From revdoug1@verizon.net Tue Mar 1 08:16:06 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Tue Mar 1 08:13:30 2005 Subject: Vinikoor weighs COL move for NH station References: <20050228023233.CCC6D3A0A@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <001c01c51e60$d4177d10$6401a8c0@pastor2> Just wondering --- why the change? Lebanon and North Charlestown are only about 30 miles apart. Better transmitter site, maybe? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:32 PM Subject: Vinikoor weighs COL move for NH station > > Bob Vinikoor is thinking of moving the COL for his unbuilt AM station in Lebanon, NH to N. Charlestown, NH. It would have a signal that would reach from "Burlington to Manchester" and he could change his FM 99.7 signal to classical (??) The AM station (720, right?) would have talk and sports. > > http://www.vnews.com/02242005/2272237.htm > > _______________________________________________ > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com > From raccoonradio@myway.com Tue Mar 1 11:24:07 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue Mar 1 11:24:32 2005 Subject: Vinikoor weighs COL move for NH station Message-ID: <20050301162407.047EF3A28@mprdmxin.myway.com> From: Doug Drown [mailto: revdoug1@verizon.net] >>Just wondering --- why the change? Lebanon and North Charlestown are only about 30 miles apart. Better transmitter site, maybe He's running into opposition from the locals who don't want a tower built. NIMBY (Not In My Back Yard) or, as Bob Bittner has put it, BANANA (Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anything) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From lglavin@lycos.com Wed Mar 2 17:09:25 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Wed Mar 2 17:09:36 2005 Subject: There's No Reason For Anybody To Be Out Of Work Message-ID: <20050302220925.2397CCA077@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> It's my practice in the morning to pass over the Globe's sports section to a fellow worker who pays me back with a whole Boston Herald. Today (03/02), the associate also checked the classifieds which were folded with the sports section. Later, he said "Larry, check this out". There was an "employment opportunity" on page D11 that read as follows: RADIO ANNOUNCERS/DJ's No experience required. Do shows PT/FT for our radio stations. Earn up to $200 per show. Phone (617) 520-8010. The '520' exchange in the 617 area code is listed as being in Cambridge. Is anyone familiar with that phone number; no radio station in the Yellow Book is listed as having that number. -- _______________________________________________ Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From fox893@yahoo.com Wed Mar 2 17:31:08 2005 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Wed Mar 2 17:31:21 2005 Subject: There's No Reason For Anybody To Be Out Of Work In-Reply-To: <20050302220925.2397CCA077@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20050302223108.60885.qmail@web54610.mail.yahoo.com> > The '520' exchange in the 617 area code is listed as > being in > Cambridge. Is anyone familiar with that phone > number; no > radio station in the Yellow Book is listed as having > that > number. > > According to the message on the number they are Cameo Entertainment at 1431 hancock st in Quincey. And they are holding "auditions" for radio work. Anyone know anything else? __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Wed Mar 2 17:39:34 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Wed Mar 2 17:40:53 2005 Subject: There's No Reason For Anybody To Be Out Of Work References: <20050302223108.60885.qmail@web54610.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <016201c51f78$cd3d2440$1404fea9@xyz> Take a look: http://cyberstationusa.com/broad.shtml ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cooper Fox" To: "Laurence Glavin" ; Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:31 PM Subject: Re: There's No Reason For Anybody To Be Out Of Work > > > The '520' exchange in the 617 area code is listed as > > being in > > Cambridge. Is anyone familiar with that phone > > number; no > > radio station in the Yellow Book is listed as having > > that > > number. > > > > > > According to the message on the number they are Cameo > Entertainment at 1431 hancock st in Quincey. And they > are holding "auditions" for radio work. Anyone know > anything else? > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! > Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web > http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ From mlaurence@mindspring.com Wed Mar 2 18:03:56 2005 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Wed Mar 2 18:04:05 2005 Subject: There's No Reason For Anybody To Be Out Of Work Message-ID: <4321822.1109804636961.JavaMail.root@wamui10.slb.atl.earthlink.net> There's not much of a hint there about how you're going to collect $200 per airshift. What a shock. :) Mark -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Pappalardo Take a look: http://cyberstationusa.com/broad.shtml From radiotony@comcast.net Wed Mar 2 18:10:54 2005 From: radiotony@comcast.net (tony schinella) Date: Wed Mar 2 18:11:08 2005 Subject: There's No Reason For Anybody To Be Out Of Work References: <4321822.1109804636961.JavaMail.root@wamui10.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <001601c51f7d$15f8b100$6400a8c0@tony> While I wouldn't call this a "scam" or "bait and switch," I recall a similar company in Quincy trying something in the mid-1990s. Essentially, they ask you to go out and sell ads and then promise to buy you an hour worth of satellite time. They were advertising in the classified and later, I saw another ad from someone warning folks not to bother because it wasn't legit. I don't know if these folks are the same company but it sounds similar. Best, Tony Schinella radiotony@comcast.net WKXL 1450 Concord, NH News Director/A&E http://politizine.blogspot.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Laurence" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 6:03 PM Subject: Re: There's No Reason For Anybody To Be Out Of Work > There's not much of a hint there about how > you're going to collect $200 per airshift. What > a shock. :) > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joseph Pappalardo > > > Take a look: > > http://cyberstationusa.com/broad.shtml > > > > From rogerkola@aol.com Wed Mar 2 21:21:07 2005 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Wed Mar 2 21:21:15 2005 Subject: There's No Reason For Anybody To Be Out Of Work References: <20050302223108.60885.qmail@web54610.mail.yahoo.com> <016201c51f78$cd3d2440$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <000e01c51f97$a9155f00$0200a8c0@teal> A pretty interesting concept for populating an internet streaming broadcast and giving the "DJs" an opportunity to present a "live" tape audition to potential employers. As for ASCAP royalties and earning $200 per broadcast, one would think it might be the typical "1099" situation where the "DJ" "rents" the time as the "artist" and is responsible for the content and therefore the fees... Roger WESX 1230 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Pappalardo" To: "Cooper Fox" ; "Laurence Glavin" ; Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:39 PM Subject: Re: There's No Reason For Anybody To Be Out Of Work > Take a look: > > http://cyberstationusa.com/broad.shtml > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cooper Fox" > To: "Laurence Glavin" ; > Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:31 PM > Subject: Re: There's No Reason For Anybody To Be Out Of Work > > > > > > > The '520' exchange in the 617 area code is listed as > > > being in > > > Cambridge. Is anyone familiar with that phone > > > number; no > > > radio station in the Yellow Book is listed as having > > > that > > > number. > > > > > > > > > > According to the message on the number they are Cameo > > Entertainment at 1431 hancock st in Quincey. And they > > are holding "auditions" for radio work. Anyone know > > anything else? From raccoonradio@myway.com Thu Mar 3 03:19:40 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu Mar 3 03:19:49 2005 Subject: Entercom to streamcast again--but not Red Sox? Message-ID: <20050303081940.9D36D3976@mprdmxin.myway.com> Boston Radio Watch reports that within the next couple weeks Boston's Entercom stations will be streaming again (WRKO, WEEI, WAAF, WQSX). But I wonder if the Red Sox games on 'EEI will be streamed...doesn't Major League Baseball control that (and offer it only on their PAY Net-streaming service)? http://www.bostonradiowatch.com Also I understand that on March 14 the Wyoming Blasting and Zoning Company (1030 Westinghouse--er, Infinity Street) will do the same :) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Thu Mar 3 03:29:54 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu Mar 3 03:30:02 2005 Subject: It's a zoo up in Vermont :) Message-ID: <20050303082954.8644E12D03@mprdmxin.myway.com> Welcome to the Vermont Radio Zoo. In this cage is Cat Country (95.1 in Sunderland and 94.5 in Rutland). Over here is Big Froggy 100.9, licensed to Berlin. There's a rockin' Fox at 101.5 in Brandon...and now word has it (from 100kW.com) that WSSH 95.3 White River Jct. will get the calls WXLF and will soon be known as "The Wolf". So I'm guessing the Wolf's name is "Bob", or...it used to be Bob...or... :) And if you like cows there's still WMOO 92.1 up in Derby Center--except for a few days last year when a band called "Phish" rented them for a few days and dubbed them "The Bunny"... :) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From revdoug1@verizon.net Thu Mar 3 07:09:38 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Thu Mar 3 07:07:00 2005 Subject: It's a zoo up in Vermont :) References: <20050303082954.8644E12D03@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <00ac01c51fe9$e008a0b0$6401a8c0@pastor2> Cute. We have "The Wolf," "Cat Country," "Big Froggy," "The Fox." Up here in Maine, it's "The Moose," "The Bear," "The River," and, in Portland, "Frank." Heaven knows what else. Am I the only person who thinks all these catchy attempts at circumventing the use of old-fashioned call letters is just plain silly? I remember back in the '60s when I heard it for the first time --- WMEX began touting itself as "X-15." I thought, "Where did they come up with THAT idea?" Ask the average listener what the actual call letters are of the station he or she is listening to, and see what response you get. Yours truly, "The Curmudgeon" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 3:29 AM Subject: It's a zoo up in Vermont :) > > Welcome to the Vermont Radio Zoo. In this cage is Cat Country (95.1 in Sunderland and 94.5 in Rutland). Over here is Big Froggy 100.9, licensed to Berlin. There's a rockin' Fox at 101.5 in Brandon...and now word has it (from 100kW.com) that WSSH 95.3 White River Jct. will get the calls WXLF and will soon be known as "The Wolf". So I'm guessing the Wolf's name is "Bob", or...it used to be Bob...or... :) > > And if you like cows there's still WMOO 92.1 up in Derby Center--except for a few days last year when a band called "Phish" rented them for a few days and dubbed them "The Bunny"... :) > > > _______________________________________________ > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From billo@shoreham.net Thu Mar 3 07:00:21 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu Mar 3 07:26:14 2005 Subject: It's a zoo up in Vermont :) In-Reply-To: <20050303082954.8644E12D03@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20050303082954.8644E12D03@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <4226FC55.2000404@shoreham.net> Bob Nelson wrote: >Welcome to the Vermont Radio Zoo. In this cage is Cat Country (95.1 in Sunderland and 94.5 in Rutland). Over here is Big Froggy 100.9, licensed to Berlin. There's a rockin' Fox at 101.5 in Brandon...and now word has it (from 100kW.com) that WSSH 95.3 White River Jct. will get the calls WXLF and will soon be known as "The Wolf". So I'm guessing the Wolf's name is "Bob", or...it used to be Bob...or... :) > >And if you like cows there's still WMOO 92.1 up in Derby Center--except for a few days last year when a band called "Phish" rented them for a few days and dubbed them "The Bunny"... :) > > ...what, no Eagle? No Dog? At least there is a Mud. I'd recommend "The Bird...flip us on....We give you the bird every day.... Take off, eh? The Bird...." Is is obvious that I've not had coffee #1 yet? Quack quack (oops, Imus got that first.) Bill O'Neill Shoreham, Vermont -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.5.5 - Release Date: 3/1/2005 From brian_vita@cssinc.com Thu Mar 3 08:32:08 2005 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Thu Mar 3 08:30:52 2005 Subject: It's a zoo up in Vermont :) In-Reply-To: <4226FC55.2000404@shoreham.net> Message-ID: <000401c51ff5$704277e0$660fa8c0@elara> > >Welcome to the Vermont Radio Zoo. In this cage is Cat > Country (95.1 in > >Sunderland and 94.5 in Rutland). Over here is Big Froggy 100.9, > >licensed to Berlin. There's a rockin' Fox at 101.5 in > Brandon...and now > >word has it (from 100kW.com) that WSSH 95.3 White River Jct. > will get > >the calls WXLF and will soon be known as "The Wolf". So I'm guessing > >the Wolf's name is "Bob", or...it used to be Bob...or... :) > Thank God there's no WASS! "Put your ASS on the radio"! (I'm talking about the donkey) Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 +1-978-538-7575 Voice +1-978-538-7550 Fax www.cssinc.com From rjoc@webtv.net Thu Mar 3 09:33:10 2005 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Thu Mar 3 09:33:20 2005 Subject: There's No Reason For Anybody To Be Out Of Work Message-ID: <20050303143311.95BE2D5CE@smtpout-3204.bay.webtv.net> There is a link on the website to apply on-line. Good Luck. Comes back as "no longer available". I smell a scam.. Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine From raccoonradio@myway.com Thu Mar 3 11:36:35 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu Mar 3 11:36:55 2005 Subject: It's a zoo up in Vermont :) Message-ID: <20050303163635.B425C3A03@mprdmxin.myway.com> From: Doug Drown [mailto: revdoug1@verizon.net] >> I remember back in the '60s when I heard it for the first
time --- WMEX began touting itself as "X-15." I remember that too, or was it early 70s? I also remember WVBF being "F-105" for awhile (a common practice among stations: Q-106, etc.) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From aiese@post.harvard.edu Thu Mar 3 13:33:42 2005 From: aiese@post.harvard.edu (Eric Aiese) Date: Thu Mar 3 13:33:50 2005 Subject: There's No Reason For Anybody To Be Out Of Work In-Reply-To: <20050303143311.95BE2D5CE@smtpout-3204.bay.webtv.net> References: <20050303143311.95BE2D5CE@smtpout-3204.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <3055.24.161.22.238.1109874822.squirrel@webmail2.pair.com> I went to an open house for Cameo several years ago, during a break from college. Basically, they lease bulk time from stations and sublet it to individual broadcasters in 15-minute chunks. So on one hand, it's an honest deal - they sell you the studio time and airtime. But their pitch is really fishy. After you buy the time, they explained, you can pick up sponsors, who will gladly pay you cash or in kind for on-air mentions. Want a free vacation? Call Delta! Need a new car? Call GM! Want free lunch? Call the pizza place on your block, and you'll never have to pay for a meal again. Add in cash sponsors, and you could make thousands from every broadcast! At this point, I was curious what kind of stations they were buying, so I asked. He said he couldn't say, because then everyone would bother the stations directly. Fair enough. When someone else asked the same question later in the presentation, the guy snapped, again refusing to say anything, which struck me as sketchy. I found out later that the programs run on a few small AM and cable radio stations out in California. Not very relevant for the Quincy House of Pizza. And painful for the listener, who gets another random program each 15 minutes. After the presentation, they had each of the 30 attendees tape an audition, reading 30 seconds of copy in one of their studios. Sure enough, the next day I got a call that I had passed the audition, and as soon as I brought over a check, I could get started. In retrospect, I guess it could be a good way to learn a little about radio and make a demo tape, while paying less than broadcasting school. But selling this as a money maker is just deceptive. So, who's in? We could discuss Boston radio for the people of Napa Valley... Eric > There is a link on the website to apply on-line. Good Luck. Comes back as > "no longer available". > > I smell a scam.. > > Rod O'Connor > Southwest Harbor, Maine > > > > From hmglaz@webtv.net Thu Mar 3 13:46:25 2005 From: hmglaz@webtv.net (Howard Glazer) Date: Thu Mar 3 13:46:33 2005 Subject: Entercom to streamcast again--but not Red Sox? In-Reply-To: boston-radio-interest-request@rolinin.BostonRadio.org's message of Thu, 3 Mar 2005 12:00:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <29816-42275B81-989@storefull-3135.bay.webtv.net> Why would Entercom get a special dispensation from MLB when Clear Channel (WLW--Reds, KOA--Rockies, etc.) and Infinity/Viacom (WFAN, WCBS, etc.) cannot? MLB will retain Internet streaming rights, as usual. Howard, punching the buttons on his XM remote and listening to the great Harry Kalas (Phillies) and Marty Brenneman (Reds) right now. From n1qgs@yahoo.com Thu Mar 3 17:13:14 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Thu Mar 3 17:13:23 2005 Subject: WMUR Channel 9 news 11PM newscast went BLACK 6 minutes before end of news, mid sentance Message-ID: <20050303221315.26171.qmail@web30710.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I was watching Channel 9 Manchester NH last evening and at about 11:28pm just as they were teasing into a break, the screen went gray, and later black. A partial color bar popped up for a couple of seconds and then disappeared. Night Line came on the air at 11:35pm as usually. Does anybody know what happened? John B Derry From francini@mac.com Fri Mar 4 10:12:28 2005 From: francini@mac.com (John Francini) Date: Fri Mar 4 10:12:34 2005 Subject: Entercom to streamcast again--but not Red Sox? Message-ID: WEEI on-air hosts decided to "out" the news publicly yesterday after BRW's scoop appeared. Dale Arnold mentioned it at around 12:15 or so, saying that he knew about it for a couple of weeks already but was supposed to keep his mouth shut, but now that someone leaked it to BRW, we might as well tell everyone. This was followed by Glenn Ordway announcing it more than a few times on the Big Show, with what sounded like honest surprise from his guest hosts Bill Burtt and Steve Buckley. And Pete Gustin even managed to do a humor bit on it before the day was out: (Listen for the slice at Bob Neumeier at the end...) John From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Fri Mar 4 15:26:48 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Fri Mar 4 15:35:39 2005 Subject: Pirate on 91.3 in Dorchester/Roxbury? Message-ID: <02f001c520f9$a8ca4160$1404fea9@xyz> The other afternoon, I picked up a strong signal on 91.3driving through South Boston...and it sounded like it was Haitian. I heard him saying "Rrrrrocksbree" and "Dorhchesta". Anyone know what this might have been? Pirate? From billo@shoreham.net Fri Mar 4 16:39:39 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Fri Mar 4 16:39:53 2005 Subject: Pirate on 91.3 in Dorchester/Roxbury? In-Reply-To: <02f001c520f9$a8ca4160$1404fea9@xyz> References: <02f001c520f9$a8ca4160$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <4228D59B.9000309@shoreham.net> Joseph Pappalardo wrote: >The other afternoon, I picked up a strong signal on 91.3driving through >South Boston...and it sounded like it was Haitian. > >I heard him saying "Rrrrrocksbree" and "Dorhchesta". > >Anyone know what this might have been? > >Pirate? > > > What, no Savin Hill? Imposters! ... DAW-chesta, WOO-bin, Lole, Tooks-brie, Chemps'-fid, Kong'-kid, Pee'-biddy, Mah'bl-head'', Brik'-ka or bur-ik'-ka, Tings'-bro. Bill O'Neill Shore'-m, Vuh-mont' ...south of Ver-jenz' (Vergennes), Sha-lot' or Shar-lot' (Charlotte), east of Tie (Ticonderoga) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.0 - Release Date: 3/2/2005 From paulranderson@charter.net Sat Mar 5 11:09:05 2005 From: paulranderson@charter.net (Paul Anderson) Date: Sat Mar 5 11:09:20 2005 Subject: WFSB changes their mind Message-ID: WFSB Hartford (channel 3) had made an agreement with the City of Hartford to relocate from their home of many years, Constitution Plaza in downtown Hartford, to a city-owned parcel downtown. They have now changed their minds and will probably relocate to the suburbs after realizing the site would be too small. Paul From rogerkola@aol.com Sat Mar 5 11:36:20 2005 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Sat Mar 5 11:36:03 2005 Subject: WFSB changes their mind References: Message-ID: <004501c521a1$76a36c40$0200a8c0@teal> This is a VERY much negotiated and political topic in that city....anyone who has seen downtown Hartford lately can realize they need all the commercial traffic they can get.... I wouldn't be surprised if the negotiations will continue for even another "in-town" parcel...remember they "WERE" going to fit Gillette Stadium in there... Roger WESX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Anderson" To: "Boston Radio Mailing List" Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 11:09 AM Subject: WFSB changes their mind > WFSB Hartford (channel 3) had made an agreement with the City of > Hartford to relocate from their home of many years, Constitution Plaza > in downtown Hartford, to a city-owned parcel downtown. They have now > changed their minds and will probably relocate to the suburbs after > realizing the site would be too small. > > wfsbleaves0305.artmar05,0,1453497.story?coll=hc-headlines-local> > > Paul > > From revdoug1@verizon.net Sat Mar 5 11:47:43 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Sat Mar 5 11:45:02 2005 Subject: WFSB changes their mind References: Message-ID: <007901c521a3$0dddc230$6401a8c0@pastor2> I remember when WFSB was WTIC-TV and shared the Constitution Plaza digs with the radio stations. Where are they now? I gather they don't share facilities with the newer incarnation of WTIC-TV (Fox), as they're Viacom-owned. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Anderson" To: "Boston Radio Mailing List" Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 11:09 AM Subject: WFSB changes their mind > WFSB Hartford (channel 3) had made an agreement with the City of > Hartford to relocate from their home of many years, Constitution Plaza > in downtown Hartford, to a city-owned parcel downtown. They have now > changed their minds and will probably relocate to the suburbs after > realizing the site would be too small. > > wfsbleaves0305.artmar05,0,1453497.story?coll=hc-headlines-local> > > Paul > > From elipolo@earthlink.net Sat Mar 5 12:45:25 2005 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sat Mar 5 12:44:10 2005 Subject: Pirate on 91.3 in Dorchester/Roxbury? Message-ID: It's an ethnic pirate, I've heard that it's somewhere in Dorchester. It also sometimes simulcasts 91.3 FM on 990 AM. If you heard it, you may have thought it was WALE Greenville, RI which is Spanish, but it's not. WALE is so extremely nulled to the north that it really doesn't come in worth anything in metro Boston. There's only a slight oscillation behind the 990 pirate caused by WALE around Boston. There's more oscillation with the pirate on 990 at night when other farther away stations skip in. Eli Polonsky Joseph Pappalardo wrote: >The other afternoon, I picked up a strong signal on 91.3driving >through South Boston...and it sounded like it was Haitian. > >I heard him saying "Rrrrrocksbree" and "Dorhchesta". > >Anyone know what this might have been? > >Pirate? From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Mar 5 13:19:53 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat Mar 5 13:20:45 2005 Subject: Paul Sullivan Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050305131747.02b7f758@pop.registeredsite.com> There is a very nice and very complimentary article about Paul Sullivan in today's Boston Globe. I don't know if it's on-line yet, but it has a nice retrospective of his career (how he got into radio, etc). He seems to be recovering nicely from his surgery and feels he has turned the corner, health-wise. I certainly hope so! Scott, Garrett and I were among the many who attended the beautiful tribute David Brudnoy last Sunday, and Paul was there too-- he looked and sounded much healthier. From paulranderson@charter.net Sat Mar 5 14:15:27 2005 From: paulranderson@charter.net (Paul Anderson) Date: Sat Mar 5 14:15:42 2005 Subject: WFSB changes their mind In-Reply-To: <007901c521a3$0dddc230$6401a8c0@pastor2> References: <007901c521a3$0dddc230$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: > I remember when WFSB was WTIC-TV and shared the Constitution Plaza > digs with > the radio stations. Where are they now? I gather they don't share > facilities with the newer incarnation of WTIC-TV (Fox), as they're > Viacom-owned. WTIC AM and FM moved to Farmington a few years ago. WTIC-TV (61) is located in downtown Hartford, a few blocks from the Gold Building where WTIC radio used to be. Paul From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Mar 6 00:53:56 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Mar 6 00:54:17 2005 Subject: WFSB changes their mind In-Reply-To: <007901c521a3$0dddc230$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <422A54A4.28488.81AD63@localhost> On 5 Mar 2005 at 11:47, Doug Drown wrote: > I remember when WFSB was WTIC-TV and shared the Constitution Plaza > digs with the radio stations. Where are they now? I gather they > don't share facilities with the newer incarnation of WTIC-TV (Fox), as > they're Viacom-owned. WTIC-TV and WTIC radio are separately owned? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From revdoug1@verizon.net Sun Mar 6 06:45:27 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Sun Mar 6 06:42:46 2005 Subject: WFSB changes their mind References: <422A54A4.28488.81AD63@localhost> Message-ID: <003701c52241$fe6d9420$6401a8c0@pastor2> The whole kaboodle, as you're probably aware, used to be owned by Travelers' Insurance Co. (T-I-C) Travelers' sold off the original WTIC-TV (now WFSB)to Post-Newsweek in the early '70s, then sold the radio stations to a local entrepreneur --- industrialist, I think --- named Chace a few years later. It was he who put the present WTIC-TV 61 on the air as a Fox affiliate. It was around that same time --- not long after GE's divestment of NBC Radio, if memory serves --- that WTIC-AM broke its long-standing ties to NBC and became a CBS affiliate. That paved the way to the eventual purchase of the radio stations by CBS. Mr. Chace subsequently sold WTIC-TV, too, and retired from the broadcasting business. He had also owned stations in Stamford and elsewhere in Connecticut. I don't know who bought WTIC-TV. Can someone else take over this thread from here? Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "Paul Anderson" ; "Boston Radio Mailing List" ; "Doug Drown" Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 12:53 AM Subject: Re: WFSB changes their mind > On 5 Mar 2005 at 11:47, Doug Drown wrote: > > > I remember when WFSB was WTIC-TV and shared the Constitution Plaza > > digs with the radio stations. Where are they now? I gather they > > don't share facilities with the newer incarnation of WTIC-TV (Fox), as > > they're Viacom-owned. > > WTIC-TV and WTIC radio are separately owned? > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > > From paulranderson@charter.net Sun Mar 6 09:23:42 2005 From: paulranderson@charter.net (Paul Anderson) Date: Sun Mar 6 09:23:57 2005 Subject: WFSB changes their mind In-Reply-To: <003701c52241$fe6d9420$6401a8c0@pastor2> References: <422A54A4.28488.81AD63@localhost> <003701c52241$fe6d9420$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <4597043b2c881e0c9cd4fa7551ae3de1@charter.net> On Mar 6, 2005, at 6:45 AM, Doug Drown wrote: > I don't know who bought WTIC-TV. Can someone else take over this > thread from here? Doesn't Tribune own WTIC-TV as well as WTXX (20) Waterbury? Paul From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Mar 6 13:14:16 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun Mar 6 13:14:26 2005 Subject: WCAP Off The Air Again Message-ID: <20050306181416.C680BC610F@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> As of noontime, Sunday March 13th, WCAP-AM 980 was off -the-air again. I'd say that they're having further problems with their phasors, but that would be just inviting more "Star Trek" jokes. -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From fox893@yahoo.com Sun Mar 6 13:47:26 2005 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Sun Mar 6 13:47:33 2005 Subject: WCAP Off The Air Again In-Reply-To: <20050306181416.C680BC610F@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20050306184726.69861.qmail@web54610.mail.yahoo.com> --- Laurence Glavin wrote: > As of noontime, Sunday March 13th, WCAP-AM 980 was > off -the-air again. The 13th?? So... time travelling again? __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Mar 6 13:57:58 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun Mar 6 13:58:07 2005 Subject: WCAP Off The Air Again Message-ID: <20050306185758.E3C59E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Cooper Fox" >To: "Laurence Glavin" , bri@bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: WCAP Off The Air Again >Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 10:47:26 -0800 (PST) > > > --- Laurence Glavin wrote: > > > As of noontime, Sunday March 13th, WCAP-AM 980 was > > off -the-air again. > > The 13th?? So... time travelling again? > > > > Ooops...I'm so eager to have this seemingly endless winter end that I lopped off a week in March! -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From gary@garysicecream.com Sun Mar 6 14:24:45 2005 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Sun Mar 6 14:25:01 2005 Subject: WCAP Off The Air Again In-Reply-To: <20050306185758.E3C59E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <200503061924.j26JOwaZ095220@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Actually just finishing the repairs to the phasor problem 2 weeks ago - the new parts have arrived and are being installed today. Have to do it at a time when the rf engineer is available. -gf -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Laurence Glavin Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 1:58 PM To: Cooper Fox; bri@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: WCAP Off The Air Again >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Cooper Fox" >To: "Laurence Glavin" , bri@bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: WCAP Off The Air Again >Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 10:47:26 -0800 (PST) > > > --- Laurence Glavin wrote: > > > As of noontime, Sunday March 13th, WCAP-AM 980 was off -the-air > > again. > > The 13th?? So... time travelling again? > > > > Ooops...I'm so eager to have this seemingly endless winter end that I lopped off a week in March! -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Mar 6 15:36:34 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun Mar 6 15:36:43 2005 Subject: WCAP Off The Air Again Message-ID: <20050306203634.9261AE5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gary's Ice Cream" >To: "'Laurence Glavin'" >Subject: RE: WCAP Off The Air Again >Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 14:24:45 -0500 > > > Actually just finishing the repairs to the phasor problem 2 weeks ago - the > new parts have arrived and are being installed today. Have to do it at a > time when the rf engineer is available. > > -gf > Well it just restablished the fact that WZAN-AM 970 in Portland has a killer signal here north of Boston. It came in like a local (with a touch of interference from the 970 in Southbridge, MA). I could still hear a station on 980, and by flipping from the Fox sports show on 970 to the exact same program on 980, at noontime, when there wasn't any skywave at all even during this particular period when we're getting skywave galore after sunrise and before sunset, I assume I was getting the Fox sports station in Troy, NY. -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From revdoug1@verizon.net Sun Mar 6 16:33:24 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Sun Mar 6 16:30:43 2005 Subject: WCAP Off The Air Again References: <20050306203634.9261AE5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <008001c52294$20c47fa0$6401a8c0@pastor2> Must be directional south, because it isn't a killer signal here in central Maine. However much WZAN's predecessor WCSH may have touted itself as "The Super Station" in its early years, WGAN's signal has always been much stronger within Maine itself. Inland. 'ZAN begins to trail off after Augusta. 'GAN can be heard all the way to Bangor. Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: "Gary's Ice Cream" Cc: "Boston radio e-mail list" Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 3:36 PM Subject: RE: WCAP Off The Air Again > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Gary's Ice Cream" > >To: "'Laurence Glavin'" > >Subject: RE: WCAP Off The Air Again > >Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 14:24:45 -0500 > > > > > > > Actually just finishing the repairs to the phasor problem 2 weeks ago - the > > new parts have arrived and are being installed today. Have to do it at a > > time when the rf engineer is available. > > > > -gf > > > Well it just restablished the fact that WZAN-AM 970 in Portland > has a killer signal here north of Boston. It came in like a local > (with a touch of interference from the 970 in Southbridge, MA). > I could still hear a station on 980, and by flipping from the > Fox sports show on 970 to the exact same program on 980, at > noontime, when there wasn't any skywave at all even during this > particular period when we're getting skywave galore after sunrise > and before sunset, I assume I was getting the Fox sports station in > Troy, NY. > > -- > _______________________________________________ > NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. > http://datingsearch.lycos.com > > From billings@suscom-maine.net Sun Mar 6 18:27:22 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sun Mar 6 18:27:30 2005 Subject: WCAP Off The Air Again References: <20050306203634.9261AE5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> <008001c52294$20c47fa0$6401a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <001d01c522a4$0cd90fa0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Drown" To: "Laurence Glavin" ; "Gary's Ice Cream" Cc: "Boston radio e-mail list" Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 4:33 PM Subject: Re: WCAP Off The Air Again > Must be directional south, because it isn't a killer signal here in > central > Maine. However much WZAN's predecessor WCSH may have touted itself as "The > Super Station" in its early years, WGAN's signal has always been much > stronger within Maine itself. Inland. 'ZAN begins to trail off after > Augusta. 'GAN can be heard all the way to Bangor. I listen to Imus on WZAN during my commute to Waterville. The signal is not real strong north of Augusta but it is listenable in my car. From brian_vita@cssinc.com Sun Mar 6 19:52:18 2005 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Sun Mar 6 19:52:27 2005 Subject: WCAP Off The Air Again Message-ID: <200503070052.TAA19143@colossus.bilow.com> Scotty! I need phasors! Brian Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St. - Ste. 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 (978)538-7575 -----Original Message----- >From: "Gary's Ice Cream" >Sent: 3/6/05 2:24:45 PM >To: "'Laurence Glavin'" >Cc: "Boston radio e-mail list" >Subject: RE: WCAP Off The Air Again > >Actually just finishing the repairs to the phasor problem 2 weeks ago - the >new parts have arrived and are being installed today. Have to do it at a >time when the rf engineer is available. > >-gf > >-----Original Message----- >From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >[mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of >Laurence Glavin >Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 1:58 PM >To: Cooper Fox; bri@bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: WCAP Off The Air Again > >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Cooper Fox" >>To: "Laurence Glavin" , bri@bostonradio.org >>Subject: Re: WCAP Off The Air Again >>Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 10:47:26 -0800 (PST) > >> >> >> --- Laurence Glavin wrote: >> >> > As of noontime, Sunday March 13th, WCAP-AM 980 was off -the-air >> > again. >> >> The 13th?? So... time travelling again? >> >> >> >> >Ooops...I'm so eager to have this seemingly endless winter end that I lopped >off a week in March! >-- >_______________________________________________ >NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at >once. >http://datingsearch.lycos.com > > From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Mar 7 16:50:46 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon Mar 7 16:50:56 2005 Subject: WCAP Off The Air Again Message-ID: <20050307215046.462B6CA06F@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Doug Drown" >To: "Laurence Glavin" , "Gary's Ice Cream" >Subject: Re: WCAP Off The Air Again >Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2005 16:33:24 -0500 > > Must be directional south, because it isn't a killer signal here in central > Maine. However much WZAN's predecessor WCSH may have touted itself as "The > Super Station" in its early years, WGAN's signal has always been much > stronger within Maine itself. Inland. 'ZAN begins to trail off after > Augusta. 'GAN can be heard all the way to Bangor. > > Doug > According to fcc.gov, WZAN operates ND-Days. Its location is south of Portland, so it travels in this direction very nicely thank you. And last summer (will we ever have another?), I got a below-market rental of a house on Cape Cod, and WZAN seemed to be as strong as WBZ, yes WBZ, which aims away from the Cape. -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From billings@suscom-maine.net Mon Mar 7 18:56:38 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Mon Mar 7 18:56:43 2005 Subject: New Maine AM? Message-ID: <000d01c52371$4effc9f0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> The Times Record tonight reports that a new AM radio tower is planned for Richmond, Maine. Richmond is the next town north of me and is about 20 miles from Augusta. The station will be owned by Alpine Broadcasting Corp. of Liberty, Mo. which owns KCXL there. The station in Maine will be talk like the Missouri station. The Missouri station has an odd collection of shows: http://www.kcxl.com/index.htm Can someone check the FCC status of this station's application and tell me what frequency it would be on? The owner of the proposed station says he does not expect the station to be on the air any time soon. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Mar 7 19:42:56 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Mon Mar 7 19:43:05 2005 Subject: New Maine AM? References: <000d01c52371$4effc9f0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <000901c52377$cc548a20$19eefea9@satpro4600> 1120 kHz 1 kW-D (two towers) 600W-N (three towers). According to the FCC's AM Query, it's still just an application. The day pattern is a broad modified cardioid aimed north-northeast (23 degrees). The night pattern is a tight three tower pattern not unlike WTTT's night pattern but with smaller lobes behind the array. The line of towers towers is at 132 degrees. The towers are 195' so they won't be illuminated unless there is an airport nearby. There should be four towers total, with one common between day and night. Although the day-pattern minimum is to the south-southwest, the day coverage will be OK in the southeast direction of the night pattern. The original application specified ND days but the day tower was not common with the night array, which used three very short towers and higher night power (1 kW) to produce a pattern very similar to the one now being proposed for night. My guess is that this WILL be granted. The question then will become whether the applicant will go through with constructing. Don't know what land costs are up there, but the acreage would not be considered trivial down here. And you've got NIMBY's up there too. Once the land is in hand and the necessary local permits have been granted, I think the construction cost will be in the neighborhhod of half a million. Sounds like a great chance to lose a good chunk of money. -- Dan Strassberg dan.strassberg@att.net Fax: 1-707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Billings" To: Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 6:56 PM Subject: New Maine AM? > The Times Record tonight reports that a new AM radio tower is planned for > Richmond, Maine. Richmond is the next town north of me and is about 20 > miles from Augusta. The station will be owned by Alpine Broadcasting Corp. > of Liberty, Mo. which owns KCXL there. The station in Maine will be talk > like the Missouri station. The Missouri station has an odd collection of > shows: http://www.kcxl.com/index.htm > > Can someone check the FCC status of this station's application and tell me > what frequency it would be on? > > The owner of the proposed station says he does not expect the station to be > on the air any time soon. > > -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine > > From revdoug1@verizon.net Mon Mar 7 19:53:47 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Mon Mar 7 19:51:03 2005 Subject: New Maine AM? References: <000d01c52371$4effc9f0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <010c01c52379$49a12640$6401a8c0@pastor2> I checked out the website. Um . . . interesting, to say the least. "An odd collection of shows" would seem to be a considerable understatement. I wonder if the proliferation of talk radio programs, all-news formats, Christian broadcasting, et.al. may be pointing to a renascence of small-town AM. The two new AM stations in the Bangor area seem to be doing well, and Augusta's "Kids 1340" (the old WFAU), oriented toward elementary school and pre-teen children, has an enjoyable and rather unique format, from what I've heard of it. Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Billings" To: Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 6:56 PM Subject: New Maine AM? > The Times Record tonight reports that a new AM radio tower is planned for > Richmond, Maine. Richmond is the next town north of me and is about 20 > miles from Augusta. The station will be owned by Alpine Broadcasting Corp. > of Liberty, Mo. which owns KCXL there. The station in Maine will be talk > like the Missouri station. The Missouri station has an odd collection of > shows: http://www.kcxl.com/index.htm > > Can someone check the FCC status of this station's application and tell me > what frequency it would be on? > > The owner of the proposed station says he does not expect the station to be > on the air any time soon. > > -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine > > > From rjoc@webtv.net Mon Mar 7 21:01:42 2005 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Mon Mar 7 21:01:51 2005 Subject: New Maine AM? Message-ID: <20050308020142.D7FD5D628@smtpout-3204.bay.webtv.net> There is also an application for a new AM on 1240 in Ellsworth, and isn't there also an application for 1230 in either Hermon or Hampden, outside of Bangor? I wonder if the Alpine Broadcasting mentioned in the link is the same company that used to own WHOM back in late 70's, early 80's. (Probably not) I still have a sign-on from WHOM circa 1979 on a cassette tape I found recently while cleaning out files, tape reels, old air-checks and junk on a cold snowbound day. Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine From billo@shoreham.net Mon Mar 7 21:12:28 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill.....) Date: Mon Mar 7 21:12:46 2005 Subject: 92.5 Poultney Message-ID: <422D0A0C.2050303@shoreham.net> Reading the ever-informative and peerless reportage of Scott Fybush that there's a future signal expected at 92.5 (3 kW) in Poultney, VT. Any ideas what's expected with it? It sounds like it could do well into Rutland to the east (studio location?) rim-shot south to Bennington, okay to Manchester Center, and decent in Middlebury to the north? Across to NY, one would expect Glens Falls, Fort Anne, etc., if not better. 92.5 in Montreal does very well as far south as Vergennes, Shelburne, etc. Strong interference with 92.1 Port Henry in this area. Bill O'Neill -- Peace -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/2005 From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Mon Mar 7 22:17:40 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Mon Mar 7 22:17:43 2005 Subject: New Maine AM? Message-ID: <200503072217.AA418709614@mail.ttlc.net> "Rod O'Connor" writ: >There is also an application for a new AM on 1240 in Ellsworth, and isn't there also an application for 1230 in either Hermon or Hampden, outside of Bangor? Isn't WCOU on 1240? Probably showing my age. From rjoc@webtv.net Mon Mar 7 22:33:13 2005 From: rjoc@webtv.net (Rod O'Connor) Date: Mon Mar 7 22:33:20 2005 Subject: New Maine AM? Message-ID: <20050308033313.3A1A6D6B1@smtpout-3202.bay.webtv.net> According to FCC WebSite new calls are WCNM 1240 Lewiston. While on the site, I did an AM Query for all stations in Maine. Noticed that there are applications for 1230 in Hampden, just outside of Bangor, and Newport ME, 25 miles west of Bangor. Actually all sorts of good stuff on that site...check it out.. go to FCC.gov, click on Media bureau on right side of homepage, then scroll down the menus on left for AM Query, FM Query or TV Query. Rod O'Connor Southwest Harbor, Maine From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Mar 8 08:26:51 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue Mar 8 08:26:55 2005 Subject: WAMG, WLLH Message-ID: <002301c523e2$8112c840$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I'm taking the liberty of cross-posting a message I posted yesterday on the Boston board at radio-info.com. There has been a lot of speculation there about the format of WAMG and WLLH after the transfer from Mega to Walter Sutton, a principal in Route 81 Radio, whose properties have heretofore mostly been concentrated in cental New York and northeastern Pennsylvania. The cross-posted message follows: The mystery may have been solved. According to today's FCC actions, the name of the company that has applied to buy WAMG and WLLH is J-Sports. Do you suppose that Sutton is buying in anticipation of Sporting News Radio bailing out of WWZN? Buying 890 and 1400 would allow the two stations to divide the "audience" that WWZN is alleged to be walking away from. Since the reports here have indicated that WWZN has been getting zero shares, I hope that leaves at least one listener for the each of these new sports stations. A few people will recall 890's previous incarnation (or is it incarnations?) as a sports-talk station. One was under Prime Sports, which was responsible for the WBPS calls that outlived the format. Rumor had it that Prime wasn't doing that badly with 890--audience-wise, but folded after running into financial difficulties that may have been unrelated to the Boston (well, officially Dedham) station. I wonder whether the company name may be some sort of ploy (as is often done with call signs before a format flip) to mislead possible competitors. I'm sure that having "Sports" in the company name doesn't obligate the new owners to run a sports format. As for WWZN, if 890 and 1400 really are flipping to sports talk, it would be a pretty sure bet that WWZN would flip to Spanish--however not until Sporting News straightens out the billing irregularity problems (isn't that the term that was used in the company's press release?) that are allegedly delaying the sale of the company's three stations (WWZN, WSNR, and KMPC). Now here's a good Boston radio trivia question (for which I don't have the answer): How many times, with what calls and what owners, has 1510 done Spanish? And weren't all such formats on 1510 brokered? -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 From markwats@comcast.net Tue Mar 8 16:44:23 2005 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Tue Mar 8 16:44:34 2005 Subject: Cool 96.5 Gone, Now Classic Rock Message-ID: <001d01c52427$ff883c10$6f918318@Mark> On my way home this afternoon, tuned into WCQL (96.5 Bedford NH) and heard "Back In Black" by AC-DC, followed by a recorded liner "Classic Rock is Now Playing In Manchester", then Bruce Springsteen's "Dancing In The Dark", followed by same recorded liner, etc. They're running jockless at this time. Anyone know what's up with this format change? Mark Watson From jjlehmann@comcast.net Tue Mar 8 16:54:29 2005 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Tue Mar 8 16:54:52 2005 Subject: Cool 96.5 Gone, Now Classic Rock In-Reply-To: <001d01c52427$ff883c10$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <200503082154.j28Lsod5021130@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> Wow, I never would've expected that. They were doing pretty well in the ratings, at least 12+ (but I know those mean nothing). Kind of funny that they've gone back to the format that they signed on the air with, I think it was "The Fox" WOXF? Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA >-----Original Message----- >From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston- >radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Mark Watson >Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 4:44 PM >To: Boston Radio >Subject: Cool 96.5 Gone, Now Classic Rock > > On my way home this afternoon, tuned into WCQL (96.5 Bedford NH) and >heard "Back In Black" by AC-DC, followed by a recorded liner "Classic Rock >is Now Playing In Manchester", then Bruce Springsteen's "Dancing In The >Dark", followed by same recorded liner, etc. They're running jockless at >this time. Anyone know what's up with this format change? > >Mark Watson > From billings@suscom-maine.net Tue Mar 8 17:39:14 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Tue Mar 8 17:39:18 2005 Subject: New Maine AM? References: <000d01c52371$4effc9f0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <000901c52377$cc548a20$19eefea9@satpro4600> Message-ID: <000f01c5242f$a8924bf0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Strassberg" To: "Daniel Billings" Cc: "Boston Radio Interest" Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 7:42 PM Subject: Re: New Maine AM? > 1120 kHz 1 kW-D (two towers) 600W-N (three towers). According to the FCC's > AM Query, it's still just an application. The day pattern is a broad > modified cardioid aimed north-northeast (23 degrees). The night pattern is > a > tight three tower pattern not unlike WTTT's night pattern but with smaller > lobes behind the array. The line of towers towers is at 132 degrees. The > towers are 195' so they won't be illuminated unless there is an airport > nearby. There should be four towers total, with one common between day and > night. Although the day-pattern minimum is to the south-southwest, the day > coverage will be OK in the southeast direction of the night pattern. ABout how much land would that take? > Don't know > what land costs are up there, but the acreage would not be considered > trivial down here. And you've got NIMBY's up there too. Once the land is > in > hand and the necessary local permits have been granted, I think the > construction cost will be in the neighborhhod of half a million. Sounds > like > a great chance to lose a good chunk of money. The usual 1 acre building lot costs about $35K in Richmond. Larger, undivided lots can be had for reasonable prices, depending upon location and topography. Richmond is a small, rural town with a traditional New England village and a population of about 3200. There are lots of rural areas of the town where towers would not likely cause much controversy. There are other areas of town where towers would be very controversial. From hykker@grolen.com Tue Mar 8 21:57:10 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue Mar 8 21:56:54 2005 Subject: Cool 96.5 Gone, Now Classic Rock In-Reply-To: <200503082154.j28Lsod5021130@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> References: <001d01c52427$ff883c10$6f918318@Mark> <200503082154.j28Lsod5021130@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050308215451.01b46ec0@pop3.grolen.com> Jeff Lehmann wrote: >Wow, I never would've expected that. They were doing pretty well in the >ratings, at least 12+ (but I know those mean nothing). Kind of funny that >they've gone back to the format that they signed on the air with, I think it >was "The Fox" WOXF? I thought the Fox was AAA. I'm pretty sure they reported to the trades as such. Definitely don't remember hearing anything especially "heavy" there. From raccoonradio@myway.com Wed Mar 9 03:41:01 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Mar 9 03:41:18 2005 Subject: Battle of the Talk Radio Hosts Message-ID: <20050309084101.94FC539E2@mprdmxin.myway.com> A tape trader gave me an mp3 of KIRO/Seattle's "Battle of the Talk Hosts". It's apparently the fourth or fifth such event: they get the various talk hosts (who run the political gamut from left to right) and have a fast-paced debate in front of a live audience at a local theatre, etc. I thought it was pretty good...maybe a Boston talk radio station could do something similar? As a matter of fact, KIRO's owner, Entercom, does have a certain talk station here in town... Picture WRKO's Scoot and Blotto--er, Blute and Scotto, John "My Website Still Says I'm In Providence" DePetro, Howie "Fried Clams with Tar-Tar Sauce" Carr...maybe Clapprood and Whitley, too...bring VB back to be the emcee. Who knows, they could do it as a benefit for a charity (and actually they may have done something similar to this at one of the Taste of Boston events; who knows). And have it _live on the air_, as KIRO did. Or it could be done on WBZ (Sullivan, Leveille, Lovell "I Love You, I Love You Madly" Dyett) or WTKK (Eagan and Braude, Mike "The Tough Street kid From Lincoln" Barnicle, "Flattop" Jay Severin, etc.) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Wed Mar 9 03:43:38 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Mar 9 03:43:51 2005 Subject: Cool 96.5 Gone, Now Classic Rock Message-ID: <20050309084338.B14E23977@mprdmxin.myway.com> Yes, a co-worker of mine who lives in Methuen and regularly listened to Cool 96.5 told me that they're now doing classic rock (and he was disappointed...) Heard tonight between 2:30 and 3 am: Springsteen, Tom Petty, Peter Gabriel... The main page of their website (http://www.cool96.5.com) tells of their new format and nickname, The Mill (though other pages from their website are still online, and they still say "Oldies" and "Cool 96.5"--probably will be changed soon) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Mar 9 13:17:13 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed Mar 9 13:18:05 2005 Subject: Jim Sands query Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050309131634.022da1c0@pop.registeredsite.com> Somebody just asked me whatever happened to Jim Sands, and what was the name of his theme song for his oldies show. I truly have no answer to either question. Does anyone else???? From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Mar 9 13:26:26 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed Mar 9 13:27:29 2005 Subject: Jim Sands query In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050309131634.022da1c0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <422EF982.1773.2406AB@localhost> On 9 Mar 2005 Donna Halper wrote: > Somebody just asked me whatever happened to Jim Sands, and what was > the name of his theme song for his oldies show. I truly have no > answer to either question. Does anyone else???? I seem to remember a closing song that went "Good night, Jim Sands, well it's time to go" to the tune of "Good night, Sweetheart." -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Mar 10 16:51:24 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Mar 10 16:51:32 2005 Subject: Lawrence/Haverhill To Get New Edgewater Translator Message-ID: <20050310215124.DA829E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> I see in a recent FCC Daily Digest that an application appeared for a translator on 99.9 in the Haverhill/Lawrence area to be operated by Edgewater Communications. That choice of frequency is interesting because a couple of years ago, a preacher in Lawrence believed that FM's didn't have to be licensed if they they ran at less than 100 watts! So he set up a "religious" FM on 99.9 transmitting from somewhere in downtown Lawrence (downtown Lawrence?)with 99 watts. The outlet didn't last long, but it proved that 99.9 mhz could work just a few air miles from the powerful 99.5 transmitter of WKLB-FM. So Edgewater will pick up from where its predecessor left off, evidently from the Ward Hill area of Haverhill, with a measly 8 watts according to fcc.gov. -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Fri Mar 11 11:47:35 2005 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Fri Mar 11 11:47:46 2005 Subject: True radio geek dream Message-ID: <20050311164736.91419.qmail@web52604.mail.yahoo.com> Last night I had this very unusual dream that only other radio geeks can truly appreciate or even understand. I dreamed that I was at this radio station somewhere, it it was located in someone's house. The studio was located in this closet off of the master bedroom, and it was a country station. It ran the show 'American Country Countdown,' and the studio had a very odd setup. It consisted of a computer without a working monitor, and a small alarm clock with a CD player somehow wired into the system as the studio CD player. Because the countdown came in on CDs, the show actually ran off of that alarm clock CD player. Well, the first segment of the show ended, and it came time for the first local commercial break. Whoever was working hit the wrong button on the computer, and some strange music started playing over the air. Since the computer monitor was broken, they couldn't tell what they had done, panicked and switched the studio speakers to something else to listen to. At this point they asked me to fix the system. All I did was came in, cued up the next show segment on the CD player, switched the studio monitors back to where they belonged, the song playing on the air was ending, and as it faded out, I started the next segment of American Country Countdown. At that point, everything went back to normal. So I guess that even though I've been out of radio for 4 years now, once its in you you can't ever truly get it completely out of your system. Matt Osborne Poughkeepsie, NY __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From gary@garysicecream.com Fri Mar 11 12:59:46 2005 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Fri Mar 11 13:00:09 2005 Subject: True radio geek dream In-Reply-To: <20050311164736.91419.qmail@web52604.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200503111800.j2BHxvaZ058300@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Sounds suspiciously like the "Music & Memories Overnight" studio that WCAP comes from - it is 3 feet from my bedroom - I can look up from bed at night and see the LED VU's bouncing. Of course the monitor works (especially if you give it a good smack on the top when it starts to show all plasma colors). -gary francis -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Osborne Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 11:48 AM To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Subject: True radio geek dream Last night I had this very unusual dream that only other radio geeks can truly appreciate or even understand. I dreamed that I was at this radio station somewhere, it it was located in someone's house. The studio was located in this closet off of the master bedroom, and it was a country station. It ran the show 'American Country Countdown,' and the studio had a very odd setup. It consisted of a computer without a working monitor, and a small alarm clock with a CD player somehow wired into the system as the studio CD player. Because the countdown came in on CDs, the show actually ran off of that alarm clock CD player. Well, the first segment of the show ended, and it came time for the first local commercial break. Whoever was working hit the wrong button on the computer, and some strange music started playing over the air. Since the computer monitor was broken, they couldn't tell what they had done, panicked and switched the studio speakers to something else to listen to. At this point they asked me to fix the system. All I did was came in, cued up the next show segment on the CD player, switched the studio monitors back to where they belonged, the song playing on the air was ending, and as it faded out, I started the next segment of American Country Countdown. At that point, everything went back to normal. So I guess that even though I've been out of radio for 4 years now, once its in you you can't ever truly get it completely out of your system. Matt Osborne Poughkeepsie, NY __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rickkelly@gmail.com Fri Mar 11 15:32:45 2005 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Fri Mar 11 15:32:56 2005 Subject: True radio geek dream In-Reply-To: <20050311164736.91419.qmail@web52604.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050311164736.91419.qmail@web52604.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <521b7fd1050311123211590838@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:47:35 -0800 (PST), Matthew Osborne wrote: > Last night I had this very unusual dream that only > other radio geeks can truly appreciate My one recurring nightmare is that I am in the studio, on the air, and no matter what do... throwing switches, pushing buttons, twisting pots, I can't get anything on the air. I wake up in a cold sweat. I haven't been on the air in 10 years, and still have this dream several times a year. Rick Kelly www.northeastairchecks.com From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Fri Mar 11 17:15:44 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Fri Mar 11 17:15:48 2005 Subject: True radio geek dream Message-ID: <200503111715.AA227672554@mail.ttlc.net> Rick Kelly wrote: >My one recurring nightmare is that I am in the studio, on the air, and >no matter what do... throwing switches, pushing buttons, twisting >pots, I can't get anything on the air. I wake up in a cold sweat. I >haven't been on the air in 10 years, and still have this dream several >times a year. When I worked as a board op on WRKO ('70 - '73), I never dreamt about those things, but while driving to work, if there was dead air, my first instict was to look for the VU meter on my car's dashboard. From brian_vita@cssinc.com Fri Mar 11 18:42:49 2005 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Fri Mar 11 18:42:49 2005 Subject: True radio geek dream In-Reply-To: <521b7fd1050311123211590838@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000201c52694$09839200$4900a8c0@Adrastea> > On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 08:47:35 -0800 (PST), Matthew Osborne > wrote: > > > Last night I had this very unusual dream that only > > other radio geeks can truly appreciate > > My one recurring nightmare is that I am in the studio, on the > air, and no matter what do... throwing switches, pushing > buttons, twisting pots, I can't get anything on the air. I > wake up in a cold sweat. I haven't been on the air in 10 > years, and still have this dream several times a year. That's not a dream. We call it an airshift at WMWM.... Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 75 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA +1-978-538-7575 voice +1-978-538-7550 fax www.cssinc.com From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Mar 11 19:26:46 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Fri Mar 11 19:26:50 2005 Subject: True radio geek dream References: <20050311164736.91419.qmail@web52604.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000b01c5269a$2cbf97e0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> You know how some people have dreams about showing up for a test and not knowing any of the material? I have dreams where I am dumped into a radio studio and an unable to keep things going without having dead air. In some of the dreams, I am in a modern studio and am having trouble with the computer system, but sometimes I am in an old studio and am unable to get records cued up in time. I have not worked in radio for a year and a half and I still have such dreams from time to time. And yes, I am old enough to have played records on the radio. Right Chuck? -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From scott@fybush.com Fri Mar 11 19:28:38 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Fri Mar 11 19:28:37 2005 Subject: WSDH, Sandwich Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050311192743.0326e768@gwind.pair.com> Still part of the WBUR simulcast? I just got some information that leads me to believe it may not be anymore...but I know we have some folks on the list who could say so with more certainty than I... s From hykker@grolen.com Fri Mar 11 20:35:55 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Mar 11 20:35:38 2005 Subject: True radio geek dream In-Reply-To: <000b01c5269a$2cbf97e0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <20050311164736.91419.qmail@web52604.mail.yahoo.com> <000b01c5269a$2cbf97e0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050311203343.01af2ff8@pop3.grolen.com> Daniel Billings wrote: > I have dreams where I am dumped into a radio studio and an unable to > keep things going without having dead air. In some of the dreams, I am > in a modern studio and am having trouble with the computer system, but > sometimes I am in an old studio and am unable to get records cued up in > time. I have not worked in radio for a year and a half and I still have > such dreams from time to time. I've had that one myself. The song on the air is running out, and you can't find anything to play next. Station/studio/format vary but always the same plot. Still have it from time to time and other than an occasional fill-in, haven't done a shift in 5-6 yr. From n1qgs@yahoo.com Sat Mar 12 01:39:28 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Sat Mar 12 01:39:37 2005 Subject: WNDS TV 50 Derry NH had two weathermen live on same newscast this evening. Message-ID: <20050312063928.60055.qmail@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Al Kaprilean is the usual high-pitched weathercaster on WNDS channel 50 Derry NH, and his fill in is Rick Gordon. Some would argue they are the same person a la Clark Kent and Superman. This evening, the 10pm newscast featured Al in the Studio and Rick doing a live remote. That is if you call the TV station parking lot a remote! John B Derry NH From edward_cochran@msn.com Sat Mar 12 12:09:26 2005 From: edward_cochran@msn.com (EDWARD COCHRAN) Date: Sat Mar 12 12:09:37 2005 Subject: WSDH, Sandwich References: <5.1.0.14.0.20050311192743.0326e768@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: WSDH is simulcasting WBUR right now. Ed Cochran Sandwich, MA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fybush" To: Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 7:28 PM Subject: WSDH, Sandwich > Still part of the WBUR simulcast? I just got some information that leads > me > to believe it may not be anymore...but I know we have some folks on the > list who could say so with more certainty than I... > > s > > From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sun Mar 13 02:22:37 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sun Mar 13 02:23:06 2005 Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck Message-ID: <006e01c5279d$727758a0$1404fea9@xyz> I caught the aircheck of Pat Patterson (aka, "Fat Pat" and "Mr's Patterson's oldest and heaviest child"!) on WCOP in 1961 on the Northeast Airchecks web site: http://northeastairchecks.com/ Just curious....what years would have been WCOP's most sucessful years. I recall that in the late 70's 1150AM went thru numerous format changes...(Anyone remember WACQ?) Right now when I listen to 1150AM in downtown Boston at night, I can sometimes hear another station battling it in the background...and this is in downtown Boston!) Was the signal always bad? I suppose the call letters 'COP had to do with COPley Square? Did they ever have a studio there? I was suprised not to hear any network newcasts on that 1961 aircheck. I would have thought that a station like WCOP would have been dependent on a network. HAs WCOP always been thought of as an "also ran"? Did the public always think of this station as a 'second rate' effort? With all that, I was suprised how good this aircheck was! Pretty entertaining for 1961! I can't imagine that WNAC was doing anything much better in 1961. What was NAC, HDH and BZ Doing in '61?) And if you haven't listened to the aircheck you might enjoy it at: http://northeastairchecks.com/ It's about 18 minutes.... JP From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Mar 13 04:02:58 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun Mar 13 04:03:49 2005 Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck In-Reply-To: <006e01c5279d$727758a0$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050313040110.023dd458@pop.registeredsite.com> >Joe asked-- > >Just curious....what years would have been WCOP's most sucessful years. I don't know how we define "success"-- but when I was a kid (in the mid 50s), WCOP was doing top-40 and fairly popular. I'm not sure if they ever were a dominant force in Boston, no matter what format they had, but some well respected announcers like Nelson Bragg and Jack Chase worked there in the 50s. From revdoug1@verizon.net Sun Mar 13 08:00:10 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Sun Mar 13 07:57:24 2005 Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck References: <006e01c5279d$727758a0$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <009b01c527cc$971cdcf0$6501a8c0@pastor2> I used to listen to WCOP-FM (which simulcast the AM) in the mid- and late-'60s from my home in Ashburnham. If memory serves, the station had a pop/easy listening format, and was an NBC affiliate, WEZE having left NBC at that point. The station was owned by Plough, Inc. (yes, THAT Plough, the pharmaceutical company, which owned several major-market stations). It had a great sound. I suspect that even though it had a 5,000-watt signal, as compared with WBZ, WNAC and WHDH, it wasn't considered an "also-ran." After all, in the early '60s, there weren't that many stations in the city. (WMEX was only a 5-kw'er at the time, and it certainly wasn't an "also-ran"!) That having been said, however, we couldn't get the AM signal very well out in the Gardner-Fitchburg area. Pretty directional, I would guess. The same was true with 'MEX. Am I wrong in thinking that 'COP (or one of its many successors) was a country station for a while? Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Pappalardo" To: Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 2:22 AM Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck > > > I caught the aircheck of Pat Patterson (aka, "Fat Pat" and "Mr's Patterson's > oldest and heaviest child"!) on WCOP in 1961 on the Northeast Airchecks web > site: > > http://northeastairchecks.com/ > > Just curious....what years would have been WCOP's most sucessful years. > > I recall that in the late 70's 1150AM went thru numerous format > changes...(Anyone remember WACQ?) > > Right now when I listen to 1150AM in downtown Boston at night, I can > sometimes hear another station battling it in the background...and this is > in downtown Boston!) > > Was the signal always bad? > > I suppose the call letters 'COP had to do with COPley Square? > > Did they ever have a studio there? > > I was suprised not to hear any network newcasts on that 1961 aircheck. I > would have thought that a station like WCOP would have been dependent on a > network. > > HAs WCOP always been thought of as an "also ran"? Did the public always > think of this station as a 'second rate' effort? > > With all that, I was suprised how good this aircheck was! Pretty > entertaining for 1961! I can't imagine that WNAC was doing anything much > better in 1961. What was NAC, HDH and BZ Doing in '61?) > > And if you haven't listened to the aircheck you might enjoy it at: > > http://northeastairchecks.com/ > > It's about 18 minutes.... > > JP > > > From paulcurrier@adelphia.net Sun Mar 13 07:59:06 2005 From: paulcurrier@adelphia.net (Paul B. Currier) Date: Sun Mar 13 07:59:11 2005 Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050313040110.023dd458@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <002801c527cc$70db2970$97033418@DG07P241> Yes, WCOP was quite popular in the 50's with their Top 40 lists and personalities. I think Bill Marlowe did a stint here probably before he went to WBZ. I'm trying to shake some of the rust out and recall more of the other personalities.......... I think they were C&W previous to going to pop then top 40.. Paul Sandwich CC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Joseph Pappalardo" ; Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 4:02 AM Subject: Re: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck > > >Joe asked-- > > > >Just curious....what years would have been WCOP's most sucessful years. > > I don't know how we define "success"-- but when I was a kid (in the mid > 50s), WCOP was doing top-40 and fairly popular. I'm not sure if they ever > were a dominant force in Boston, no matter what format they had, but some > well respected announcers like Nelson Bragg and Jack Chase worked there in > the 50s. > > From DonKelley@aol.com Sun Mar 13 08:32:12 2005 From: DonKelley@aol.com (DonKelley@aol.com) Date: Sun Mar 13 08:32:27 2005 Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck Message-ID: <70885444.7A3862DE.0238A7FB@aol.com> "Joseph Pappalardo" writes:>>I caught the aircheck of Pat Patterson (aka, "Fat Pat" and "Mr's Patterson's>oldest and heaviest child"!) on WCOP in 1961 on the Northeast Airchecks web>site: http://northeastairchecks.com/>Just curious....what years would have been WCOP's most sucessful years. WCOP, at least in the last 50 years, didn't have any particularly successful years. ?WCOP was a Top 40 station in the late 50's, but was forced to switch to Country when WBZ went Top 40. ?It hung around but did little in the way of numbers until about 1975 when, as Joe Pappalardo notes, it became WACQ (sor tof a Hot AC before it's time) for a short period. ? WACQ turned into Sunny, featuring Frank Sinatra, Dionne Warwick, Barbra Streisand, etc. Then it was WHUE, Beautiful Music. ?I think it was also WCOZ for a day or two in the early 80's. ?Around 1984 Greater Media picked it up and revived the old WMEX calls (they had beeen on 1510 for many years but were dropped in the 70's) and went Oldies. ?WMEX 1150 would get a 1.0, maybe a 1.5, for about three years, but when WODS went on the air WMEX was toast. ?In 1989 it became Business Radio 1150 but never showed in Arbitron. ?In 1991 it became a simulcast of MAGIC 106.7, then became a brokered foreign-language station. ?Around 1994 the station became WNFT (Nifty 1150), carrying KidStar - an early verison of the Radio Disney-type format. ?The KidStar network went under. Back to foreign language. ?In 1996 it became WROR. ?This wa sa way for Greater Media to "warehouse" those calls in poreparation for the debut of the new 105.7 WROR later that year. ? Then it was sold to ARS, and subsequently to Mega, and it has been Spanish for the last several years. >Was the signal always bad? Yes, it was always a bad signal. >I suppose the call letters 'COP had to do with COPley Square?>Did they ever have a studio there? Probably WCOP stood for Copley Square - although I had also heard that it stood for Coppertone. ?For many years WCOP was owned by Plough, the makers of Coppertone. ?The TOH ID used to say "WCOP, Boston...a broadcast service of Plough, Incorporated!" They did have a studio on Clarendon Street. >I was suprised not to hear any network newcasts on that 1961 >aircheck. ?I would have thought that a station like WCOP >would have been dependent on a network. On the aircheck there's a feed from a reporter named George Berkeley in Berlin who does a customized feed for WCOP, even mentioning the sponsors. ?There's an obvious edit when he does the lockout. ?He was probably an NBC or AP reporter. ?I know that by the mid-to-late 60's WCOP was an NBC affiliate. >Has WCOP always been thought of as an "also ran"? ?Did the public always>think of this station as a 'second rate' effort?>Yes. >What was NAC, HDH and BZ Doing in '61?) WNAC was your Companion Station, 68. ?A full-service station with some MOR music and lots of talk shows (they ahd a 3-person morning show..Roy, Jim and Gus). ?They considered switchng to Top 40 in the early 60's...a few years before they actually did. WHDH was a big gun. ?Your dial's alive at 85. ?MOR music (The Chairman of the Board, Mr. Francis Albert Sinatra; Steve Lawrence & Eydie Gorme; Miss Nancy Wilson; Tony Bennett, etc). Jess Cain in the morning, Fred B. Cole in Midday, Alan Dary in the afternoon, Ken & Bill in the early evening (a live piano and organ duet), Red Sox games, and Norm Nathan doing "Sounds in the Night" from his comfortable but not overly ostentatious studio. WBZ was Top. W (snap) BZ, Radio 103. ?Top 40 but with a big news image. ?Carl DeSuze in the morning, Dave Maynard in midday, Kevin O'Keefe in PM DRive, a talk show called Contact with Bob Nelson (later Bob Kennedy) in early evening, Bruce Bradley at night, and Jefferson Kaye doing Club JK overnight. ?O'Keefe and Kaye were switched, with Kaye taking over PM Drive and the overnight becoming Club OK. Kevin disliked the move to overnights and left to become a traffic reporter. ?he was replaced on BZ by Dick Summer. ? All the kids listened to WBZ. ?I had a great big sound and you could take it 'round the town. ?Their parents listened to WHDH. ? ? -Don Kelley From markwats@comcast.net Sun Mar 13 10:44:10 2005 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sun Mar 13 10:44:20 2005 Subject: Fill In Host On WZLX Message-ID: <004501c527e3$8242c300$6f918318@Mark> I read the other day in the Boston Herald that WZLX (100.7 Boston) morning host Steve Sweeney will be on vacation this coming week (3/14-3/18) and filling in for Sweeney is David Lee Roth, who was a member of the rock band Van Halen. I wonder how many Van Halen tunes he'll play? For those not familiar, Mr. Roth and his former band have had less than harmonious experiences over the past several years. Should make for interesting listening. Mark Watson From raccoonradio@myway.com Sun Mar 13 11:27:26 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Sun Mar 13 11:27:38 2005 Subject: BRW, Globe: WAMG. WLLH to go ESPN Message-ID: <20050313162726.85E7B3957@mprdmxin.myway.com> http://www.bostonradiowatch.com http://www.boston.com/sports/other_sports/articles/2005/03/13/espn_radio_finally_finds_an_outlet/ WEEI hopes to keep ESPN's baseball coverage but who knows. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From ssmyth@psu.edu Sun Mar 13 11:43:31 2005 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Sun Mar 13 11:43:34 2005 Subject: BRW, Globe: WAMG. WLLH to go ESPN Message-ID: <200503131643.LAA17335@webmail1.cac.psu.edu> On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:27:26, "Bob Nelson" wrote: > > http://www.bostonradiowatch.com > > http://www.boston.com/sports/other_sports/articles/2005/03/13/espn_radio_finally_finds_an_outlet/ > > WEEI hopes to keep ESPN's baseball coverage but who knows. Whither WCCM as well? I thought ESPN did exclusivity deals in its markets, but I must be wrong. I'm surprised it wasn't FOX Sports Radio/Premiere -- unless FOX's deal with WEEI to carry JT calls for exclusivity. I still think Jim Rome's midday Premiere show would do really well here in the Boston market if a station picked up his show. From paulcurrier@adelphia.net Sun Mar 13 12:44:24 2005 From: paulcurrier@adelphia.net (Paul B. Currier) Date: Sun Mar 13 12:44:29 2005 Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck References: <006e01c5279d$727758a0$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <003401c527f4$4bec5490$97033418@DG07P241> Thank you JP, I must disappear for a few hours or days as I go through this marvelous list of airchecks.......... And of course it has the most famous Glick Oranatang clip.... Paul C, Sandwich CC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Pappalardo" To: Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 2:22 AM Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck > > > I caught the aircheck of Pat Patterson (aka, "Fat Pat" and "Mr's Patterson's > oldest and heaviest child"!) on WCOP in 1961 on the Northeast Airchecks web > site: > > http://northeastairchecks.com/ > > Just curious....what years would have been WCOP's most sucessful years. > > I recall that in the late 70's 1150AM went thru numerous format > changes...(Anyone remember WACQ?) > > Right now when I listen to 1150AM in downtown Boston at night, I can > sometimes hear another station battling it in the background...and this is > in downtown Boston!) > > Was the signal always bad? > > I suppose the call letters 'COP had to do with COPley Square? > > Did they ever have a studio there? > > I was suprised not to hear any network newcasts on that 1961 aircheck. I > would have thought that a station like WCOP would have been dependent on a > network. > > HAs WCOP always been thought of as an "also ran"? Did the public always > think of this station as a 'second rate' effort? > > With all that, I was suprised how good this aircheck was! Pretty > entertaining for 1961! I can't imagine that WNAC was doing anything much > better in 1961. What was NAC, HDH and BZ Doing in '61?) > > And if you haven't listened to the aircheck you might enjoy it at: > > http://northeastairchecks.com/ > > It's about 18 minutes.... > > JP > > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Sun Mar 13 12:55:49 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sun Mar 13 12:55:54 2005 Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck References: <70885444.7A3862DE.0238A7FB@aol.com> Message-ID: <001501c527f5$ea3a7ea0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Don: I suspect that you resurrected much of your posting from your archives, without realizing that it was two years or so out of date. As you doubtless know, 1150 has been Salem's WTTT doing ultra-right-wing talk for (IIRC) something like two years. (I've lost track of when the flip actually took place.) Also Joe's original post mentioned picking up some other 1150 underneath WTTT (or whatever it was at the time Joe heard it) in downtown Boston. Back before the FCC relaxed the rules for AMs' coverage of the COL, WCOP et al required a waiver from the FCC for its inadequate signal downtown. For many years, AMs were required to put 25 mV/m over "the main business district" of the COL. That fuzzy wording was ultimately interpreted to mean the main post office, which for Boston would have been the South Postal Annex near South Station. No way did 1150 meet that criterion. The signal there is at best about 15 mV/m--significantly less than 25 mV/m but more than enough to meet the current 5 mV/m (daytime) requirement. I don't know what 1150's NIF contour is, but I'd be surpriased if it were even as much as 7 mV/m; it's a pretty old station. So if some station could be heard underneath 1150 downtown, my guess is that the interfering station was not operating within the terms of its license. Although Canadian AMs have been moving to FM in droves, there are still several 1150s in eastern Canada--and we all know how lackadaisical they have become about pattern changes in the last decade. Also, back before the 1150 in Nova Scotia or New Brunswick moved to 700 (it's now gone to FM), it would overwhelm the Boston 1150 during the daytime along the coast in Provincetown, although Boston would win the battle a few hundred feet inland from the water's edge. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Joseph Pappalardo" ; Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 8:32 AM Subject: Re: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck > Then it was sold to ARS, and subsequently to Mega, and it has been Spanish for the last several years. > -Don Kelley From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Mar 13 13:26:22 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun Mar 13 13:27:14 2005 Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck In-Reply-To: <70885444.7A3862DE.0238A7FB@aol.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050313132357.0239e938@pop.registeredsite.com> >it was said-- > >I suppose the call letters 'COP had to do with COPley Square?>Did they > ever have a studio there? >Probably WCOP stood for Copley Square - although I had also heard that it >stood for Coppertone. For many years WCOP was owned by Plough, the makers >of Coppertone. The TOH ID used to say "WCOP, Boston...a broadcast service >of Plough, Incorporated!" The station went on the air in 1935 and yes it was in the Copley Sq. Hotel and yes WCOP was a requested call letter. But they were owned by Plough during their top-40 years. I have some old WCOP top-40 surveys from circ 1957-8. Most of the jocks used house names-- like Tom Allen. I think Paul Knight was there too (he also worked at WBZ at one point-- Paul Knight in the All Night.) From elipolo@earthlink.net Sun Mar 13 13:39:58 2005 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Sun Mar 13 13:38:52 2005 Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck Message-ID: > > From: "Joseph Pappalardo" > > To: > Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:22:37 -0500 > Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck > > Right now when I listen to 1150AM in downtown Boston at night, I > can > sometimes hear another station battling it in the background...and > this is in downtown Boston!) > > Was the signal always bad? The 5 KW transmitter is off of Route 2 in Lexington, at least ten miles out from downtown, with a lot of background interference on the channel from other stations at night. When I worked there as Greater Media's oldies WMEX in the mid 80's, the nighttime monitor reception at their Stuart St. studios was very noisy. The station broadcast in AM stereo at the time, but the monitor receiver was switched to mono due to oscillation from interfering stations causing side-to-side "platform motion". There was a lot of 10k heterodyne noise as well. However, it came in like a ton of bricks day and night where I grew up in Newton, about five miles south-southeast of the transmitter. Outside metro-Boston, the directional signal doesn't go very much outside Route 128 southwest, west, or north at night. The pattern at night is southeast over Boston and the South Shore. It can be heard, though weakly, on Cape Cod. > I suppose the call letters 'COP had to do with COPley Square? > > Did they ever have a studio there? The original studios were in the Copley Plaza Hotel. Eli Polonsky From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Mar 13 13:51:20 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun Mar 13 13:52:09 2005 Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050313134521.023c8188@pop.registeredsite.com> Actually, WCOP had a bunch of owners. Joseph Kirby put them on the air in 1935, but then he dropped dead a year later and his wife ran the station till Arde Bulova (of the watch company) and Harold LaFount bought it circa 1937. The two of them got into trouble with the FCC and in 1944, the station got sold again. Cowles Broadcasting owned it for a while but sold it briefly to the late lamented Boston Post newspaper. The Boston went belly up in 1956 and in May of that year, Plough acquired it. I think they owned it till around 1978 when GCC Communications acquired it. I believe that Mega bought it in 1998, and after that, as Dan pointed out, it was purchased by Salem. From revdoug1@verizon.net Sun Mar 13 14:16:36 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Sun Mar 13 14:13:54 2005 Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050313134521.023c8188@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <00c201c52801$2f7e6ca0$6501a8c0@pastor2> Donna: Interesting history - thanks! I never knew the Boston Post (Grozier family, right?) owned 'COP. I remember the Post from when I was a little kid; my parents greatly grieved its loss. I know this question isn't appropriate to this board, but I have no idea where else to ask it: what killed the Post, anyway? Back in the '40s, it had the largest circulation of any paper in Boston. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: ; "Joseph Pappalardo" ; Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 1:51 PM Subject: Re: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck > Actually, WCOP had a bunch of owners. Joseph Kirby put them on the air in > 1935, but then he dropped dead a year later and his wife ran the station > till Arde Bulova (of the watch company) and Harold LaFount bought it circa > 1937. The two of them got into trouble with the FCC and in 1944, the > station got sold again. Cowles Broadcasting owned it for a while but sold > it briefly to the late lamented Boston Post newspaper. The Boston went > belly up in 1956 and in May of that year, Plough acquired it. I think they > owned it till around 1978 when GCC Communications acquired it. I believe > that Mega bought it in 1998, and after that, as Dan pointed out, it was > purchased by Salem. > > From dlh@donnahalper.com Sun Mar 13 14:59:33 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sun Mar 13 15:00:24 2005 Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck In-Reply-To: <00c201c52801$2f7e6ca0$6501a8c0@pastor2> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050313134521.023c8188@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050313145757.023df120@pop.registeredsite.com> At 02:16 PM 3/13/2005 -0500, you wrote: >Donna: Interesting history - thanks! I never knew the Boston Post (Grozier >family, right?) owned 'COP. I remember the Post from when I was a little >kid; my parents greatly grieved its loss. By then, the last Grozier was dead and a guy named John Fox bought it. He was an alcoholic and also very caught up in finding Communists-- a big proponent of McCarthy. He turned the paper into a shell of itself and ultimately drove it to bankruptcy. From lawyer@attorneyross.com Mon Mar 14 00:04:16 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon Mar 14 00:04:29 2005 Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck In-Reply-To: <006e01c5279d$727758a0$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <4234D500.3246.6EEE83@localhost> On 13 Mar 2005 at 2:22, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > I caught the aircheck of Pat Patterson (aka, "Fat Pat" and "Mr's > Patterson's oldest and heaviest child"!) on WCOP in 1961 on the > Northeast Airchecks web site: > > http://northeastairchecks.com/ > > Just curious....what years would have been WCOP's most sucessful > years. I remember WCOP in 1957 to the summer of 1962, when it was a Top 40 station. Since I lived in Bedford at the time, its signal was very strong on my radio, and it was the station most of us listened to, until it dropped the Top 40 format in the summer of 1962. > I recall that in the late 70's 1150AM went thru numerous format > changes...(Anyone remember WACQ?) I remember that. Back to the Top 40 format one more time. > Was the signal always bad? I don't know about downtown Boston, but in the mid-1980s, when they were WMEX, I found that I couldn't hear them at all in the Framingham area. > I was suprised not to hear any network newcasts on that 1961 aircheck. > I would have thought that a station like WCOP would have been > dependent on a network. In 1961, network radio was dying and provided mainly news. A teenage Top 40 station doesn't really need anything more than five minutes of news per hour. WCOP had its newscast five minutes before the hour, with news announcers who delivered the news in a shouting, Walter Winchell style. Donna once told me that WCOP was an ABC affiliate at some point in the early 50s. I remember that they were an NBC affiliate for awhile in the 1970s. > HAs WCOP always been thought of as an "also ran"? Did the public > always think of this station as a 'second rate' effort? I don't know about anywhere else, but at Bedford High, we never thought of it as a "second rate effort." In fact, the WCOP DJs were the ones we most wanted at our record hops. > With all that, I was suprised how good this aircheck was! Pretty > entertaining for 1961! I can't imagine that WNAC was doing anything > much better in 1961. What was NAC, HDH and BZ Doing in '61?) WNAC was playing Beautiful Music, with Yankee Network News on the hour. WHDH was doing middle-of-the-road, with news on the half hour, and carried Red Sox baseball. WBZ was doing pop music, including rock & roll, but with a somewhat more adult format that WCOP or WMEX, a lot of news around the dinner hour, and call-in talk later. When WCOP changed formats in 1962, we were upset because there was no top-40 programming to listen to after 10:00 on a local station. WBZ and WMEX both had talk shows at that hour. Some people listened to WPTR or WKBW on AM. I had an FM radio and listened to WKBR in Manchester. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Mon Mar 14 00:04:16 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon Mar 14 00:04:32 2005 Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck In-Reply-To: <70885444.7A3862DE.0238A7FB@aol.com> Message-ID: <4234D500.241.6EEEDD@localhost> On 13 Mar 2005 at 8:32, DonKelley@aol.com wrote: > WCOP, at least in the last 50 years, didn't have any particularly > successful years. ?WCOP was a Top 40 station in the late 50's, but was > forced to switch to Country when WBZ went Top 40. Not quite. WBZ was Top 40 for some time in the late 50s and early 60s. Why WCOP switched from Top 40, I don't know, but it wasn't because WBZ had "just" become Top 40. WCOP didn't become Country at that time, either. They switched to a middle-of-the-road format for awhile and became country some time later. > ?It hung around but did little in the way of numbers until about > 1975 when, as Joe Pappalardo notes, it became WACQ (sor tof a Hot > AC before it's time) for a short period. ? WACQ turned into Sunny, > featuring Frank Sinatra, Dionne Warwick, Barbra Streisand, etc. > Then it was WHUE, Beautiful Music. ? Also not quite. WACQ became WHUE (and the former WCOP-FM, which was WTTK at that time, became WHUE-FM). At some point, WHUE (AM) became WSNY ("sunny") for a short time and then went back to being WHUE. It was beautiful music all that time, sometimes simulcast with FM and sometimes separate. At one point, keeping the WHUE call letters, they tried an all-news format, but that didn't last more than a few months, then they went back to the beautiful music format. > I think it was also WCOZ for a day or two in the early 80's. I believe for about a week, before it was sold to Greater Media. > ?Around 1994 the station became WNFT (Nifty 1150), carrying KidStar > - an early verison of the Radio Disney-type format. ?The KidStar > network went under. Back to foreign language. ?In 1996 it became > WROR. ?This wa sa way for Greater Media to "warehouse" > those calls in poreparation for the debut of the new 105.7 WROR later > that year. Again, not quite. It became WROR for a week or two just before it became WNFT. I don't remember the year. > ?I know that by the mid-to-late 60's WCOP was an NBC > affiliate. I'm not sure when they first became an NBC affiliate, but it was after the changeover in 1962 and lasted into the 1970s. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Mon Mar 14 00:04:16 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon Mar 14 00:04:35 2005 Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050313145757.023df120@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <00c201c52801$2f7e6ca0$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <4234D500.4812.6EEF88@localhost> On 13 Mar 2005 at 14:59, Donna Halper wrote: > By then, the last Grozier was dead and a guy named John Fox bought it. > He was an alcoholic and also very caught up in finding Communists-- a > big proponent of McCarthy. He turned the paper into a shell of itself > and ultimately drove it to bankruptcy. That would explain it. At some point, around 1953 I think, my mother stopped buying the Post (much to my dismay because I liked the comics) for awhile because it had "become a Republican paper." I didn't understand that, but I think my father must have liked the Post because we started getting it again (along with some other paper that my mother liked, I think) until we moved to Albany for a few years. For awhile, my aunt was saving the Sunday Post comic section for the me and sending them to me in Albany every so often. The Post ceased publication while we were in Albany. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Mon Mar 14 00:04:16 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon Mar 14 00:04:47 2005 Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050313132357.0239e938@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <70885444.7A3862DE.0238A7FB@aol.com> Message-ID: <4234D500.1449.6EEF2F@localhost> On 13 Mar 2005 at 13:26, Donna Halper wrote: > The station went on the air in 1935 and yes it was in the Copley Sq. > Hotel and yes WCOP was a requested call letter. But they were owned > by Plough during their top-40 years. I have some old WCOP top-40 > surveys from circ 1957-8. Most of the jocks used house names-- like > Tom Allen. I think Paul Knight was there too (he also worked at WBZ > at one point-- Paul Knight in the All Night.) I remember Paul Knight on WCOP. I think he lived in Bedford. I know we got him for the record hop that the Student Council (at my instigation) ran to benefit WGBH after the fire destroyed their Cambridge studios. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From hykker@grolen.com Mon Mar 14 07:29:15 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Mon Mar 14 07:28:59 2005 Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck In-Reply-To: <4234D500.1449.6EEF2F@localhost> References: <70885444.7A3862DE.0238A7FB@aol.com> <4234D500.1449.6EEF2F@localhost> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050314072720.01b79f50@pop3.grolen.com> At 12:04 AM 3/14/2005, A. Joseph Ross wrote: >I remember Paul Knight on WCOP. I think he lived in Bedford. I know we >got him for the >record hop that the Student Council (at my instigation) ran to benefit >WGBH after the fire >destroyed their Cambridge studios. Weren't WGBH's studios in the Museum of Science at some point in the early-ish 60s? I somehow recall going there while in junior high and seeing them there. From lawyer@attorneyross.com Mon Mar 14 17:09:45 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Mon Mar 14 17:10:48 2005 Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050314072720.01b79f50@pop3.grolen.com> References: <4234D500.1449.6EEF2F@localhost> Message-ID: <4235C559.7955.B90EFF@localhost> On 14 Mar 2005 SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Weren't WGBH's studios in the Museum of Science at some point in the > early-ish 60s? I somehow recall going there while in junior high and > seeing them there. They had studios on Massachusetts Avenue in Cambridge, approximately on the present site of the MIT Student Center. After those studios were destroyed by fire, they used space at Symphony Hall and in the Museum of Science for a time until their present building was opened. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From hykker@grolen.com Mon Mar 14 19:44:57 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Mon Mar 14 22:28:55 2005 Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck In-Reply-To: <4235C559.7955.B90EFF@localhost> References: <4234D500.1449.6EEF2F@localhost> <4235C559.7955.B90EFF@localhost> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050314194247.01b4a268@pop3.grolen.com> A. Joseph Ross wrote: >They had studios on Massachusetts Avenue in Cambridge, approximately on >the present >site of the MIT Student Center. After those studios were destroyed by >fire, they used space >at Symphony Hall and in the Museum of Science for a time until their >present building was >opened. Didn't WCAS also have studios on Mass. Ave. in Cambridge that were also destroyed by fire? Somehow recall that being around '74 or so. From dlh@donnahalper.com Mon Mar 14 22:45:57 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Mon Mar 14 22:46:49 2005 Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050314194247.01b4a268@pop3.grolen.com> References: <4235C559.7955.B90EFF@localhost> <4234D500.1449.6EEF2F@localhost> <4235C559.7955.B90EFF@localhost> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050314224524.0216bbe8@pop.registeredsite.com> >Steve wrote-- > >Didn't WCAS also have studios on Mass. Ave. in Cambridge that were also >destroyed by fire? Somehow recall that being around '74 or so. I did my show from those studios-- right next to a Dunkin Donuts in Central Square, and yes it was on Mass Ave. From lawyer@attorneyross.com Tue Mar 15 00:31:57 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue Mar 15 00:32:12 2005 Subject: WCOP Message-ID: <42362CFD.5892.88E12C@localhost> Well, I listened to that 1961 aircheck with Pat Patterson (I remember that he used to call himself "Fat Pat Patterson." I was amazed at how bad it sounded. It seemed like wall-to- wall commercials, with an occasional record played in between. To think I used to like listening to that station! But they couldn't have been a second-rate station if they had that many commercials! -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Tue Mar 15 00:31:57 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue Mar 15 00:32:17 2005 Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050314194247.01b4a268@pop3.grolen.com> References: <4235C559.7955.B90EFF@localhost> Message-ID: <42362CFD.10159.88E21B@localhost> On 14 Mar 2005 at 19:44, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Didn't WCAS also have studios on Mass. Ave. in Cambridge that were > also destroyed by fire? Somehow recall that being around '74 or so. They had studios in Central Square, at least when they first started in the late 60s. I don't know anything about a fire. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Tue Mar 15 01:22:16 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Tue Mar 15 01:24:00 2005 Subject: Fw: WCOP Message-ID: <007701c52927$818704e0$1404fea9@xyz> From: "A. Joseph Ross" > Well, I listened to that 1961 aircheck with Pat Patterson (I remember that he used to call > himself "Fat Pat Patterson." And he would sometimes refer to himself as, "Mrs. Patterson's oldest and heaviest child!" From rickkelly@gmail.com Tue Mar 15 07:04:35 2005 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Tue Mar 15 07:04:44 2005 Subject: WCOP In-Reply-To: <42362CFD.5892.88E12C@localhost> References: <42362CFD.5892.88E12C@localhost> Message-ID: <521b7fd105031504043a2240e7@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:31:57 -0500, A. Joseph Ross wrote: > Well, I listened to that 1961 aircheck with Pat Patterson (I remember that he used to call > himself "Fat Pat Patterson." I was amazed at how bad it sounded. It seemed like wall-to- > wall commercials, with an occasional record played in between. To think I used to like > listening to that station! I think this selection was from morning drive, when sometimes there are more spots and news teasers. I liked the spots... Camel Cigaettes and Mohawk Airlines! -- -RK From revdoug1@verizon.net Tue Mar 15 08:58:18 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Tue Mar 15 08:56:34 2005 Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck References: <4235C559.7955.B90EFF@localhost> <42362CFD.10159.88E21B@localhost> Message-ID: <007901c52967$0b108710$6501a8c0@pastor2> Question about WCAS: In the late '60s, When Kaiser/Globe bought Channel 56 (the old WTAO-TV) and put it back on the air as WKBG, were WTAO-AM (later WCAS) and WXHR-FM (later WJIB) originally part of the deal? I can't remember. Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "SteveOrdinetz" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 12:31 AM Subject: Re: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck > On 14 Mar 2005 at 19:44, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > > > Didn't WCAS also have studios on Mass. Ave. in Cambridge that were > > also destroyed by fire? Somehow recall that being around '74 or so. > > They had studios in Central Square, at least when they first started in the late 60s. I don't > know anything about a fire. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > > From lawyer@attorneyross.com Tue Mar 15 14:31:55 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue Mar 15 14:33:00 2005 Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck In-Reply-To: <007901c52967$0b108710$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <4236F1DB.28049.36903A@localhost> On 15 Mar 2005 Doug Drown wrote: > Question about WCAS: In the late '60s, When Kaiser/Globe bought > Channel 56 (the old WTAO-TV) and put it back on the air as WKBG, were > WTAO-AM (later WCAS) and WXHR-FM (later WJIB) originally part of the > deal? I can't remember. Kaiser/Globe bought all three stations and changed their call letters and identities, bringing Channel 56 back on as WKBG (though the earliest ads in the newspapers said "WXHR- TV"), changing 740 (at that time WXHR (AM)) to WCAS, and 96.9 (WXHR-FM) to WJIB. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From revdoug1@verizon.net Tue Mar 15 15:58:53 2005 From: revdoug1@verizon.net (Doug Drown) Date: Tue Mar 15 15:56:04 2005 Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck References: <4236F1DB.28049.36903A@localhost> Message-ID: <00b701c529a1$cc656e00$6501a8c0@pastor2> I can understand the purchase of WXHR-FM and WTAO-TV, but I wonder why the Globe, apparently trying to create a major broadcasting presence in town, would have wanted a 250-watt AM daytimer . . . unless they might have had a plan to make it into a 50,000-watt daytimer(?). Would that have been possible, with WACE operating on 730 out of Chicopee and WHEB on 750 in Portsmouth? Would've had to have an awfully tight directional signal. Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: "SteveOrdinetz" ; "Doug Drown" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: Re: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck > On 15 Mar 2005 Doug Drown wrote: > > > Question about WCAS: In the late '60s, When Kaiser/Globe bought > > Channel 56 (the old WTAO-TV) and put it back on the air as WKBG, were > > WTAO-AM (later WCAS) and WXHR-FM (later WJIB) originally part of the > > deal? I can't remember. > > Kaiser/Globe bought all three stations and changed their call letters and identities, bringing > Channel 56 back on as WKBG (though the earliest ads in the newspapers said "WXHR- > TV"), changing 740 (at that time WXHR (AM)) to WCAS, and 96.9 (WXHR-FM) to WJIB. > > -- > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > > From sid.whitaker@unh.edu Tue Mar 15 16:17:41 2005 From: sid.whitaker@unh.edu (Sid Whitaker) Date: Tue Mar 15 16:17:47 2005 Subject: Globe radio ownership (was Re: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck) In-Reply-To: <00b701c529a1$cc656e00$6501a8c0@pastor2> References: <4236F1DB.28049.36903A@localhost> <00b701c529a1$cc656e00$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <1110921461.423750f50fe62@webmail.unh.edu> More recently (mid 80s) the Globe owned WHYN Springfield (under the Affiliated Publications banner.) I think the WHYN newsroom still had to pay for its subscription to the Globe, however. I'm not sure if it was AP that sold to Clear Channel, or if WHYN had another owner in between. Sid Quoting Doug Drown : > I can understand the purchase of WXHR-FM and WTAO-TV, but I wonder why the > Globe, apparently trying to create a major broadcasting presence in town, > would have wanted a 250-watt AM daytimer . . . unless they might have had a > plan to make it into a 50,000-watt daytimer(?). Would that have been > possible, with WACE operating on 730 out of Chicopee and WHEB on 750 in > Portsmouth? Would've had to have an awfully tight directional signal. > > Doug \ From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Mar 15 16:31:09 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue Mar 15 16:31:11 2005 Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck References: <4236F1DB.28049.36903A@localhost> <00b701c529a1$cc656e00$6501a8c0@pastor2> Message-ID: <004a01c529a6$53965c00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I'm sure Kaiser-Globe took the little AM because Mr Lyman wanted out of station ownership and offered the three properties on an all-or-nothing basis. It was probably a case of don't take the AM; no sale. It was probably also a case of keeping the AM on the air being cheaper, when all costs were considered, than trying to sell it. Ultimately, though, they DID sell it, to Wickus Island Broadcasting, right? And if you recall, that involved quite a fracas. This is how I remember it; somebody should check my "facts," because they may be fiction! I believe the first buyer who stepped to the plate was a minister who wanted to program Black gospel music. However, the locals jumped in and insisted on a buyer who would provide programming oriented to the local community, and they got the FCC to reject the application for transfer of control. Ultimately the protesters formed their own company, Wickus, which bought the station. But when Wickus went belly up several years later, a minister (same one who tried to buy the station earlier? don't know) DID buy it and DID program Black gospel. Bob Bittner bought the station when the minister went bankrupt. I don't know how much of this story Bob knows, because it all happened before he even bid on the station in bankruptcy court. But maybe Bob or Donna (who worked at WCAS) or Scott can provide an accurate history. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Drown" To: "A. Joseph Ross" ; "SteveOrdinetz" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 3:58 PM Subject: Re: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck > I can understand the purchase of WXHR-FM and WTAO-TV, but I wonder why the > Globe, apparently trying to create a major broadcasting presence in town, > would have wanted a 250-watt AM daytimer . . . unless they might have had a > plan to make it into a 50,000-watt daytimer(?). Would that have been > possible, with WACE operating on 730 out of Chicopee and WHEB on 750 in > Portsmouth? Would've had to have an awfully tight directional signal. > > Doug > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > To: "SteveOrdinetz" ; "Doug Drown" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 2:31 PM > Subject: Re: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck > > > > On 15 Mar 2005 Doug Drown wrote: > > > > > Question about WCAS: In the late '60s, When Kaiser/Globe bought > > > Channel 56 (the old WTAO-TV) and put it back on the air as WKBG, were > > > WTAO-AM (later WCAS) and WXHR-FM (later WJIB) originally part of the > > > deal? I can't remember. > > > > Kaiser/Globe bought all three stations and changed their call letters and > identities, bringing > > Channel 56 back on as WKBG (though the earliest ads in the newspapers said > "WXHR- > > TV"), changing 740 (at that time WXHR (AM)) to WCAS, and 96.9 (WXHR-FM) to > WJIB. > > > > -- > > A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 > > 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com > > Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com > > > > > > > > > From mlaurence@mindspring.com Tue Mar 15 17:42:52 2005 From: mlaurence@mindspring.com (Mark Laurence) Date: Tue Mar 15 17:42:55 2005 Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck Message-ID: <30983146.1110926572193.JavaMail.root@wamui05.slb.atl.earthlink.net> I don't know too many specifics, but I was working for a station owned by Mel Stone during part of this time (WGUY, Bangor, Stone Communications) and he also owned WCAS, either fully or partially. He was in the process of getting out of it and happy to be done with the headaches. This was in the mid '70's. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Dan Strassberg Sent: Mar 15, 2005 4:31 PM To: Doug Drown , Boston Radio Interest Subject: Re: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck I'm sure Kaiser-Globe took the little AM because Mr Lyman wanted out of station ownership and offered the three properties on an all-or-nothing basis. It was probably a case of don't take the AM; no sale. It was probably also a case of keeping the AM on the air being cheaper, when all costs were considered, than trying to sell it. Ultimately, though, they DID sell it, to Wickus Island Broadcasting, right? And if you recall, that involved quite a fracas. This is how I remember it; somebody should check my "facts," because they may be fiction! From paulcurrier@adelphia.net Tue Mar 15 17:45:26 2005 From: paulcurrier@adelphia.net (Paul B. Currier) Date: Tue Mar 15 17:45:31 2005 Subject: WCOP References: <007701c52927$818704e0$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <000b01c529b0$ae5d2510$98803418@DG07P241> I think "Big Daddy" Bob Wilson cut his teeth on 'COP prior to becoming the Voice of the Bruins for so many years. He may have had a stop of two in between - KMOX perhaps? I thought that 'COP was a primary station in their heyday - 50s 60s?? I recall something about "Repetition Builds Reputation" and associate it with 'COP. They would play the really hot numbers (Hound Dog - Elvis for example) very often - occasionally in the same hour. Ah, memories........ Paul Sandwich CC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Pappalardo" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 1:22 AM Subject: Fw: WCOP > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > > > Well, I listened to that 1961 aircheck with Pat Patterson (I remember that > he used to call > > himself "Fat Pat Patterson." > > And he would sometimes refer to himself as, "Mrs. Patterson's oldest and > heaviest child!" > > From lawyer@attorneyross.com Tue Mar 15 18:23:21 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue Mar 15 18:24:28 2005 Subject: WCAS (was WCOP circa 1961 aircheck) In-Reply-To: <004a01c529a6$53965c00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <42372819.1351.10A7B0C@localhost> On 15 Mar 2005 Dan Strassberg wrote: > I believe the first buyer who stepped to the plate was a minister who > wanted to program Black gospel music. However, the locals jumped in > and insisted on a buyer who would provide programming oriented to the > local community, and they got the FCC to reject the application for > transfer of control. Ultimately the protesters formed their own > company, Wickus, which bought the station. But when Wickus went belly > up several years later, a minister (same one who tried to buy the > station earlier? don't know) DID buy it and DID program Black gospel. > Bob Bittner bought the station when the minister went bankrupt. Actually, the way I heard it, it was someone else who went bankrupt, but the minister was allowed to run the station under the auspices of the bankruptcy trustee. The minister tried to buy the station and bid on it, but never came up with the money. When the bankruptcy court ran out of patience with him, Bob got it. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From w1mex@lycos.com Tue Mar 15 19:16:54 2005 From: w1mex@lycos.com (KEVIN GOODWIN) Date: Tue Mar 15 19:17:03 2005 Subject: ESPN Message-ID: <20050316001654.BD769E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> With ESPN sports radio format coming to WAMG and WLLH 890 and 1400 according to the Boston Globe article, both 890 and 1400 will carry both MLB and NFL games. Does anybody list happen to know whether ESPN radio carries NBA games and if and when there is a NHL season whether ESPN radio carries NHL games as well? To respond to an earlier post about WEEI carrying ESPN MLB games. I don't believe that WEEI can do that. My assumption is that if WEEI takes any of ESPN's product don't they have to take the sports format as well? My assumption is with ESPN it may be an all or nothing deal. Meaning that you take all of their product not just pick and choose. Besides WEEI can not carry ESPN MLB games because of their with the Red Sox. Also, according to the Globe article it sounded like WEEI wanted to break ties with ESPN and go FOX Sports Radio instead seeing that they are already an alfiliate of theirs. Kevin Goodwin -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From scott@fybush.com Tue Mar 15 19:21:49 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue Mar 15 19:21:54 2005 Subject: ESPN In-Reply-To: <20050316001654.BD769E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050316001654.BD769E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20050315192043.048c68a8@gwind.pair.com> At 07:16 PM 3/15/2005, KEVIN GOODWIN wrote: >With ESPN sports radio format coming to WAMG and WLLH 890 and 1400 >according to the Boston Globe article, both 890 and 1400 will carry both >MLB and NFL games. Does anybody list happen to know whether ESPN radio >carries NBA games and if and when there is a NHL season whether ESPN radio >carries NHL games as well? > >To respond to an earlier post about WEEI carrying ESPN MLB games. I don't >believe that WEEI can do that. My assumption is that if WEEI takes any of >ESPN's product don't they have to take the sports format as well? My >assumption is with ESPN it may be an all or nothing deal. Meaning that you >take all of their product not just pick and choose. Besides WEEI can not >carry ESPN MLB games because of their with the Red Sox. Also, according to >the Globe article it sounded like WEEI wanted to break ties with ESPN and >go FOX Sports Radio instead seeing that they are already an alfiliate of >theirs. ABC will sell the ESPN MLB package without the full-time format under some circumstances, but I'd think that if they have a full-time ESPN Radio affiliate in a market (as 890/1400 will apparently be), that that station would get first dibs on the MLB. Hasn't WEEI already had some of the ESPN MLB games? s From hykker@grolen.com Tue Mar 15 19:47:28 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue Mar 15 19:47:13 2005 Subject: WCOP circa 1961 aircheck In-Reply-To: <004a01c529a6$53965c00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <4236F1DB.28049.36903A@localhost> <00b701c529a1$cc656e00$6501a8c0@pastor2> <004a01c529a6$53965c00$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050315194651.01adf888@pop3.grolen.com> Dan Strassberg wrote: >I don't know how much of this story Bob knows, because it all happened >before he even bid on the station in bankruptcy court. But maybe Bob or >Donna (who worked at WCAS) or Scott can provide an accurate history. There's a history of WCAS here... http://www.740wcas.com/ From dan.strassberg@att.net Tue Mar 15 20:06:16 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Tue Mar 15 20:06:22 2005 Subject: ESPN References: <20050316001654.BD769E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> <6.0.1.1.0.20050315192043.048c68a8@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <002201c529c4$60a0b1c0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Yes, WEEI did carry SOME MLB games and clearly did not take the whole package. However, has WEPN made ANY showing against WFAN in New York? I had heard that WEPN's New York numbers were in the same, umm, league as WWZN's Boston numbers. If so, what sort of deal is ESPN giving to major-market stations, such as 890, to take the whole package? Is ESPN Radio getting desperate? Maybe the execs are thinking that, with new managment at the parent company, losers can't have much time left and they are trying to solve the problem by throwing money at it. Without some sort of reasonable assurance that he could get a decent return on his investment, would Sutton be shelling out $9 million for 890, which has probably never made a cent in its entire history (OK, call it $8,5 million and assign a value of $500k to WLLH.), or for that matter, would he do it for WWZN, which hasn't made a cent in probably two decades? Was Sutton maybe in play to buy WWZN when SNR's problem with "billing irregularities" put the sale of WWZN, WSNR, and KMPC on hold for "nine months"? Maybe Sutton had already made a deal with ESPN on the assumption that he was going to buy WWZN, and when that fell through, he took the only other station in the market that he could find, afford, and get his hands on quickly. The last requirement rules out WBIX, which is likely to be in limbo longer than WWZN. I guess you can make a case that 890 is a better deal than 1510, but you can also make the opposite case, given that 1510 has been doing sports for quite a few years--however paltry the numbers. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fybush" To: "KEVIN GOODWIN" ; Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 7:21 PM Subject: Re: ESPN > At 07:16 PM 3/15/2005, KEVIN GOODWIN wrote: > >With ESPN sports radio format coming to WAMG and WLLH 890 and 1400 > >according to the Boston Globe article, both 890 and 1400 will carry both > >MLB and NFL games. Does anybody list happen to know whether ESPN radio > >carries NBA games and if and when there is a NHL season whether ESPN radio > >carries NHL games as well? > > > >To respond to an earlier post about WEEI carrying ESPN MLB games. I don't > >believe that WEEI can do that. My assumption is that if WEEI takes any of > >ESPN's product don't they have to take the sports format as well? My > >assumption is with ESPN it may be an all or nothing deal. Meaning that you > >take all of their product not just pick and choose. Besides WEEI can not > >carry ESPN MLB games because of their with the Red Sox. Also, according to > >the Globe article it sounded like WEEI wanted to break ties with ESPN and > >go FOX Sports Radio instead seeing that they are already an alfiliate of > >theirs. > > ABC will sell the ESPN MLB package without the full-time format under some > circumstances, but I'd think that if they have a full-time ESPN Radio > affiliate in a market (as 890/1400 will apparently be), that that station > would get first dibs on the MLB. > > Hasn't WEEI already had some of the ESPN MLB games? > > s > From stephanie@gordsven.com Tue Mar 15 20:22:53 2005 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Tue Mar 15 21:11:04 2005 Subject: ESPN In-Reply-To: <002201c529c4$60a0b1c0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <20050316001654.BD769E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> <6.0.1.1.0.20050315192043.048c68a8@gwind.pair.com> <002201c529c4$60a0b1c0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, Dan Strassberg wrote: > Yes, WEEI did carry SOME MLB games and clearly did not take the whole > package. However, has WEPN made ANY showing against WFAN in New York? I had > heard that WEPN's New York numbers were in the same, umm, league as WWZN's > Boston numbers. If so, what sort of deal is ESPN giving to major-market WEPN-1050 (ESPN New York) is a Disney/ABC o&o. Also the primary purpose of the station's existence is to give the network a New York outlet. That makes it a selling point to other affiliates around the country (and also to ad agencies). Sure some of the network product has been replaced by some local content (why they do that, I have no clue - considering this is supposed to be a network clearinghouse. I guess they do run the national ads though). -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY From scott@fybush.com Tue Mar 15 21:13:03 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue Mar 15 21:13:12 2005 Subject: ESPN In-Reply-To: <002201c529c4$60a0b1c0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <20050316001654.BD769E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> <6.0.1.1.0.20050315192043.048c68a8@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050315210532.03279ab0@gwind.pair.com> "Sutton" isn't a person, it's an investment house. (Well, there was probably a Sutton involved at some point...) The key player in all this is a woman named Jessamy Tang, who's the "J" in "J-Sports." She's the one who'll be running the station and affiliating it, apparently, with ESPN. WallerSutton is just loaning her the money to do it, and if it doesn't work, they'll hold the paper on the licenses and be able to reclaim them down the road. $9 million is essentially "bare stick value" for those two licenses anyway, so the downside for WallerSutton is relatively minimal. I don't know what Tang's finances are like, but she comes from a sports-marketing background (including an MBA from MIT), so I suspect that if nothing else, she created a nifty-looking business plan for the whole thing. I wouldn't draw very many connections, if at all, between the fate of an ABC Radio Stations o&o like WEPN and the decisions made by ABC Radio Networks about what sort of affiliation deal to offer a station in a non-ABC market (yes, they own WMKI, but...) to carry one of the many, many syndicated formats they offer. And I'm quite certain that nobody at the corporate level in Disney is astute enough to draw the connection. They have much, much bigger problems right now, which could - and here I'm being very speculative - even result in the entire radio unit being spun off and potentially split, with the stations going one way and the networks going another. At 08:06 PM 3/15/2005 -0500, Dan Strassberg wrote: >Yes, WEEI did carry SOME MLB games and clearly did not take the whole >package. However, has WEPN made ANY showing against WFAN in New York? I had >heard that WEPN's New York numbers were in the same, umm, league as WWZN's >Boston numbers. If so, what sort of deal is ESPN giving to major-market >stations, such as 890, to take the whole package? Is ESPN Radio getting >desperate? Maybe the execs are thinking that, with new managment at the >parent company, losers can't have much time left and they are trying to >solve the problem by throwing money at it. Without some sort of reasonable >assurance that he could get a decent return on his investment, would Sutton >be shelling out $9 million for 890, which has probably never made a cent in >its entire history (OK, call it $8,5 million and assign a value of $500k to >WLLH.), or for that matter, would he do it for WWZN, which hasn't made a >cent in probably two decades? Was Sutton maybe in play to buy WWZN when >SNR's problem with "billing irregularities" put the sale of WWZN, WSNR, and >KMPC on hold for "nine months"? Maybe Sutton had already made a deal with >ESPN on the assumption that he was going to buy WWZN, and when that fell >through, he took the only other station in the market that he could find, >afford, and get his hands on quickly. The last requirement rules out WBIX, >which is likely to be in limbo longer than WWZN. I guess you can make a case >that 890 is a better deal than 1510, but you can also make the opposite >case, given that 1510 has been doing sports for quite a few years--however >paltry the numbers. > >-- >Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net >eFax 707-215-6367 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Scott Fybush" >To: "KEVIN GOODWIN" ; >Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 7:21 PM >Subject: Re: ESPN > > > > At 07:16 PM 3/15/2005, KEVIN GOODWIN wrote: > > >With ESPN sports radio format coming to WAMG and WLLH 890 and 1400 > > >according to the Boston Globe article, both 890 and 1400 will carry both > > >MLB and NFL games. Does anybody list happen to know whether ESPN radio > > >carries NBA games and if and when there is a NHL season whether ESPN >radio > > >carries NHL games as well? > > > > > >To respond to an earlier post about WEEI carrying ESPN MLB games. I don't > > >believe that WEEI can do that. My assumption is that if WEEI takes any of > > >ESPN's product don't they have to take the sports format as well? My > > >assumption is with ESPN it may be an all or nothing deal. Meaning that >you > > >take all of their product not just pick and choose. Besides WEEI can not > > >carry ESPN MLB games because of their with the Red Sox. Also, according >to > > >the Globe article it sounded like WEEI wanted to break ties with ESPN and > > >go FOX Sports Radio instead seeing that they are already an alfiliate of > > >theirs. > > > > ABC will sell the ESPN MLB package without the full-time format under some > > circumstances, but I'd think that if they have a full-time ESPN Radio > > affiliate in a market (as 890/1400 will apparently be), that that station > > would get first dibs on the MLB. > > > > Hasn't WEEI already had some of the ESPN MLB games? > > > > s > > From francini@mac.com Tue Mar 15 21:27:04 2005 From: francini@mac.com (John J. Francini) Date: Tue Mar 15 21:27:14 2005 Subject: ESPN In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.0.20050315192043.048c68a8@gwind.pair.com> References: <20050316001654.BD769E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> <6.0.1.1.0.20050315192043.048c68a8@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: WEEI has carried the Sunday night ESPN MLB games for the past few years. The only time the ESPN feed wasn't carried on Sunday was when the Red Sox were one of the contestants, in which case Joe and Jerry would do the game. My presumption is that WEEI will use Fox the way they've used ESPN in the past: as weekend evening and overnight filler. To that end, I must say that I think ESPN has better hosts than Fox on the weekend -- they're more conversational and less full of themselves. At least up here in Nashua we've got the all-ESPN-all-the-time AM 900 to switch to when 'EEI isn't doing local sports talk... john At 19:21 -0500 3/15/05, Scott Fybush wrote: >At 07:16 PM 3/15/2005, KEVIN GOODWIN wrote: >>With ESPN sports radio format coming to WAMG and WLLH 890 and 1400 >>according to the Boston Globe article, both 890 and 1400 will carry >>both MLB and NFL games. Does anybody list happen to know whether >>ESPN radio carries NBA games and if and when there is a NHL season >>whether ESPN radio carries NHL games as well? >> >>To respond to an earlier post about WEEI carrying ESPN MLB games. I >>don't believe that WEEI can do that. My assumption is that if WEEI >>takes any of ESPN's product don't they have to take the sports >>format as well? My assumption is with ESPN it may be an all or >>nothing deal. Meaning that you take all of their product not just >>pick and choose. Besides WEEI can not carry ESPN MLB games because >>of their with the Red Sox. Also, according to the Globe article it >>sounded like WEEI wanted to break ties with ESPN and go FOX Sports >>Radio instead seeing that they are already an alfiliate of theirs. > >ABC will sell the ESPN MLB package without the full-time format >under some circumstances, but I'd think that if they have a >full-time ESPN Radio affiliate in a market (as 890/1400 will >apparently be), that that station would get first dibs on the MLB. > >Hasn't WEEI already had some of the ESPN MLB games? > >s -- ---- John Francini +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | "I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is called a disgrace; | | that two are called a law firm; and that three or more become a Congress.| | And by God I have had _this_ Congress!" | | -- John Adams | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ssmyth@psu.edu Tue Mar 15 21:27:21 2005 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Tue Mar 15 21:27:37 2005 Subject: ESPN Message-ID: <200503160227.VAA00099@webmail7.cac.psu.edu> On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:22:53, Stephanie Weil wrote: > Sure some of the network product has been replaced by some local content > (why they do that, I have no clue - considering this is supposed to be a > network clearinghouse. I guess they do run the national ads though). You need to have some local content in a market like New York to get people listening (and to have a shred of relevancy). Tang was a long-time ESPN corporate suit; she was GM at the ESPN affiliate in Pittsburgh for a number of years. To say this deal doesn't have ESPN's finger prints on it (even if it's not directly investing) would be foolish. ESPN cares first and foremost about exposure, and getting 24-hour exposure of the ESPN brand in the Boston market is a plus for them. Given that, I wonder if ESPN 1440 could potentially become the new old home of the Spinners in 2006, once the deal goes through. From gary@garysicecream.com Tue Mar 15 21:38:07 2005 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Tue Mar 15 21:38:24 2005 Subject: ESPN In-Reply-To: <200503160227.VAA00099@webmail7.cac.psu.edu> Message-ID: <200503160238.j2G2cLaZ005531@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Could be the home of the Spinners in 2005 - rumor has it that WUML is backing out of the deal! -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Sean Smyth Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:27 PM To: Stephanie Weil Cc: Dan Strassberg; bri@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: ESPN On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:22:53, Stephanie Weil wrote: > Sure some of the network product has been replaced by some local > content (why they do that, I have no clue - considering this is > supposed to be a network clearinghouse. I guess they do run the national ads though). You need to have some local content in a market like New York to get people listening (and to have a shred of relevancy). Tang was a long-time ESPN corporate suit; she was GM at the ESPN affiliate in Pittsburgh for a number of years. To say this deal doesn't have ESPN's finger prints on it (even if it's not directly investing) would be foolish. ESPN cares first and foremost about exposure, and getting 24-hour exposure of the ESPN brand in the Boston market is a plus for them. Given that, I wonder if ESPN 1440 could potentially become the new old home of the Spinners in 2006, once the deal goes through. From elipolo@earthlink.net Tue Mar 15 22:42:59 2005 From: elipolo@earthlink.net (Eli Polonsky) Date: Tue Mar 15 22:25:26 2005 Subject: True radio geek dream In-Reply-To: <521b7fd1050311123211590838@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 3/11/05 3:32 PM, "Rick Kelly" wrote: > My one recurring nightmare is that I am in the studio, on the air, and > no matter what do... throwing switches, pushing buttons, twisting > pots, I can't get anything on the air. I wake up in a cold sweat. I > haven't been on the air in 10 years, and still have this dream several > times a year. Mine is that everything in the studio, on the console, CD players, everything... becomes intermittent, and only works when it feels like it, in no predictable pattern. Eli Polonsky From scott@fybush.com Tue Mar 15 22:40:27 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue Mar 15 22:40:32 2005 Subject: True radio geek dream In-Reply-To: References: <521b7fd1050311123211590838@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20050315223843.048dc6e0@gwind.pair.com> >On 3/11/05 3:32 PM, "Rick Kelly" wrote: > > > My one recurring nightmare is that I am in the studio, on the air, and > > no matter what do... throwing switches, pushing buttons, twisting > > pots, I can't get anything on the air. I wake up in a cold sweat. I > > haven't been on the air in 10 years, and still have this dream several > > times a year. > >Mine is that everything in the studio, on the console, CD players, >everything... becomes intermittent, and only works when it feels >like it, in no predictable pattern. I had a weird one a few nights ago - Lisa was doing an hour-long shift (at midnight, no less) on our local oldies station, WBBF, but instead of being in their spiffy studios downtown, they were in these ratty studios in a basement, apparently that of the AM 1370 transmitter site. (There are not, and have never been, any studios in the basement of the 1370 transmitter building.) I gotta stop eating those jalapeno peppers before going to bed... s From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Mar 16 01:57:24 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed Mar 16 01:57:24 2005 Subject: True radio geek dream In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.0.20050315223843.048dc6e0@gwind.pair.com> References: Message-ID: <42379284.10568.971F8F@localhost> On 15 Mar 2005 at 22:40, Scott Fybush wrote: > I had a weird one a few nights ago - Lisa was doing an hour-long shift > (at midnight, no less) on our local oldies station, WBBF, but instead > of being in their spiffy studios downtown, they were in these ratty > studios in a basement, apparently that of the AM 1370 transmitter > site. I think the last radio dream I had was several years ago. I dreamed that Buffalo Bob Smith had returned to radio with a syndicated program, and that it was being carried on 1600 in Boston (which in my dream was still WBOS). Too bad it wasn't true; I would have loved to listen to it. But he had already died by the time I had the dream. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Mar 16 02:07:28 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed Mar 16 02:08:18 2005 Subject: post-sunset authorisation query Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050316020707.022fc8b0@pop.registeredsite.com> Maybe the rules changed or maybe I wasn't totally clear about them, but if you have a day-timer, how long can you stay on the air after sunset, and with what wattage? I heard a daytimer on the air long after sunset tonight and they sounded as if they were at just about their full wattage-- I thought you can only use reduced power if you are on after sundown. Do I have this all wrong? From sid@wrko.com Wed Mar 16 07:20:32 2005 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Wed Mar 16 07:20:47 2005 Subject: post-sunset authorisation query Message-ID: >>if you have a day-timer, how long can you stay on the air after sunset, and with what wattage?<< Without specific PSSA (post-sunset authority) from the Friendly Cookie Company, you cannot stay on the air at all past the sunset times listed on the station license. The one exception to that general rule is when a station has obtained specific authority to remain at daytime power until sunset in a time zone west of the station's time zone, but again, that would be noted on the station's license. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Mar 16 07:26:19 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed Mar 16 07:26:18 2005 Subject: post-sunset authorization query References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050316020707.022fc8b0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <001c01c52a23$604231e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Many Class D AMs can stay on the air 24/7. WJIB is an example. It's on a Canadian clear channel and needs to protect the Canadian Class A station's 0.5 mV/m 50% skywave contour only within Canadian borders (actually, only ON LAND within Canadian borders). So the distance between Cambridge and wherever along the US-Canada border CHWO's 50% skywave signal drops to 0.5 mV/m provides a buffer zone for WJIB's 5W night signal to be attenuated down to 25 microlts/meter. Some daytimers with full night authorzations also have and use PSSAs. A local example is WSRO, 650 in Ashland. WSRO begins operating under its PSSA at local sunset in Ashland but operates with full daytime power (250W) until local sunset in Nashville. (The dominant Class A on 650 is WSM.) In most months, Nashville sunset is an hour after Boston sunset, but it varies. WSRO then reduces power (to a rumored 50W) until two hours after Ashland sunset, when its PSSA ends. At that point, WSRO reduces power still further to 9W, which level it maintains until Ashland sunrise. WSRO is an example of a station located OUTSIDE and to the east of the 0.5 mV/m 50% skywave contour of the dominant co-channel Class A station. Class D stations located to the east of the dominant station but within that contour are permitted to remain on the air at reduced power only until local sunset at the dominant station. An example is WILD, which is within the 0.5 mV/m 50% skywave contour of WBAL. WILD operates with reduced power (I think around 70W, but I'm not sure) between Boston sunset and Baltimore sunset. The maximum PSSA power is alleged to be 500W, and indeed Grady Moates reports that when WBIX was still a daytimer, this was the power it used for the 15 minutes between Natick sunset and Philadelphia sunset. WBIX also used its critical-hours daytime pattern during that 15-minute interval. WBIX, being outside KYW's 0.5 mV/m 50% skywave contour (despite the short distance between Natick and Philadelphia, WBIX is the beneficiary of KYW's directional pattern, which protects first-adjacent WEPN in New York City) actually could and sometimes did legally remain on the air under PSSA until two hours after Natick sunset, but after the first 15 minutes, the power was so low, coverage was pretty much restricted to the part of Mt Wayte Ave in Framinham near the transmitter site. The power that a station is permitted under a PSSA is not easy to explain, except it's low and is never supposed to exceed the lesser of 500W or the station's critical-hours power (which, for most stations, is the daytime power). PSSA powers (at least for stations on Class A channels) actually vary from month to month and they are generally lower in the winter than in the summer. There is no known public FCC database that lists PSSA or PSRA (pre-sunrise) powers for the many hundreds of AMs that have been granted PSRAs and PSSAs. The use of PSRAs and PSSAs as well as the nighttime use of full-time facilities by Class D AMs is optional. If a station doesn't like its PSRA or PSSA power, it can just not operate during the hours when the authorization applies. Similarly, some stations actually use lower power under PSRA or PSSA during certain hours when they could use higher power but with a directional pattern they consider to be less favorable than the pattern they use under PSRA or PSSA. A local example is WXKS (AM), which was granted a 500W ND PSRA when it was still a daytimer. WXKS is now a fulltimer authorized to run 1 kW-DA at night, but in the winter months, WXKS continues to use the 500W ND PSRA between 6:00 AM and local sunrise because it covers the market much better that way than it does running 1 kw DA. Well, Donna, that's it in a very large nutshell. More, I'm sure than you ever wanted to know--but not quite all you wanted to know, because the information for answering the "how much power" part of your question is just not available. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 2:07 AM Subject: post-sunset authorisation query > Maybe the rules changed or maybe I wasn't totally clear about them, but if > you have a day-timer, how long can you stay on the air after sunset, and > with what wattage? I heard a daytimer on the air long after sunset tonight > and they sounded as if they were at just about their full wattage-- I > thought you can only use reduced power if you are on after sundown. Do I > have this all wrong? > From dlh@donnahalper.com Wed Mar 16 13:05:39 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Wed Mar 16 13:06:32 2005 Subject: post-sunset authorization query In-Reply-To: <001c01c52a23$604231e0$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050316020707.022fc8b0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050316130346.022ef938@pop.registeredsite.com> >Dan wrote-- >Well, Donna, that's it in a very large nutshell. More, I'm sure than you >ever wanted to know--but not quite all you wanted to know, because the >information for answering the "how much power" part of your question is just >not available. Actually, I'm glad you elaborated-- it seems the enforcement of this is quite arbitrary and I was puzzled by it... perhaps it's not enforced because there is not one official standard for compliance? Or is this just one more thing the FCC isn't concerned about? From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Fri Mar 11 17:15:15 2005 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (Chuck Igo) Date: Wed Mar 16 13:19:55 2005 Subject: Harry Nelson returns Message-ID: <001701c52687$cd87d9c0$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> Let's see.... Portland is about to pass the 100 inch mark in seasonal snowfall this weekend. And the average temperature in Ft.Myers, FL is probably 72. snow... 72. snow... 72. Yep, Harry Bud Nelson has decided that he'll come play in the snow and has accepted the program director's gig at Saga's WPOR. Rick "RJ" Jordan, most recently the WPOR PD, and his family just returned to New York State owing to being too far from "home." and for this reason as well, Harry is headed back north. He's expected to be back in town later this month. - -Chuck Igo From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Sat Mar 12 05:21:14 2005 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (chuckigo@maine.rr.com) Date: Wed Mar 16 13:19:57 2005 Subject: True radio geek dream Message-ID: <5be1b35be5d8.5be5d85be1b3@nyroc.rr.com> Dan Wrote: > (snip) I have dreams where I am dumped into a radio > studio and an unable to keep things going without having dead air. > In some of the dreams, I am in a modern studio and am having trouble with > the computer system, but sometimes I am in an old studio and am unable > to get records cued up in time. I have not worked in radio for a year > and a half and I still have such dreams from time to time. > > And yes, I am old enough to have played records on the radio. > Right Chuck? > that whole keeping the station moving, dead air, non-cued records thing? wasn't a dream, Dan. (ducking&grinning) yes, you are old enough to have played records on the radio. our entire playlist, except for currents/recurrents at WIDE was vinyl. matter of fact, the format used to be known as "round with a hole in the middle of it" (if it was round and hole in the middle, WIDE used to play it) - -Chuck Igo From dan.strassberg@att.net Wed Mar 16 13:30:56 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Wed Mar 16 13:31:05 2005 Subject: post-sunset authorization query References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050316020707.022fc8b0@pop.registeredsite.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20050316130346.022ef938@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <000f01c52a56$5205e800$19eefea9@dstrassberg> The FCC is supposed to enforce AM operational changes at sunrise, sunset, and other times of day. But the rules on PSSAs are so complicated, the only way I can see most stations doing it--and getting it right--is by use of computer-based timers. If a station changes power at 6:00 AM local time (if 6:00 is before local sunrise), sunrise, two hours later, two hours before local sunset, sunset, sunset somewhere else (location of the dominant co-channel Class A station), and two hours after sunset, and the power used in the two stages between local sunset and two hours afterward is different in each month, how can any human possibly be expected to keep track of it all and get each change right 365 days a year (366 in leap years) without a computer? If I've counted correctly, that's SEVEN power changes a day during the winter, and six per day at other times of the year. The PSRA rules must have gone into effect in the sixties, when it was not reasonable to expect small stations to have computers. But the rules then were simple enough that a computer wasn't essential. I think the PSSA rules went into effect in the early 80s. Not too long after that, somebody might have written an Apple Basic program to look after all of these changes and could have run the program on an Apple II. Might have worked, too. But it sounds a little too kludgey to use in running a commercial enterprise. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Dan Strassberg" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 1:05 PM Subject: Re: post-sunset authorization query > > >Dan wrote-- > >Well, Donna, that's it in a very large nutshell. More, I'm sure than you > >ever wanted to know--but not quite all you wanted to know, because the > >information for answering the "how much power" part of your question is just > >not available. > > Actually, I'm glad you elaborated-- it seems the enforcement of this is > quite arbitrary and I was puzzled by it... perhaps it's not enforced > because there is not one official standard for compliance? Or is this just > one more thing the FCC isn't concerned about? > From billo@shoreham.net Wed Mar 16 15:33:04 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed Mar 16 15:35:50 2005 Subject: Harry Nelson returns In-Reply-To: <001701c52687$cd87d9c0$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> References: <001701c52687$cd87d9c0$0300a8c0@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: <42389800.7010006@shoreham.net> Chuck Igo wrote: >He's expected to be back in town >later this month. > File under: You can take the boy out of New England but... The market's fortunate to have that talent back in the neighborhood. Bill O'Neill Shoreham, VT (Home of the Mac apple...the fruit, not the computer) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 3/15/2005 From billo@shoreham.net Wed Mar 16 15:41:12 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Wed Mar 16 15:41:39 2005 Subject: True radio geek dream In-Reply-To: <5be1b35be5d8.5be5d85be1b3@nyroc.rr.com> References: <5be1b35be5d8.5be5d85be1b3@nyroc.rr.com> Message-ID: <423899E8.8090807@shoreham.net> chuckigo@maine.rr.com wrote: >yes, you are old enough to have played records on the radio. our entire playlist, except for currents/recurrents at WIDE was vinyl. matter of fact, the format used to be known as "round with a hole in the middle of it" (if it was round and hole in the middle, WIDE used to play it) > >- -Chuck Igo > > > My brain is mushed such that DOHs! real and imagined are blended together better than a well-built margarita. I guess the worst (dream, I assume) was I was at a live remote and looked around and found that the entire convention center was dark, empty, closed down, and it all happened in the course of one 3:42 favorite. I could always close a room. Bill (Hello?) O'Neill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 3/15/2005 From raccoonradio@myway.com Thu Mar 17 03:07:09 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu Mar 17 03:07:22 2005 Subject: Dick Raddatz (Red Sox, WEEI) has died Message-ID: <20050317080709.739BA39BF@mprdmxin.myway.com> Former Red Sox pitcher Dick "The Monster" Raddatz (with the team in the early 60s) died yesterday from injuries related to a fall down a flight of stairs at his home in Easton. He was 67. Listeners to WEEI were familiar with his appearances on "The Big Show" and I believe he also did some work with the various Sunday night sports shows on local TV. More recently, Raddatz was pitching coach for Lynn's North Shore Spirit. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From billo@shoreham.net Thu Mar 17 07:18:59 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu Mar 17 07:19:27 2005 Subject: Dick Raddatz (Red Sox, WEEI) has died In-Reply-To: <20050317080709.739BA39BF@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20050317080709.739BA39BF@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <423975B3.2010505@shoreham.net> Bob Nelson wrote: >Former Red Sox pitcher Dick "The Monster" Raddatz (with the team in the early 60s) died yesterday from injuries related to a fall down a flight of stairs at his home in Easton. He was 67. Listeners to WEEI were familiar with his appearances on "The Big Show" and I believe he also did some work with the various Sunday night sports shows on local TV. More recently, Raddatz was pitching coach for Lynn's North Shore Spirit. > > Raddatz was one of the greats. I had the privilege to meet him at one of the Sox events (Fantasy Ball). Awhile back since it was in the old Garden. He, along with Bill Lee and others, made for a genuinely good time. I recall Raddatz as being, far and above (pun intended), the most accessable of the stars at that reception. His style was to be generous with his discussions with individual fans and never seemed to tire of the demands that the crowd placed on him. And just think, Dick got the job done for less than the usual $3.2 M and without the need for teammates to inject his butt with performance enhancers. RIP and Play ball -- Bill O'Neill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 3/15/2005 From kwillcox@wnsh.com Thu Mar 17 13:47:55 2005 From: kwillcox@wnsh.com (Keating Willcox) Date: Thu Mar 17 13:47:13 2005 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20050317134527.02b66058@mail.comcast.net> The exact hours of operation are handled by a neat program called Autopilot, which makes the correct changes, and logs everything. When I first bought WMVU, they were making manual readings every two hours (what a total hassle) and they were turning the station on and off when someone arrived in the MA and left in the PM. I found Autopilot and had it installed instantly. Never since have I had to worry, my logs are accurate, and my power is on/off/low correct within a few seconds. Sincerely, Keating Willcox ~/~ WNSH AM 1570 Beverly 'playing the best music ever recorded' kwillcox@wnsh.com www.wnsh.com 978-921-1570 FAX 978-468-1954 376 Hale Street, Beverly, MA 01915 From sid@wrko.com Thu Mar 17 14:00:02 2005 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Thu Mar 17 14:00:27 2005 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: >>The exact hours of operation are handled by a neat program called Autopilot, which makes the correct changes, and logs everything.<< ...assuming you are using a Burk remote control. AutoPilot doesn't work with anything else. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Mar 17 14:12:09 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Mar 17 14:12:17 2005 Subject: WAZN And WBET Missing? Message-ID: <20050317191209.68C67E5BC7@ws7-2.us4.outblaze.com> I'm taking today (03/17) off (wanna guess why?) and I did a quick AM dial scan at about noon, and it appears that both WBET-AM 1460 in Brockton and WAZN-AM 1470, COL Watertown, MA (?) are both off-the-air. I can see how WAZN with a brand-new and only recently-tested array might be doing some tweaking, but a long-established outlet with a non-directional daytime license? The only thing I can figure with WBET is that somebody failed to make the facilities switch at 6:00 and they're still running 1KW-DA, and since I live well north of Brockton it's failing to register. -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Thu Mar 17 15:10:50 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu Mar 17 15:11:15 2005 Subject: WHOB Nashua stunting Message-ID: <20050317201050.E979D395A@mprdmxin.myway.com> Have heard that WHOB in Nashua is stunting, playing REM's "It's The End of the World As We Know It" on a loop since early afternoon. Just tuned in--indeed they are. Format change coming? Minor tweak? (Format changes have been known to happen on Friday late afternoon, or sometimes Monday...so whether this will last for just over 24 hours, or for a longer period, who knows...) _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From fox893@yahoo.com Thu Mar 17 15:30:31 2005 From: fox893@yahoo.com (Cooper Fox) Date: Thu Mar 17 15:30:43 2005 Subject: WHOB Nashua stunting In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050317203031.46681.qmail@web54607.mail.yahoo.com> > (Format changes have been known to happen on Friday > late afternoon, > or sometimes Monday...so whether this will last for > just over 24 > hours, or for a longer period, who knows...) Go here... http://www.1063frankfm.com/ All your questions will be answered. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From jjlehmann@comcast.net Thu Mar 17 15:31:36 2005 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Thu Mar 17 15:31:40 2005 Subject: WHOB Nashua stunting In-Reply-To: <20050317201050.E979D395A@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <200503172031.j2HKVcd5072280@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> I think it's pretty obvious what they're changing to: http://www.1063frankfm.com Just what southern NH needs, another Classic Rock/Hits station... Frank is not like Jack FM, with the Hot AC and other unique stuff mixed in, it's just pure classic hits like WROR. It's been on 107.5 in Portland for a while now. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA >-----Original Message----- >From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston- >radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Bob Nelson >Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:11 PM >To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org >Subject: WHOB Nashua stunting > > >Have heard that WHOB in Nashua is stunting, playing REM's "It's The End of >the World As We Know It" on a loop since early afternoon. >Just tuned in--indeed they are. Format change coming? Minor tweak? >(Format changes have been known to happen on Friday late afternoon, >or sometimes Monday...so whether this will last for just over 24 >hours, or for a longer period, who knows...) > > > > >_______________________________________________ >No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. >Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From brian_vita@cssinc.com Thu Mar 17 16:38:41 2005 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Thu Mar 17 16:38:58 2005 Subject: WHOB Nashua stunting In-Reply-To: <20050317203031.46681.qmail@web54607.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000201c52b39$b6e7ec30$4900a8c0@Adrastea> Oh boy. Another cookie cutter. I particularly like how they've "trademarked" such terms as "Classic Hits" on their website. Next they'll be trademarking terms such as "email usTM" and "nextTM". Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 75 Walnut St. - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 USA +1-978-538-7575 voice +1-978-538-7550 fax www.cssinc.com > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of Cooper Fox > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:31 PM > To: raccoonradio@myway.com; bri@bostonradio.org > Subject: Re: WHOB Nashua stunting > > > > > > (Format changes have been known to happen on Friday > > late afternoon, > > or sometimes Monday...so whether this will last for > > just over 24 > > hours, or for a longer period, who knows...) > > Go here... http://www.1063frankfm.com/ > All your questions will be answered. > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Thu Mar 17 16:43:53 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Thu Mar 17 16:43:57 2005 Subject: WHOB Nashua stunting In-Reply-To: <000201c52b39$b6e7ec30$4900a8c0@Adrastea> References: <20050317203031.46681.qmail@web54607.mail.yahoo.com> <000201c52b39$b6e7ec30$4900a8c0@Adrastea> Message-ID: <200503172143.j2HLhrfx028828@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > Oh boy. Another cookie cutter. I particularly like how they've > "trademarked" such terms as "Classic Hits" on their website. Next they'll > be trademarking terms such as "email usTM" and "nextTM". They can claim a trademark all they want, but I seriously doubt they could make it stick. Unlike, for example, "Kiss", which is a name, "classic hits" is (arguably) merely a description, and mere descriptions are not subject to trademark protection. (IANAL but I do try to keep up with Intellectual Property law.) -GAWollman From stephanie@gordsven.com Thu Mar 17 16:49:27 2005 From: stephanie@gordsven.com (Stephanie Weil) Date: Thu Mar 17 16:49:37 2005 Subject: WHOB Nashua stunting In-Reply-To: <000201c52b39$b6e7ec30$4900a8c0@Adrastea> References: <000201c52b39$b6e7ec30$4900a8c0@Adrastea> Message-ID: On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Brian Vita wrote: > Oh boy. Another cookie cutter. I particularly like how they've > "trademarked" such terms as "Classic Hits" on their website. Next they'll > be trademarking terms such as "email usTM" and "nextTM". Hmm...they're going to have to tell Clear Channel's Classic Rock behemoth Q-104 in New York that "Get the Led out" is trademarked now! I wanna see how that goes! XD == steph From billo@shoreham.net Thu Mar 17 17:11:52 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu Mar 17 17:12:21 2005 Subject: WHOB Nashua stunting In-Reply-To: <200503172143.j2HLhrfx028828@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <20050317203031.46681.qmail@web54607.mail.yahoo.com> <000201c52b39$b6e7ec30$4900a8c0@Adrastea> <200503172143.j2HLhrfx028828@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <423A00A8.30604@shoreham.net> Garrett Wollman wrote: >They can claim a trademark all they want, but I seriously doubt they >could make it stick. > What next, "Steve 106.3?" How about "Harry 106.3" Ebeneser 106.3... wait, how about Bartholomew 106.3... Leo 106.3. Lumpy 106.3 The Beaver 106.3 (down kids) .... Wally 106.3... Fitty Cent 106.3 Boyeeez... Pull-eze. Bill O'Neill 106.3 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 3/15/2005 From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Thu Mar 17 17:19:55 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Thu Mar 17 17:20:12 2005 Subject: WHOB Nashua stunting Message-ID: <200503171719.AA343343268@mail.ttlc.net> "Bill O'Neill" penned: >What next, "Steve 106.3?" How about "Harry 106.3" Ebeneser 106.3... >wait, how about Bartholomew 106.3... Leo 106.3. Lumpy 106.3 The >Beaver 106.3 (down kids) .... Wally 106.3... Fitty Cent 106.3 >Boyeeez... IIMI or is male chauvanism rearing its ugly head here again? Other than Alice, how many other formats have been named after women? (perhaps I have selectively forgotten) Donning asbestos, Roger Kirk From lglavin@lycos.com Thu Mar 17 17:56:33 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Thu Mar 17 17:56:41 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading Message-ID: <20050317225633.C2B12CA06F@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> About a week ago, The Atlantic Monthly magazine arrived in my mailbox, with a cover displaying the blurred image of a man behind a microphone (the microphone image was clear). This image was designed to highlight the feature article in the April issue, "The Host", a somewhat lengthy article (with numerous sidebars) about one particulat talk show host, John Ziegler, of KFI-AM, Los Angeles. I didn't mention it earlier because subscribers get the latest issue a few days before newsstands and libraries, but it's available now, and I'd recommend it highly. It's one of the BEST articles about radio I've ever read in a general-circulation (about 500,000 copies, most with multiple readers because it's in nearly EVERY sizable public or college library) magazine...and as a bonus, there's even an opinion piece about Air America! Now the newsstand price is $4.95, so you might be reluctant to spring for that sum for a MAGAZINE, but if you can't read it otherwise, it's still a good investment of your money and time. -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From gary@garysicecream.com Thu Mar 17 21:34:41 2005 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Thu Mar 17 21:34:57 2005 Subject: WHOB Nashua stunting In-Reply-To: <200503171719.AA343343268@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <200503180234.j2I2YoaZ030906@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Personally I've always been fond of "Gary FM", Gary AM, or "All Gary Radio".....hmmmmmmmm. -Gary Francis WCAP -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of rogerkirk Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 5:20 PM To: Garrett Wollman; billo@shoreham.net Cc: bri@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: WHOB Nashua stunting "Bill O'Neill" penned: >What next, "Steve 106.3?" How about "Harry 106.3" Ebeneser 106.3... >wait, how about Bartholomew 106.3... Leo 106.3. Lumpy 106.3 The >Beaver 106.3 (down kids) .... Wally 106.3... Fitty Cent 106.3 >Boyeeez... IIMI or is male chauvanism rearing its ugly head here again? Other than Alice, how many other formats have been named after women? (perhaps I have selectively forgotten) Donning asbestos, Roger Kirk From miscon@miscon.net Thu Mar 17 22:47:48 2005 From: miscon@miscon.net (Mission Control) Date: Thu Mar 17 22:48:12 2005 Subject: WHOB Nashua stunting Message-ID: <200503172247.AA298844382@miscon.net> I want to think that it was WHOB B106 because of the owner's granddaughter(?) liked honey bee's... something like that... ooof that was a alooong time ago... heheh... geez, what *was* that old leatherneck's name? (the owner, not the granddaughter!) Mike ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "rogerkirk" Reply-To: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:19:55 -0500 >"Bill O'Neill" penned: > >>What next, "Steve 106.3?" How about "Harry 106.3" Ebeneser 106.3... >>wait, how about Bartholomew 106.3... Leo 106.3. Lumpy 106.3 The >>Beaver 106.3 (down kids) .... Wally 106.3... Fitty Cent 106.3 >Boyeeez... > >IIMI or is male chauvanism rearing its ugly head here again? > >Other than Alice, how many other formats have been named after >women? (perhaps I have selectively forgotten) > >Donning asbestos, > >Roger Kirk > > > > From billo@shoreham.net Thu Mar 17 23:08:41 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu Mar 17 23:08:29 2005 Subject: WHOB Nashua stunting In-Reply-To: <200503180234.j2I2YoaZ030906@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <200503180234.j2I2YoaZ030906@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <423A5449.7020404@shoreham.net> Gary's Ice Cream wrote: >Personally I've always been fond of "Gary FM", Gary AM, or "All Gary >Radio".....hmmmmmmmm. > >-Gary Francis >WCAP > How do you spell "bulletin?" Bill O'Neill Shore'm, Vermaant From billo@shoreham.net Thu Mar 17 23:11:06 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Thu Mar 17 23:10:48 2005 Subject: WHOB Nashua stunting In-Reply-To: <200503172247.AA298844382@miscon.net> References: <200503172247.AA298844382@miscon.net> Message-ID: <423A54DA.5030006@shoreham.net> Mission Control wrote: >geez, what *was* that old leatherneck's name? (the owner, not the granddaughter!) > > > Why does it seem unlikely that her name was Penelope,. Faith, or Chastidy? Bill O' From brian_vita@cssinc.com Fri Mar 18 00:28:01 2005 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Fri Mar 18 00:26:15 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading In-Reply-To: <20050317225633.C2B12CA06F@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <000201c52b7b$41308dc0$660fa8c0@elara> > About a week ago, The Atlantic Monthly magazine arrived in my > mailbox, with a cover displaying the blurred image of a man > behind a microphone (the microphone image was clear). This > image was designed to highlight the feature article in the > April issue, "The Host", a somewhat lengthy article > (with numerous sidebars) about one particulat talk show > host, John Ziegler, of KFI-AM, Los Angeles. I didn't > mention it earlier because subscribers get the latest issue > a few days before newsstands and libraries, but it's > available now, and I'd recommend it highly. It's one of the > BEST articles about radio I've ever read in a > general-circulation (about 500,000 copies, most with multiple > readers because it's in nearly EVERY sizable public or > college library) magazine...and as a > bonus, there's even an opinion piece about Air America! > Now the newsstand price is $4.95, so you might be reluctant > to spring for that sum for a MAGAZINE, but if you can't read > it otherwise, it's still a good investment of your money and time. > Try this link: http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/prem/200504/wallace Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 +1-978-538-7575 Voice +1-978-538-7550 Fax www.cssinc.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Fri Mar 18 03:05:58 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Fri Mar 18 03:06:20 2005 Subject: WHOB Nashua stunting Message-ID: <20050318080558.BD83C3969@mprdmxin.myway.com> Brian Vita wrote: >>Oh boy. Another cookie cutter. I particularly like how they've "trademarked" such terms as "Classic Hits" on their website. I tuned in just after 6 and heard them play Joe Walsh, Stones, Boston, etc., with "Frank" bumpers telling listeners "you said you wanted a station that..." blah blah blah. Well, people seem to like the cookie cutter classic rockers. Or so they feel. I can't remember when it happened exactly, but there was a station in Minneapolis that dubbed themselves "Bob" with the slogan "Turn Your Knob to 'Bob'". Soon afterwards, the comedy show Mystery Science Theatre 3000 (produced in Brainerd, MN, not far away) had some comedy bits in which character TV's Frank (Frank Conniff) decided to start a radio station named after himself, with the slogan 'Turn your crank to Frank'. And later, stations with names like Frank did pop up in reality! _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From hykker@grolen.com Fri Mar 18 07:22:39 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Fri Mar 18 07:22:40 2005 Subject: WHOB Nashua stunting In-Reply-To: <200503172247.AA298844382@miscon.net> References: <200503172247.AA298844382@miscon.net> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050318072200.01b367f8@pop3.grolen.com> Mission Control wrote: >I want to think that it was WHOB B106 because of the owner's >granddaughter(?) liked honey bee's... something like that... ooof that was >a alooong time ago... heheh... geez, what *was* that old leatherneck's >name? (the owner, not the granddaughter!) Are you thinking of Mario DeCarlo? From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Mar 18 13:39:38 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri Mar 18 13:39:46 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading Message-ID: <20050318183938.60371C610F@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> As I said, you only get the first paragraph, then the requirement to enter your subscribers number. Even bugmenot.com doesn't have a log-in for The Atlantic. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Brian Vita" >To: "'Laurence Glavin'" , boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >Subject: RE: Recommended Reading >Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 00:28:01 -0500 > > > About a week ago, The Atlantic Monthly magazine arrived in my > > mailbox, with a cover displaying the blurred image of a man > > behind a microphone (the microphone image was clear). This image > > was designed to highlight the feature article in the April issue, > > "The Host", a somewhat lengthy article (with numerous sidebars) > > about one particulat talk show > > host, John Ziegler, of KFI-AM, Los Angeles. I didn't > > mention it earlier because subscribers get the latest issue > > a few days before newsstands and libraries, but it's available > > now, and I'd recommend it highly. It's one of the BEST articles > > about radio I've ever read in a general-circulation (about > > 500,000 copies, most with multiple readers because it's in nearly > > EVERY sizable public or college library) magazine...and as a > > bonus, there's even an opinion piece about Air America! > > Now the newsstand price is $4.95, so you might be reluctant > > to spring for that sum for a MAGAZINE, but if you can't read > > it otherwise, it's still a good investment of your money and time. > > > > Try this link: > > http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/prem/200504/wallace > > Brian T. Vita, President > Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. > 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 > Peabody, MA 01960-5691 > +1-978-538-7575 Voice > +1-978-538-7550 Fax > www.cssinc.com -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Mar 18 13:44:41 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri Mar 18 13:45:00 2005 Subject: WHOB Nashua stunting Message-ID: <20050318184441.85242CA06F@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bob Nelson" >To: brian_vita@cssinc.com, boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org >Subject: RE: WHOB Nashua stunting >Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:05:58 -0500 (EST) > > Brian Vita wrote: > > >> Oh boy. Another cookie cutter. I particularly like how they've > >> "trademarked" such terms as "Classic Hits" on their website. > > I tuned in just after 6 and heard them play Joe Walsh, Stones, > Boston, etc., with "Frank" bumpers telling listeners "you said you > wanted a station that..." blah blah blah When a radio station, upon changing formats, says "you said you wanted a station that...", what they're really saying is "not enough of you wanted what we were doing until now". -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Mar 18 13:50:26 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri Mar 18 13:50:34 2005 Subject: WBET-AM And WAZN-AM Are Back Message-ID: <20050318185026.97F23CA06F@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> A sweep of the AM dial this morning (well after sunrise because skywave seemed to persist until after 9:00 am with LSR at 5:56!) indicated that WAZN-AM 1470 COL Watertown, and WBET-AM 1460 in Brockton are back. I posted their absence here and at radio-info.com (which BTW is functioning again), and someone who posts with the handle "Neggy" claimed to know that a power supply or transfomer needed replacement...nothing about a phasor though. As for WBET, nothing to report except that it's back to taking bird-fed non-stop news. -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Mar 18 15:11:24 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri Mar 18 15:12:17 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading In-Reply-To: <20050318183938.60371C610F@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050318150258.0264c6d0@pop.registeredsite.com> At 01:39 PM 3/18/2005 -0500, Laurence Glavin wrote: >As I said, you only get the first paragraph, then the requirement >to enter your subscribers number. Even bugmenot.com doesn't have >a log-in for The Atlantic. I am a subscriber so I can get you the entire article. But I actually found it rather odd in that the author seems very anti- the idea of liberal talk and doesn't seem to believe it can succeed. As a consultant (and I have NEVER let my own personal beliefs get in the way of what is right for a market of mine), I think some markets are perfect for liberal talk, while others are not. But I do believe it is a viable format these days, whereas it might not have been ten years ago. From lglavin@lycos.com Fri Mar 18 16:03:48 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Fri Mar 18 16:03:56 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading Message-ID: <20050318210348.C2452CA06F@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Donna Halper" >To: "Laurence Glavin" , "Brian Vita" , boston-radio->interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >Subject: RE: Recommended Reading >Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:11:24 -0500 > > At 01:39 PM 3/18/2005 -0500, Laurence Glavin wrote: > > As I said, you only get the first paragraph, then the requirement > > to enter your subscribers number. Even bugmenot.com doesn't have > > a log-in for The Atlantic. > > I am a subscriber so I can get you the entire article. But I > actually found it rather odd in that the author seems very anti- > the idea of liberal talk and doesn't seem to believe it can > succeed. As a consultant (and I have NEVER let my own personal > beliefs get in the way of what is right for a market of mine), I > think some markets are perfect for liberal talk, while others are > not. But I do believe it is a viable format these days, whereas it > might not have been ten years ago. Just checking: are you conflating (I love that word) ANOTHER article in the mag, the one about Air America's business plan, authored by Joshua Green AND the front-page article about the KFI (did you know that the 'FI' stood for 'Farm Information' when the original owners applied for the license...it's in the Atlantic article) talk-show host? In the former, Green penned essentially an opinion piece, and it's a bit down on AA. -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Fri Mar 18 16:29:46 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Fri Mar 18 16:30:40 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050318162844.0254fdd8@pop.registeredsite.com> >Laurence G wrote-- >Just checking: are you conflating (I love that word) ANOTHER article >in the mag, the one about Air America's business plan, authored by >Joshua Green AND the front-page article about the KFI >(did you know that the 'FI' stood for 'Farm Information' >when the original owners applied for the license...it's in the >Atlantic article) talk-show host? In the former, Green >penned essentially an opinion piece, and it's a bit down on >AA. Actually both articles get their digs in at liberal talk, if memory serves. The KFI article focused on great talk show hosts, and was written in a very confusing manner... But I found the digs at Air America and liberal talk in general rather puzzling. From billings@suscom-maine.net Fri Mar 18 23:36:52 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Fri Mar 18 23:36:57 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050318162844.0254fdd8@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <002101c52c3d$46360620$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> The Air American station in Portland markets itself as a liberal station. Is this typical of most Air America stations? Do many talk stations sell themselves as a conservative station? I know there are many stations that are primarily conservative but most at least have a liberal co-host and also run shows that are not political like Joy Browne or speciality weekend shows. From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Mar 19 00:48:58 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat Mar 19 00:49:53 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading In-Reply-To: <002101c52c3d$46360620$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050318162844.0254fdd8@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050319004653.02697610@pop.registeredsite.com> At 11:36 PM 3/18/2005 -0500, Daniel Billings wrote: >The Air American station in Portland markets itself as a liberal station. >Is this typical of most Air America stations? Not really. Most call themselves "progressive" rather than liberal, although individual hosts may call themselves liberal. Btw, some conservatives do in fact use the term, but more common is the word "right" (as in 'from the right', or puns like 'he's got the right stuff'). From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Mar 19 09:54:58 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat Mar 19 09:55:03 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050318162844.0254fdd8@pop.registeredsite.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20050319004653.02697610@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <000701c52c93$9f56aec0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Daniel Billings" ; Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 12:48 AM Subject: Re: Recommended Reading > Not really. Most call themselves "progressive" rather than liberal, > although individual hosts may call themselves liberal. Btw, some > conservatives do in fact use the term, but more common is the word "right" > (as in 'from the right', or puns like 'he's got the right stuff'). My point was I am not aware of talk stations that promote themselves as only have hosts from a right or conservative or Republican point of view. There are plenty of stations that have hosts that are primarily from a right of center point of view but they usually have other shows that do not fit that profile. For example,. in Portland, the most successful talk station is WGAN. They carry Rush, Howie Carr, and Bill O'Reilly but they also have a liberal co-host of the morning show and a liberal local host on Saturday, plus they run Joy Browne and other shows that are not political. Air America is promoted as an alternative to traditional talk stations, but by providing hosts all from one spectrum it is significantly different from most traditional talk stations. There is nothing wrong with that but it is a point that seems to be missing from coverage of Air America. From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Mar 19 12:42:05 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat Mar 19 12:42:58 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading In-Reply-To: <000701c52c93$9f56aec0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050318162844.0254fdd8@pop.registeredsite.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20050319004653.02697610@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050319123807.026baca8@pop.registeredsite.com> Dan B wrote-- >Air America is promoted as an alternative to traditional talk stations, >but by providing hosts all from one spectrum it is significantly different >from most traditional talk stations. There is nothing wrong with that but >it is a point that seems to be missing from coverage of Air America. If you ever read that old classic of marketing, "Positioning: The Battle for your Mind" by Ries and Trout, it stresses the importance of being first to own a particular niche. Rightly or wrongly, Air America feels there is a market for "progressive talk" and positioned itself to own that niche. Interestingly, each of its hosts has varying views, based on what I've heard, and ther are many degrees of liberalism. Some AA hosts even disagree with each other on certain issues, which is a good thing. It's boring when a host (either right wing or left wing) is just so predictable that you already know what they are going to say. Also, many AA stations carry some Democracy Radio (Jones syndicates it) hosts-- Ed Schultz comes to mind, and he is a centrist on many issues and a moderate on others, but still identifies as a "leftie". From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Mar 19 14:18:43 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Mar 19 14:18:53 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading Message-ID: <20050319191843.2F6A6CA06F@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Donna Halper" >To: "Daniel Billings" , boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org >Subject: Re: Recommended Reading >Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:42:05 -0500 > > If you ever read that old classic of marketing, "Positioning: The > Battle for your Mind" by Ries and Trout, it stresses the importance > of being first to own a particular niche. Rightly or wrongly, Air > America feels there is a market for "progressive talk" and > positioned itself to own that niche. Interestingly, each of its > hosts has varying views, based on what I've heard, and ther are > many degrees of liberalism. Some AA hosts even disagree with each > other on certain issues, which is a good thing. It's boring when a > host (either right wing or left wing) is just so predictable that > you already know what they are going to say. Also, many AA > stations carry some Democracy Radio (Jones syndicates it) hosts-- > Ed Schultz comes to mind, and he is a centrist on many issues and a > moderate on others, but still identifies as a "leftie". With regard to the "Host" article's dismissal of Air America, it is only one short sidebar on page 68 in the print version. He says Air America may not last because "progressives" aren't disaffected enough. But he overlooks the importance of the entertainment factor, and I know Billo in VT disagrees, but I think that Stephanie Miller and Al Franken are at least as entertaining as anyone on the right. As a somewhat public service, I have registered with the Atlantic's website so anyone who wishes to do so can read this article and the opinion piece on Air America. As previously noted, go to http://www.the atlantic.com Then use the log-in of 'bostonradio' and password of 'bostonradio'. -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Mar 19 14:33:54 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Mar 19 14:34:00 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading Message-ID: <20050319193354.45B66CA06F@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: "Donna Halper" , "Daniel Billings" , boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org Subject: Re: Recommended Reading Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:18:43 -0500 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Donna Halper" > > To: "Daniel Billings" , > > boston-radio-interest@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > > Subject: Re: Recommended Reading > > Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:42:05 -0500 > > > > If you ever read that old classic of marketing, "Positioning: > > The Battle for your Mind" by Ries and Trout, it stresses the > > importance of being first to own a particular niche. Rightly or > > wrongly, Air America feels there is a market for "progressive > > talk" and positioned itself to own that niche. Interestingly, > > each of its hosts has varying views, based on what I've heard, > > and ther are many degrees of liberalism. Some AA hosts even > > disagree with each other on certain issues, which is a good > > thing. It's boring when a host (either right wing or left wing) > > is just so predictable that you already know what they are going > > to say. Also, many AA stations carry some Democracy Radio (Jones > > syndicates it) hosts-- Ed Schultz comes to mind, and he is a > > centrist on many issues and a moderate on others, but still > > identifies as a "leftie". > > With regard to the "Host" article's dismissal of Air America, it > is only one short sidebar on page 68 in the print version. He > says Air America may not last because "progressives" aren't > disaffected enough. But he overlooks the importance of the > entertainment factor, and I know Billo in VT disagrees, but I > think that Stephanie Miller and Al Franken are at least as > entertaining as anyone on the right. As a somewhat public > service, I have registered with the Atlantic's website so anyone > who wishes to do so can read this article and the opinion piece > on Air America. As previously noted, go to > > http://www.the atlantic.com > > Then use the log-in of 'bostonradio' and password of 'bostonradio'. > Ooops...make that: http://www.theatlantic.com -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Mar 19 15:16:25 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat Mar 19 15:17:29 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050318162844.0254fdd8@pop.registeredsite.com><5.1.0.14.2.20050319004653.02697610@pop.registeredsite.com> <000701c52c93$9f56aec0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <003501c52cc0$b2d56680$19eefea9@dstrassberg> The fact that typical talk stations, with mostly right-wing hosts, blatently neo-con and Rapture-right agendas, and unabashedly slanted "news", get off suggesting that what they broadcast is at the mainstream of American opinion simply reinforces the desperate need for liberal or progressive talk stations. Alas, the majority of "progressive" talk facilities are second-rate AM signals, although there are some big signals mixed in--in Portland OR, Seattle, LA, Miami, Denver, and Cincinnati, for example. However, nearly all are owned by companies such as CCU and Entercom, whose managements are WAY to the right of center. CCU insists on delaying the broadcast of Air America's top talent, Randi Rhodes, and may ultimately replace her with Jerry Springer, whose REALLY DULL show is syndicated by CCU's own Premiere subsidiary. CCU stations carry hardly any of Mike Malloy, who I think deserves the widest exposure of any AAR host. What we do get of Malloy here in Boston airs only on weekends at inconveneient hours, is delayed by days, and represents just a couple of hours a week of the 15 hours of Malloy that AAR puts on the bird. This is just another in a litany of examples that show how US news media are in the pockets of big corporations with hard-right agendas, while all we hear is the unmitigated lie that the media have a left-wing bias. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Billings" To: ; "Donna Halper" Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 9:54 AM Subject: Re: Recommended Reading > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna Halper" > To: "Daniel Billings" ; > > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 12:48 AM > Subject: Re: Recommended Reading > > > Not really. Most call themselves "progressive" rather than liberal, > > although individual hosts may call themselves liberal. Btw, some > > conservatives do in fact use the term, but more common is the word "right" > > (as in 'from the right', or puns like 'he's got the right stuff'). > > My point was I am not aware of talk stations that promote themselves as > only have hosts from a right or conservative or Republican point of view. > There are plenty of stations that have hosts that are primarily from a right > of center point of view but they usually have other shows that do not fit > that profile. For example,. in Portland, the most successful talk station > is WGAN. They carry Rush, Howie Carr, and Bill O'Reilly but they also have > a liberal co-host of the morning show and a liberal local host on Saturday, > plus they run Joy Browne and other shows that are not political. Air > America is promoted as an alternative to traditional talk stations, but by > providing hosts all from one spectrum it is significantly different from > most traditional talk stations. There is nothing wrong with that but it is > a point that seems to be missing from coverage of Air America. > > From kc1ih@mac.com Sat Mar 19 16:09:33 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sat Mar 19 16:09:38 2005 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Frankly=2C_it=92s_not_WHOB_anymore_?= Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050319160623.01f834f0@mail.mac.com> Here's an article about the recent stunting and format change at WHOB (now WFNQ) in Nashua, NH: http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050319/BUSINESS/103190003 Interestingly, the police got a call from someone who heard the stunting and thought they were being held hostage. Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Sat Mar 19 16:36:35 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat Mar 19 16:36:39 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading In-Reply-To: <000701c52c93$9f56aec0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050318162844.0254fdd8@pop.registeredsite.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20050319004653.02697610@pop.registeredsite.com> <000701c52c93$9f56aec0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <200503192136.j2JLaZLV053254@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > My point was I am not aware of talk stations that promote themselves as > only have hosts from a right or conservative or Republican point of > view. I am -- there are lots out there in the rest of the country, where they are still making hay with the "liberal media" canard. Even here, Salem's WTTT markets itself as "Pro-Family Talk Radio": "pro-family" being a code word for "conservative". (I note their site also links to the right-wing think tank, the Heritage Foundation, as well as right-wing conspiracy rag WorldNetDaily, "conservative news and information" site townhall.com, and Drudge in addition to "liberal media" outpost boston.com.) The very first paragraph on 560wind.com says, "Welcome to Chicago's brand new News-Talk 560 WIND where you will always find a consistent view on daily events. You can find us on the left side of your radio dial, but right on the issues." Salem is probably the largest group to consistently brand itself this way (it's part of their "brand image" after all); other major groups tend to let their hosts do the politicking for them. (You see this with, for example, a number of California stations promoting a nativist rally to be held next month on the Web pages of their local personalities.) As in the case of Salem, most of the stations I've seen explicitly promoting themselves as "conservative talk" have been second and third stations in the format in their market; their intent is to imply that the big-name hosts on the major stations are insufficiently conservative. The leading talk station generally tends to be a heritage station in the market that may well have more diverse programming (for the same reason as you rarely see "conservative" local TV stations even when the news is slanted that way). -GAWollman From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Mar 19 18:18:39 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat Mar 19 18:18:47 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050318162844.0254fdd8@pop.registeredsite.com><5.1.0.14.2.20050319004653.02697610@pop.registeredsite.com><000701c52c93$9f56aec0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <200503192136.j2JLaZLV053254@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <001b01c52cd9$fc1f6b10$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" To: "Daniel Billings" Cc: Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 4:36 PM Subject: Re: Recommended Reading > I am -- there are lots out there in the rest of the country, where > they are still making hay with the "liberal media" canard. Even here, > Salem's WTTT markets itself as "Pro-Family Talk Radio": "pro-family" > being a code word for "conservative". You make a good point about Salem. Their marketing is the flip-side of what Air America does. But it is interesting that the most of the major stations that Air America is supposed to be the alternative to do not play to only one side of the political spectrum even if most of the hosts are right of center. From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Mar 19 18:32:43 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat Mar 19 18:57:25 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050318162844.0254fdd8@pop.registeredsite.com><5.1.0.14.2.20050319004653.02697610@pop.registeredsite.com><000701c52c93$9f56aec0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <200503192136.j2JLaZLV053254@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <001101c52cdf$6b6c0e60$19eefea9@dstrassberg> I knew Salem had bought WIND. Salem has a real affinity for low-on-the-dial AMs: WMCA, WFIL, 570 in Tampa Bay, WEZE, and I bet I missed some. But usually Salem puts preaching and teaching on the low-on-the-dial station. I'm surprised they didn't move that stuff from WYLL to WIND and put the talk on 1160. Despite 1160 being 50 kW-D (with an app for 50 kW-U), I doubt that 1160 covers any better than 560 does. And with its current 5 kW at night, 1160 can't cover as well at night as 560 does. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Wollman" To: "Daniel Billings" Cc: Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 4:36 PM Subject: Re: Recommended Reading > < said: > > > My point was I am not aware of talk stations that promote themselves as > > only have hosts from a right or conservative or Republican point of > > view. > > I am -- there are lots out there in the rest of the country, where > they are still making hay with the "liberal media" canard. Even here, > Salem's WTTT markets itself as "Pro-Family Talk Radio": "pro-family" > being a code word for "conservative". (I note their site also links > to the right-wing think tank, the Heritage Foundation, as well as > right-wing conspiracy rag WorldNetDaily, "conservative news and > information" site townhall.com, and Drudge in addition to "liberal > media" outpost boston.com.) > > The very first paragraph on 560wind.com says, "Welcome to Chicago's > brand new News-Talk 560 WIND where you will always find a consistent > view on daily events. You can find us on the left side of your radio > dial, but right on the issues." > > Salem is probably the largest group to consistently brand itself this > way (it's part of their "brand image" after all); other major groups > tend to let their hosts do the politicking for them. (You see this > with, for example, a number of California stations promoting a > nativist rally to be held next month on the Web pages of their local > personalities.) > > As in the case of Salem, most of the stations I've seen explicitly > promoting themselves as "conservative talk" have been second and third > stations in the format in their market; their intent is to imply that > the big-name hosts on the major stations are insufficiently > conservative. The leading talk station generally tends to be a > heritage station in the market that may well have more diverse > programming (for the same reason as you rarely see "conservative" > local TV stations even when the news is slanted that way). > > -GAWollman > From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Mar 19 19:10:15 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat Mar 19 19:10:18 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050318162844.0254fdd8@pop.registeredsite.com><5.1.0.14.2.20050319004653.02697610@pop.registeredsite.com><000701c52c93$9f56aec0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af><200503192136.j2JLaZLV053254@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <001b01c52cd9$fc1f6b10$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <002001c52ce1$3899e280$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Dan: Of course, most talk stations play to the right end of the policial spectrum; they just don't advertise themsleves as doing so. It's all part of the pervasive big lie about mainstream media being objective (if you believe the typical right-wing pundits) or being biased to the left (if you believe the neo-cons). The fact is, most talk stations are pretty hard right; they just try to pass themselves off as being centrist--something that only a naif or a right-winger like you would accept. I assume station management believes that maintaining a facade of centrism makes it easier to attract listeners and advertisers. The more savvy progressives are on to this game, however--and have been for years. We've been starved for something that isn't hard right; that's why AAR has gotten such a favorable reception in so many markets. Even NPR has moved way to the right; they've had to do it to appease the corporate underwriters, who provide a larger percentage of the funding each year--as the neo-cons whittle away at government appropriations for anything they don't brand as conservative or faith-based. Someday, this whole neo-con agenda is going to implode. Right now, though, most of the populace seems content in their ignorance. Nevertheless, sooner or later, large numbers of people will wake up to the fact that they've been had and that the corporate-controlled media have been instrumental in their being had. Then the pendulum will start to swing to the left. Depending on how many people are truly radicalized when they grasp the enormity of the raw deal they've been handed by the big corporations, the pendulum may or may not get past the center. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Billings" To: "Garrett Wollman" Cc: Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 6:18 PM Subject: Re: Recommended Reading > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Garrett Wollman" > To: "Daniel Billings" > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 4:36 PM > Subject: Re: Recommended Reading > > But it is interesting that the most of the major stations that Air America > is supposed to be the alternative to do not play to only one side of the > political spectrum even if most of the hosts are right of center. > > From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Mar 19 20:38:39 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat Mar 19 20:39:31 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading In-Reply-To: <001b01c52cd9$fc1f6b10$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050318162844.0254fdd8@pop.registeredsite.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20050319004653.02697610@pop.registeredsite.com> <000701c52c93$9f56aec0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <200503192136.j2JLaZLV053254@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050319201858.0b0fc2c0@pop.registeredsite.com> >Dan B wrote-- >But it is interesting that the most of the major stations that Air America >is supposed to be the alternative to do not play to only one side of the >political spectrum even if most of the hosts are right of center. I must disagree. Listen to the rhetoric on many right-wing stations. Listen to how they demonise and insult anyone who doesn't agree with the president or with ultra-conservative points of view. Listen to the name-calling, and how there is an "us= good Americans" versus "them= liberal, pinko commie traitors." Okay fine, I exaggerate, but not by much. Listening to some right wing talk shows, you really do get the idea that "either you're with us or against us". So if you are creating a villain ("the left", "liberals", "the 'hate America' crowd", "those obstructionist Democrats", "activist judges", "the homosexual agenda", "feminazis" etc) and presenting yourself and your audience as the only good, true, patriotic Americans, and if you do as Limbaugh does and refuse to take any callers who don't agree with that viewpoint, how is that an example of "playing to all sides of the political spectrum"????????? Since the sad day when the Fairness Doctrine came to an end, the right wing has had years of uninterrupted dominance and has been able to express their views in what to me are often stereotypic and harsh terms. They have not encouraged an exchange of opinion, but more often than not, they have encouraged hatred of anyone with a different point of view. As a moderate, I have no problem with the right wing point of view, and on a few issues, I even agree with it. But I don't like the nastiness and the exaggerating and the refusal to admit that there might be some truth on the other side of the issue. As I have said before, I believe many conservative talk show hosts have played to the lowest common denominator, even if that meant skating perilously close to fostering contempt for what is to me just normal healthy disagreement. Equating loyalty to the president with being a good American and saying that anyone who doesn't support the president hates America really gets me upset. So why listen? Until recently, there was no other game in town, so if you wanted to hear talk, that's what there was, whether you agreed with it or not. I don't think everyone who listens to right wing radio does so because they find it so appealing-- they listen because it's there and they wanna know what is being said abou their particular group. For example, as a Jew, I was heartily offended when in December, I heard a speaker on the O'Reilly Factor claim that "the Jews" control Hollywood and they are trying to enforce a separation of church and state because they hate Christmas and hate Christians. And Mr O'Reilly did NOT dispute that-- in fact, according to what I heard, and according to the transcript of the show, he seemed to agree. Now, I hate neither Christmas nor Christians-- but I really do hate being insulted... and on right wing talk shows, that's what happens a lot-- the host sets up one group as representative of evil, and proceeds to beat up on that group relentlessly. If that's your example of playing to all sides of the political spectrum, Dan, we as a nation are all in serious trouble. From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Sat Mar 19 21:28:28 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat Mar 19 21:28:38 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050319201858.0b0fc2c0@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050318162844.0254fdd8@pop.registeredsite.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20050319004653.02697610@pop.registeredsite.com> <000701c52c93$9f56aec0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <200503192136.j2JLaZLV053254@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <001b01c52cd9$fc1f6b10$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <5.1.0.14.2.20050319201858.0b0fc2c0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <200503200228.j2K2SSoS054631@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > lot-- the host sets up one group as representative of evil, and proceeds to > beat up on that group relentlessly. If that's your example of playing to > all sides of the political spectrum, Dan, we as a nation are all in serious > trouble. It is a human failing (pointed out by Gould, Levi-Strauss, and others), so common as to be possibly innate, that we often prefer to view our experiences as the intersection of dichotomous Platonic essences, rather than points in an irreducible continuum. So our natural mental toolkit gives us "us" versus "them", "good" versus "evil", "fat" versus "thin", "short" versus "tall", "black" versus "white", "left" versus "right", "Jew" versus "Gentile", and so on -- we just naturally fall into it. It takes an intellectual effort to escape this mode of thinking -- a challenge -- and many in the talk radio audience are looking for confirmation, not challenge. In fact, we treasure these labels so much that their meanings frequently drift far away from the original essence, as witness the radicalism of many modern "conservatives" whose agenda would a century ago have been considered "liberal", versus modern "liberals" with their conservative emphasis on preserving the status quo in labor, the environment, social programs, and so on. Society didn't just "flip a bit" one day and suddenly liberals were conservative and vice versa; we passed through many points along a continuum of views (many such continua, actually) to get from one point to the other. -GAWollman From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Mar 19 22:01:36 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat Mar 19 22:01:43 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050318162844.0254fdd8@pop.registeredsite.com><5.1.0.14.2.20050319004653.02697610@pop.registeredsite.com><000701c52c93$9f56aec0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af><200503192136.j2JLaZLV053254@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu><001b01c52cd9$fc1f6b10$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af><5.1.0.14.2.20050319201858.0b0fc2c0@pop.registeredsite.com> <200503200228.j2K2SSoS054631@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <000b01c52cf9$21dd5780$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> I wasn't commenting on the content of the shows or the actions of the hosts but the way that the stations are marketed and positioned. When I have tuned in Air America on its Portland station, I was surprised that the station itself was so directly positioned by an ideological and even partisan label. I had never heard a station positioned in that way -- individual shows and hosts certainly, but not whole stations. (I accept Garrett's point about Salem's talk stations.) I wonder how such a clear label on a whole station will impact sales? I bet WGAN's sales would drop if they started positioning themselves as the conservative station. Dan -- My conservative friends would laugh out loud at me being labeled a right-winger. -- Dan Billings, Bowdoinham, Maine From billo@shoreham.net Sat Mar 19 22:17:26 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sat Mar 19 22:17:43 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading In-Reply-To: <000b01c52cf9$21dd5780$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050318162844.0254fdd8@pop.registeredsite.com><5.1.0.14.2.20050319004653.02697610@pop.registeredsite.com><000701c52c93$9f56aec0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af><200503192136.j2JLaZLV053254@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu><001b01c52cd9$fc1f6b10$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af><5.1.0.14.2.20050319201858.0b0fc2c0@pop.registeredsite.com> <200503200228.j2K2SSoS054631@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <000b01c52cf9$21dd5780$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <423CEB46.9030805@shoreham.net> Daniel Billings wrote: > I wonder how such a clear label on a whole station will impact sales? > I bet WGAN's sales would drop if they started positioning themselves > as the conservative station. There's a lot to be said for the lack of talkers who are in it because of the love of good old fashioned discourse, mixing up the opinions. Bill O'Neill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005 From scott@fybush.com Sat Mar 19 23:47:45 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sat Mar 19 23:47:48 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading In-Reply-To: <000b01c52cf9$21dd5780$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050318162844.0254fdd8@pop.registeredsite.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20050319004653.02697610@pop.registeredsite.com> <000701c52c93$9f56aec0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <200503192136.j2JLaZLV053254@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <001b01c52cd9$fc1f6b10$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <5.1.0.14.2.20050319201858.0b0fc2c0@pop.registeredsite.com> <200503200228.j2K2SSoS054631@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050319230901.0326be58@gwind.pair.com> At 10:01 PM 3/19/2005 -0500, you wrote: >I wasn't commenting on the content of the shows or the actions of the >hosts but the way that the stations are marketed and positioned. When I >have tuned in Air America on its Portland station, I was surprised that >the station itself was so directly positioned by an ideological and even >partisan label. I had never heard a station positioned in that way -- >individual shows and hosts certainly, but not whole stations. (I accept >Garrett's point about Salem's talk stations.) I wonder how such a clear >label on a whole station will impact sales? I bet WGAN's sales would drop >if they started positioning themselves as the conservative station. I've been reluctant to jump into this conversation, if for no other reason than that I'm completely politicked-out after last year's election season. I have had zero desire to listen to ANY political talk radio, left, right, or center, since November. But... While I can't speak for WGAN, having not been in listening range for several years now (I'm long overdue to get back up Maine way), I can speak for Rochester, where news/talk radio for many years has pretty much been limited to the 50-kilowatt torch of 1180 WHAM. Like WGAN, WHAM continues to position itself in the market simply as "the" news and talk station, taking advantage of its huge signal advantage (it's the ONLY AM that fully covers the market day and night) and universal name recognition. But outside of its news-focused morning show, an hour of news at 5 PM and a sports talk show from 6-8, the rest of WHAM's schedule now leans in a very predictable and mightily one-sided direction, with Glenn Beck followed by a very conservative local host (who makes no bones about his orientation, and whose frequent fill-in host is the county GOP chairman) followed by Limbaugh, with Savage bringing up the rear from 8-11 PM. (There's an inexplicable hour of Dr. Dean Edell after that, followed by Coast to Coast AM overnight.) And the station's on-air imaging, while not overtly partisan a la Air America or the Salem talkers, has been showing a decided lean towards the very self-conscious display of patriotism that's seemed to be on the rise among right-leaning media in recent years. (The legal ID after 9/11 emphasized "Rochester, New York, U! S! A!," which seemed a little belligerent to me for a station with a whomping signal over the lake into Canada, there's a daily noon broadcast of the Star Spangled Banner, etc.) It's no coincidence at all that a lot of people I know refer to the station as "WGOP," or that many of my friends whose politics lean to the left (or even to just left of moderate) have stopped listening to the station in the last few years. It's actually somewhat unfortunate for the WHAM news department, which is staffed by some fine newspeople who do their job without any political leaning one way or the other, but whose work is viewed with some suspicion by many in the community by association with the political tack that WHAM's talkers take. There's a "progressive talker" in the market, too, an Entercom station on a 1 kilowatt directional AM signal with almost no promotion and no heritage in the community to draw on. It doesn't do well in the ratings, which is no surprise. WHAM continues to do well in the market almost by default - there's simply nowhere else to go in drivetime for a local all-news product on commercial radio here, and there's certainly a loyal audience for the station's talk offerings. But there's no way the station could ever draw the ratings it once did, in part because it now also turns off the significant portion of the market that holds opposite political views (Democrats still hold a slight edge in voter registrations in Monroe County) or that doesn't care for hard-line political talk of either stripe. I just wonder whether it doesn't end up being a mistake, over the long run, to transform the image of a legendary full-service station like WHAM from "all things to all people" into "WGOP." It's not hard to understand how it happened - it's not as though there were many other successful models for talk until recently, and WHAM's hardly alone in going in this direction, joined by other legendary stations up this way like WGY, WBEN and WSYR - but you've got to wonder whether WHAM could ever again be perceived as "the station for everyone," as it once was. To bring this back around to Boston, I think it's fair to say that WRKO in 2005 also lacks the broad spectrum of political views that made WRKO in 1990 so interesting to listen to. It really was "THE talk station" then. Today it's "SOME PEOPLE's talk station." (The worst such example, in my recent experience, is WOWO in Fort Wayne, which has gone from being the market's full-service voice to being a very predictable political talker, complete with Fox Radio News and a local news operation that believes any story that can't be told in 28 seconds or less isn't worth telling. Even in a conservative market like Fort Wayne, WOWO has alienated a significant percentage of the market, and it's hard to imagine them coming back any time soon.) Or perhaps it's simply that there's a huge dearth of talent out there who can craft interesting talk radio without the crutch of taking an unyielding political stance and brooking no opposing views. The stations that still employ such talkers do well with them - look at the ratings of stations like KGO, KMOX and WGN, or at the numbers David Brudnoy pulled on WBZ - but perhaps there just aren't enough such voices working their way up the pipeline, or perhaps there's just no demand for them. (Sorry, BillO...) What I'm getting at is this: I have no beef with partisan talk radio that identifies itself as such. I think there's a place for Air America and a place for Salem's talkers, and for everyone in between. But I'd rather see them on stations like WKOX/WXKS and WTTT, with no established identity to tarnish, than on legendary stations like WHAM or WOWO (or WPRO, or WGAN, or WHYN) that have the kind of market heritage that a long-sighted owner might not want to damage for the sake of a political trend that, while lucrative, will surely pass sooner or later. I suspect I'm not the only one - on whatever side of the spectrum - who's burned out on political talk after the venom-fest that was 2004. We know that news-talkers of all stripes did exceptionally well in the most recent ratings thanks in no small part to election season. How big will the fall be when the next set of numbers hits? (And to what extent will less partisan talkers like WBZ-at-night, WGN or KGO avoid that drop?) Interesting times... s From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Mar 19 23:47:53 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Mar 19 23:48:00 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading In-Reply-To: <000701c52c93$9f56aec0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <423CBA29.13587.7AC0F4@localhost> On 19 Mar 2005 at 9:54, Daniel Billings wrote: > My point was I am not aware of talk stations that promote themselves > as only have hosts from a right or conservative or Republican point of > view. Of course they don't. And Fox News says it's "fair and balanced." The right in this country are trying to present their opinions as facts and themselves as the only legitimate mainstream point of view. Stations which are all right-wing talk don't promote themselves as that. There are plenty of stations that have hosts that are primarily > from a right of center point of view but they usually have other shows > that do not fit that profile. For example,. in Portland, the most > successful talk station is WGAN. They carry Rush, Howie Carr, and > Bill O'Reilly but they also have a liberal co-host of the morning show > and a liberal local host on Saturday, You mean like Hanity and Colmes on Fox News, where Colmes is the token liberal, who mostly sits quietly and rarely, if ever, contradicts Hanity? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Sun Mar 20 02:12:25 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Sun Mar 20 02:12:53 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading References: <423CBA29.13587.7AC0F4@localhost> Message-ID: <000a01c52d1c$2fefb520$1404fea9@xyz> From: "A. Joseph Ross" > Of course they don't. And Fox News says it's "fair and balanced." The right in this country > are trying to present their opinions as facts and themselves as the only legitimate > mainstream point of view. After suffering so many years of the dems/lefties dpresenting themselves in the very same way....as the "mainstream" point of view. I remember the days of talkradio being filled with liberals, and wondered why they spoke about their perspective like it was the "only rationale one" and as if they were mainstream. Manella, Larry King, Benzaquin, Glick, etc. All politics is cyclical. I remember they went after Nancy Reagan (Nancy's China, astrology, 'Just Say No")...and some cried "unfair". Then they did the same thing to Hillary (Co-president, health care dabbling, etc) and the other side said "unfair". So, much for wives being 'off-limits'. The Republicans were crying for a 'line item veto' when they were in the minority, and now they are not too interested in it now that they are in the majority. And now we have heard Democrats saying it's time for the 'line item veto'. I figure we can't complain about the "other" party, when "our" party does the same things. Th repubs use to say that the Dems were "scaring the country about Medicare and SS", now we have Bush "Scaring the country about SS". I know what you mean about being "politicked out".....especially when we see the same things happening with both parties. (Only it looks more correct when it's "our" party.) > You mean like Hanity and Colmes on Fox News, where Colmes is the token liberal, who > mostly sits quietly and rarely, if ever, contradicts Hanity? Gee, they put a liberal on, and you don't even like that! ;-) Just can't keep you guys happy! ;-) From hykker@grolen.com Sun Mar 20 09:41:45 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sun Mar 20 09:41:40 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050319201858.0b0fc2c0@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050318162844.0254fdd8@pop.registeredsite.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20050319004653.02697610@pop.registeredsite.com> <000701c52c93$9f56aec0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <200503192136.j2JLaZLV053254@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <5.1.0.14.2.20050319201858.0b0fc2c0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050320093253.01b75ee8@pop3.grolen.com> Donna Halper wrote: >I must disagree. Listen to the rhetoric on many right-wing >stations. Listen to how they demonise and insult anyone who doesn't agree >with the president or with ultra-conservative points of view. Listen to >the name-calling, and how there is an "us= good Americans" versus "them= >liberal, pinko commie traitors." Okay fine, I exaggerate, but not by >much. Listening to some right wing talk shows, you really do get the idea >that "either you're with us or against us". So if you are creating a >villain ("the left", "liberals", "the 'hate America' crowd", "those >obstructionist Democrats", "activist judges", "the homosexual agenda", >"feminazis" etc) and presenting yourself and your audience as the only >good, true, patriotic Americans, and if you do as Limbaugh does and refuse >to take any callers who don't agree with that viewpoint, how is that an >example of "playing to all sides of the political spectrum"????????? Yes you are exaggerating a bit, but you certainly have a valid point. When the left shrieks about the "right wing media", talk radio seems to be what they're referring to (I don't have cable and have never seen Fox news so I can't comment about that). I certainly don't consider the major networks overly conservative. My problem with Air Amerikka and the so-called "progressive" talk genre is that it's merely a left-slanted version of Rush, O'Reilly and others of their ilk. I suppose that given the increasing polarization of the country this was the plan, but if they have any hope of preaching to anyone but the choir this is the wrong way to do it. I find Rhodes, Franken, Miller and the like every bit as grating as O'Reilly and Savage. From hykker@grolen.com Sun Mar 20 09:49:41 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sun Mar 20 09:49:25 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading In-Reply-To: <423CBA29.13587.7AC0F4@localhost> References: <000701c52c93$9f56aec0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <423CBA29.13587.7AC0F4@localhost> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050320094726.01b75da0@pop3.grolen.com> A. Joseph Ross wrote: >Of course they don't. And Fox News says it's "fair and balanced." The >right in this country >are trying to present their opinions as facts and themselves as the only >legitimate >mainstream point of view. Stations which are all right-wing talk don't >promote themselves as >that. So why then do the libtalkers position themselves "progressive" talk and not "liberal" talk? The words are not synonymous by any stretch of the imagination. Same reason..."liberal" and "right wing" have become negative images. From hykker@grolen.com Sun Mar 20 09:55:57 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sun Mar 20 09:55:52 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20050319230901.0326be58@gwind.pair.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050318162844.0254fdd8@pop.registeredsite.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20050319004653.02697610@pop.registeredsite.com> <000701c52c93$9f56aec0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <200503192136.j2JLaZLV053254@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <001b01c52cd9$fc1f6b10$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <5.1.0.14.2.20050319201858.0b0fc2c0@pop.registeredsite.com> <200503200228.j2K2SSoS054631@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20050319230901.0326be58@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050320095107.01b96950@pop3.grolen.com> Scott Fybush wrote: >I just wonder whether it doesn't end up being a mistake, over the long >run, to transform the image of a legendary full-service station like WHAM >from "all things to all people" into "WGOP." It's not hard to understand >how it happened - it's not as though there were many other successful >models for talk until recently, and WHAM's hardly alone in going in this >direction, joined by other legendary stations up this way like WGY, WBEN >and WSYR - but you've got to wonder whether WHAM could ever again be >perceived as "the station for everyone," as it once was. To bring this >back around to Boston, I think it's fair to say that WRKO in 2005 also >lacks the broad spectrum of political views that made WRKO in 1990 so >interesting to listen to. It really was "THE talk station" then. Today >it's "SOME PEOPLE's talk station." But this could be said for most of our culture today, not just talk radio. Remember when Top 40 had something for everyone and pulled double-digit shares even in major markets? TV variety shows like Ed Sullivan, Red Skelton and the like which drew huge audiences across all demographics? I'd imagine that concept is mind-boggling to anyone under 30 today. We have as a society become so niched we don't want to hear or see anything that contradicts our own tastes or prejudices. Who's gonna put Humpty Dumpty back together again? From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Sun Mar 20 10:05:13 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Sun Mar 20 10:05:28 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading Message-ID: <200503201005.AA1373176122@mail.ttlc.net> > Donna Halper wrote: > >>I must disagree. Listen to the rhetoric on many right-wing >>stations. Listen to how they demonise and insult anyone who >>doesn't agree with the president or with ultra-conservative >>points of view. Listen to the name-calling >>So if you are creating a villain ("the left", "liberals", >>"the 'hate America' crowd", "those obstructionist >>Democrats", "activist judges", "the homosexual agenda", >>"feminazis" etc) and presenting yourself and your audience >>as the only good, true, patriotic Americans, Steve Ordinetz replied: >Yes you are exaggerating a bit, but you certainly have a valid point. I find that not an exaggeration, but rather a transcript of a typical Michael Savage show. From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Sun Mar 20 12:07:40 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Sun Mar 20 12:07:44 2005 Subject: Uncle Gus Dead At 85 Message-ID: <200503201207.AA1599406258@mail.ttlc.net> According to the Union Leader/New Hampshire Sunday News: "'Uncle Gus' Bernier, the TV friend of a generation of New Hampshire children in the 1960s and ?70s, died peacefully in his sleep yesterday at his home in Hawaii." A detailed and quite lengthy story at: http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showa.html?article=52209 Channel 9's Web Site "www.TheWMURChannel.com" managed to devote a whopping FIVE sentences in an AP wire headline halfway down the page - below "Unlicensed Crematorium" and "M.E. Fraud" stories, but above the "Pedestrian Accident" headline. So much for heritage, local coverage and in-depth reporting. From kwillcox@wnsh.com Sun Mar 20 13:56:16 2005 From: kwillcox@wnsh.com (Keating Willcox) Date: Sun Mar 20 13:55:59 2005 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20050320134743.02d1a218@mail.comcast.net> A couple of points.... Talk radio is still very popular, and it seems to have new ideas and issues all the time. Conservatives and libertarians do seem to be able to draw on a richer fabric of intellectual discourse, whether they are trashing liberals or each other. I do think that radio or TV that has alternate viewpoints, much like most FOX news evening shows, has a tremendous capacity to elucidate the actual facts on some issue, whether it's a crime, legislation, or foreign policy. Some of the debates are quite sophisticated, and some of the debaters are really skilled. Not always, but for example, the debate on Social Security is being carried out at very high level, what's best for me vs what's best for the country, where does the money go, what do we owe future generations, lots of really great questions, and talk radio and talk TV really can provide more light than heat. I love it all. Liberal talk radio hosts are less talented. Liberal TV hosts seem to be much more talented. We get spoiled by Alan Colmes and other liberal TV guys because they are both smart and entertaining. Other than Jim Hightower, I can't think of a radio liberal personality who is as engaging. Maybe someone will emerge? The very best talk show, bar none, is John Batchelor. This guy is so very excellent, he makes the rest of talk hosts seem like dull. He does such a food job selling books, that my Amazon account is killing my credit cards, but I am enjoying all these new books. Give him a try. And if WRKO ever wants to give him up, we would take him in a heartbeat. Sincerely, Keating Willcox ~/~ WNSH AM 1570 Beverly 'playing the best music ever recorded' kwillcox@wnsh.com www.wnsh.com 978-921-1570 FAX 978-468-1954 376 Hale Street, Beverly, MA 01915 From scott@fybush.com Sun Mar 20 14:09:29 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun Mar 20 14:09:46 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050320095107.01b96950@pop3.grolen.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050318162844.0254fdd8@pop.registeredsite.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20050319004653.02697610@pop.registeredsite.com> <000701c52c93$9f56aec0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <200503192136.j2JLaZLV053254@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <001b01c52cd9$fc1f6b10$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <5.1.0.14.2.20050319201858.0b0fc2c0@pop.registeredsite.com> <200503200228.j2K2SSoS054631@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20050319230901.0326be58@gwind.pair.com> <6.0.3.0.0.20050320095107.01b96950@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20050320135355.048e1fb8@gwind.pair.com> >>I just wonder whether it doesn't end up being a mistake, over the long >>run, to transform the image of a legendary full-service station like WHAM >>from "all things to all people" into "WGOP." It's not hard to understand >>how it happened - it's not as though there were many other successful >>models for talk until recently, and WHAM's hardly alone in going in this >>direction, joined by other legendary stations up this way like WGY, WBEN >>and WSYR - but you've got to wonder whether WHAM could ever again be >>perceived as "the station for everyone," as it once was. To bring this >>back around to Boston, I think it's fair to say that WRKO in 2005 also >>lacks the broad spectrum of political views that made WRKO in 1990 so >>interesting to listen to. It really was "THE talk station" then. Today >>it's "SOME PEOPLE's talk station." > >But this could be said for most of our culture today, not just talk >radio. Remember when Top 40 had something for everyone and pulled >double-digit shares even in major markets? TV variety shows like Ed >Sullivan, Red Skelton and the like which drew huge audiences across all >demographics? I'd imagine that concept is mind-boggling to anyone under >30 today. I'd respectfully beg to differ. There are still plenty of media outlets that endeavor to appeal to broad segments of the audience. Mass-appeal entertainment shows like American Idol come to mind, as do broadcast sports, most local TV news and, yes, the poor, beleaguered daily newspaper. I'm not saying that Idol or NASCAR-on-Fox or 7 News or the Globe are automatically everyone's cup of tea, just that they're not specifically designed to play to one segment of the audience at the explicit exclusion of others. The same is true of the handful of general-audience talk stations still out there, like KGO, KMOX and WGN. The incredible profusion of entertainment and news choices means we'll likely never again see the kind of ratings that an Ed Sullivan or a Walter Cronkite drew in the old three-channel era, but I'd make a case that the audience for American Idol or CSI or Law & Order is just as demographically broad, if admittedly smaller. >We have as a society become so niched we don't want to hear or see >anything that contradicts our own tastes or prejudices. Who's gonna put >Humpty Dumpty back together again? There have always been niches of one sort or another. They just shift media as times and technologies change. Go back a century and buy a newspaper on the streets of Boston and you'd have had your choice of, what, a dozen dailies, each with their own prejudices and criticisms and often very strongly-worded editorial viewpoints? Whatever institutional biases and prejudices may slip into today's Globe and Herald are meek and timid compared with the partisan papers of the nineteenth century (and, even more so, those of the eighteenth century.) I have no problem with that. I'm just saying that if I were running a station like WHAM or WRKO (or WABC, for that matter), I'd be looking for ways to make my product more appealing - or at least not an automatic turn-off - to the half (or more) of the potential audience that doesn't share those political views. One final note, by way of a request for courtesy: this list has a long and proud history of being a civil place to discuss broadcasting and related issues. Could we, perhaps, all agree to steer clear of name-calling ("Air Amerikka," "Faux News") and to give those with whom we disagree the courtesy of calling them by their proper names? It would be a shame to see the high level of discourse here sink to the level of, say, the radio-info board...and even worse if our Moderator were forced to jump in. s From scott@fybush.com Sun Mar 20 14:29:00 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun Mar 20 14:29:08 2005 Subject: Uncle Gus Dead At 85 In-Reply-To: <200503201207.AA1599406258@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200503201207.AA1599406258@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20050320142455.048ac9f0@gwind.pair.com> At 12:07 PM 3/20/2005, rogerkirk wrote: >According to the Union Leader/New Hampshire Sunday News: > >"'Uncle Gus' Bernier, the TV friend of a generation of >New Hampshire children in the 1960s and '70s, died >peacefully in his sleep yesterday at his home in Hawaii." > >A detailed and quite lengthy story at: > >http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showa.html?article=52209 > >Channel 9's Web Site "www.TheWMURChannel.com" managed to devote a whopping >FIVE sentences in an AP wire headline halfway down the page - below >"Unlicensed Crematorium" and "M.E. Fraud" stories, but above the >"Pedestrian Accident" headline. So much for heritage, local coverage and >in-depth reporting. In fairness, it's a weekend and WMUR is probably lightly staffed. I don't know what time the story moved last night, but I'd bet that WMUR didn't have it in time to do anything much for their 6 or 11 shows on Saturday night, which means the next chance they'll get is at 6 or 11 tonight. I'd hope like heck that something more substantive shows up on the web after that. (If they're anything like most small TV newsrooms, the website content comes out of the on-air product, and if there's no weekend morning news, there's no web update, either.) The Union Leader, if it's anything like most newspapers (which it isn't, but I digress :-) maintains a "morgue" file, and I'd bet that their lengthy article was already sitting there written and ready to roll. Most broadcast outlets lack the staff or the level of advance planning needed to have such material ready. (Though I did see a stack of carts atop a filing cabinet at CBS News when I visited last month that included a Dick Cheney obit...) s From lglavin@lycos.com Sun Mar 20 15:56:09 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sun Mar 20 15:56:26 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading Message-ID: <20050320205609.99A7F86B0F@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Scott Fybush" > > One final note, by way of a request for courtesy: this list has a > long and proud history of being a civil place to discuss > broadcasting and related issues. Could we, perhaps, all agree to > steer clear of name-calling ("Air Amerikka," "Faux News") and to > give those with whom we disagree the courtesy of calling them by > their proper names? It would be a shame to see the high level of > discourse here sink to the level of, say, the radio-info > board...and even worse if our Moderator were forced to jump in. > > s It appears the thread moved to a general discussion of just talk radio; the point is that I wanted to make the "Host" article available to all and for people to discuss it. It wouldn't be fair to the Atlantic to keep just this website a portal to theatlantic.com forever, so in about 24 hours, I'll disable the log-in 'bostonradio' and return it to the the password I had been using . It took about a half-hour to read the body of the article in the print version (in the smallest room of my house) not including the side-bars, which in part are very informative and even amusing. A section deals with fraudulent-appearing medications and the manner in which "free offers" can morph into luring in captive customers. So take a few minutes to look it over. -- _______________________________________________ NEW! 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The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From gary@garysicecream.com Sun Mar 20 17:19:01 2005 From: gary@garysicecream.com (Gary's Ice Cream) Date: Sun Mar 20 17:19:30 2005 Subject: Uncle Gus Dead At 85 In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.0.20050320142455.048ac9f0@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <200503202219.j2KMJFaZ062666@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> I'm betting that "New Hampshire Chronicle" does a story on him some night this week. -g -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Scott Fybush Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 2:29 PM To: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net; BRI Subject: Re: Uncle Gus Dead At 85 At 12:07 PM 3/20/2005, rogerkirk wrote: >According to the Union Leader/New Hampshire Sunday News: > >"'Uncle Gus' Bernier, the TV friend of a generation of New Hampshire >children in the 1960s and '70s, died peacefully in his sleep yesterday >at his home in Hawaii." > >A detailed and quite lengthy story at: > >http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showa.html?article=52209 > >Channel 9's Web Site "www.TheWMURChannel.com" managed to devote a >whopping FIVE sentences in an AP wire headline halfway down the page - >below "Unlicensed Crematorium" and "M.E. Fraud" stories, but above the >"Pedestrian Accident" headline. So much for heritage, local coverage >and in-depth reporting. In fairness, it's a weekend and WMUR is probably lightly staffed. I don't know what time the story moved last night, but I'd bet that WMUR didn't have it in time to do anything much for their 6 or 11 shows on Saturday night, which means the next chance they'll get is at 6 or 11 tonight. I'd hope like heck that something more substantive shows up on the web after that. (If they're anything like most small TV newsrooms, the website content comes out of the on-air product, and if there's no weekend morning news, there's no web update, either.) The Union Leader, if it's anything like most newspapers (which it isn't, but I digress :-) maintains a "morgue" file, and I'd bet that their lengthy article was already sitting there written and ready to roll. Most broadcast outlets lack the staff or the level of advance planning needed to have such material ready. (Though I did see a stack of carts atop a filing cabinet at CBS News when I visited last month that included a Dick Cheney obit...) s From markwats@comcast.net Sun Mar 20 17:47:48 2005 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sun Mar 20 17:48:02 2005 Subject: Uncle Gus Dead At 85 References: <200503201207.AA1599406258@mail.ttlc.net> <6.0.1.1.0.20050320142455.048ac9f0@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <00a401c52d9e$d9aa8180$6f918318@Mark> Scott Fybush wrote: > In fairness, it's a weekend and WMUR is probably lightly staffed. I don't > know what time the story moved last night, but I'd bet that WMUR didn't > have it in time to do anything much for their 6 or 11 shows on Saturday > night, which means the next chance they'll get is at 6 or 11 tonight. > The Union Leader, if it's anything like most newspapers (which it isn't, > but I digress :-) maintains a "morgue" file, and I'd bet that their > lengthy article was already sitting there written and ready to roll. The NH Sunday News article said that Gus was discovered dead around 8:45 Saturday morning Hawaii time, which would be 3:45 PM Manchester time. Allowing for time for their 4 children (1 of whom resides in New Durham NH) and other relatives to be notified, I would say the word of Gus' passing got to WMUR & the Union Leader/ Sunday News sometime Saturday evening. I agree with Scott that the newspaper probably had the prepared story ready to go, all they had to do was fill in the when/where/how blanks, plus add in any comments/additional info not already in the "morgue" piece. As far as WMUR goes, I thought they had a Sunday morning newscast, although I can't find out for sure in TV Guide as Sunday listings start at 9 AM. They don't have a Noon newscast on Sundays, so I'll have to tune in at 6 PM to see how they cover Gus' passing. I would think that the news staff would be able to access the tape library (even on a weekend) to grab some highlights of the Uncle Gus segment that was a part of WMUR's 50th anniversary special that aired last year. They had an interview with Gus that was taped in his home in Hawaii. Some or all of that segment could be used as part of their report. After all, he was probably the most popular TV personality ever in New Hampshire. It made the headlines on the NH Sunday News front page, I would think it will be top story on WMUR's 6 PM news tonight (barring anything else major breaking). Mark Watson From markwats@comcast.net Sun Mar 20 18:16:48 2005 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Sun Mar 20 18:17:00 2005 Subject: Uncle Gus Dead At 85 References: <200503202219.j2KMJFaZ062666@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <00b001c52da2$e6def350$6f918318@Mark> Gary Francis wrote: > I'm betting that "New Hampshire Chronicle" does a story on him some night > this week. Uncle Gus was the top story on WMUR's 6 PM news, they devoted 8 minutes to reporting on his passing and his legacy in NH television, including interviews with Dwight Damon, who played Ring-A-Ding the Clown and appeared frequently on the Uncle Gus Show, and former WMUR station manager Tom Bonnar. Also, clips of the interview with Gus from the WMUR 50th anniversary special were shown along with the rare film clips of the Uncle Gus Show. Mark Watson From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Sun Mar 20 19:50:19 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Sun Mar 20 19:50:34 2005 Subject: Uncle Gus Dead At 85 Message-ID: <200503201950.AA1566638304@mail.ttlc.net> "Mark Watson" wrote: > Uncle Gus was the top story on WMUR's 6 PM news, they devoted >8 minutes to reporting on his passing and his legacy in NH television, >including interviews with Dwight Damon, who played Ring-A-Ding the >Clown and appeared frequently on the Uncle Gus Show, and former WMUR >station manager Tom Bonnar. Also, clips of the interview with Gus from >the WMUR 50th anniversary special were shown along with the rare film >clips of the Uncle Gus Show. Web Site has not changed in this regard. Still only a 5-sentence AP wire story w/no pictures. From scott@fybush.com Sun Mar 20 20:24:48 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Sun Mar 20 20:24:59 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading In-Reply-To: <20050320205609.99A7F86B0F@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050320205609.99A7F86B0F@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20050320201458.04906008@gwind.pair.com> >It appears the thread moved to a general discussion of just talk radio; >the point is that I wanted to make the "Host" article available to all >and for people to discuss it. It wouldn't be fair to >the Atlantic to keep just this website a portal to theatlantic.com >forever, so in about 24 hours, I'll disable the log-in 'bostonradio' >and return it to the the password I had been using . It took about a >half-hour to read the body of the article in the print version >(in the smallest room of my house) not including the >side-bars, which in part are very informative and even amusing. >A section deals with fraudulent-appearing medications and >the manner in which "free offers" can morph into luring >in captive customers. So take a few minutes to look it over. As an Atlantic subscriber, I read the David Foster Wallace article the night my April issue arrived. I suppose it might have been more interesting for people who've never spent significant time inside a radio station. For those of us who have, most of Wallace's "revelations" (radio stations are dirty and messy, etc.) were less than revealing. And Wallace's cutesy use of footnotes-upon-footnotes gets tired quickly - at least for me. For me, it also felt a little dated - having visited the *new* KFI studios last October on a Los Angeles trip, reading about the station's old Koreatown digs, vacated almost a year ago, felt somewhat archaeological. That said, I'd certainly recommend the article as a good, if somewhat self-absorbed, eye-opener for anyone who hasn't spent much time within the world of talk radio. s From billo@shoreham.net Sun Mar 20 20:53:24 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Sun Mar 20 20:53:55 2005 Subject: Uncle Gus Dead At 85 In-Reply-To: <00b001c52da2$e6def350$6f918318@Mark> References: <200503202219.j2KMJFaZ062666@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <00b001c52da2$e6def350$6f918318@Mark> Message-ID: <423E2914.10902@shoreham.net> Mark Watson wrote: > Also, clips of the interview with Gus from the WMUR 50th anniversary > special were shown along with the rare film clips of the Uncle Gus Show. Any footage of Gus with the low-tech U.S. map? He'd select a kid to come up and answer the name of states as he would point to them. I forget the details, but once a kid got one wrong, "Boink!" as he would gently tap the cardboard map on their noggin. Good stuff. I always enjoyed Uncle Gus, with most of my viewing between 1966 to 1972 or so, growing up in Dracut. That, along with Rex (Trailer), Captain (Bob Keeshan) Kangaroo, Romper Room with Miss Jean (Harrington), and an aging black & white Magnavox with a box of tubes at the ready and we were good to go. Bill O'Neill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005 From kc1ih@mac.com Sun Mar 20 21:39:26 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Sun Mar 20 21:39:42 2005 Subject: Uncle Gus Dead At 85 In-Reply-To: <200503201950.AA1566638304@mail.ttlc.net> References: <200503201950.AA1566638304@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: At 7:50 PM -0500 3/20/05, rogerkirk wrote: > >Web Site has not changed in this regard. Still only a 5-sentence AP >wire story w/no pictures. The webmasters at most TV stations work a Mon-Fri schedule. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Mar 20 23:44:44 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Mar 20 23:45:02 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading In-Reply-To: <000a01c52d1c$2fefb520$1404fea9@xyz> Message-ID: <423E0AEC.7994.660BCE@localhost> On 20 Mar 2005 at 2:12, Joseph Pappalardo wrote: > The Republicans were crying for a 'line item veto' when they were in > the minority, and now they are not too interested in it now that they > are in the majority. > > And now we have heard Democrats saying it's time for the 'line item > veto'. As a matter of fact, many Democrats were in favor of a line item veto, and Clinton was one of them. Trouble is, they didn't have the votes to make it a constitutional amendment, and when they tried to do it by legislation, it was thrown out by the courts. I think a line item veto, which most governors have, is a good idea. > I figure we can't complain about the "other" party, when "our" party > does the same things. Agreed. So does this mean you agree that the Republicans should shut up about the Democrats' blocking of a few of Bush's judicial appointments, since they blocked so many more of Clintons? > Gee, they put a liberal on, and you don't even like that! ;-) Just > can't keep you guys happy! ;-) If Colmes acted like more than a stooge for Hanity, I might be happier. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Mar 20 23:44:44 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Mar 20 23:45:06 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050320093253.01b75ee8@pop3.grolen.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050319201858.0b0fc2c0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <423E0AEC.830.660C31@localhost> On 20 Mar 2005 at 9:41, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Yes you are exaggerating a bit, but you certainly have a valid point. > When the left shrieks about the "right wing media", talk radio seems > to be what they're referring to (I don't have cable and have never > seen Fox news so I can't comment about that). I certainly don't > consider the major networks overly conservative. They're not overtly conservative, but they have cut back on a lot of coverage and generally back the official line, more than they ever used to. And certainly more than when the official line was coming from a Democratic-controlled White House. > My problem with Air Amerikka and the so-called "progressive" talk > genre is that it's merely a left-slanted version of Rush, O'Reilly > and others of their ilk. I can't speak about every program, but where Rush and O'Reilly blatantly lie, I believe that Al Franken is very careful to research his facts and get them right. He even brings conservatives on his show and has discussions with them. And while I think Stephanie Miller is a bit shrill at times (and may not be so careful to get the facts right), she takes pride in not cutting off callers who disagree with her. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Mar 20 23:44:45 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Mar 20 23:45:25 2005 Subject: Uncle Gus Dead At 85 In-Reply-To: <200503201207.AA1599406258@mail.ttlc.net> Message-ID: <423E0AED.11749.660CDB@localhost> On 20 Mar 2005 at 12:07, rogerkirk wrote: > "'Uncle Gus' Bernier, the TV friend of a generation of > New Hampshire children in the 1960s and ?70s, died > peacefully in his sleep yesterday at his home in Hawaii." I remember him. Sometime in the early 1970s, when I was working at Brookline Town Hall, I used to get home shortly after 5:00 PM, and I would often turn on Channel 9 while getting my dinner. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Mar 20 23:44:45 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Mar 20 23:45:28 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050320094726.01b75da0@pop3.grolen.com> References: <423CBA29.13587.7AC0F4@localhost> Message-ID: <423E0AED.6356.660C8B@localhost> On 20 Mar 2005 at 9:49, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > So why then do the libtalkers position themselves "progressive" talk > and not "liberal" talk? The words are not synonymous by any stretch > of the imagination. Same reason..."liberal" and "right wing" have > become negative images. As I think Garrett pointed out awhile ago, "progressive" is the historical name for that particular set of political beliefs. It came to be called "liberal" for some reason at the time of the New Deal, but "liberal," historically, has meant something else. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From ssmyth@psu.edu Mon Mar 21 02:54:59 2005 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Mon Mar 21 02:55:03 2005 Subject: Somewhat OT: recording software Message-ID: <200503210754.CAA25129@webmail12.cac.psu.edu> I'm transferring some of old radio programs (from about 10 years ago... the cassette tapes are starting to wear down) from cassette to hard drive, with the intent of burning them onto CD. I was planning on simply playing said tapes, using a 1/8-inch cable running from the headphone jack of the tape player into my PC's input jack, recording them on the PC, and subsequently burning onto CD. 1. Is there a better way of doing this? 2. What software do I need to get to handle the recording part? Typical Windows Sound Recorder only snags 60-second bites. Can I get any freeware/shareware to accomplish this? Feel free to reply off-list. TIA. From news@southstation.org Mon Mar 21 07:57:49 2005 From: news@southstation.org (Larry Lovering) Date: Mon Mar 21 07:58:08 2005 Subject: Somewhat OT: recording software In-Reply-To: <200503210754.CAA25129@webmail12.cac.psu.edu> Message-ID: <20050321125754.PBBZ28448.lakermmtao09.cox.net@main> One way is to install a cassette deck in your computer: http://www.saveateagle.com/plusdeck2-n.html?ovchn=OTHER&ovcpn=Froogle&ovcrn= PLUSDECK2-N&ovtac=CMP The other is the way you describe, using one of many freeware and low cost recording programs. Check zdnet.com's download section. -Larry Lovering The Radio Workshop > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of Sean Smyth > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:55 AM > To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Subject: Somewhat OT: recording software > > I'm transferring some of old radio programs (from about 10 > years ago... the cassette tapes are starting to wear down) > from cassette to hard drive, with the intent of burning them onto CD. > > I was planning on simply playing said tapes, using a 1/8-inch > cable running from the headphone jack of the tape player into > my PC's input jack, recording them on the PC, and > subsequently burning onto CD. > > 1. Is there a better way of doing this? > 2. What software do I need to get to handle the recording > part? Typical Windows Sound Recorder only snags 60-second > bites. Can I get any freeware/shareware to accomplish this? > > Feel free to reply off-list. > > TIA. > > From rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net Mon Mar 21 09:58:52 2005 From: rogerkirk@mail.ttlc.net (rogerkirk) Date: Mon Mar 21 09:58:56 2005 Subject: Uncle Gus Dead At 85 Message-ID: <200503210958.AA1679360226@mail.ttlc.net> rogerkirk wrote: >>Web Site has not changed in this regard. Still only a 5-sentence AP >>wire story w/no pictures. Larry Weil responded: >The webmasters at most TV stations work a Mon-Fri schedule. Updated at 9:32 last night. Story moved to the top line of local stories in middle of the page - above the unlicensed crematorium. Content re-written. Now up to SIX sentences. Their logo says it all: "No One Covers New Hampshire Like We Do." From lglavin@lycos.com Mon Mar 21 16:53:33 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Mon Mar 21 16:53:52 2005 Subject: Recommended Reading Message-ID: <20050321215333.62257CA06F@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Scott Fybush" >To: "Laurence Glavin" , SteveOrdinetz , bri@bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: Recommended Reading >Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:24:48 -0500 > > As an Atlantic subscriber, I read the David Foster Wallace article > the night my April issue arrived. > Then you're aware that "Letters to the Editor" about a given article appear the second month after the original printing, so I'm looking forward to the comments readers offer in the June issue...especially 'general' readers. I suspect that a letter or two may be from radio "professionals". BTW, access to atlantic.com is no longer available using 'bostonradio'. -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Tue Mar 22 00:34:25 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue Mar 22 00:35:06 2005 Subject: Somewhat OT: recording software In-Reply-To: <200503210754.CAA25129@webmail12.cac.psu.edu> Message-ID: <423F6811.4247.73967B@localhost> On 21 Mar 2005 at 2:54, Sean Smyth wrote: > 1. Is there a better way of doing this? > 2. What software do I need to get to handle the recording part? > Typical Windows Sound Recorder only snags 60-second bites. Can I get > any freeware/shareware to accomplish this? > > Feel free to reply off-list. Actually, I wish people would reply on list because I'd like to know, too. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Tue Mar 22 03:02:09 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue Mar 22 03:02:28 2005 Subject: Somewhat OT: recording software Message-ID: <20050322080209.2909639B1@mprdmxin.myway.com> I have AR Wizard 3 ($30) which enables you to tape for as long as you want from any source (radio, portable CD player, DVD, turntable, etc.) The trial version gives you 90 seconds, but no limit for the pay version. And you can hit the schedule button and set it to tape a certain show at a certain time (and get it to shut off the computer when done, if desired) http://www.recordaudio.net --- On Tue 03/22, A. Joseph Ross < lawyer@attorneyross.com > wrote: From: A. Joseph Ross [mailto: lawyer@attorneyross.com] To: ssmyth@psu.edu Cc: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:34:25 -0500 Subject: Re: Somewhat OT: recording software On 21 Mar 2005 at 2:54, Sean Smyth wrote:

> 1. Is there a better way of doing this?
> 2. What software do I need to get to handle the recording part?
> Typical Windows Sound Recorder only snags 60-second bites. Can I get
> any freeware/shareware to accomplish this?
>
> Feel free to reply off-list.

Actually, I wish people would reply on list because I'd like to know, too.

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A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468
15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com
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Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From rickkelly@gmail.com Tue Mar 22 06:50:28 2005 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Tue Mar 22 06:50:40 2005 Subject: Somewhat OT: recording software In-Reply-To: <20050322080209.2909639B1@mprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20050322080209.2909639B1@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <521b7fd105032203508a46162@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:02:09 -0500 (EST), Bob Nelson wrote: > > I have AR Wizard 3 ($30) which enables you to tape for as long as you want from any source (radio, portable CD player, DVD, turntable, etc.) The trial version gives you 90 seconds, but no limit for the pay version. > > And you can hit the schedule button and set it to tape a certain show at a certain time (and get it to shut off the computer when done, if desired) > > http://www.recordaudio.net I replied to Sean off list, but for the entire list you can download Audacity at audacity.com. Pretty competent recording software. It's free. -Rick Kelly From hykker@grolen.com Tue Mar 22 07:15:04 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Tue Mar 22 07:14:54 2005 Subject: Somewhat OT: recording software In-Reply-To: <521b7fd105032203508a46162@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050322080209.2909639B1@mprdmxin.myway.com> <521b7fd105032203508a46162@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050322071324.01aead90@pop3.grolen.com> Rick Kelly wrote: >I replied to Sean off list, but for the entire list you can download >Audacity at audacity.com. Pretty competent recording software. It's >free. Wasn't there a free version of CoolEdit around at one time? Wouldn't let you do the fancy stuff that you could do with the full version, but it would play & record. Dunno if it still exists now that Adobe owns it. From news@southstation.org Tue Mar 22 08:49:48 2005 From: news@southstation.org (Larry Lovering) Date: Tue Mar 22 08:50:05 2005 Subject: Somewhat OT: recording software In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050322071324.01aead90@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <20050322134953.VPKA3789.lakermmtao05.cox.net@main> Syntrillium was bought by Adobe, and all they kept was the Cool Edit Pro program, which became $300 Adobe Audition. Cool Edit 2000 was never free, it cost $69 as shareware. It was crippled for certain functions if you didn't register it. -Larry Lovering The Radio Workshop > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of SteveOrdinetz > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 7:15 AM > To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Subject: Re: Somewhat OT: recording software > > Rick Kelly wrote: > >I replied to Sean off list, but for the entire list you can download > >Audacity at audacity.com. Pretty competent recording software. It's > >free. > > > Wasn't there a free version of CoolEdit around at one time? > Wouldn't let you do the fancy stuff that you could do with > the full version, but it would play & record. Dunno if it > still exists now that Adobe owns it. > > From pete@partnercomm.com Tue Mar 22 09:54:39 2005 From: pete@partnercomm.com (Peter Murray) Date: Tue Mar 22 09:55:15 2005 Subject: Somewhat OT: recording software In-Reply-To: <20050322134953.VPKA3789.lakermmtao05.cox.net@main> References: <20050322134953.VPKA3789.lakermmtao05.cox.net@main> Message-ID: <424031AF.7040703@partnercomm.com> Larry Lovering wrote: >Syntrillium was bought by Adobe, and all they kept was the Cool Edit Pro >program, which became $300 Adobe Audition. Cool Edit 2000 was never free, >it cost $69 as shareware. It was crippled for certain functions if you >didn't register it. > >-Larry Lovering >The Radio Workshop > > I have had excellent results with GoldWave. Current versions are available at http://www.goldwave.com. Not too crippled, but registration is not too expensive anyway (about US$45). -Peter From ka1mvk@gmail.com Mon Mar 21 19:33:55 2005 From: ka1mvk@gmail.com (Andy Soule) Date: Tue Mar 22 14:11:40 2005 Subject: New Maine AM? References: <20050308033313.3A1A6D6B1@smtpout-3202.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <003c01c52e76$d63c1e90$9865fea9@scoobydoo2> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod O'Connor" Subject: Re: New Maine AM? > Actually all sorts of good stuff on that site...check it out.. go to > FCC.gov, click on Media bureau on right side of homepage, then scroll down > the menus on left for AM Query, FM Query or TV Query. > > Rod O'Connor > Southwest Harbor, Maine > It is much easier to find things in there now, for sure, but beware, the FCC database is notoriously full of errors. Andy Soule From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Tue Mar 22 14:25:21 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Tue Mar 22 14:26:09 2005 Subject: Jingle Fans Message-ID: <001e01c52f14$ef4d5040$1404fea9@xyz> Jingle fans might like this site: http://www.jingles.org/mpf/mpfaudio.html Especially: DRAKE CHENAULT "Rum Pum Session" 1969 Out Takes Here is a portion of the session take recorded during the 1969 Drake Chenault session that produced the famous Rum Pum jingles. Drake is heard coaching Hal Blain, member of the famous Los Angeles "wrecking crew". It's the second one down. Most will recall these I'm sure! JP From lspin@comcast.net Tue Mar 22 20:47:02 2005 From: lspin@comcast.net (Lou) Date: Tue Mar 22 20:47:22 2005 Subject: Somewhat OT: recording software In-Reply-To: <423F6811.4247.73967B@localhost> Message-ID: <200503230147.j2N1lJaZ087125@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> I replied with the suggestion to use "Power MP3 Recorder," by Cooolsoft. It allows direct recording to MP3 or WAV. MP3 is great for copying old broadcast recordings. It costs $20 to register, but allows limited use without registration. http://www.cooolsoft.com/mp3rec.htm -Lou -----Original Message----- From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of A. Joseph Ross Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 12:34 AM To: Sean Smyth Cc: bRI Subject: Re: Somewhat OT: recording software On 21 Mar 2005 at 2:54, Sean Smyth wrote: > 1. Is there a better way of doing this? > 2. What software do I need to get to handle the recording part? > Typical Windows Sound Recorder only snags 60-second bites. Can I get > any freeware/shareware to accomplish this? > > Feel free to reply off-list. Actually, I wish people would reply on list because I'd like to know, too. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Wed Mar 23 00:30:52 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Wed Mar 23 00:31:45 2005 Subject: Somewhat OT: recording software In-Reply-To: <521b7fd105032203508a46162@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050322080209.2909639B1@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <4240B8BC.1588.4D9441@localhost> On 22 Mar 2005 at 6:50, Rick Kelly wrote: > I replied to Sean off list, but for the entire list you can download > Audacity at audacity.com. Pretty competent recording software. It's > free. Thanks. But I went to that site and found a company that provides janitorial services and has a large banner which says that they don't make audio software. Fortunately, they have a link to the people who do. The correct URL is http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ . -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From mailinator711@yahoo.com Tue Mar 22 14:52:17 2005 From: mailinator711@yahoo.com (_) Date: Wed Mar 23 08:25:39 2005 Subject: Somewhat OT: recording software Message-ID: <20050322195217.88965.qmail@web54407.mail.yahoo.com> You should definetely try WavePad http://www.nch.com.au/wavepad/ It's free, and it is very very simple. The only problem with this is that it records to a "wav" file temporarily. So an hour's worth of audio is uncompressed and can be approx 600mb or so. You can use the software to compress to mp3 after you've stopped recording though. It's worth a try. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Sign up for Fantasy Baseball. http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/ From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Thu Mar 24 16:23:08 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Thu Mar 24 16:23:44 2005 Subject: Tony Pepper / Lester Strong Message-ID: <0e3801c530b7$b12d1f80$1404fea9@xyz> Does anyone have contact information for Lester Strong and Tony Pepper? Thanks! You can reply off-list if you want. JP From markwats@comcast.net Fri Mar 25 17:34:39 2005 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Fri Mar 25 17:34:51 2005 Subject: WLLH Lowell Transmitter Off The Air Again Message-ID: <009c01c5318a$d7c6e030$6f918318@Mark> The WLLH (1400 Lowell/Lawrence) Lowell transmitter appears to have been off the air since Monday March 14th. A few months ago it was off the air for several days due to STL problems. Have the STL problems resurfaced, or is it some other problem? Mark Watson From lawyer@attorneyross.com Fri Mar 25 23:21:35 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Fri Mar 25 23:22:03 2005 Subject: Tab article on Air America Radio Message-ID: <42449CFF.18513.710916@localhost> This week's Tab has an article on Air America Radio. They're about to celebrate their first anniversary on 31 March, and they say they hope to be in the black around the end of the year or beginning of next year. http://www2.townonline.com/entertainment/view.bg?articleid=207748 -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Mar 26 01:34:10 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat Mar 26 01:34:24 2005 Subject: Tab article on Air America Radio References: <42449CFF.18513.710916@localhost> Message-ID: <000701c531cd$d1d103c0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Joseph Ross" To: Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 11:21 PM Subject: Tab article on Air America Radio > This week's Tab has an article on Air America Radio. They're about to > celebrate their first > anniversary on 31 March, and they say they hope to be in the black around > the end of the > year or beginning of next year. And they've add Jerry Springer to their line-up! Nothing like classing up the joint. From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Mar 26 07:12:46 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat Mar 26 07:12:49 2005 Subject: Tab article on Air America Radio References: <42449CFF.18513.710916@localhost> <000701c531cd$d1d103c0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <002701c531fd$24063280$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Springer's radio program is not in any way salacious or titillating. It even has some commendable aspects; unlike some other progressive talk hosts (especially Ed Schultz and Stephanie Miller), Springer does not focus on getting the maximum number of callers on the air each hour. As a result, Springer allows callers enough time to develop their points. That said, Springer's program is, in my opinion, some of the dullest radio I've ever heard. I've heard only occasional reruns of "Unfiltered," the Lesbian show that AAR is ditching to free up time for Springer. My impression is that that show was marginally less dull than Springer's, although it too was pretty dull. In my opinion, the AAR talent who deserves wider exposure is Mike Malloy. He is often riveting and he pulls no punches about his hatred for Bush et al. WKOXKS carries, at most, only a couple of hours a week of Malloy reruns. Springer's show will air live on AAR opposite Miller's, which is distributed by Jones. Rumor had it a month or so ago, that Miller's program had the best ratings of any show on WKOXKS. That means that if the Boston-area stations are going to carry Springer, they will probably do so on delay. My recommendation would be to place Springer in the 1:00 AM to 4:00 AM slot--replacing Al Franken reruns. I'd also like to hear WKOX give the heave-ho to Majority Report, which they carry on delay from 10:00 PM to 1:00 AM, and replace it with the live feed of Malloy. Janine Garafalo and Sam Seder often try mightily and they are slowly improving, but in my opinion, they aren't yet ready for prime time. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Billings" To: "A. Joseph Ross" ; Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 1:34 AM Subject: Re: Tab article on Air America Radio > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A. Joseph Ross" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 11:21 PM > Subject: Tab article on Air America Radio > > > > This week's Tab has an article on Air America Radio. They're about to > > celebrate their first > > anniversary on 31 March, and they say they hope to be in the black around > > the end of the > > year or beginning of next year. > > And they've add Jerry Springer to their line-up! Nothing like classing up > the joint. > > From hykker@grolen.com Sat Mar 26 08:14:14 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sat Mar 26 08:14:18 2005 Subject: Tab article on Air America Radio In-Reply-To: <002701c531fd$24063280$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <42449CFF.18513.710916@localhost> <000701c531cd$d1d103c0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <002701c531fd$24063280$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050326075919.01b99010@pop3.grolen.com> Dan Strassberg wrote: >Springer's radio program is not in any way salacious or titillating. My >impression is that >that show was marginally less dull than Springer's, although it too was >pretty dull. Haven't heard him yet, but he can't be much duller than Franken. Alas, he (Franken) is AA's sole "name" act so I doubt he's going anywhere. >In my opinion, the AAR talent who deserves wider exposure is >Mike Malloy. He is often riveting and he pulls no punches about his hatred >for Bush et al. WKOXKS carries, at most, only a couple of hours a week of >Malloy reruns. And this makes good radio how? Other than the die-hard Bush haters, aren't most people totally sick of politics and flaming rants about Iraq? If AA wants to make any significant impact, they're gonna have to appeal to moderates and/or thinking people instead of just the "Bush sucks" crowd. This means cooling the inflammatory rhetoric and discussing topics where they're not totally preaching to the choir? Is AA trying to be a left-wing version of Salem? Bad radio is bad radio. From dan.strassberg@att.net Sat Mar 26 08:50:12 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Sat Mar 26 08:50:32 2005 Subject: Tab article on Air America Radio References: <42449CFF.18513.710916@localhost><000701c531cd$d1d103c0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af><002701c531fd$24063280$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <6.0.3.0.0.20050326075919.01b99010@pop3.grolen.com> Message-ID: <000b01c5320a$cd1e3d60$19eefea9@dstrassberg> If you heard Malloy, although I can't imagine you'd agree with him, you might just think his show is GOOD radio. I find it absolutely compelling! Now, part of that is because I agree with him, but he is not simply anti-Bush; he is anti the entire Republican establishment and everything it stands for. And BTW, Fox News seems to be doing just fine with a slate of right wingnuts who are no less extreme on the right than Malloy is on the left. I say "seems to be" because I don't have cable, so I can't watch Fox news, nor would I. My impressions of Fox News are based on what I've heard about it, not what I've seen of it. But remember, the number of left-of-center people in the nation is almost equal to the number of right-of-center people. (Some say the number left of center is greater than the number of right-of-center, but that doesn't have to be true for me to make my point.) You don't have to have a product that appeals to 100% of the population to have a commercially viable product. Salem's talk product probably appeals to only 20% or so of the population. Even so, I would be surprised if Salem's talk network isn't already making money. My impression is that Salem is a very well managed company. Maybe they are willing to support the talk network even if it loses money because they feel that the message is so important, but I suspect that making money is a top priority. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "SteveOrdinetz" To: Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 8:14 AM Subject: Re: Tab article on Air America Radio > Dan Strassberg wrote: > >Springer's radio program is not in any way salacious or titillating. My > >impression is that > >that show was marginally less dull than Springer's, although it too was > >pretty dull. > > > Haven't heard him yet, but he can't be much duller than Franken. Alas, he > (Franken) is AA's sole "name" act so I doubt he's going anywhere. > > >In my opinion, the AAR talent who deserves wider exposure is > >Mike Malloy. He is often riveting and he pulls no punches about his hatred > >for Bush et al. WKOXKS carries, at most, only a couple of hours a week of > >Malloy reruns. > > > And this makes good radio how? Other than the die-hard Bush haters, aren't > most people totally sick of politics and flaming rants about Iraq? If AA > wants to make any significant impact, they're gonna have to appeal to > moderates and/or thinking people instead of just the "Bush sucks" > crowd. This means cooling the inflammatory rhetoric and discussing topics > where they're not totally preaching to the choir? Is AA trying to be a > left-wing version of Salem? Bad radio is bad radio. > From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Mar 26 12:59:31 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat Mar 26 12:59:41 2005 Subject: Tab article on Air America Radio References: <42449CFF.18513.710916@localhost><000701c531cd$d1d103c0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af><002701c531fd$24063280$19eefea9@dstrassberg><6.0.3.0.0.20050326075919.01b99010@pop3.grolen.com> <000b01c5320a$cd1e3d60$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <000a01c5322d$90266680$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Strassberg" To: ; "SteveOrdinetz" Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 8:50 AM Subject: Re: Tab article on Air America Radio > And BTW, Fox News seems to be doing just fine with a slate of > right wingnuts who are no less extreme on the right than Malloy is on the > left. I say "seems to be" because I don't have cable, so I can't watch Fox > news, nor would I. My impressions of Fox News are based on what I've heard > about it, not what I've seen of it. Fox has three nightly talk shows: O'Reilly is right of center, but not an ideological conservative. He has liberal views on many issues. Hanity and Colmes is hosted by a liberal and a conservative. Greta keeps her opinions to herself more than she did on CNN, but when she was there, it was clear she was a liberal. From dlh@donnahalper.com Sat Mar 26 13:24:26 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Sat Mar 26 13:25:34 2005 Subject: Tab article on Air America Radio In-Reply-To: <000a01c5322d$90266680$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> References: <42449CFF.18513.710916@localhost> <000701c531cd$d1d103c0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <002701c531fd$24063280$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <6.0.3.0.0.20050326075919.01b99010@pop3.grolen.com> <000b01c5320a$cd1e3d60$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050326131059.02388208@pop.registeredsite.com> >Dan B wrote-- >O'Reilly is right of center, but not an ideological conservative. He has >liberal views on many issues. HUH????? I've listened and watched him off an on, and while he claims to have liberal views, I have never heard him do anything other than inflame his audience over right-wing conservative culture war issues, and he follows the Bush/Republican party line faithfully. Btw, let's not let this conversation deteriorate into whether somebody is good or bad based on their ideology. Ratings for Fox and for Limbaugh show that for whatever reason, people will listen to and accept a steady diet of one-sided rhetoric. It will be interesting to see whether the liberal talk hosts like Stephanie Miller, Ed Schultz, Randi Rhodes and Al Franken-- and even Jerry Springer, whose new talk show is getting a push for (of all people) Clear Channel) establish themselves and make any impact. In some markets, they do seem to be getting good numbers already, although it's still early and it took right wing talk hosts several years to get big numbers. Also, many AA afiliates are on stations with awful signals-- I've mentioned that at night you can't get WXKS or WKOX anywhere south of Boston, for example, and out in Western Mass the supposed AA affiliate (WHMP) only carries 2 AA shows, and carries them on delay. When that changes, we'll see what people think of their programs. But Dan B is right-- the key is for them to be entertaining. Keep in mind though, all you friendly right-wingers on this list, that just as the right loves to beat up on its favourite whipping boys and girls (like Hillary and Bill Clinton), so the left too has a large number of frustrated and disillusioned people who want the chance to beat up on Bush or DeLay or whoever. People whose ideology is different from that of the host may not find Bush-bashing entertaining, but I can assure you, for many many people who felt excluded from talk radio for a long time (9 out of 10 talk shows were right-wing conservative till last year), they are enjoying hearing somebody speak to the left wing and liberal issues. I think there's a niche for it, but yes I do agree that anger alone won't sustain these stations. Let's see how much of an activist voice they can be and how much they can contribute to the other side of the issues being presented on talk radio, rather than the continued dominance of only right wing opinions. I think there's a need for both sides, and that's why as a listener who identifies as a moderate, I am willing to give AA and Democracy Radio a chance to work out their growing pains and see what they can achieve. I don't like extreme rhetoric, no matter who is doing it. But I understand how much pent up frustration people on the left have had for years about how talk radio was dominated by the Limbaughs and Savages and O'Reillys and when the right said something that was not entirely true, there was no way to respond. Now, there is. I'll be watching the ratings to see if that translates into any numbers. From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Mar 26 13:58:02 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Mar 26 13:58:12 2005 Subject: WLLH Lowell Transmitter Off The Air Again Message-ID: <20050326185802.69BB486B0F@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mark Watson" >To: "Boston Radio" >Subject: WLLH Lowell Transmitter Off The Air Again >Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:34:39 -0500 > > The WLLH (1400 Lowell/Lawrence) Lowell transmitter appears to > have been off the air since Monday March 14th. A few months ago it > was off the air for several days due to STL problems. Have the STL > problems resurfaced, or is it some other problem? > > Mark Watson Since MARCH FOURTEENTH? I wish you had posted earlier...I did a little test of the Lawrence transmitter a few months ago when the sun was lower in the sky. I'm going down the the Waltham Embassy theater later today (to see "Downfall", a movie about Hitler's final days; the History Channel is never enough). I'll do a dipsy-doodle of 93 south to 495 west to route 3 south to see if WLLH/Lowell is still off. -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Mar 26 14:06:29 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Mar 26 14:06:44 2005 Subject: Tab article on Air America Radio Message-ID: <20050326190629.6752486B0F@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dan Strassberg" >To: "Daniel Billings" , "A. Joseph Ross" , >bri@bostonradio.org >Subject: Re: Tab article on Air America Radio >Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 07:12:46 -0500 > I'd also like to hear WKOX give > the heave-ho to Majority Report, which they carry on delay from 10:00 PM to > 1:00 AM, and replace it with the live feed of Malloy. Janine Garafalo and > Sam Seder often try mightily and they are slowly improving, but in my > opinion, they aren't yet ready for prime time. > > -- > Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net > eFax 707-215-6367 > I can't hear either WXKS-AM ot WKOX at night where I live, but I've listened to the Garofalo/Seder show when I've been on the highway at night, and like some other AirAmerica shows, it's similar to NPR/WBUR shows like "Talk of the Nation', "The Connection" and "On Point". I suspect that it's just fine for its time period, but it would never make it in morning drive. Mark and Mark's show uses humor, guest interviews and calls from more listeners, but even THEY can get PREACHY. -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From lglavin@lycos.com Sat Mar 26 14:12:12 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Sat Mar 26 14:12:20 2005 Subject: Tab article on Air America Radio Message-ID: <20050326191212.D4D7A86B0F@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: SteveOrdinetz To: bri@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: Tab article on Air America Radio Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 08:14:14 -0500 > > Dan Strassberg wrote: > > Springer's radio program is not in any way salacious or > > titillating. My impression is that > > that show was marginally less dull than Springer's, although it too was > > pretty dull. > > > Haven't heard him yet, but he can't be much duller than Franken. > Alas, he (Franken) is AA's sole "name" act so I doubt he's going > anywhere. > I just heard the "Best of Franken" rerun and enjoyed it very much as I always do. I'm a bit p*ss*d that WXKOX now runs a financial show on Saturday mornings so there's only one hour of Franken. One sidebar: B o b E l l i o t t ' s b i r t h d a y w a s t h i s w e e k ...Al mentioned it on his show that was rebroadcast today, and it brought back memories of the great "Bob and Ray" shows of the past. -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From billings@suscom-maine.net Sat Mar 26 15:12:56 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Sat Mar 26 15:13:00 2005 Subject: Tab article on Air America Radio References: <42449CFF.18513.710916@localhost> <000701c531cd$d1d103c0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <002701c531fd$24063280$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <6.0.3.0.0.20050326075919.01b99010@pop3.grolen.com> <000b01c5320a$cd1e3d60$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <5.1.0.14.2.20050326131059.02388208@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <001101c53240$333da1a0$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Halper" To: "Daniel Billings" Cc: Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 1:24 PM Subject: Re: Tab article on Air America Radio > HUH????? I've listened and watched him off an on, and while he claims to > have liberal views, I have never heard him do anything other than inflame > his audience over right-wing conservative culture war issues, and he > follows the Bush/Republican party line faithfully. O'Reilly does play to his audience. But if you listen closely, his real views occassionally slip in. I don't think the guy really believes anything. He is an actor playing a role. "I'm not a conservative, but I play one on TV." I find both O'Reilly and Sean Hannity to be incredibly shallow. I don't think either ever has an original thought. They are working off talking points written by others, IMHO. Has anyone watched Lou Dobbs lately? There is a guy that has seriously gone off the wall. He has turned his show into a platform for his anti-immigration and anti-free trade crusade. > But Dan B is right-- the key is for them to be entertaining. Keep in mind > though, all you friendly right-wingers on this list, that just as the > right loves to beat up on its favourite whipping boys and girls (like > Hillary and Bill Clinton), so the left too has a large number of > frustrated and disillusioned people who want the chance to beat up on Bush > or DeLay or whoever. They key is to be interesting and original. One of the reason's that Rush lasts is that he is both. He does plenty of bashing, but I also often hear him express thoughts and make connections that I do not hear or read elsewhere. I can't say the same about Hannity or O'Reilly. From rickkelly@gmail.com Sat Mar 26 16:12:26 2005 From: rickkelly@gmail.com (Rick Kelly) Date: Sat Mar 26 16:12:38 2005 Subject: Bob Elliot of Bob and Ray (WAS:Tab article on Air America Radio) In-Reply-To: <20050326191212.D4D7A86B0F@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050326191212.D4D7A86B0F@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <521b7fd105032613123362635c@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:12:12 -0500, Laurence Glavin wrote: > B > o > b > > E > l > l > i > o > t > t > ' > s > > b > i > r > t > h > d > a > y > > w > a > s > > t > h > i > s > > w > e > e > k I was able to locate some of their old shows from WHDH, and have been listening to them... it sounds like they were really building their bits and characters at WHDH in the 40's and 50's. Elliot must be in his 80's now, Goulding died years ago. Both guys are gems. -- -Rick Kelly www.northeastairchecks.com From sid@wrko.com Sat Mar 26 16:45:31 2005 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Sat Mar 26 16:46:23 2005 Subject: Bob Elliot of Bob and Ray (WAS:Tab article on Air America Radio) Message-ID: >>Elliot must be in his 80's now, Goulding died years ago. Both guys are gems.<< Larry Josephson, B&R's producer toward the end of Goulding's life, has built a business around selling their old shows. Those which have been transferred to CD are available at his web site, www.bobandray.com. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Mar 26 21:49:40 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Mar 26 21:49:53 2005 Subject: Tab article on Air America Radio In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050326131059.02388208@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <000a01c5322d$90266680$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <4245D8F4.5963.730DBA@localhost> On 26 Mar 2005 at 13:24, Donna Halper wrote: > Also, many AA afiliates are on stations with awful signals-- I've > mentioned that at night you can't get WXKS or WKOX anywhere south > of Boston, for example, But can't you get the Providence station from there? I've been noticing taxi signs promoting Al Franken. If Air America gets some serious numbers on the stations with the bad signals, they may get a chance to move to stronger signals. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sat Mar 26 21:49:40 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sat Mar 26 21:49:57 2005 Subject: Tab article on Air America Radio In-Reply-To: <000a01c5322d$90266680$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> Message-ID: <4245D8F4.12918.730D61@localhost> On 26 Mar 2005 at 12:59, Daniel Billings wrote: > O'Reilly is right of center, but not an ideological conservative. He > has liberal views on many issues. Like what? > Hanity and Colmes is hosted by a liberal and a conservative. It's hosted by a conservative, with a token liberal who mainly nods and agrees. The contract was with Hanity, who got to pick his token liberal. > Greta keeps her opinions to herself more than she did on CNN, but when > she was there, it was clear she was a liberal. Which is why she keeps her opinions to herself. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From hykker@grolen.com Sun Mar 27 08:16:54 2005 From: hykker@grolen.com (SteveOrdinetz) Date: Sun Mar 27 08:16:56 2005 Subject: Tab article on Air America Radio In-Reply-To: <4245D8F4.12918.730D61@localhost> References: <000a01c5322d$90266680$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> <4245D8F4.12918.730D61@localhost> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.0.20050327081036.01b42fd8@pop3.grolen.com> A. Joseph Ross wrote: > > > Greta keeps her opinions to herself more than she did on CNN, but when > > she was there, it was clear she was a liberal. > >Which is why she keeps her opinions to herself. > >-- Or maybe because she's a good journalist. I miss the days when journalists/talk hosts didn't let on what their own views were, or at the very least didn't let them dominate the show...maybe played devil's advocate with a hard-liner, but that's all. I thought it made for much more interesting programming, rather than today's trend toward shoving your viewpoints down the audience's throat (regardless of ideology...right wing idealogues are just as annoying as those on the left). BTW, I never considered CNN to be particularly conservative (which seems to be what you're implying). From lawyer@attorneyross.com Sun Mar 27 22:45:58 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Sun Mar 27 22:46:20 2005 Subject: Tab article on Air America Radio In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.0.20050327081036.01b42fd8@pop3.grolen.com> References: <4245D8F4.12918.730D61@localhost> Message-ID: <424737A6.15225.20E8CCB@localhost> On 27 Mar 2005 at 8:16, SteveOrdinetz wrote: > Or maybe because she's a good journalist. I miss the days when > journalists/talk hosts didn't let on what their own views were, or at > the very least didn't let them dominate the show...maybe played > devil's advocate with a hard-liner, but that's all. If so, she's the only good journalist (in that sense) on Fox News, which constantly slants its coverage to favor the Bush Administration's position. > BTW, I never considered CNN to be particularly conservative (which > seems to be what you're implying). Not like Fox, but there's currently a bias on the part of most of the mainstream media to suck up to officials. -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Mon Mar 28 01:04:35 2005 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Mon Mar 28 01:04:45 2005 Subject: Add 'Ben' to the list of radio station names Message-ID: <20050328060436.87180.qmail@web52607.mail.yahoo.com> For Easter weekend this year I visited some family on Ocean County, NJ and got the chance to scan the dial while I was down there. Sounds like we have another new name to add to the list of station names that are the name of a person. WMWX (95.7) Philadelphia has now branded themselves as 'Ben-FM', with the standard "playing whatever we want" and "the best mix of the 80s, 90s and whatever" imaging that goes with that format. Is it just me, or does this actually sound a bit awkward to anyone else on the list as an on-air name? Matt Osborne Poughkeepsie, NY __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From raccoonradio@myway.com Mon Mar 28 08:43:21 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Mon Mar 28 08:43:45 2005 Subject: Add 'Ben' to the list of radio station names Message-ID: <20050328134321.7A4DD3A21@mprdmxin.myway.com> >> Is it just me, or does this actually sound a bit awkward to anyone else on the list as an on-air name? Not for Philadelphia which fondly remembers Ben Franklin (though the man was originally from Boston, if I recall...) As mentioned elsewhere, don't expect them to get the calls WBEN which are the property of an Entercom station in Buffalo. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From pete@partnercomm.com Mon Mar 28 08:47:25 2005 From: pete@partnercomm.com (Peter Murray) Date: Mon Mar 28 08:47:55 2005 Subject: Add 'Ben' to the list of radio station names In-Reply-To: <20050328060436.87180.qmail@web52607.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050328060436.87180.qmail@web52607.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42480AED.3070805@partnercomm.com> From what I've heard, Ben is a reference to Ben Franklin, which holds special significance to Philadelphians. Here in DC, WRQX "The New Mix 107.3" (105.7 District of Columbia) has just tweaked their "best of the '90s and today" mix to include late '70s and '80s, in the same fashion as the "Ben" and "Jack" stations. I do not believe this play is going to work. 25 years ago, when FM was coming into its own, you had MOR stations that were full-service - and with few alternatives to the radio (cassette/8-track was expensive, no CDs yet), radio stations had a broad spectrum of audience to satisfy, and thus played a far broader spectrum of music than you'd (until recently) usually hear on a typical mid-to-large market radio station. Today's listeners are becoming more accustomed to having the content they know they like available to them on-demand, whether its available to them via solid-state media, rotating media, bitstreamed, or wide-band FM. Wide-as-a-bowling-alley playlists won't provide this, because you are now far more likely to play something that a listener doesn't like - and if they're not willing to wait until the next song, they will switch to another source of content. I'll repeat what I said more than a year ago - terrestrial broadcasting in its current form is entering the end stages of its current existence. Satellite broadcasting will provide a few of the nails in that coffin, but it too will ultimately suffer a similar fate, as it's the same as the terrestrial, but with more available channels and wider coverage area. Packetized, network-based streaming - whether from the listener's collection at home (or an offsite provider), or from another source will be the way non-live content.will come to those requesting it. All we're waiting for is ubiquitous broadband to the mobile user and IPv6. -Peter Peter Murray (N3IXY) Vienna, VA Matthew Osborne wrote: [snip] >Is it just me, or does this actually sound a >bit awkward to anyone else on the list as an on-air >name? > > From dan.strassberg@att.net Mon Mar 28 09:01:12 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Mon Mar 28 09:01:18 2005 Subject: Add 'Ben' to the list of radio station names References: <20050328060436.87180.qmail@web52607.mail.yahoo.com> <42480AED.3070805@partnercomm.com> Message-ID: <002801c5339e$9fab9a40$19eefea9@dstrassberg> It would be interesting if the Philly 95.7 got some new calls that "suggested" Ben--say WBNN, if that's available. That way, the station would have had calls that represented the famous Boston-born Philadelphian's first AND last names. In its classical-music days, the station was WFLN, where FLN was all of FrankLiN that would fit in three letters. (The station wisely avoided another of the possible three-letter combinations ;>) -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Murray" To: Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 8:47 AM Subject: Re: Add 'Ben' to the list of radio station names > From what I've heard, Ben is a reference to Ben Franklin, which holds > special significance to Philadelphians. > > From billo@shoreham.net Mon Mar 28 09:03:42 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill) Date: Mon Mar 28 09:06:38 2005 Subject: Add 'Ben' to the list of radio station names In-Reply-To: <002801c5339e$9fab9a40$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <20050328060436.87180.qmail@web52607.mail.yahoo.com> <42480AED.3070805@partnercomm.com> <002801c5339e$9fab9a40$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <42480EBE.6040701@shoreham.net> Dan Strassberg wrote: >It would be interesting if the Philly 95.7 got some new calls that >"suggested" Ben--say WBNN, if that's available. > Begs the question, has "Dick" been taken yet? Bill O'Neill -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 3/27/2005 From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Mar 28 09:47:30 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon Mar 28 09:47:58 2005 Subject: Add 'Ben' to the list of radio station names In-Reply-To: <002801c5339e$9fab9a40$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <20050328060436.87180.qmail@web52607.mail.yahoo.com> <42480AED.3070805@partnercomm.com> <002801c5339e$9fab9a40$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050328094453.0225a020@mail.mac.com> At 09:01 AM 3/28/2005, Dan Strassberg wrote: >It would be interesting if the Philly 95.7 got some new calls that >"suggested" Ben--say WBNN, if that's available. I dunno, does anyone, aside from us radio geeks and the candy company (FCC), even pay attention to call letters when a slogan is used? Larry Weil Temporarily in Lake Wobegone, ME Wobegone is a state of mind! From scott@fybush.com Mon Mar 28 10:04:08 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon Mar 28 10:04:07 2005 Subject: Add 'Ben' to the list of radio station names In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050328094453.0225a020@mail.mac.com> References: <002801c5339e$9fab9a40$19eefea9@dstrassberg> <20050328060436.87180.qmail@web52607.mail.yahoo.com> <42480AED.3070805@partnercomm.com> <002801c5339e$9fab9a40$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050328100208.026e5320@gwind.pair.com> At 09:47 AM 3/28/2005 -0500, Larry Weil wrote: >At 09:01 AM 3/28/2005, Dan Strassberg wrote: > >>It would be interesting if the Philly 95.7 got some new calls that >>"suggested" Ben--say WBNN, if that's available. > >I dunno, does anyone, aside from us radio geeks and the candy company >(FCC), even pay attention to call letters when a slogan is used? Actually, yeah - there's Arbitron :-) I'm sure the diaries they get from listeners don't have many call letters in them (aside from WBZ and maybe WRKO and WEEI), but the ratings reports they send out are all done by calls, and I would have to think that ad agency buyers identify stations primarily by calls as a result. So perhaps the reason to still care about calls, from a station's point of view, is to make sure that ad agency buyers can identify "WJMN" as "Jam'n," even if the average listener can't... s From sid@wrko.com Mon Mar 28 11:17:48 2005 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Mon Mar 28 11:18:19 2005 Subject: Add 'Ben' to the list of radio station names Message-ID: >>the ratings reports they send out are all done by calls, and I would have to think that ad agency buyers identify stations primarily by calls as a result. So perhaps the reason to still care about calls, from a station's point of view, is to make sure that ad agency buyers can identify "WJMN" as "Jam'n," even if the average listener can't...<< Ratings reports are done by calls, but diaries are not necessarily done that way. Every station receives an Arbitron questionnaire well in advance of the start of every ratings period in which they are a subscribing station, and a part of that questionnaire is a listing of the station's current slogans. If a listener writes down a slogan instead of a call sign or dial position, the station whose slogan matches what is entered in the diary gets credit for that listener. It's the same with program titles, which must be listed by each subscribing station as well. An entry in a Boston-area diary for "Rush Limbaugh" automatically credits WRKO for that listener; "Paul Sullivan" for WBZ, and so on. And BTW, I've seen actual filled-out diaries. It literally scares me to death to think of how many billions of dollars of advertising revenue rest on what's written in them. Besides the standard problems of any such endeavor, like illegible handwriting, the misunderstanding of call signs, dial positions, program names and host/DJ names by diary users is frightening. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From n1qgs@yahoo.com Mon Mar 28 14:20:31 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Mon Mar 28 14:20:42 2005 Subject: Anyone recall George? Tebbetts financial reports on WSMN in the 1960-1970's Message-ID: <20050328192031.35989.qmail@web30709.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Does anyone recall George Tebbetts financial reports on the former WSMN, 1590AM Nashua NH, in the 1960-1970's. I believe his first name was George?? I'm wondering is this is the son of George "Birdie" Tebbetts of baseball fame, who played in managed in the major leagues for decades and lived in Nashua until the 1960's. "Birdie's" obit does show there was a junior. John B Derry NH From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Mon Mar 28 15:08:52 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Mon Mar 28 15:10:30 2005 Subject: Sklar tells a funny story about radio rivalry Message-ID: <06e801c533d2$0cec7920$1404fea9@xyz> There is another aircheck on the Northeast site that had me laughing out loud. Bob McGonagle from WGCH in Greenwich CT interviews Rick Sklar when Sklar was traveling around and promoting his book "Rockin' America". Sklar tells a story of the rivalry between WINS and WMGM (1050AM), and a practical joke that WINS played on WMGM....and plays back the tape. Listen to Sklar set up the story from the begining....before he plays the tape. The story starts at about :20 minutes into the interview. http://www.allied-industries.net/checks/bmwgch88.ram (It runs about 10 minutes long...) JP From w1mex@lycos.com Mon Mar 28 15:57:18 2005 From: w1mex@lycos.com (KEVIN GOODWIN) Date: Mon Mar 28 16:00:19 2005 Subject: Mix 98.5 Message-ID: <20050328205718.9FD8BCA08B@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> According to Scott Fybush NERW Mix 98.5's WhatEver Weekend prevents other stations in the Boston market from going to an all Jack format. The difference is that Mix is doing this on the weekends. This does not prevent WBOS or other stations in the market from going toa full blowin Jack format change. Kevin Goodwin -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From scott@fybush.com Mon Mar 28 16:09:39 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Mon Mar 28 16:09:37 2005 Subject: Mix 98.5 In-Reply-To: <20050328205718.9FD8BCA08B@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050328160701.026bda98@gwind.pair.com> At 03:57 PM 3/28/2005 -0500, KEVIN GOODWIN wrote: >According to Scott Fybush NERW Mix 98.5's WhatEver Weekend prevents other >stations in the Boston market from going to an all Jack format. The >difference is that Mix is doing this on the weekends. This does not >prevent WBOS or other stations in the market from going toa full blowin >Jack format change. I don't know that I'd use the word "prevents" - anybody can do anything, of course, and probably will. But there's a strong incentive to get there before the other guy does, if only to prevent disasters like the Mass Country Conversion of 1993. Ah yes - those halcyon days of WBCS fighting WKLB-FM for a 2 share... :-) In any event, it sounds as though Mix is doing this ONLY on the weekends, for now, unlike some of the other hot ACs (WRQX Washington, KPLZ Seattle, WTMX Chicago) that are incorporating Jack-like format elements all week long while trying to keep their established identities. s From mhiggs@gmail.com Mon Mar 28 16:40:59 2005 From: mhiggs@gmail.com (Matt Higgs) Date: Mon Mar 28 16:42:27 2005 Subject: Format change in Fredericton Message-ID: Astral has changed the format of CIBX 106.9 Fredericton. Formally known as "EZ Rock" and "Capital FM" their now calling themselves "Today's Best Music" and still keeping the "Capital FM" slogan. I haven't listened much, but haven't heard anything outside the current top 40, so they must have dumped their light rock stuff and occasional 80s songs they would play. Astral's CJCJ in Woodstock is keeping the same playlist as CIBX, but are still calling themselves "EZ Rock". I think CJCJ (and even CIBX) are taking quite a beating from WQHR 96.1 in Presque Isle, which seems to be picking up more and more New Brunswick advertisers and is focusing more on the province with news and weather info. WCRQ 102.9 in Calais, which plays the same programming as WQHR (an ABC feed), also has a good foothold in the NB market. Matt From billo@shoreham.net Mon Mar 28 17:33:18 2005 From: billo@shoreham.net (Bill O'Neill.....) Date: Mon Mar 28 17:36:08 2005 Subject: Exit Howie, Enter Hannity Message-ID: <4248862E.10601@shoreham.net> WVMT (620 Burlington) is now running Hannity 3-6 on the longtime Howie Carr affiliate in the Burlington-Plattsburgh market. http://www.am620wvmt.com/ lists Hannity (but the hyperlink is still Carr's website - details details...) Until now, area listeners needed to tune in WGY (810 Schenectady) which is a rim shot northward up the Champlain Valley. Bill O'Neill -- Peace -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release Date: 3/27/2005 From kc1ih@mac.com Mon Mar 28 20:18:34 2005 From: kc1ih@mac.com (Larry Weil) Date: Mon Mar 28 20:19:06 2005 Subject: Add 'Ben' to the list of radio station names In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 9:17 AM -0700 3/28/05, Sid Schweiger wrote: >an entry in a Boston-area diary for "Rush >Limbaugh" automatically credits WRKO for that listener; And what if that listener is on the edge of the Boston area, and listening to Rush on a different station than RKO? In that case, it appears the wrong station could get credit for that listener. -- Larry Weil Lake Wobegone, NH From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Tue Mar 29 01:30:27 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Tue Mar 29 01:30:48 2005 Subject: New Link (Was: Fw: Sklar tells a funny story about radio rivalry Message-ID: <007f01c53428$d5417460$1404fea9@xyz> > > There is another aircheck on the Northeast site that had me laughing out > > loud. > > > > Bob McGonagle from WGCH in Greenwich CT interviews Rick Sklar when Sklar was > > traveling around and promoting his book "Rockin' America". Sklar tells a story of the rivalry between WINS and WMGM (1050AM), and a practical joke that WINS played on WMGM....and plays back the tape. Listen to Sklar set up the story from the begining....before he plays the tape. The story starts at about :20 minutes into the interview. Rick Kelly informs me that the link in the original email doesn't work anymore. Try this one http://www.northeastairchecks.com/checks/bmwgch88.ram It's worth it! From lawyer@attorneyross.com Tue Mar 29 01:54:31 2005 From: lawyer@attorneyross.com (A. Joseph Ross) Date: Tue Mar 29 01:54:49 2005 Subject: Format change in Fredericton In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4248B557.10398.B8EE95@localhost> On 28 Mar 2005 at 17:40, Matt Higgs wrote: > Astral has changed the format of CIBX 106.9 Fredericton. Formally > known as "EZ Rock" and "Capital FM" their now calling themselves > "Today's Best Music" and still keeping the "Capital FM" slogan. Are there any stations that call themselves "Lower Case FM"? -- A. Joseph Ross, J.D. 617.367.0468 15 Court Square, Suite 210 lawyer@attorneyross.com Boston, MA 02108-2503 http://www.attorneyross.com From Kaimbridge@programmer.net Tue Mar 29 10:21:14 2005 From: Kaimbridge@programmer.net (Kaimbridge M. GoldChild) Date: Tue Mar 29 10:21:37 2005 Subject: [B-R-I] Re: Mix 98.5 Message-ID: <4249726A.E727810C@Programmer.Net> The esteemed Mr. Fybush wrote, > In any event, it sounds as though Mix is doing this ONLY on the > weekends, for now, unlike some of the other hot ACs Our friend Clea at The Globe has a little piece on it in today's TV-Radio page, which hints that a full force embrace may be imminent: > WBMX-FM may mix up format > > By Clea Simon, Globe Correspondent | March 29, 2005 > > The Infinity-owned radio station ''Mix" WBMX-FM (98.5) may be > poised to switch formats to new music along with songs from > the '70s, '80s, and '90s, in a jumble of styles that supposedly > resembles an iPod playlist on shuffle. http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/articles/2005/03/29/wbmx_fm_may_mix_up_format ~Kaimbridge~ ----- Wanted?Kaimbridge (w/mugshot!): http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/Wanted_KMGC.html ---------- Digitology?The Grand Theory Of The Universe: http://www.angelfire.com/ma2/digitology/index.html ***** Void Where Permitted; Limit 0 Per Customer. ***** From raccoonradio@myway.com Tue Mar 29 11:33:34 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue Mar 29 11:34:02 2005 Subject: Exit Howie, Enter Hannity Message-ID: <20050329163334.EDA6339A9@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>WVMT (620 Burlington) is now running Hannity 3-6 on the longtime Howie Carr affiliate in the Burlington-Plattsburgh market. Yes, I had heard rumblings about this. Hannity ranks #2 nationwide and I wondered why nobody was carrying him in Burlington/Plattsburgh (though I think he may have been on WRSA 1420 out of St. Albans for awhile--maybe still is. 100000watts.com says they carry Hannity on WRSA...limited coverage area though) Yes, they need to change the link on WVMT's site. Would WXZO pick up Howie and dump Don and Mike? (prob. not, but who knows). Howie's site does mention that 'RKO begins streaming on Monday. Howie occasionally got calls from Montreal, from listeners who picked up the show on WVMT. By the way, 100kw.com says WVAA 1390 (classic country) has requested the calls WCAT _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From scott@fybush.com Tue Mar 29 15:08:32 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Tue Mar 29 15:08:34 2005 Subject: NERW. 1600 WUNR Brookline MA changes? In-Reply-To: <20050329093824.15710.qmail@web86604.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050329150652.02759358@gwind.pair.com> At 10:38 AM 3/29/2005 +0100, you wrote: >Hi Scott >Tuned to 1600 around 0115 EST and heard back to back rock oldies with a >"WUNR" call dropped in. I have WUNR with SS overnight. Has something >changed at WUNR or am I hearing two stations may be? >Regards >Barry Davies >MWC UK Hi Barry, WUNR is what we in the States call a "leased-time" station - they don't produce any of their own programming, they just lease time to a variety of independent program(me) producers who want to broadcast to Boston. I'm guessing that you may have caught them during a time period that had gone unsold for whatever reason. I'm asking my Boston radio mailing list about it - hopefully someone within local listening range can give them a listen overnight and report what they're hearing! s From raccoonradio@myway.com Tue Mar 29 16:35:38 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Tue Mar 29 16:35:58 2005 Subject: BRW: ESPN 890 soon to debut Message-ID: <20050329213538.ADD1E39FE@mprdmxin.myway.com> The latest edition of Boston Radio Watch (http://www.bostonradiowatch.com ) says that the new ESPN-affiliated station at 890 will soon debut (anyone got an exact date?) and that ESPN's overnight shows are now gone from WEEI, replaced by Fox Sports. 'EEI had already been carrying FSR's J.T. the Brick, of course. Oh, and 890 is hiring. btw when I was up in NH (south of Ossipee, heading back to the North Shore via Rt 16) on Sunday afternoon, I was picking up WWZN 1510 half-decently, and they were carrying the NCAA playoffs. WEEI had a Sox exhibition game on (also came in well), but they soon also started carrying the same game (U.N.C.). Whomever was doing the NCAA playoffs (Westwood One?) apparently had no prob with two stations in Boston (under separate ownership) carrying the game. Maybe they figured they'd put the game on WWZN as WEEI had the Sox, and WEEI could also "join in progress" later. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From lglavin@lycos.com Tue Mar 29 17:37:19 2005 From: lglavin@lycos.com (Laurence Glavin) Date: Tue Mar 29 17:37:30 2005 Subject: Boston Arbitrends Out; WJIB-AM Soars Message-ID: <20050329223719.82A03C61A8@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> I didn't expect new Boston Arbitrends; I thought the next publication of ratings at radioandrecords.com would be Q1. But new 'Trends are out and WJIB-AM seems to have inherited some disaffected WXKS-AM listeners. I know it's not polite to quote Arbitron numbers, but let's just say that WJIB-AM's 12-and-over rating comes as close as you can get to having a whole number to the left of the decimal point! BTW, WXKS-AM has disappeared from the table displayed today, although WKOX-AM seems to have taken its place. CCU should get its act together and have Arbitron publish a combined WKOXKS rating. (Can you imagine what WJIB would get if Bob deep-sixed the French-language show in morning drive!) -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com From markwats@comcast.net Tue Mar 29 18:36:58 2005 From: markwats@comcast.net (Mark Watson) Date: Tue Mar 29 18:37:06 2005 Subject: Quentin Migliori (a/k/a Jim Grant) Has Passed Away Message-ID: <008501c534b8$35c1fe60$6f918318@Mark> Quentin Migliori, who worked at several Boston area radio stations over the years, passed away suddenly Saturday March 26th at the age of 56. Migliori used the air name of Jim Grant on WCGY in the early 80's and again in the mid 80's on WMEX 1150 when they were oldies. He also worked at WROR when they were at 98.5, WLYT (now WXRV), and WEEI-FM in their soft rock days. At the time of his death he was working for Metro Traffic in Boston. He was also a mobile DJ and operated a booking agency for DJ's and bands. Mark Watson From radiotony@comcast.net Tue Mar 29 18:44:29 2005 From: radiotony@comcast.net (tony schinella) Date: Tue Mar 29 18:44:41 2005 Subject: NERW. 1600 WUNR Brookline MA changes? References: <5.1.0.14.0.20050329150652.02759358@gwind.pair.com> Message-ID: <006201c534b9$40347160$6400a8c0@tony> Hi all, Back in the late 1990s when I worked overnights there as a board op, and there wasn't a Spanish contractor playing music, I would vary the music from gospel and sould, to swing and classical, or sometimes Spanish music, depending on the night of the week. We didn't have any oldies or much music available and I was, unfortunately, discouraged from being creative. :-) It was a difficult spot to lease although there was this one Spanish guy who had a popular call in show on Tuesday, Wednesay, and Thursday, but he was later bumped for Galaxia - who later went under after a few months. Best, Tony Schinella radiotony@comcast.net WKXL 1450 Concord, NH News Director/A&E http://www.wkxl1450.com http://politizine.blogspot.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fybush" To: "BARRY DAVIES" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 3:08 PM Subject: Re: NERW. 1600 WUNR Brookline MA changes? > At 10:38 AM 3/29/2005 +0100, you wrote: >>Hi Scott >>Tuned to 1600 around 0115 EST and heard back to >>back rock oldies with a "WUNR" call dropped in. >>I have WUNR with SS overnight. Has something >>changed at WUNR or am I hearing two stations may >>be? >>Regards >>Barry Davies >>MWC UK > > Hi Barry, > > WUNR is what we in the States call a > "leased-time" station - they don't produce any > of their own programming, they just lease time > to a variety of independent program(me) > producers who want to broadcast to Boston. I'm > guessing that you may have caught them during a > time period that had gone unsold for whatever > reason. I'm asking my Boston radio mailing list > about it - hopefully someone within local > listening range can give them a listen overnight > and report what they're hearing! > > s > From rogerkola@aol.com Tue Mar 29 18:54:48 2005 From: rogerkola@aol.com (Roger Kolakowski) Date: Tue Mar 29 18:54:56 2005 Subject: Boston Arbitrends Out; WJIB-AM Soars References: <20050329223719.82A03C61A8@ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <001b01c534ba$b112fc20$0200a8c0@teal> And I noticed for the first time since I've been looking, they are reporting stations with ratings less than half of WJIB's...almost put's Bob in the Middle! Congratulations Bob! Roger WA1KAT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurence Glavin" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:37 PM Subject: Boston Arbitrends Out; WJIB-AM Soars > I didn't expect new Boston Arbitrends; I thought the next publication > of ratings at radioandrecords.com would be Q1. But new 'Trends are out > and WJIB-AM seems to have inherited some disaffected WXKS-AM listeners. > I know it's not polite to quote Arbitron numbers, but let's just say > that WJIB-AM's 12-and-over rating comes as close as you can get to > having a whole number to the left of the decimal point! > BTW, WXKS-AM has disappeared from the table displayed today, although > WKOX-AM seems to have taken its place. CCU should get its act together > and have Arbitron publish a combined WKOXKS rating. > (Can you imagine what WJIB would get if Bob deep-sixed the > French-language show in morning drive!) > > -- > _______________________________________________ > NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. > http://datingsearch.lycos.com > > > From billings@suscom-maine.net Tue Mar 29 19:18:30 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Tue Mar 29 19:18:46 2005 Subject: Changes at WZAN Message-ID: <000301c534be$05f6fb30$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> WZAN has added the Lex & Terry show. It is now on from 10 am to 2 pm. Jim Hendry has been moved to Midnight and Jim Rome has been dropped. Loveline is now on from 10 until Midnight and Tom Leykis has been cut back by an hour. From billings@suscom-maine.net Tue Mar 29 19:20:49 2005 From: billings@suscom-maine.net (Daniel Billings) Date: Tue Mar 29 19:20:58 2005 Subject: Exit Howie, Enter Hannity References: <20050329163334.EDA6339A9@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <000d01c534be$537d0520$62ee05cf@yourm3vezyx8af> I am told that Howie may be off WVOM and its simulcast WCME soon. I am told that there is a contract issue. Is Howie seeking money from his affiliates? From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Tue Mar 29 20:03:02 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Tue Mar 29 20:03:13 2005 Subject: OBIT: Quentin J. Migliori In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050330010302.48828.qmail@web52302.mail.yahoo.com> Obituaries Quentin J. Migliori http://www.ecnnews.com/cgi-bin/05/etstory.pl?-sec-Record+fn-obitssss_005.htm-20050329 HAVERHILL -- Quentin J. Migliori, Jr., 56, died Saturday at Caritas Holy Family Hospital in Methuen. He worked in radio, first at WBNY in Burlington, Vt., and later for radio stations WHIL, WROR, WEEI, WMEX, WJIB, and WCGY 92.5. He was currently with Metro Traffic and News, and was a Mobile DJ. He owned Big Q Entertainment, a booking agency for musicians and DJs, and Big Q Restorations, a business restoring old records. Born in Haverhill, he was a graduate of Haverhill High School, Class of 1966, attended Northeastern University and was a graduate of Northeast Broadcasting School in Boston. He was a member of All Saints Parish, the Garibaldi Club and the American Federation of Radio and Television Artists. The son of Quentin and Mary (DeMatteo) Migliori, he leaves wife Kathleen (Watts) Migliori; son Matthew T. of Haverhill; daughter Jessica Migliori and her husband, Nolan Pelletier, of Plaistow, N.H.; brother Michael of Haverhill; one grandson, and several nieces and nephews. ARRANGEMENTS: Calling hours are tomorrow from 2 to 4 and 7 to 9 p.m. Scatamacchia Funeral Home, 358 Washington St., Haverhill. A funeral will be Thursday at 8 a.m. at the funeral home with a Mass of Christian burial at 9 a.m. at All Saints Church. Burial will follow in St. Patrick's Cemetery. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Pappalardo joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue Mar 29 20:33:56 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue Mar 29 20:35:01 2005 Subject: Boston winter arbitron Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050329203041.02467ff0@pop.registeredsite.com> I would be interested to see what happens to WKOX and WXKS when you can hear them longer-- the winter book meant that WKOX was unable to be received on the south shore and in large parts of Boston after 4.15 in the afternoon... And congrats to Bob and WJIB for nearly getting a 1 share!!! WEEI was down (no baseball), WJMN was up a lot, WTKK was down quite a bit, WCRB was up a little, and boy were a lot of stations flat (including WKOX)... WBZ was number one, of course, and even though they were down, WEEI was #2. From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Tue Mar 29 20:48:57 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Tue Mar 29 20:49:07 2005 Subject: Boston winter arbitron In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050329203041.02467ff0@pop.registeredsite.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050329203041.02467ff0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <200503300148.j2U1mvgW056785@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> < said: > (including WKOX)... WBZ was number one, of course, and even though they > were down, WEEI was #2. It would be interesting (not that I would suggest anyone violate their agreement with Arbitron) to see what happened to 'BZ evenings in their first post-Brudnoy book. (I also wonder, as a general matter, how much carryover listenership 'BZ has from news to talk. Presumably most of their metro cume comes from daytime sampling for the news, weather, and traffic....) -GAWollman From dlh@donnahalper.com Tue Mar 29 20:53:06 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (Donna Halper) Date: Tue Mar 29 20:54:25 2005 Subject: Boston winter arbitron In-Reply-To: <200503300148.j2U1mvgW056785@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050329203041.02467ff0@pop.registeredsite.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20050329203041.02467ff0@pop.registeredsite.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050329205201.024c66f8@pop.registeredsite.com> Garrett wrote-- >It would be interesting (not that I would suggest anyone violate their >agreement with Arbitron) to see what happened to 'BZ evenings in their >first post-Brudnoy book. I'd like to know this too-- but alas, all I have are the rankings and 12+ numbers. I plan to find out tomorrow from WBZ, if I can... WBUR did very well too, btw, especially in morning drive. From ssmyth@psu.edu Tue Mar 29 21:40:39 2005 From: ssmyth@psu.edu (Sean Smyth) Date: Tue Mar 29 21:41:07 2005 Subject: Story on Elliot Abrams Message-ID: <200503300240.VAA23262@webmail9.cac.psu.edu> A very nice and extensive piece on AccuWeather's Elliot Abrams, and not just because I'm on the staff here. http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2005/03/03-29-05tdc/03-29-05dscihealth-01.asp From brian_vita@cssinc.com Wed Mar 30 00:05:53 2005 From: brian_vita@cssinc.com (Brian Vita) Date: Wed Mar 30 00:06:20 2005 Subject: Story on Elliot Abrams In-Reply-To: <200503300240.VAA23262@webmail9.cac.psu.edu> Message-ID: <000101c534e6$26b44d00$660fa8c0@elara> Gee, in the photos he kind of looks like Bob Nelson... Brian T. Vita, President Cinema Service & Supply, Inc. 77 Walnut St - Ste 4 Peabody, MA 01960-5691 +1-978-538-7575 Voice +1-978-538-7550 Fax www.cssinc.com > -----Original Message----- > From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org > [mailto:boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] > On Behalf Of Sean Smyth > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:41 PM > To: boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org > Subject: Story on Elliot Abrams > > > A very nice and extensive piece on AccuWeather's Elliot > Abrams, and not just because I'm on the staff here. > > http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2005/03/03-29-05tdc/03-29 -05dscihealth-01.asp From gspatola@wavecable.com Wed Mar 30 00:41:05 2005 From: gspatola@wavecable.com (Glenn and Judy Spatola) Date: Wed Mar 30 00:41:49 2005 Subject: Add 'Ben' to the list of radio station names References: <20050328060436.87180.qmail@web52607.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005701c534eb$11e1d960$c12c7118@wavecable.com> I visited the Tucson, AZ area last month and found "Bob FM." Check out the website. Have your speakers turned up when you do. http://www.bob.fm/ Glenn Spatola Port Orchard, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Osborne" To: Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:04 PM Subject: Add 'Ben' to the list of radio station names > For Easter weekend this year I visited some family on > Ocean County, NJ and got the chance to scan the dial > while I was down there. Sounds like we have another > new name to add to the list of station names that are > the name of a person. WMWX (95.7) Philadelphia has > now branded themselves as 'Ben-FM', with the standard > "playing whatever we want" and "the best mix of the > 80s, 90s and whatever" imaging that goes with that > format. Is it just me, or does this actually sound a > bit awkward to anyone else on the list as an on-air > name? > > Matt Osborne > Poughkeepsie, NY > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > From jjlehmann@comcast.net Wed Mar 30 01:30:58 2005 From: jjlehmann@comcast.net (Jeff Lehmann) Date: Wed Mar 30 01:31:05 2005 Subject: Add 'Ben' to the list of radio station names In-Reply-To: <005701c534eb$11e1d960$c12c7118@wavecable.com> Message-ID: <200503300631.j2U6V3d5038540@rolinin.lcs.mit.edu> That Bob FM that you gave the web address for is located in Kingston, ON. There's so many, it's hard to keep the web addresses straight. Jeff Lehmann Hanson, MA >-----Original Message----- >From: boston-radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org [mailto:boston- >radio-interest-bounces@rolinin.BostonRadio.org] On Behalf Of Glenn and Judy >Spatola >Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 12:41 AM >To: Matthew Osborne; boston-radio-interest@bostonradio.org >Cc: Sonny >Subject: Re: Add 'Ben' to the list of radio station names > >I visited the Tucson, AZ area last month and found "Bob FM." Check out the >website. Have your speakers turned up when you do. >http://www.bob.fm/ > >Glenn Spatola >Port Orchard, WA > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Matthew Osborne" >To: >Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:04 PM >Subject: Add 'Ben' to the list of radio station names > > >> For Easter weekend this year I visited some family on >> Ocean County, NJ and got the chance to scan the dial >> while I was down there. Sounds like we have another >> new name to add to the list of station names that are >> the name of a person. WMWX (95.7) Philadelphia has >> now branded themselves as 'Ben-FM', with the standard >> "playing whatever we want" and "the best mix of the >> 80s, 90s and whatever" imaging that goes with that >> format. Is it just me, or does this actually sound a >> bit awkward to anyone else on the list as an on-air >> name? >> >> Matt Osborne >> Poughkeepsie, NY >> >> >> >> __________________________________ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! >> http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ >> >> From chuckigo@maine.rr.com Wed Mar 30 05:45:14 2005 From: chuckigo@maine.rr.com (chuckigo@maine.rr.com) Date: Wed Mar 30 05:45:24 2005 Subject: Story on Elliot Abrams Message-ID: <95ba8b954e92.954e9295ba8b@nyroc.rr.com> Sean noted: > A very nice and extensive piece on AccuWeather's Elliot Abrams, and not just > because I'm on the staff here. > http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2005/03/03-29-05tdc/03-29-05dscihealth-01.asp i have the pleasure of working with Elliot each morning here in Portland. he is a consumate professional on two fronts: weather and broadcasting! his daily schedule, on & off the air, at times makes mine seem tame. yet as they say in the article, he is "always on!" - -Chuck Igo From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Wed Mar 30 10:01:57 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed Mar 30 10:02:02 2005 Subject: Server downtime Message-ID: <200503301501.j2UF1vba062029@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> I expect that the main bostonradio.org server will be down, perhaps for several hours, later today. Do not be alarmed if you send a message to the list and get back "your message was not delivered in four hours". This also means that subscription requests for the list will not be handled. -GAWollman From raccoonradio@myway.com Wed Mar 30 11:36:46 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Mar 30 11:37:08 2005 Subject: Boston Arbitrends Out; WJIB-AM Soars Message-ID: <20050330163646.4041C12DB9@mprdmxin.myway.com> >>CCU should get its act together and have Arbitron publish a combined WKOXKS rating Yes, I've seen the ratings where they list combined listenership of a station and the sister station that simulcasts them: WEEI-AM/WEEI-FM WXRV-FM/WVFM-FM WFNX-FM/WFEX-FM I almost thought that they were listing WKOX and WXKS as separate stations for a few ratings periods (I'm talking the listings in Radio and Records, not necessarily the official Arbitron site) for now, but would later list them together. The two stations began their simulcast (and progressive talk format) last Oct. _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From raccoonradio@myway.com Wed Mar 30 11:39:44 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Wed Mar 30 11:39:57 2005 Subject: Exit Howie, Enter Hannity Message-ID: <20050330163944.9B43312DF5@mprdmxin.myway.com> I don't know if it's Howie so much as his _syndicator_ (SupeRadio still?) That is, personally he may not be asking them for more money, but it's his syndicator who is. As I mentioned before, SupeRadio's site lists Howie as one of their personalities on their "About Us" page but the show is not listed under the "Talk" section of their program page >>I am told that Howie may be off WVOM and its simulcast WCME soon. I am told
that there is a contract issue. Is Howie seeking money from his affiliates? _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Wed Mar 30 20:15:29 2005 From: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed Mar 30 20:18:05 2005 Subject: Server back up.... Message-ID: <200503310115.j2V1FTQD067219@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> The main bostonradio.org server is now back up and appears to be behaving correctly. -GAWollman From mattosborne1976@yahoo.com Wed Mar 30 20:43:41 2005 From: mattosborne1976@yahoo.com (Matthew Osborne) Date: Wed Mar 30 20:43:53 2005 Subject: Add 'Ben' to the list of radio station names In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050331014341.78411.qmail@web52605.mail.yahoo.com> On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 01:30:58 -0500 Jeff Lehmann wrote: > That Bob FM that you gave the web address for is > located in Kingston, ON. > There's so many, it's hard to keep the web addresses > straight. Actually, the station in question (Bob 103.7 formerly CJPT/CHXL) is located in Brockville ON. Close to Kingston, but not in Kingston itself. As you said though, there's so many of them its almost impossible to keep track of them all Matt Osborne Poughkeepsie, NY __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com Thu Mar 31 01:40:58 2005 From: joepappalardo2001@yahoo.com (Joseph Pappalardo) Date: Thu Mar 31 01:41:14 2005 Subject: Christopher Lydon for $12,500 a month? ??? Message-ID: <00f601c535bc$9c494b20$1404fea9@xyz> >> LOWELL -- In hiring well-known public-radio talkmeister Christopher Lydon for $12,500 a month, UMass Lowell says its getting much more than a locally produced radio program. << Does this sound right to anyone? 12.5/mos = 150k a year.... If it IS true, it sound like the station OWNS the show...which doesn't sound like the "Lydon plan". Or is Lydon going to be their General Manager, Prodgram Director or chief fund-raiser? Is U Lowell under the (mistaken) impression that WUML could become another WBUR? From raccoonradio@myway.com Thu Mar 31 14:39:42 2005 From: raccoonradio@myway.com (Bob Nelson) Date: Thu Mar 31 14:40:05 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk Message-ID: <20050331193942.C8CF9395A@mprdmxin.myway.com> http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/articles/2005/03/31/message_received?mode=PF Mark Jurkowitz talks about Air America on its first birthday. But while he quotes one source as saying it's a "smashing success", check out the ratings. (WXKS didn't even show up in the latest book.) Rebuttal via Brian Maloney's Radio Equalizer: http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From dan.strassberg@att.net Thu Mar 31 15:39:41 2005 From: dan.strassberg@att.net (Dan Strassberg) Date: Thu Mar 31 15:39:49 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk References: <20050331193942.C8CF9395A@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <001801c53631$cb864940$19eefea9@dstrassberg> Not clear whether Jurkowitz or Maloney was the more inaccurate. Jurkowitz called WXKS and WKOX daytimers, which, as a point of fact, is untrue, even though neither covers the City of Boston at night. Maloney referred to right-wing talkers KSFO 560 San Francisco and KVI 570 Seattle as "tiny signals." In fact these two low-on-the-dial 5-kW AMs have some of the best AM signals in their markets. KVI, in particular, which is ND-U is arguably Seattle's best AM signal, notwithstanding a very large number of 50 kW AMs 710, 770, 820 (which is 5 kW-N), 880 (which is 10 kW-N), 950, 1000, and 1090. In SF, KSFO is ND days and covers inland better than any Bay area AM except for 50 kW ND-U KNBR. Like Seattle, the Bay area has many 50 kW AMs (680, 740, 810, 1050, and 1100, with 860 not yet built). Because of its TX location on the SF waterfront, KSFO gives up some coverage in Silcon Valley, especially at night, however. Anyhow, CCU, which owns and leases out many billboards, in addition to owning quite a few stations, including WKOXKS, that carry "progressive talk," has been very reluctant to promote its progressive talkers. Sure, if creating a buzz by using Weblogs gets the promotional job done for free, the strategy will have worked. But I'm sure that if the strategy fails, a number of CCU execs will heave big sighs of relief notwithstanding the company's relatively modest investment (for a company of CCU's size) in the format. CCU is a notoriously right-wing company and liberals/progressives are 100% right to be suspicious of the company's motives. Progressive talk only got a chance thanks to CCU, but if the format fails, CCU execs will be able to say "Sorry about that, but we gave it a shot and we found what many had predicted--that the listener support just wasn't there." Meanwhile, these execs will be gleefully snickering under their breath. Of course, Air America itself deserves some of the blame. Much of the AAR product is weak. Springer may be a bright enough guy, but all that he brings to the lineup is a well recognized (albeit, for the wrong reasons) name. If the five weeks of Springer that we heard in Boston while Randi Rhodes was recovering from surgery were any example, Springer will decimate the ratings of any station that airs his show (except maybe if Springer airs in the overnight hours that have been occupied by reruns). Springer may well be Air America's second kiss of death. (The first was the backers' financial shenanigans that took place a year ago when the network was brand new.) All that said, Mr Maloney can hardly be called an objective critic.The piece on his Web site that followed his AAR piece (I forget the subject) made it abundantly clear where his sentimets like. He is a neo-con like Limbaugh, Hannity, O' Reilly, et al. -- Dan Strassberg, dan.strassberg@att.net eFax 707-215-6367 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Nelson" To: Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:39 PM Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk > > http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/articles/2005/03/31/message_received?mode=PF > > Mark Jurkowitz talks about Air America on its first birthday. But while he quotes one source as saying it's a "smashing success", check out the ratings. > (WXKS didn't even show up in the latest book.) > > Rebuttal via Brian Maloney's Radio Equalizer: > http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com From sid@wrko.com Thu Mar 31 16:04:22 2005 From: sid@wrko.com (Sid Schweiger) Date: Thu Mar 31 16:04:50 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk Message-ID: >>But while he quotes one source as saying it's a "smashing success", check out the ratings. (WXKS didn't even show up in the latest book.)<< Jurkowitz should have been more specific, apparently. In many AAR markets, they have done very well, despite the fact that in most of their markets they are on, to be charitable, limited signals, and the top talkers in each market (usually conservative, because that's where the big bucks have been) have the better signals to themselves. OTOH, besides the poor signals, they just went on the air here with virtually no promotion, so looking for results so soon is pushing things a bit...OK, a lot. Sid Schweiger IT Manager, Entercom Boston LLC WAAF - WEEI AM/FM - WQSX - WRKO - WVEI 20 Guest St / 3d Floor Boston MA 02135-2040 Phone: 617-779-5369 Fax: 617-779-5379 E-Mail: sid@wrko.com From dlh@donnahalper.com Thu Mar 31 16:15:08 2005 From: dlh@donnahalper.com (dlh@donnahalper.com) Date: Thu Mar 31 16:15:24 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk Message-ID: <200503312115.j2VLF8Qf011258@mail10.atl.registeredsite.com> Sid wrote-- > besides the poor signals, they just went on the air here >with virtually > no promotion, so looking for results so soon is pushing things a > bit...OK, a lot. And let's also remember that Rush and the righties were not smashing successes immediately. It takes time for ANY new format, right, left or whatever, to take hold. And having a good signal & promotion budget really does help! From n1qgs@yahoo.com Thu Mar 31 17:07:34 2005 From: n1qgs@yahoo.com (John Bolduc) Date: Thu Mar 31 17:07:45 2005 Subject: Paul Sullivan on WEEI Message-ID: <20050331220735.4158.qmail@web30708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >From a radio listing in the Nashua (NH) Telegraph. April 1941 6:00pm - WEEI - Paul Sullivan. It's a stretch, but, does anyone know if there is any relation to WBZ's Paul Sullivan? John B Derry NH From scott@fybush.com Thu Mar 31 21:43:36 2005 From: scott@fybush.com (Scott Fybush) Date: Thu Mar 31 21:43:31 2005 Subject: Two views on Prog. Talk In-Reply-To: <001801c53631$cb864940$19eefea9@dstrassberg> References: <20050331193942.C8CF9395A@mprdmxin.myway.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20050331212150.027e4d50@gwind.pair.com> >1090. In SF, KSFO is ND days and covers inland better than any Bay area AM >except for 50 kW ND-U KNBR. Like Seattle, the Bay area has many 50 kW AMs >(680, 740, 810, 1050, and 1100, with 860 not yet built). Because of its TX >location on the SF waterfront, KSFO gives up some coverage in Silcon Valley, >especially at night, however. Not much, though - that signal just shoots right down the bay. The biggest problem with KSFO's signal in recent years was the Mexican operator who moved to 560 a couple of years ago without international clearance. That signal from just south of Tijuana wreaked havoc with KSFO until it was forced off the channel a few months later. >CCU is a notoriously right-wing company and liberals/progressives are 100% >right to be suspicious of the company's motives. Progressive talk only got a >chance thanks to CCU, but if the format fails, CCU execs will be able to say >"Sorry about that, but we gave it a shot and we found what many had >predicted--that the listener support just wasn't there." Meanwhile, these >execs will be gleefully snickering under their breath. I disagree strongly with that assessment. Yes, the executives at the head of CCU corporate are strong supporters of the Republican Party in general and the present administration in particular. And yes, the programming on most of CCU's big talk stations has heretofore had a decided political tilt to it. But that said, the only motivation of any sort that drives Clear Channel Radio is ratings and profit. They're not out to fail just to prove a political point. The company took a flyer on the format in Portland and was, I think, somewhat surprised at how well it did. Since then, they've upped the signal ante for the format with just about every station they've flipped. It could easily have gone on 1360 in Cincinnati (an OK but unexceptional 5 kW DA-N regional channel), with 1360's sports format moving to 1530, but instead it's now on 1530, arguably the second-best AM in town. In San Antonio and Madison, they've launched it on FMs with full-market (or close to it) signals. In LA, it's on 1150, which is no KFI or KNX, but is a very respectable 50 kW stick. In San Francisco, it's on 960, arguably the best AM the company has in the market. Yes, the signals in Boston are lousy - but where else would CCU put the format? 94.5? Jerry Springer doesn't work cheap. If the goal was to put the format on, let it fail and use that as an excuse, would the money have been spent to hire him and launch the show? Any political ideology that may exist at CCU (and to the extent that it does, it's at the top of the corporate hierarchy, not in the radio division) is always, ALWAYS subsumed by the desire to make money. To the extent that promotion for the format has been weak in many of its markets (and I agree that it has), that's a function more of a company that's overextended trying to manage and promote 1200+ radio stations than it is of any deliberate neglect for the format. Here in Rochester, where the cluster has two AMs and five FMs, almost all the promotion is limited to one AM (50 kW WHAM) and the two big class B FMs. I don't attribute that to any corporate malice towards the sports, soft AC, CHR and modern rock formats on the other four signals. Inevitable disclaimer: As news editor of 100000watts.com, I'm an employee of Critical Mass Media Inc., which is a division of Clear Channel Worldwide. I have nothing to do with Clear Channel Radio, and I certainly don't speak for it or any other division of the company. s