever gets a CP to build its 5 kW night facilities, one of the few places that will get a great signal will be Provincetown. Nothing like beaming Dr Laura across that clear salt-water path to her devoted fans in Provincetown ;>) -- Dan Strassberg dan.strassberg@att.net Fax: 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cooper Fox" To: Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 7:21 AM Subject: Mike Gallgher > When does Mike Gallgher air live? I listen between > noon and 3 on WLOB and it seems really choppy. > Especially around callers. Is this post live editing, > or does he consistantly hit the dump button? > > ***Looking for a DJ for your club/bar, event, or wedding? Visit me on the web! > http://www.myspace.com/graniteproductionsdjcooperfox > > ***Commercial Production Demo at: > http://cooperfox.voice123.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Jan 4 11:35:33 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 11:35:33 -0500 Subject: WRKO lineup mystery Message-ID: <20070104163538.7150DFE84@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> I went to the WRKO "Program Schedule" page and found that it now says To Be Announced from 5-6 am (had been reruns of shows), 9-noon (DePetro's old slot), and now 7-10 pm as well! (With Savage listed at 10 pm) Todd Feinburg is still listed as doing a show on weekends (his nationally syndicated one). When you go to the links on the left you'll see Feinburg listed as a talk host under Howie Carr, but when you click the link his page comes up and it simply says he's on weekends (not daily). Speculation time: now that Tom Finneran may be available (said to be pleading guilty to perjury charges and will serve no jail time, just pay a fine and be under probation) is it possible he's headed to that morning slot? DePetro's site says a "big announcement is coming"--am guessing he's headed to 'HJJ in Providence, but would 'RKO actually be bringing him back? (In related news, Donald Trump is marrying Rosie O'Donnell and Red Sox bleacher seats are being marked down to $2 each...) What about Glenn Beck or Stephanie Miller in that 9 am slot? Is Jerry Doyle being added to nights or not? -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From lglavin@mail.com Thu Jan 4 10:52:19 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 10:52:19 -0500 Subject: Mike Gallgher Message-ID: <20070104155219.C35191024B@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Cooper Fox" >To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org >Subject: Mike Gallgher >Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 04:21:05 -0800 (PST) >When does Mike Gallgher air live? I listen between >noon and 3 on WLOB and it seems really choppy. >Especially around callers. Is this post live editing, >or does he consistantly hit the dump button? Mike Gallagher's show airs from 9:00 am till 11:45 am (at 11:45 they pick up Paul Harvey) on listener-challenged WTTT-AM 1150 in Boston. I assume the show is live then. -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Jan 4 11:00:56 2007 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 11:00:56 -0500 Subject: Mike Gallgher In-Reply-To: <005401c73007$f5184020$6501a8c0@pastor2> References: <546305.50129.qm@web39101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <005401c73007$f5184020$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: At 8:55 AM -0500 1/4/07, Doug Drown wrote: >This brings up a pet peeve of mine. Why do radio stations do delayed >broadcasts of talk shows? This makes no sense to me, given that the point >of a talk show is interaction between the host and his/her listeners. >(Unless you just want to sit and listen to the host yak. It goes without >saying that some hosts revel in their pontificating.) As long as there are enough callers to give the host a base of support or someone to argue against, that's enough for them. The issue isn't anything like fairness or getting all points of view heard, it's simply about ratings. As for why they delay, it's mostly just where a program fits in the station's schedule. On the west coast, nearly all talk programs (except local ones) are heard on a delayed basis. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Thu Jan 4 12:02:29 2007 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 12:02:29 -0500 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes References: <20070104154849.2A5871024B@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <02ab01c73022$76606a80$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > The natural question is: if Eagan and Braude got such high ratings while > phone-it-in-Barnicle did the opposite, why didn't they ****can Barnicle > long ago and run E&B then? Barnicle has "marqee value".... From lglavin@mail.com Thu Jan 4 12:19:01 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 12:19:01 -0500 Subject: Mike Gallgher Message-ID: <20070104171904.6904A1BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dan Strassberg" >To: "Cooper Fox" , "Boston Radio Interest" >Subject: Re: Mike Gallgher >Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 10:54:52 -0500 >My impression is that Gallagher airs live from 9:00AM to noon Eastern. I >think WTTT carries that part of Salem's lineup live. Bennet 6-9, Gallagher >9-12, Prager 12-3, Hewitt 3-6. Dunno who follows Hewitt or whether or not >WTTT carries that show live. Somewhere in the mix is Laura Schlessinger who >may or may not even be on WTTT. I'm pretty sure she's on WROL at night. I'm >continually amused by the fact that, if WROL ever gets a CP to build its 5 >kW night facilities, one of the few places that will get a great signal will >be Provincetown. Nothing like beaming Dr Laura across that clear salt-water >path to her devoted fans in Provincetown ;>) I thought that their original plan to switch COL to Reveah and add nighttime service with just 1 kilowatt had expired. Now, thanks to your post I note they've submitted a new application for 5 kw at night just as you described it. Hmmm...why bother since they fail to cut back to 95 watts so often? It seems to me that a radio station with a significant CP before the Commission would be more careful...you wouldn't want an inspector imposing a hefty fine while the legal niceties are going up the food chain! Going back in time, it's strange that Carberry went to all the trouble of putting a new signal on at 830 in Woostah rather than build out a 50 kw facility for WROL. WAGM in Presque Isle, ME went away and WROL already had an audience for its programming including the Irish Hit Parade and Soxas Rojas during the summer! Oh, and speaking of Presque Isle (would it become an ACTUAL isle if the polar ice caps melt?) I see that WEGP-AM 1390 has revised its CP from 50 kw to 25 kw...maybe they calculated the cost of a 50 kw transmitter and figured improved coverage in the Northern Maine wilderness would not yield much advertising revenue. -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From lglavin@mail.com Thu Jan 4 12:31:27 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 12:31:27 -0500 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes Message-ID: <20070104173139.723511BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Don A." >To: "Laurence Glavin" , "Bob Nelson" , "BostonRadio Mailing List" >Subject: Re: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes >Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 12:02:29 -0500 > The natural question is: if Eagan and Braude got such high ratings while > phone-it-in-Barnicle did the opposite, why didn't they ****can Barnicle > long ago and run E&B then? >Barnicle has "marqee value".... First of all, today's Herald item indicated he was a ratings LOSER which is all that counts really. And how is a "newpaper columnist" who appears in NO newspaper a marquee (correct spelling) name...a FADED marquee name is more like it. And to carry the thought to another "marquee" name: over and over again people have stated that although Al Franken had a "marquee" name, his show sucked (their opinion, not mine). I'm an avid Stephanie Miller fan (now limited to listening to the opening segements of each hour on stephaniemiller.com's blog) so I rarely heard Barnicle's lame show live except when S.M. was on vacation or I had occasion to hear a Barnicle rerun on the weekends. It strikes me that he doesn't bother himself with much show prep, he falls back on sports-oriented palaver, and on another board, someone posted that when he runs out of things to say, he plays a pop or jazz CD? This is a TALK-SHOW host? How can WTKK claim to be ALL talk if Barnicle is playing MUSIC? -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From lglavin@mail.com Thu Jan 4 12:34:54 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 12:34:54 -0500 Subject: Mike Gallgher Message-ID: <20070104173459.382581BF28E@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" >To: lglavin@mail.com >Subject: Re: Mike Gallgher >Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 12:27:56 -0500 >Laurence wrote-- > WAGM in Presque Isle, ME went away and WROL already had an > audience for its programming including the Irish Hit Parade and Soxas Rojas > during the summer! >WAGM is gone? That was the first station I ever consulted, way >back in 1980. Boy, it's a long drive up to Presque Isle from >Boston... I forget which month, but Scott referred to WAGM as 'now silent' on a page of his calendar. -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Thu Jan 4 12:53:54 2007 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 12:53:54 -0500 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes References: <20070104173139.723511BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20b9d01c73029$5eb103c0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > > The natural question is: if Eagan and Braude got such high ratings while > > phone-it-in-Barnicle did the opposite, why didn't they ****can Barnicle > > long ago and run E&B then? > > >Barnicle has "marquee value".... > > First of all, today's Herald item indicated he was a ratings LOSER which > is all that counts really. If you listen to WTKK, they have a lot of local/retail spots that do not depend on the ratings. They love to hear Severin talking about Ken's Steak House, or Barnicle pitching Autolines. > And how is a "newpaper columnist" who appears > in NO newspaper a marquee name...a FADED marquee name > is more like it. He is/was one of the most popular/recognizable ex-newspaper columnists in Boston right now. He is a current fill-in host on MSNBC. Is the NY post column gone? Is Chronicle over? > And to carry the thought to another "marquee" name: > over and over again people have stated that although Al Franken had a > "marquee" name, his show sucked (their opinion, not mine). That's why they keep Franken on the air. Marquee value...even though the show sucks. The million or so they spend on Franken comes back as marketing. If they used the Franken salary to buy TV ads, etc....they could never have the effect of what Franken has done for them. So, when counting up the assets and debits of the operation.....in spite of his show being bad....he ends up on the 'plus' side of the ledger. From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Jan 4 12:27:56 2007 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 12:27:56 -0500 Subject: Mike Gallgher In-Reply-To: <20070104171904.6904A1BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070104171904.6904A1BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20070104172758.11EB9646FDA@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> Laurence wrote-- >WAGM in Presque Isle, ME went away and WROL already had an >audience for its programming including the Irish Hit Parade and Soxas Rojas >during the summer! WAGM is gone? That was the first station I ever consulted, way back in 1980. Boy, it's a long drive up to Presque Isle from Boston... From elipolo@earthlink.net Thu Jan 4 13:21:05 2007 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 13:21:05 -0500 Subject: Mike Gallgher Message-ID: > > From: "Doug Drown" > To: "Cooper Fox" , > > Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 08:55:12 -0500 > Subject: Re: Mike Gallgher > > This brings up a pet peeve of mine. Why do radio stations > do delayed broadcasts of talk shows? This makes no sense > to me, given that the point of a talk show is interaction > between the host and his/her listeners. I think that talk radio has a MUCH larger audience who have absolutely no intention of ever calling in and interacting on the air than the amount of people who actually do. I'd imagine that the majority of listeners are content to be vicariously entertained by the interaction of the host and callers other than themselves. The minority of vocal people who actually call in are entertaining the silent majority of passive listeners who prefer to stay on the sidelines and just take it all in, and they get the same value out of a show that's a few hours old as one that's broadcast live in real time. I'm guessing that if talk radio ratings were limited to only the vocal people who may be likely to call in, the whole format would have probably died decades ago. EP From revdoug1@verizon.net Thu Jan 4 14:16:05 2007 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 14:16:05 -0500 Subject: Mike Gallgher References: <20070104171904.6904A1BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20070104172758.11EB9646FDA@relay6.relay.iad.emailsrvr.com> Message-ID: <004101c73034$c8dbd030$6501a8c0@pastor2> WAGM died almost twenty years ago. The owners closed up the AM and moved the programming over to the sister FM station (96.9), then known as WCXU, if memory serves. The move surprised a lot of people, as WAGM was one of the oldest radio stations in the state. WAGM-TV is still operating, under different ownership. <> It's a long drive to Presque Isle from anywhere! People from outside Maine don't realize how big this state is. I know. I'm a "transplant" myself. It's almost as far from Kittery to Fort Kent as it is from Boston to Washington. I'm not kidding. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 12:27 PM Subject: Re: Mike Gallgher > Laurence wrote-- > > >WAGM in Presque Isle, ME went away and WROL already had an > >audience for its programming including the Irish Hit Parade and Soxas Rojas > >during the summer! > > WAGM is gone? That was the first station I ever consulted, way back > in 1980. Boy, it's a long drive up to Presque Isle from Boston... > > From lglavin@mail.com Thu Jan 4 16:05:41 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 16:05:41 -0500 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes Message-ID: <20070104210543.605F21F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Don A." >To: "Laurence Glavin" , "Bob Nelson" , "BostonRadio Mailing List" >Subject: Re: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes >Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 12:53:54 -0500 >If you listen to WTKK, they have a lot of local/retail spots that do not >depend on the ratings. They love to hear Severin talking about Ken's Steak >House, or Barnicle pitching Autolines. Let me get this straight: radio in general is in a constant state of turmoil because of declining listening patterns (I believe a firm called Bridge Media has chronicled this) and defections of advertisers themselves to other media. Yet a powerful radio station in a major market keeps a guy on-the-air so a few business owners can get a "thrill" by hearing a couple of the station's employees voice their spots! Duh. >He is a current fill-in host on MSNBC. I occasionally view MSNBC, especially Keith Olbermann, but it's still the third-ranked cable news outlet. If the population at-large is only dimly aware of several of their headliners (Tucker Carlson, Joe Scarborough), where does that place fill-ins? -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Thu Jan 4 16:16:54 2007 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 16:16:54 -0500 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes References: <20070104210543.605F21F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <00ab01c73045$aeca03e0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > Let me get this straight: radio in general is in a constant state of turmoil > because of declining listening patterns (I believe a firm called > Bridge Media has chronicled this) and defections of advertisers > themselves to other media. Yet a powerful radio station in a major > market keeps a guy on-the-air so a few business owners can get a "thrill" > by hearing a couple of the station's employees voice their spots! Duh. No not just that....Duh! But when you put the assetts of a station on one side and the debits on another...people like Barnicle and Franken end up on the asset side.....even with cruddy ratings. Barnicle is on MSNBC plenty....and on Chronicle....and his visibility certainly helps lift the station. Just like a name on a movie marquee can bring in people who wouldn't normally attend. Can just a name make a stinker movie a hit? Probably not, but studios have been doing the same thing for years. > >He is a current fill-in host on MSNBC. > > I occasionally view MSNBC, especially Keith Olbermann, but it's still the > third-ranked cable news outlet. If the population at-large is only > dimly aware of several of their headliners (Tucker Carlson, Joe Scarborough), > where does that place fill-ins? He fills in for Chris Matthews a lot. (And Chris Matthews is more popular than Carlson or Scarborough right now.) In any event, it's still it's a plus. From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Jan 4 16:20:17 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 16:20:17 -0500 Subject: Herald: WRKO may sign Finneran for AM drive Message-ID: <20070104212018.8C3381CE308@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> Via Boston Radio Watch, and directly from the Herald http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=175334 Entercom is still talking with former MA Speaker of the House Tom Finneran about a show at the station, though apparently it's the AM Drive slot, not DePetro's old 9-noon show. (Ironically enough, right now Howie Carr's page on the 'RKO site has a poll as to whether or not Finneran should be doing jail time. Yes is up to 91 per cent.) -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From lglavin@mail.com Thu Jan 4 16:24:22 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 16:24:22 -0500 Subject: Boston Herald LtE On Progressive Radio Message-ID: <20070104212423.8D362478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> An individual whose name I don't recognize from this list or radio-info.com's Boston board sent a Letter to the Editor that appeared in today's (012/04/07) paper. He opines about the disappearance of "progressive" talk from WXKS-AM 1430 and WKOX-AM 1200. The URL is as follows: http://news.bostonherald.com/editorial/view.bg?articleid=175223 I'd be inspired to submit a rebuttal with some degree of confidence that the paper would run it BECAUSE THEY PRINTED A LETTER BY ME YESTERDAY: http://news.bostonherald.com/editorial/view.bg?articleid=175046 Therefore I guess it would be unlikely the editors at the paper would run TWO letters by the same individual. The Herald is replete with radio stuff today: one item about a show no one will hear (shades of the Beatles' "Eleanor Rigby) on WTTT-AM: http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=175231 And the possibility that self-admitted prevaricator Tom Finneran could become an 'RKO talk show host: http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articledid=175334 -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From lglavin@mail.com Thu Jan 4 16:28:43 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 16:28:43 -0500 Subject: Herald: WRKO may sign Finneran for AM drive Message-ID: <20070104212844.0C1BD478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bob Nelson" >To: "BostonRadio Mailing List" >Subject: Herald: WRKO may sign Finneran for AM drive >Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 16:20:17 -0500 >Entercom is still talking with former MA Speaker of the House Tom Finneran >about a show at the station, though apparently it's the AM Drive slot, >not DePetro's old 9-noon show. (Ironically enough, right now Howie >Carr's page on the 'RKO site has a poll as to whether or not Finneran >should be doing jail time. Yes is up to 91 per cent.) Whatever else you may think about Howie, he has gonads! He didn't hesitate to excoriate the washed-up and discredited Mike Barnicle EVEN while the Herald ran some of his tiresome retreads of columns! -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From sid@wrko.com Thu Jan 4 16:29:07 2007 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 14:29:07 -0700 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes Message-ID: >>Let me get this straight: radio in general is in a constant state of turmoil because of declining listening patterns (I believe a firm called Bridge Media has chronicled this) and defections of advertisers themselves to other media. Yet a powerful radio station in a major market keeps a guy on-the-air so a few business owners can get a "thrill" by hearing a couple of the station's employees voice their spots! Duh.<< Ain't no "thrill." The reason is lots o' money. Famous people have always sold things, whether it's Ronald Reagan touting General Electric products or Jay Severin plugging Ken's Steak House. Jay is famous in this market, and clearly the advertisers want him to voice their commercials. Advertisers pay a premium...sometimes a whopping premium...to get the on-air hosts to voice their spot. Whether or not it's ever been proven that identifiable personalities sell more of a product than a disembodied voice, I couldn't say...but as long as the advertisers believe it, the stations will offer it, and make lots o' bucks doing so. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From fox893@yahoo.com Thu Jan 4 15:40:15 2007 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 12:40:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Mike Gallgher In-Reply-To: <20070104173459.382581BF28E@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <782588.13856.qm@web39107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > > >WAGM is gone? That was the first station I ever > consulted, way > >back in 1980. Boy, it's a long drive up to Presque > Isle from > >Boston... > That's actually where my wife and I are heading this weekend. Never realized there was a WAGM radio. Since I was a kid there was a WAGM-TV that operates as a CBS affil. ***Looking for a DJ for your club/bar, event, or wedding? Visit me on the web! http://www.myspace.com/graniteproductionsdjcooperfox ***Commercial Production Demo at: http://cooperfox.voice123.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Jan 4 17:02:52 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 17:02:52 -0500 Subject: Boston Herald LtE On Progressive Radio Message-ID: <20070104220255.312BB164279@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> Yes, I saw that letter to the editor in the print version of today's Herald, and also the bit about the WTTT show. They mention Jimmi Carter working for WTTT--I believe he was the producer of Gene Burns' show on WRKO (Gene used to mention his name at the end of every show.) If they don't publish your letter of rebuttal since they might have a restriction about publishing two letters by the same individual in the same week, maybe someone else will. That WTTT show about the Middle East airs on Sunday afternoons and probably will befall the same fate (for the next few week or two at least) that Jeff Santos got with his WXKS/WKOX show: not just on a weak signal, but right up against the Patriots game! And yes, Finneran could well become a talk host at WRKO. "If you're indicted, you're invited", as Howie might say. I don't believe anything has popped up in the Globe or Phoenix about the loss of Air America Boston since the change actually happened, but the Herald had that article from last week about the effort to bring it back. -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From kc1ih@mac.com Thu Jan 4 16:59:32 2007 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 16:59:32 -0500 Subject: Mike Gallgher In-Reply-To: <782588.13856.qm@web39107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20070104173459.382581BF28E@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <782588.13856.qm@web39107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200701042159.l04LxbKJ002767@mac.com> At 03:40 PM 1/4/2007, Cooper Fox wrote: >Never realized there was a WAGM radio. Since I was a >kid there was a WAGM-TV that operates as a CBS affil. I believe that at one time that station was an affiliate of all 3 networks that existed at the time. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From hykker@grolen.com Thu Jan 4 18:52:06 2007 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 18:52:06 -0500 Subject: Mike Gallgher In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20070104184953.01a33ba8@grolen.com> Eli Polonsky wrote: >I think that talk radio has a MUCH larger audience who have >absolutely no intention of ever calling in and interacting >on the air than the amount of people who actually do. > >I'd imagine that the majority of listeners are content to >be vicariously entertained by the interaction of the host >and callers other than themselves. The minority of vocal >people who actually call in are entertaining the silent >majority of passive listeners who prefer to stay on the >sidelines and just take it all in, and they get the same >value out of a show that's a few hours old as one that's >broadcast live in real time. > >I'm guessing that if talk radio ratings were limited to >only the vocal people who may be likely to call in, the >whole format would have probably died decades ago. It's been said that less than 5% of your audience will EVER call the station for ANY reason...I'm sure the percentage of those who actually want to go on the air and argue with a talk host is considerably smaller. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.5/616 - Release Date: 1/4/2007 From lglavin@mail.com Thu Jan 4 19:30:04 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 19:30:04 -0500 Subject: Boston Herald LtE On Progressive Radio Message-ID: <20070105003004.61E42164279@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bob Nelson" >To: "Laurence Glavin" , "BostonRadio Mailing List" >Subject: Re: Boston Herald LtE On Progressive Radio >Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 17:02:52 -0500 >Yes, I saw that letter to the editor in the print version of >today's Herald, and also >the bit about the WTTT show. They mention Jimmi Carter working for >WTTT--I believe he >was the producer of Gene Burns' show on WRKO (Gene used to mention his name at >the end of every show.) >If they don't publish your letter of rebuttal since they might have >a restriction >about publishing two letters by the same individual in the same >week, maybe someone >else will. If I had submitted a letter, I'm not sure it would have been a rebuttal but more of a clarification. The writer cited a rating for WKOX/WXKS that was the 12-and-over Mon-thru-Sunday number. The outlets ranged from unreceivable at night (WXKS-AM) to somewhat constricted (WKOX with a fan-shaped pattern from downtown Framingham to some route 128 communities) During live Air America and Jones shows, there was enough listenership that the shows that accepted calls got plenty from Boston (you can't say that about WTTT) which isn't a lead-pipe criterion of avid listenership but indicatesd something higher than the number cited in the Herald. Al Franken did a live show from the W-i-i-i-i-i-llllbur Theater (managed by CCU so they got it essentially for free) and he nearly filled the place on a Monday afternoon, which is more than some shows there did on Saturday nights. -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From revdoug1@verizon.net Thu Jan 4 18:39:52 2007 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 18:39:52 -0500 Subject: Mike Gallgher References: <20070104173459.382581BF28E@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <782588.13856.qm@web39107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200701042159.l04LxbKJ002767@mac.com> Message-ID: <006601c73059$a232cf90$6501a8c0@pastor2> WAGM-TV is now affiliated solely with CBS, but from its inception until the '90s it was a primary CBS affiliate that had secondary affiliations with NBC and ABC. It was one of only two stations in the country that had that arrangement. Cable eliminated the need for it. WAGM used to carry news actualities from the CBC, too, and may still do it. I'm not sure. I don't get up that way very often. I'm halfway up the state, and Presque Isle is 5 hours from here! -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Weil" To: Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 4:59 PM Subject: Re: Mike Gallgher > At 03:40 PM 1/4/2007, Cooper Fox wrote: > > >Never realized there was a WAGM radio. Since I was a > >kid there was a WAGM-TV that operates as a CBS affil. > > I believe that at one time that station was an affiliate of all 3 > networks that existed at the time. > > > Larry Weil > Lake Wobegone, NH > > From lglavin@mail.com Thu Jan 4 19:41:28 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 19:41:28 -0500 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes Message-ID: <20070105004129.DDB0C164279@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Sid Schweiger" >To: "BostonRadio Mailing List" >Subject: Re: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes >Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 14:29:07 -0700 >Ain't no "thrill." The reason is lots o' money. Famous people have >always sold things, whether it's Ronald Reagan touting General Electric >products or Jay Severin plugging Ken's Steak House. Jay is famous in >this market, and clearly the advertisers want him to voice their >commercials. >Advertisers pay a premium...sometimes a whopping premium...to get the >on-air hosts to voice their spot. Whether or not it's ever been proven >that identifiable personalities sell more of a product than a >disembodied voice, I couldn't say...but as long as the advertisers >believe it, the stations will offer it, and make lots o' bucks doing >so. Yow...talk about missing the point. Whether a famous person voicing a spot sells cars or mediocre meals, it doesn't therefore make sense for a full-power major market station to let that person be a speed bump in their day's progression from morning drive, mid-morning, noonish, and afternoon drive. A couple of sources, a daily newspaper and some internet sites, have mentioned that Barnicles' ratings are sub-par. Maybe they erred, but it does appear that he puts out a less than stellar effort. If he rambles on about sports and plays music CD's in that one-hour, I don't see that as compelling radio; granted at this point there is no major competition from 9:00 am till 10:00 unless WRKO pulls out of its tailspin there. The BBC on WBUR is ok, but now NPR is thinking of putting on a "Morning Edition" clone for 18-to-49ers which WBUR could be expected to air in that time slot. -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From sid@wrko.com Thu Jan 4 22:00:09 2007 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 20:00:09 -0700 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes Message-ID: >>Whether a famous person voicing a spot sells cars or mediocre meals, it doesn't therefore make sense for a full-power major market station to let that person be a speed bump in their day's progression from morning drive, mid-morning, noonish, and afternoon drive. A couple of sources, a daily newspaper and some internet sites, have mentioned that Barnicles' ratings are sub-par. Maybe they erred, but it does appear that he puts out a less than stellar effort. If he rambles on about sports and plays music CD's in that one-hour, I don't see that as compelling radio...<< So, because YOU don't see that as "compelling radio," or YOU think he doesn't give it his all, it makes no sense. Sure. One thing you learn being around radio sales people is that there are myriad ways to sell radio, and most have NOTHING to do with ratings. Barnicle is in the perfect place for his name and his talents: talk-radio, a format whose target demo is 35-64. Given that fact, plus the fact that the average age of newspaper readers these days is 65, those people know who he is and remember that he wrote for both Boston dailies. The bottom line here is literally the bottom line. If he wasn't making WTKK money, he'd be gone. Period. His salary would not be justifiable. The fact that he's there means that having him on the air brings in the bucks. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom New England WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WKAF - WMKK - WRKO - WVEI AM/FM 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From joe@attorneyross.com Fri Jan 5 01:10:51 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 01:10:51 -0500 Subject: Boston Herald LtE On Progressive Radio In-Reply-To: <20070104212423.8D362478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <459DA59B.24262.711C77@localhost> On 4 Jan 2007 at 16:24, Laurence Glavin wrote: > An individual whose name I don't recognize from this list or > radio-info.com's Boston board sent a Letter to the Editor that > appeared in today's (012/04/07) paper. He opines about the > disappearance of "progressive" talk from WXKS-AM 1430 and WKOX-AM > 1200. The URL is as follows: A woman who stood just in front of me in the receiving line to shake hands with Governor Patrick this afternoon mentioned how upset she was at the fall of Air America. She didn't realize that the network was still operating, but had just lost its Boston affiliate. I set her straight and told her how to listen online, but she was still upset that she couldn't listen in her car any more. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Fri Jan 5 02:39:43 2007 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 02:39:43 -0500 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes References: <20070105004129.DDB0C164279@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <037a01c7309d$66edaec0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > Yow...talk about missing the point. Whether a famous person voicing a > spot sells cars or mediocre meals, it doesn't therefore make sense for > a full-power major market station to let that person be a speed bump in their > day's progression from morning drive, mid-morning, noonish, and afternoon drive. Sometimes it does! As Sid pointed out, sometimes sales trumps programming! However, it's not just the live reads.... We're back to marquee value. But when you put the assetts of a station on one side and the debits on another...people like Barnicle and Franken end up on the asset side.....even with cruddy ratings. Barnicle is on MSNBC plenty....and on Chronicle....and his visibility certainly helps lift the station. Just like a name on a movie marquee can bring in people who wouldn't normally attend. Can just a name make a stinker movie a hit? Probably not, but studios have been doing the same thing for years. > >He is a current fill-in host on MSNBC. > > I occasionally view MSNBC, especially Keith Olbermann, but it's still the > third-ranked cable news outlet. If the population at-large is only > dimly aware of several of their headliners (Tucker Carlson, Joe Scarborough), > where does that place fill-ins? He fills in for Chris Matthews a lot. (And Chris Matthews is more popular than Carlson or Scarborough right now.) In any event, it's still it's a plus. > So, because YOU don't see that as "compelling radio," or YOU think he > doesn't give it his all, it makes no sense. You bet! ;-) Those of us who have been on BRI awhile know Mr. Glavin believes his tastes are the ones programmers should cater to... ;-) From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri Jan 5 04:18:36 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 04:18:36 -0500 Subject: Boston Herald LtE On Progressive Radio Message-ID: <20070105091837.07A271024B@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> Laurence wrote: >>If I had submitted a letter, I'm not sure it would have been a rebuttal but more of a clarification. The writer cited a rating for WKOX/WXKS that was the 12-and-over Mon-thru-Sunday number. Yes, and I have no access to their 25-54s... Agreed on their signal limitations. How would, say, Air America have done had it been at 850, 92.9, 96.9, etc.? By the way it now seems from WRKO's site that Feinburg has nailed down that 9-noon slot (sorry any Beck or Steph Miller fans) and will also continue to have his national show (weekends) aired there as well. Will Finneran get that morning drive show? He is due to plead his case in court today (and his perhaps-future-colleague Howie Carr says he'll be there). -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri Jan 5 04:38:19 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 04:38:19 -0500 Subject: Herald article on WRKO changes Message-ID: <20070105093819.9F0551158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=175444 Herald article says that at least for now, Todd Feinburg will air 9-noon on WRKO as the search for a permanent replacement for John DePetro continues. Meanwhile on non-game nights (such as last night), it will air Savage at 7 pm and Jerry Doyle at 10 pm, but when there are games, Savage will air at 10. Nothing like being consistently inconsistent. When's Savage on? Depends on whether or not the Sox or Celts have a game... >>Sources say one option being eyed for WRKO is a talk show with rotating cohosts and guests, similar to sister station WEEI?s ?The Big Show.? Interesting...and I wonder if sports talk content might wind up on WRKO somehow...? -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From Kaimbridge@gmail.com Fri Jan 5 12:51:58 2007 From: Kaimbridge@gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 17:51:58 +0000 Subject: Wikipedia: TV Schedules Copyrightable? Message-ID: <459E903E.3060509@Gmail.com> There is a debate over in Wikipedia that some of us Radio-TV geeks may find interesting??whether or not TV shedules are copyrightable!: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Every_single_article_in_Category:Television_schedules P=) P=) P=) ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wikipedia?Contributor Home Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaimbridge ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From lglavin@mail.com Fri Jan 5 13:44:46 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 13:44:46 -0500 Subject: Boston Herald LtE On Progressive Radio Message-ID: <20070105184450.08795478088@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "A. Joseph Ross" >To: boston-radio-interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org, "Laurence Glavin" >Subject: Re: Boston Herald LtE On Progressive Radio >Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 01:10:51 >A woman who stood just in front of me in the receiving line to shake >hands with Governor Patrick this afternoon mentioned how upset she >was at the fall of Air America. She didn't realize that the network >was still operating, but had just lost its Boston affiliate. I set >her straight and told her how to listen online, but she was still >upset that she couldn't listen in her car any more. That's an excellent story Joe. Why not put together a letter to the editor at the Herald with that information; they might just publish it. It also answers the writer here who conflates broadcast radio and iPods(tm) and the internets. -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From lglavin@mail.com Fri Jan 5 13:56:15 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 13:56:15 -0500 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes Message-ID: <20070105185619.BF4AC4780B1@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Don A." >To: "Laurence Glavin" , "Sid Schweiger" , "BostonRadio Mailing List" >Subject: Re: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes >Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 02:39:43 -0500 >Those of us who have been on BRI awhile know Mr. Glavin believes his tastes are the ones programmers should cater to... ;-) Hmmm, let's see...there a reports (not by me) that the Barnicle enterprise has not been a ratings leader, so to paraphrase Eddie McCormick "if Mike Barnicle's name had been John DePetro(sp?) he'd be gone by now". If he had been ratings challenged especially when Stephanie Miller was available in convenient form (i.e. terrestrial radio), I might not be alone in such an opinion. And let's look at] (definitely NOT listen to) WCRB in its last year under the ownership of Charles River Breeding Laboratories, I mean Broadcasting (I always get them confused)...a 12-plus ratings decline of a full-percentage point (to exactly the same number in the latest Artbitrends(tm) as the vastly superior KING-FM Seattle in a similar-sized market) and a decline in REVENUE of about one-million dollars accoring to bostonradiowatch.com. Wow... if they weren't in the process of being sold, they definitely could have used the services of a consultant who thought like ME. -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Fri Jan 5 14:01:48 2007 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 14:01:48 -0500 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes References: <20070105185619.BF4AC4780B1@ws1-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <2faa101c730fb$f9927cc0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > >Those of us who have been on BRI awhile know Mr. Glavin believes his tastes > are the ones programmers should cater to... ;-) > > > >> they definitely >> could have used the services of a consultant who thought like ME. I think there will come a day when you will pine for the days of Mario Mazza and Charles River Broadcasting. ;-) From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Fri Jan 5 14:06:19 2007 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 14:06:19 -0500 Subject: After guilty plea, Finneran says : 'I am truly sorry' Message-ID: <2faa701c730fc$968467a0$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Finneran: Guilty Plea By Shelley Murphy, Globe Staff "Former House speaker Thomas M. Finneran avoided prison time by pleading guilty today to obstruction of justice in exchange for federal prosecutors' dropping perjury charges against him." Now that he's pleaded guilty and avoided jail time, he can take the WRKO job! From raccoonradio@mail.com Fri Jan 5 15:06:01 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 15:06:01 -0500 Subject: After guilty plea, Finneran says : 'I am truly sorry' Message-ID: <20070105200603.812FA1158CC@ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com> The Herald said that Entercom will meet with Finneran next week to discuss that job. -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From lglavin@mail.com Fri Jan 5 15:08:15 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 15:08:15 -0500 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes Message-ID: <20070105200816.3A3F91F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Don A." >To: "Laurence Glavin" , "Sid Schweiger" , "BostonRadio Mailing List" >Subject: Re: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes >Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 14:01:4 > >I think There's no evidence of that. > there will come a day when you will pine for the days of Mario Mazza >and Charles River Broadcasting. ;-) I'd have to have a lobotomy first. -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Fri Jan 5 15:13:05 2007 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 15:13:05 -0500 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes References: <20070105200816.3A3F91F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <2fc7401c73105$ef16e100$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > > there will come a day when you will pine for the days of Mario Mazza > >and Charles River Broadcasting. ;-) > > I'd have to have a lobotomy first. Or at least come out from your self-centered world. From lglavin@mail.com Fri Jan 5 15:13:26 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 15:13:26 -0500 Subject: After guilty plea, Finneran says : 'I am truly sorry' Message-ID: <20070105201326.3D7F11F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bob Nelson" >To: "Don A." , "BostonRadio Mailing List" >Subject: Re: After guilty plea, Finneran says : 'I am truly sorry' >Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 15:06:01 -0500 >The Herald said that Entercom will meet with Finneran next week >to discuss that job. Dan Kennedy's media blog, available through Romenesko, compares the Herald's coverage with that of the Globe concerning Finneran's job longevity at the Biotech Council. The Tomster is making BIG BUX there and it appears to me that WRKO couldn't compete unless they fired the news staff just to afford him! Only if the Herald is right and his tenure as a flack is in jeopardy could I see him taking the pay cut and appearing at 680 on the AM dial. -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com Fri Jan 5 15:15:02 2007 From: Donald_Astelle@yahoo.com (Don A.) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 15:15:02 -0500 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes References: <20070105200816.3A3F91F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <2fc8a01c73106$302bf360$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> > I'd have to have a lobotomy first. You never know, try it, might be an improvement. From lglavin@mail.com Fri Jan 5 17:25:42 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 17:25:42 -0500 Subject: Wikipedia: TV Schedules Copyrightable? Message-ID: <20070105222543.7D016164279@ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kaimbridge M. GoldChild" >To: Boston-Radio-Interest@rolinin.bostonradio.org >Subject: Wikipedia: TV Schedules Copyrightable? >Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 17:51:58 +0000 >There is a debate over in Wikipedia that some of us Radio-TV geeks >may find interesting??whether or not TV shedules are >copyrightable!: >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Every_single_article_in_Category:Television_schedules >P=) P=) P=) >~Kaimbridge~ >----- >Wikipedia?Contributor Home Page: Yikes...to quote Don Imus, it makes my hair hurt. I'm also a Wikipedia member...my latest edit was to the entry for 'Peter Lieberson'. >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaimbridge >***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From wollman@csail.mit.edu Fri Jan 5 23:22:52 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 23:22:52 -0500 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Herald: WTKK lineup changes In-Reply-To: <2fc8a01c73106$302bf360$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <20070105200816.3A3F91F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> <2fc8a01c73106$302bf360$767ffea9@hsd1.ma.comcast.net> Message-ID: <17823.9244.759816.637244@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < said: >> I'd have to have a lobotomy first. > You never know, try it, might be an improvement. This is not acceptable behavior on this list. -GAWollman From fox893@yahoo.com Mon Jan 8 09:31:22 2007 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 06:31:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: WAGM-TV Message-ID: <20070108143123.27572.qmail@web39102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Last week, there was talk of WAGM(Presque Isle ME) radio and TV. I had a chance to watch WAGM while I was home(Houlton) over the weekend. This must be due to small market size, but they are running a combo of CBS and Fox programming. I saw promos for the Pats/Jets game(CBS) followed by a promo for the new season of 24(Fox). Anywhere else this happens? ***Looking for a DJ for your club/bar, event, or wedding? Visit me on the web! http://www.myspace.com/graniteproductionsdjcooperfox ***Commercial Production Demo at: http://cooperfox.voice123.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lglavin@mail.com Mon Jan 8 14:13:23 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 14:13:23 -0500 Subject: WLLH-AM Lowell Transmitter On-Air (With IBOC?) Message-ID: <20070108191333.F0FAA1F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Just to acquaint BRIGgers in other pahts of New England: WLLH-AM 1400 is licensed to Lowell, MA, and if you went by the fcc.gov's website, you'd never know there's a 70-year-old experimental authorization for a synchronous operation in Lawrence. As Mark Watson has pointed out, one of the transmitters (lately Lowell) can go off-the-air and the other covers the area at least during the day. Well, a couple of weeks ago, the Lowell transmitter powered down making the "experimental" antenna the WLLH tower of record. My travels took me to Lowell today, and just for fun, I went over to the transmitter site, and lo and behold, WLLH Lowell was on-the-air... not only that, but there was significan hash from 1350 to 1430 (so you had WLLH hash fighting it out with WXKS hash). It's possible that the engineers had taken WLLH/Lowell off-the-air to install the IBOC system, which raises deux questions (a little French lingo): if this hash is due to HD AM radio facilities being installed, have they yet done so at the mother ship, WAMG-AM 890 COL Dedham? If not, why would they do so at a satellite outlet and not near Boston...please anyone in the western suburbs of Boston,check to see if there's hash where you are at 860,870,880,900,910 or 920. Second question: considering that you have two stations transmitting on the same fequency, with about the same power output, if one is running IBOC and the other isn't (and WLLH/Lawrence is not causing interference with the 1380 and 1420 NH stations I can receive) what would a possible HD AM receiver do if it's getting a station that's both IN IBOC mode and NOT in IBOC mode. If you're mainly picking up WLLH/Lawrence, but SOME energy from WLLH/Lowell, will it take the digital signal from the latter and discard the former? Of course, if they install IBOC in Lawrence, then all of the above is irrelevant...it may be irrelevant anyway; what's the audience for network sports talk in Lawrence or Lowell anyway? -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Jan 8 16:24:45 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 16:24:45 -0500 Subject: WLLH-AM Lowell Transmitter On-Air (With IBOC?) References: <20070108191333.F0FAA1F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <002f01c7336b$70723a80$19eefea9@satpro4600> It's possible that WAMG's complex five-tower array, diplexed at night with 1060 and not broadbanded at either frequency, makes IBOC infeasible on the 890 signal. WHYN in Springfiled was deemed inapproptiate for IBOC, in part because of the narrow bandwidth of its electrically short towers. Seattle's 950, which is diplexed with 820 and not far away on Vashon Island from 570, 710, 1000, and the 1090/770 diplex, was deemed unsuited because all of the filtering to suppress intermodulation with the nearby signals was already too complex. (With the exception of 570, all of the Seattle stations mentioned run 50 kW-D and four of them also run 50 kW at night.) It would not surprise me to learn that New York's 1010 and 1050, Phildelphia's 1060, and South Jersey's 1040 will never run IBOC. Every AM must be evaluated separately. Also, are you sure that the hash you heard was, indeed, IBOC? You mentioned hash from 1350 to 1430. That frequency range is not symmetrical about 1400. IBOC hash is supposed to be symmetrical about the carrier frequency. If it is not, the system works poorly or not at all. -- Dan Strassberg dan.strassberg@att.net Fax: 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: WLLH-AM Lowell Transmitter On-Air (With IBOC?) > Just to acquaint BRIGgers in other pahts of New England: > WLLH-AM 1400 is licensed to Lowell, MA, and if you went by the > fcc.gov's website, you'd never know there's a 70-year-old > experimental authorization for a synchronous operation in Lawrence. > As Mark Watson has pointed out, one of the transmitters (lately > Lowell) can go off-the-air and the other covers the area at least > during the day. Well, a couple of weeks ago, the Lowell transmitter > powered down making the "experimental" antenna the WLLH tower of record. > My travels took me to Lowell today, and just for fun, I went over to the > transmitter site, and lo and behold, WLLH Lowell was on-the-air... > not only that, but there was significan hash from 1350 to 1430 (so > you had WLLH hash fighting it out with WXKS hash). It's possible > that the engineers had taken WLLH/Lowell off-the-air to install the IBOC > system, which raises deux questions (a little French lingo): if this > hash is due to HD AM radio facilities being installed, have they yet > done so at the mother ship, WAMG-AM 890 COL Dedham? If not, why > would they do so at a satellite outlet and not near Boston...please > anyone in the western suburbs of Boston,check to see if there's hash > where you are at 860,870,880,900,910 or 920. Second question: considering > that you have two stations transmitting on the same fequency, with about > the same power output, if one is running IBOC and the other isn't > (and WLLH/Lawrence is not causing interference with the 1380 and 1420 NH > stations I can receive) what would a possible HD AM receiver do if it's getting > a station that's both IN IBOC mode and NOT in IBOC mode. If you're > mainly picking up WLLH/Lawrence, but SOME energy from WLLH/Lowell, > will it take the digital signal from the latter and discard the former? > Of course, if they install IBOC in Lawrence, then all of the above is > irrelevant...it may be irrelevant anyway; what's the audience for network > sports talk in Lawrence or Lowell anyway? > > -- > Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks > Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. > http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0 e3c8c61e > > From lglavin@mail.com Tue Jan 9 13:19:42 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 13:19:42 -0500 Subject: WLLH-AM Lowell Transmitter On-Air (With IBOC?) Message-ID: <20070109181952.F3E5D1F50B1@ws1-2.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dan Strassberg" >To: "Laurence Glavin" , boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >Subject: Re: WLLH-AM Lowell Transmitter On-Air (With IBOC?) >Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 16:24:45 -0500 > Also, are you sure that the hash you heard was, indeed, IBOC? >You mentioned hash from 1350 to 1430. That frequency range is not >symmetrical about 1400. IBOC hash is supposed to be symmetrical about the >carrier frequency. If it is not, the system works poorly or not at all. No I'm not sure, which is why I put a question mark at the end of the title. Remember, I went directly to the tower on the Lowell/Lawrence Blvd near the UMass Lowell campus and did my testing with my car radio and headset radio. So the "assymetrical" finding was the result of being so close to the tower...WNNW-AM 800's hash can be heard of WJIB and WEEI as I drive by the tower on route 93. In the latter case, the tower is VISIBLE but with WLLH/Lowell, I was just YARDS away. -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From markwa1ion@aol.com Wed Jan 10 15:54:57 2007 From: markwa1ion@aol.com (markwa1ion@aol.com) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:54:57 -0500 Subject: CBA-1070 Moncton, NB going off Message-ID: <8C90310B8725BA3-680-79C2@mblk-d45.sysops.aol.com> Below includes comments that I made on another list, but possibly of interest here: << 4. The CBC confirmed that it would ensure that the area currently covered by CBA would be served by the proposed new transmitter, or by one of its existing FM transmitters that currently serve the Moncton area, namely CBAA-FM Newcastle and CBAE-FM Campbellton, New Brunswick. >> Hmmm, (tongue firmly in cheek) does that mean they've somehow got an FM rig that will hit me here in metro-Boston with the same beautiful S9+50 signal that CBA-1070 cranks in here on any non-auroral night ? I do enjoy CBC programming, especially when they're spotlighting Canadian music showing Celtic, British-folk, or indigenous-peoples influences. CBA was a regular button when I used to do a lot of long night drives to and from Cape Cod. If the FM doesn't make the 300-mile trip (and I seriously doubt that it will), that means the CBC Newfies (540, 600, 640, 990) are my last hope. None of these is quite as strong or interference-free as good ol' CBA though. Bummer. Oh yeah, someone will say "listen on the Internet". A few of you may have WiFi or cellular hookups that would allow you to do this in rush-hour traffic, but I'm not there yet. Maybe I have to get XM or Sirius. And so one more free entertainment option is removed from the listening public. Like all those oldies and big-band stations that converted to extreme political talk and foreign languages. Someone please set the wayback machine to about '67. Boy do I sound like a total geezer! Mark Connelly, WA1ION - Billerica, MA === FM from Nova Scotia or NB...maybe a few times a year (with a signal that's listen-able). I've had some killer signals the past couple of years at my QTH in Hingham MA. But I'm going to miss it for the same reasons as you Mark. I too can listen on the internet or on Sirius ( but the Sirius CBC programming lineup is not the same as CBA's and is all at different times as compared to CBA). I'll miss listening to "Northern Lights" on the Tivoli as I drift off to sleep. Another Old Geezer (is 51 old?) Keith McGinnis Hingham MA === FM skip reception has always been a dodgy thing, especially when in vehicular motion at typical highway speed. I should be happy that a huge "pesty" signal is being removed from 1070, making the channel more DX-able. But I do care about programming content and entertainment too: there's a whole lot less of that on AM every day. I will miss CBA. I also miss CHTN-720 and CHNS-960 with the Canadian Content oldies by Gordon Lightfoot, Joni Mitchell, etc. as well as the Celtic-influenced style of country that had sometimes been featured on CFCY-630, CHSJ-700, and CKBW-1000. None of the replacement FM's puts one iota of signal into this area. The AM's used to be blasters. 700 was huge at mid-day (!) anywhere near the MA coast. Oh well, at this point CD's are becoming the main in-car entertainment for me other than WBZ news. With music radio becoming less relevant and listener choices so fragmented, I already miss the SHARED aspect of chatting up "what I heard today on the radio" with family, friends, co-workers, etc. No one talks about favorite DJ's anymore. In an earlier age Boston had household names like Maxanne Sartori, Charles Laquidara, John H. Garabedian, Arnie Ginsberg, Dick Summer, and so on. Each had a unique style and many playlist surprises. People would talk about the DJ's and the tunes in school, on job sites, and at yard parties. I don't see anything all that inspiring about talkshow hosts especially since David Brudnoy (of WBZ) "checked out" a couple of years back. Savage, Limbaugh ... BORING! And all the tunes are satellite fed with "zip" personality and minimal localization. Anything that came out pre-1964 (or is it pre-1974 now?) seems to be relegated to the dumper anyway. With 1070, from a purely DX standpoint, Spain and other TA's on 1071 will get substantially easier here since CBA was right on the same bearing as European DX. It trashed 1071 mercilessly most of the time. The CBA departure won't make as much difference on the 1070 Latinos since aurora typically takes down CBA (as well as weaker co-channel CHOK) to leave stuff like Venezuela's often-dominant "Mundial Zulia", the Colombians, Cubans, etc. more or less in the clear. Maybe Argentina (that I used to hear in West Yarmouth once in a while) will have a better chance. I guess French Guiana, another occasional '80s-era 1070 catch from the Cape, is gone however. Is 51 old ? When I was 17, anybody over 40 was "wicked old" (as would often be heard in conversations at the pizza shop across from Arlington High School). Now that 51 is 6 years in the rearview mirror for me, it's borderline kid-like. Just "geezing along" and trying to find something half decent to justify turning on my AM radios. Mark Connelly, WA1ION - Billerica, MA ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. From kc1ih@mac.com Wed Jan 10 16:53:28 2007 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:53:28 -0500 Subject: CBA-1070 Moncton, NB going off In-Reply-To: <8C90310B8725BA3-680-79C2@mblk-d45.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C90310B8725BA3-680-79C2@mblk-d45.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <200701102153.l0ALrVSW013541@mac.com> At 03:54 PM 1/10/2007, markwa1ion@aol.com wrote: >Oh yeah, someone will say "listen on the Internet". A few of you may >have WiFi or cellular hookups that would allow you to do this in >rush-hour traffic, but I'm not there yet. Maybe I have to get XM or Sirius. If you want to listen to CBC programming, you definitely want Sirius. There is no CBC programming on XM. Sirius 137 is mostly news and talk programming, some of it rebroadcast at east and west coast times. For instance, The 2 hr block of World at Six and As it Happens on weekdays is 5-7 PM and then repeated 9-11 PM, Eastern time. There's not much music on the channel, and it is broadcast with a bandwidth suitable more for talk than for music. The channel carries only national programs, nothing regional. CBC Radio 3 is also on Sirius, but Radio 2 is not. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From raccoonradio@mail.com Wed Jan 10 19:36:56 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:36:56 -0500 Subject: Herald, Ch. 25 report WRKO Finneran deal Message-ID: <20070111003657.A823F102A8@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> Boston Herald and Ch. 25 are both reporting that WRKO and Tom Finneran have indeed struck a deal. It would be for the "high profile" morning slot, and he may start within the next month. The Herald is saying an announcement is expected at 11 am tomorrow. Reaction at the WRKO messageboard is quite negative. http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=176383 I still wonder if Entercom might put all their sports on 680 and move the political talk to 850. -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From me@billoneill.us Wed Jan 10 22:31:15 2007 From: me@billoneill.us (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:31:15 -0500 Subject: Herald, Ch. 25 report WRKO Finneran deal In-Reply-To: <20070111003657.A823F102A8@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070111003657.A823F102A8@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <45A5AF83.6070205@billoneill.us> Bob Nelson wrote: > Boston Herald and Ch. 25 are both reporting that WRKO and Tom Finneran have indeed struck a deal. > It would be for the "high profile" morning slot, and he may start within the next month. Hey now, talk about a voice for radio. Oh my. So, is Boston still in the Top Ten? [cough] Bill O'Neill From m1bz@hotmail.com Wed Jan 10 22:43:54 2007 From: m1bz@hotmail.com (Michael E) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:43:54 -0500 Subject: Herald, Ch. 25 report WRKO Finneran deal In-Reply-To: <45A5AF83.6070205@billoneill.us> Message-ID: RKO is throwing you-know-what against the wall to see what sticks. >From: "Bill O'Neill" >To: Bob Nelson >CC: BostonRadio Mailing List > >Subject: Re: Herald, Ch. 25 report WRKO Finneran deal >Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:31:15 -0500 > >Bob Nelson wrote: >>Boston Herald and Ch. 25 are both reporting that WRKO and Tom Finneran >>have indeed struck a deal. >>It would be for the "high profile" morning slot, and he may start within >>the next month. > >Hey now, talk about a voice for radio. Oh my. So, is Boston still in the >Top Ten? [cough] > >Bill O'Neill _________________________________________________________________ Communicate instantly! Use your Hotmail address to sign into Windows Live Messenger now. http://get.live.com/messenger/overview From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Thu Jan 11 06:08:00 2007 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (chuckigo@maine.rr.com) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 06:08:00 -0500 Subject: Herald, Ch. 25 report WRKO Finneran deal In-Reply-To: <45A5AF83.6070205@billoneill.us> References: <20070111003657.A823F102A8@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> <45A5AF83.6070205@billoneill.us> Message-ID: Bill O inquired... > > Hey now, talk about a voice for radio. Oh my. So, is Boston > still in > the Top Ten? [cough] > no, thankfully boston is now #11 or something, so it must be okay to put never-before-in-the-biz folks on in morning drive, giving so much hope to the future broadcasters who are maybe voice-tracking an overnight shift somewhere in a small new england town with dreams of landing a big gig someday. From Kaimbridge@gmail.com Thu Jan 11 10:29:52 2007 From: Kaimbridge@gmail.com (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:29:52 +0000 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: CBA-1070 Moncton, NB going off Message-ID: <45A657F0.1090100@Gmail.com> Mark Connelly, WA1ION, wrote, > With 1070, from a purely DX standpoint, Spain and other > TA's on 1071 will get substantially easier here since CBA > was right on the same bearing as European DX. Even better, on an "ionospherically rich" night, maybe there will be a chance for us East Coasters to nab LA's KNX? ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wikipedia?Contributor Home Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaimbridge ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Jan 11 10:47:24 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 10:47:24 -0500 Subject: Herald, Ch. 25 report WRKO Finneran deal Message-ID: <20070111154729.9AB5710398@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> Chuck wrote: >>no, thankfully boston is now #11 or something, so it must be okay to put never-before-in-the-biz folks on in morning drive, giving so much hope to the future broadcasters who are maybe voice-tracking an overnight shift somewhere in a small new england town with dreams of landing a big gig someday. I remember when Peter Blute was given a tryout in Howie's slot. He sounded a little rough, but later when he was doing the morning show (paired with Moes, and later Ozone, then Scotto) he sounded a little better. Maybe having someone else to banter with-- which is apparently what WRKO is doing--will help. One caller this morning to Feinburg's show said they heard Finneran do a show (think he did a fill on WRKO, or maybe WBZ) and "there were a lot of pauses". Which is where the co-host comes in, to help fill those in... A small sample of Feinburg's show today had callers who mostly said they wouldn't be tuning in to the new show. One caller said they'd give him a listen, "but if he's not good, I'm turning it off". A prominent black activist, Sadiki Kambon, called in to say that maybe WRKO would be putting Whitey Bulger on air should he come out of hiding, and that Jerry Williams was turning over in his grave. Another caller said she was a conservative who enjoyed shows like Feinburg, but she didn't like Celtics or Red Sox, and was disappointed to hear Mariellen Burns in on a Saturday instead of Todd. And some listeners felt there was a double standard: John Depetro (whose name was bleeped out) was fired for saying a couple controversial things but wasn't given a second chance, while Finneran has been convicted of perjury and is being given one. (Well, at least it can be said that Finneran's transgression was something he did OUTSIDE of WRKO's employ...) -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Jan 11 10:51:54 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 10:51:54 -0500 Subject: Herald, Ch. 25 report WRKO Finneran deal Message-ID: <20070111155156.DC86110335@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> >>Hey now, talk about a voice for radio. Oh my. So, is Boston still in the Top Ten? [cough] Well, a national talk radio network (that is no longer heard in Boston, hint) did hire a certain "molasses-dripped voice" belonging to a Saturday Night Live writer and performer, to be on air in places like NY and LA... -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From wollman@csail.mit.edu Thu Jan 11 10:52:27 2007 From: wollman@csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 10:52:27 -0500 Subject: Herald, Ch. 25 report WRKO Finneran deal In-Reply-To: References: <20070111003657.A823F102A8@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> <45A5AF83.6070205@billoneill.us> Message-ID: <17830.23867.477442.896196@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> < no, thankfully boston is now #11 or something, so it must be okay to > put never-before-in-the-biz folks on in morning drive, Finneran has done fill-in for Sullivan on WBZ. I never listen beyond the opening monologue, and I don't usually give fill-ins even that long, so I can't say whether he was any good. -GAWollman From raccoonradio@mail.com Thu Jan 11 11:31:56 2007 From: raccoonradio@mail.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:31:56 -0500 Subject: Herald, Ch. 25 report WRKO Finneran deal Message-ID: <20070111163157.9517110353@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" >>Finneran has done fill-in for Sullivan on WBZ. I never listen beyond the opening monologue, and I don't usually give fill-ins even that long, so I can't say whether he was any good. A press conference was just aired on WRKO. Finneran's start date will be Feb 12. Scott Allen Miller will continue in his current slot until then and he may wind up elsewhere at Entercom after his show ends. Finneran says the show will feature everything from politics to sports (oh, the press conference just ended and the first caller said it was a sad day for the station, and the caller said Finneran was an "arrogant, condescending, liar"). I think it was said Finneran might appear on Howie's show later today but I could be wrong. When asked about Howie, Finneran said "at one time, Howie thought I was a rising star. Now he thinks I'm a fraud". Wolfe and Kahn said they knew WRKO had to have local content, not something piped in from LA or NY. -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Jan 13 07:41:25 2007 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 07:41:25 -0500 Subject: Two Dave MacNeils? Message-ID: <001b01c73710$3c511660$19eefea9@satpro4600> Is it that I haven't been listening attentively enough to WCRB or are there really TWO Dave MacNeils who announce there? If so, I imagine that they are father and son. The elder gentleman does overnights a few nights a week (Friday, Saturday, and Sunday?). His name is definitely Dave MacNeil. The younger gentleman, whose name I THINK is also Dave MacNeil (but I could be wrong) does the news on Laura Carlo's AM drive segment Monday thru Friday (except when one of many fill-in voices from Metro Networks does it). The younger fellow may also host some music on weekends. I have not been able to distinguish when, if ever, WCRB's music intros are not voicetracked, but I suspect that, at a minimum, Carlo's shift is not fully voicetracked on weekdays (At least, I think she is live for part (maybe all) of her weekday shift; she makes too many mentions of the current weather.) However, it would take only one part-timer to voicetrack an entire week. Can't take more than five or six minutes to voicetrack a full hour of classical--unless some commercials are read, umm, live (meaning voicetracked specifically for a particular shift--as opposed to being pre-recorded for use at any time). -- Dan Strassberg dan.strassberg@att.net Fax: 1-707-215-6367 From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Jan 13 20:47:54 2007 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 20:47:54 -0500 Subject: Herald, Ch. 25 report WRKO Finneran deal In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000401c7377e$05585330$e7c105cf@yourm3vezyx8af> WRKO is just falling the lead of WGAN in that regard. ;-) > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf > Of chuckigo@maine.rr.com > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 6:08 AM > To: Bill O'Neill > Cc: BostonRadio Mailing List > Subject: Re: Herald, Ch. 25 report WRKO Finneran deal > > no, thankfully boston is now #11 or something, so it must be okay to > put never-before-in-the-biz folks on in morning drive, giving so much > hope to the future broadcasters who are maybe voice-tracking an > overnight shift somewhere in a small new england town with dreams of > landing a big gig someday. From PaulBCurrier@comcast.net Sat Jan 13 08:00:34 2007 From: PaulBCurrier@comcast.net (Paul B Currier) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 08:00:34 -0500 Subject: WFCC & WKPE finally being sold References: <20070111003657.A823F102A8@ws1-3.us4.outblaze.com><45A5AF83.6070205@billoneill.us> <17830.23867.477442.896196@khavrinen.csail.mit.edu> Message-ID: <001001c73712$d06caab0$123f434b@DG07P241> Cape radio Two Cape radio stations sold More than a year after the radio stations first went on the market, Cape Cod's WFCC-FM and WKPE-FM are finally being sold. Info on www.capecodonline.com business section. Paul Cape Cod From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Sat Jan 13 23:17:33 2007 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 23:17:33 -0500 Subject: Herald, Ch. 25 report WRKO Finneran deal References: <000401c7377e$05585330$e7c105cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <002901c73792$eb3d8960$0301a8c0@Family> in regards to my thoughts on putting non-radio professionals in key on-air shifts, such as morning drive, Dan B offered: >>WRKO is just falling the lead of WGAN in that regard. ;-) << so Mike Violette's 25+ years of broadcast experience don't meet that criteria? i'll remind him of your views on this next time you and/or your organization(s) have an agenda you wish to expound upon by way of the WGAN morning show. WGAN has managed to at least incorporate one broadcast pro with a non-traditional co-host in the mornings. the exception being when Ken was brought on to co-host with Mike McArdle - between them they had about 2 years experience. however - Mike McArdle, extended an invitation to audition for co-host due to his very eloquent positions put forth as a regular caller, was an absolute exception in that he caught on to broadcast thinking very quickly and was more than qualified to lead the very green Ken through the steps. my only regret at this point in my career is that i have not been convicted of a felony, and am more than likely now disqualified from future major market gigs. - -Chuck Igo From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Jan 14 01:33:53 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 01:33:53 -0500 Subject: WFCC & WKPE finally being sold In-Reply-To: <001001c73712$d06caab0$123f434b@DG07P241> Message-ID: <45A98881.29005.663FFF@localhost> On 13 Jan 2007 at 8:00, Paul B Currier wrote: > Cape radio > Two Cape radio stations sold > More than a year after the radio stations first went on the market, > Cape Cod's WFCC-FM and WKPE-FM are finally being sold. I wonder whether this means the end of classical music on WFCC. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joe@attorneyross.com Sun Jan 14 01:33:53 2007 From: joe@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 01:33:53 -0500 Subject: Two Dave MacNeils? In-Reply-To: <001b01c73710$3c511660$19eefea9@satpro4600> Message-ID: <45A98881.14538.6641CB@localhost> On 13 Jan 2007 at 7:41, Dan Strassberg wrote: > I have not been able to distinguish when, if ever, WCRB's music intros > are not voicetracked, but I suspect that, at a minimum, Carlo's shift > is not fully voicetracked on weekdays (At least, I think she is live > for part (maybe all) of her weekday shift; she makes too many mentions > of the current weather.) However, it would take only one part-timer to > voicetrack an entire week. Can't take more than five or six minutes to > voicetrack a full hour of classical--unless some commercials are read, > umm, live (meaning voicetracked specifically for a particular > shift--as opposed to being pre-recorded for use at any time). I don't know, but I've noticed that since the switch, WCRB has seemed to think they're competing with Bob Bittner's WJIB. They use liners like "where Boston comes to relax" and note that they always tell the names of the music they play. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 Fax 617.742.7581 Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From nostaticatall@charter.net Sun Jan 14 02:51:53 2007 From: nostaticatall@charter.net (David Tomm) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 02:51:53 -0500 Subject: WFCC & WKPE finally being sold In-Reply-To: <45A98881.29005.663FFF@localhost> References: <45A98881.29005.663FFF@localhost> Message-ID: <726811bc248481d2c36c4e00212460d9@charter.net> Sandab, the owners of WQRC and WOCN are purchasing WFCC and WKPE-FM. All Access had a quick note on it and according to them, WFCC will retain their classical format once the sale closes. I'm actually surprised that Nassau didn't wind up with these stations, since they just bought the two Frank-FM's on the Cape not that long ago. WFCC would have been a natural fit with the new classical network they're setting up at WCRB. --Dave Tomm "Mike Thomas" On Jan 14, 2007, at 1:33 AM, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > On 13 Jan 2007 at 8:00, Paul B Currier wrote: > >> Cape radio >> Two Cape radio stations sold >> More than a year after the radio stations first went on the market, >> Cape Cod's WFCC-FM and WKPE-FM are finally being sold. > > I wonder whether this means the end of classical music on WFCC. > From revdoug1@verizon.net Sun Jan 14 08:13:36 2007 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 08:13:36 -0500 Subject: WFCC & WKPE finally being sold References: <45A98881.29005.663FFF@localhost> <726811bc248481d2c36c4e00212460d9@charter.net> Message-ID: <016701c737dd$cdb79890$6501a8c0@pastor2> While we're on the subject of Nassau's new classical network: It'll be interesting to hear what they come up with. I was in Mass. for several days last week and listened to WCRB during most of my driving time there. The format is decidedly "classical lite," as some on the Board have indicated --- quite different from the WCRB I knew years ago. That's not the case with Nassau's Maine Classical Network. It isn't that one hears, for example, modern atonal music very often, but the stations do play a large amount of comparatively little-known selections. I wonder to what extent that may change. -Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Tomm" To: "A. Joseph Ross" Cc: ; "Paul B Currier" Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 2:51 AM Subject: Re: WFCC & WKPE finally being sold > Sandab, the owners of WQRC and WOCN are purchasing WFCC and WKPE-FM. > All Access had a quick note on it and according to them, WFCC will > retain their classical format once the sale closes. I'm actually > surprised that Nassau didn't wind up with these stations, since they > just bought the two Frank-FM's on the Cape not that long ago. WFCC > would have been a natural fit with the new classical network they're > setting up at WCRB. > > --Dave Tomm > "Mike Thomas" > > > On Jan 14, 2007, at 1:33 AM, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > > > On 13 Jan 2007 at 8:00, Paul B Currier wrote: > > > >> Cape radio > >> Two Cape radio stations sold > >> More than a year after the radio stations first went on the market, > >> Cape Cod's WFCC-FM and WKPE-FM are finally being sold. > > > > I wonder whether this means the end of classical music on WFCC. > > > From ewerme@comcast.net Sun Jan 14 14:23:10 2007 From: ewerme@comcast.net (Ric Werme) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 14:23:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: Two Dave MacNeils? Message-ID: <20070114192310.9B7ABF914@c-24-128-108-153.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> Joe Ross wrote: >On 13 Jan 2007 at 7:41, Dan Strassberg wrote: >> I have not been able to distinguish when, if ever, WCRB's music intros >> are not voicetracked, but I suspect that, at a minimum, Carlo's shift >> is not fully voicetracked on weekdays (At least, I think she is live >> for part (maybe all) of her weekday shift; she makes too many mentions >> of the current weather.) It was ages ago (decades!) so this isn't relevant, just a good anecdote, and long enough ago I'm not confident all the details are right. Laura Carlo and Mary Ann Nichols were the WCRB "Morning Team" and one morning Nichols played what she thought was a PSA from the Council on Aging. Instead, it was an announcement by someone (very possibly Dave MacNeil) reporting that both women shared a birthday and that today was their birthday. To their credit, they let it play to the final "Surprise!" and after a commercial explained how they'd been hacked and had no suspicion of the trick. >I don't know, but I've noticed that since the switch, WCRB has seemed >to think they're competing with Bob Bittner's WJIB. They use liners >like "where Boston comes to relax" and note that they always tell the >names of the music they play. I don't know what WJIB says, but WCRB says something like "where we always name the music after each long set." Where "long set" apparently often is a single work (or fragment). I get the feeling there's a pop music director who's been assigned to WCRB to make it more current (well, the styles, not the music!) and thinks that any stretch of music greater than 5 minutes is long. -Ric Werme From lglavin@mail.com Sun Jan 14 13:29:30 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 13:29:30 -0500 Subject: WFCC & WKPE finally being sold Message-ID: <20070114182931.1B1DB1BF287@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Doug Drown" >To: "David Tomm" , "A. Joseph Ross" >Subject: Re: WFCC & WKPE finally being sold >Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 08:13:36 -0500 >While we're on the subject of Nassau's new classical network: It'll be >interesting to hear what they come up with. I was in Mass. for several days >last week and listened to WCRB during most of my driving time there. The >format is decidedly "classical lite," as some on the Board have >indicated --- quite different from the WCRB I knew years ago. That's not >the case with Nassau's Maine Classical Network. It isn't that one hears, >for example, modern atonal music very often, but the stations do play a >large amount of comparatively little-known selections. I wonder to what >extent that may change. By "comparatively little-known compositions", you may be referring to obscure-and-forgotten pieces by deservedly obscure-and-forgotten composers who toiled in the 18th- and early 19th-centuries. When WCRB had a functioning website (which, a month-and-a-half after the switch, it still doesn't although promising to have one SOON) one could peruse the playlist and see the output of such immortals as Pla, Rathgeber, Zachow, Wagenseil and Herschel (actually most remembered for his work in astronomy). This dreck was interspersed with the "classical top-40" as filler, such as in cat food. It served to dilute the monotony ever so slightly and to give the "impression" one is hearing classical music (although very few impressionistsic pieces ever made the playlist.) -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From lglavin@mail.com Sun Jan 14 15:10:19 2007 From: lglavin@mail.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 15:10:19 -0500 Subject: Sacre Bleu! Pas de Radioffusion En Francais Sur WJIB Message-ID: <20070114201019.BB9C81CE303@ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com> According to another website, the Franch language radio newscast that has aired weekdays on WJIB-AM for quite a while is now defunct. Although WJIB owner Bob Bittner is not happy about this development, it adds a couple of hours a day in which he can retain the audience that is attracted to the station in the first place! 'JAMN...watch out. -- Low Prices, Wide Selection of Gas Masks Everyday low price guarantee. We offer special police discounts and an extremely wide selection of gas masks, filters and huge selection of preparedness gear. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=24e08df2353d2e6cb9bae3a0e3c8c61e From gary@garysicecream.com Sun Jan 14 20:44:45 2007 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:44:45 -0500 Subject: Problems since the Ch 56 takeover Message-ID: <012d01c73846$bc48c3e0$6500a8c0@Office> Just got off the phone with WHDH Master Control.....I was asking why they were transmitting CW Network programming in regular mode instead of hi-def........i checked with friends in Conn and NY first to make sure that they were seeing it in hi-def and they were......since the Ch 56 switching was transferred to Bullfinch Place this has become a common occurance. I didn't spend thousands of dollars for a high def TV and a higher monthly charge for a hi-def cable box to have the local affiliate not bother to pass it through the way the network sends it. According to the Master Control operator lady I spoke to - she was going by the log - it said upconverted , not hi-def,so that is how they are passing it. Thanks for nothing! G -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/625 - Release Date: 1/13/2007 From jjlehmann@comcast.net Sun Jan 14 20:53:43 2007 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 20:53:43 -0500 Subject: Problems since the Ch 56 takeover In-Reply-To: <012d01c73846$bc48c3e0$6500a8c0@Office> Message-ID: <01dc01c73847$fd09cd60$0201a8c0@DHPP0DB1> > Just got off the phone with WHDH Master Control.....I was asking why they > were transmitting CW Network programming in regular mode instead of > hi-def........i checked with friends in Conn and NY first to make sure > that > they were seeing it in hi-def and they were......since the Ch 56 switching > was transferred to Bullfinch Place this has become a common occurance. I > didn't spend thousands of dollars for a high def TV and a higher monthly > charge for a hi-def cable box to have the local affiliate not bother to > pass > it through the way the network sends it. According to the Master Control > operator lady I spoke to - she was going by the log - it said upconverted > , > not hi-def,so that is how they are passing it. Thanks for nothing! I haven't checked lately, but for the first couple days after the change, WLVI's ID shown on the bottom of the screen at the top of the hour was saying "WLVI-TV/WLVI-DT 56 BOSTON." Someone over there didn't (or doesn't) realize that 56's COL is Cambridge, not Boston. Just a little nitpick, but its something I noticed... Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sun Jan 14